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@sadolite
Are you joking or something? The middle east were aligned with Britain and France in both wars. The entire Saudi Arabia and Iraq were invented by backroom dealings with Churchill primarily and FDR secondarily.
As for Iran, US and UK made sure that the Muslims won and remained in power there when the Persians who believe(d) in a Pagan religion of their own and had opposed Islamic rule begged the French and British for help.
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@MisterChris
Lol... That restricts by age and gender quite a bit.
As for 'kill' the entire point of that question is that you give three people I am forced to put in a slot.
My favourite member overall is probably whiteflame but he's married and I don't think he's bi.
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@Sum1hugme
I assume you mean last human.
Regardless, Dogs. Dogs are much better actual friends.
Cats are great in their own way but wouldn't make me feel loved and sane in the same way.
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@Username
Theme song: Chris Webby (ft. Rittz) - Paved in Gold
Closest Fictional Character: Gustavo Fring
Exaggerated Overview:
Polite, 'Username' is as generic as it gets... Perfect, rule-abiding, great. Then, you challenge him and out come the claws. Calm and calculating mixed with passionate ferocity he is almost the inverse of a rational madman.
It doesn't matter where you engage him, it matters only how and why. If your engaging sparks his interest and he sees something to gain from the interaction he will debate and even rap with deep passionate intensity and capability but bore him and you're as good as dead to him.
He won't tell you it of course, he likes you even if you're dead to him. Pawn on his chess board as you may be, still a useful pawn you are.
Strengths:
- Calculating and meticulous, there isn't a move made by this armored beast that lets you risk-free engage him.
- Polite at all times, he ensures everyone who is stable that's worth his time is on good terms with him while liabilities (trolls he likes) are engaged with deep caution and held at a distance. As for those he dislikes, this environment, he prefers to disarm and avoid than to harm but isn't afraid to confront when need be.
- Calm is severe within him. He will save his emotions amd ferocious passion for select situations where they matter and channel them constructively, when they do.
- Intelligent and well-read, he knows his shit when he talks on a topic.
Weaknesses:
- Friends are tools to him, even those he genuinely cares about. 'cool and calm' has its drawbacks, a more passive version of the typical sociopath, he finds life very boring, people included. There's very little that makes him truly 'feel' and that tends to involve risk.
- He is incredibly boring and unimpressive at an initial glance. It is highly probable many who would dig him never got the chance to because of how guarded/reserved he ensures to be at all times.
- While he is calculating mentally, when impulse and passion do arise, he finds it hard to resist whatever it is he wishes to do and how he wants to do it. He wants to force the opponent to adapt to him rather than the opposite and often can overwork at something futile because of this urge that arises when his pride and passion are at play.
- His contradictory callous calm and ferocious passion lead to internal turmoil and make him hesitate to keep participating actively in the site or any place after a defeat he feels was his own fault.
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@oromagi
I literally quoted him. :)
people like Ragnar and Oromagi would be able to participate in as many debates as they would like
Let's let his words speak for themselves or do you have some kind of interpretation of what 'people like' meant?
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@Benjamin
With my suggestion implemented, people like Ragnar and Oromagi would be able to participate in as many debates as they would like
They already are able to.
Also, don't be a passive-aggressive troll about this. You called them out, I just made clear what you were actually saying.
Either the system adapts to them or they adapt to the system. It's crystal clear which is more reasonable here; I just have the guts to say it.
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@oromagi
Your premise is false. I have not quit, much less made any pretense about it.
All talk
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@FLRW
Do you want one or not?
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@Benjamin
I don't respect their strategy too much, you're correct but they earned their rating their way and that I can respect in itself. I grind my way and I respect those who do it the risky, free-flowing way much more, yes.
Who do I respect more, Undefeatable or Oromagi? As a courageous tough to the bone debater, Undefeatable. As a Rating grinder in itself, Oromagi.
Who do I enjoy being against and feel really is interesting when they defeat me or even when I defeat them? Undefeatable. I don't give a shit if you're the lowest ranked debater on the website, if you're trying and improving I respect tf out of that, if you're debating like a timid mouse don't expect me to feel you're a beast.
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@Benjamin
You attacked me in several ways, put words in my mouth, suggested I was jealous or some shit like I didn't think they deserve things.
I made clear to you what my take is and isn't. In the future when asking for feedback on a thread, specify you only want support and sheep. You made two errors regarding the system and the rest was essentially pandering to people who need to toughen up. If they are like that with stats on here, I worry for them. Risking an unrated L is that scary... God forbid your WL ratio takes a hit!
Difference between you/them and me? I could laugh and be happy either way around. It's them who are enslaved to their fears and I will never encourage that attitude, it's a coward's mentality and I'm entitled to say that on a thread without you blasting me.
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@badger
All bullying that occurs on this site should be permitted if it amuses you is that right?
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@Username
Yes
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@Benjamin
I propose we upgrade the system to allow for informal debates that don't affect one's ego. How can you oppose this change?
I find it deeply hilarious that someone's ego is the thing the system has to adapt to rather than the opposite.
That's how I can oppose to. I am a left-wing progressive but I'll be damned if this isn't a 'special snowflake' scenario.
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@Theweakeredge
You should read Benjamin's suggestions. They're all indirect mockery of people who sit there too scared shit to lose and UNRATED debate even just because their ego can't take the loss if it happens.
Benjamin is trying to pretend this isn't the entire joke behind his OP and trying to say I'm jealous or mean. I'm neither.
I just find it sad that someone can be so scared shit of losing that they couldn't accept a win-loss ratio decrease even if their rating is unscathed. That's sad, I find it amusing and I got jack shit to apologise fod.
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@Barney
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@Benjamin
I never said they don't deserve their status. Don't put words on my fucking mouth fool.
You're the one trying to reform the system so they can lose without hurting their fragile egos. i just pointed out I agree with you that it's sad how scared they are of it.
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@Username
I can't do yours unless you will admit who you use to be.
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Arabs are actually semitic as a race, however in the Talmud they ommited this and in application they ignored it entirely.
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@MarkWebberFan
Old-school Israel was as bad as Sharia Law on Human Rights and brutality (read the Talmud that is their version of Sharia Law, the Israelis who are truly pro-Netanyahu are almost always pro-Talmud). It's racist, cruel, sexist, homophobic and all of that. It literally is racist, that's not even an exaggeration, it says the Semitic descendants are superior to others, in God's eyes but despite this, Ethiopians (which are black Semites if you trace their roots) are often held beneath other Semites under Talmud rule so it's not even about religion or culture, it's literally the racial element of ethnicity that's the root thing at play.
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@fauxlaw
And before the Israelis it was cavemen of neither culture.
So... What entitles Israel to own West Bank, Gaza or even itself?
This isn't about spoilt brats feeling entitled to land based on ancestors, this is about hijacking a culture, invading a people's land and ruling in a corrupt, actually racist manner that is beyond something we can just turn a blind eye to and say is okay.
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@ILikePie5
If I made the same threat I'd be banned, no doubt.
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@Reece101
This is an absolute fucking masterpiece (from the semifinal).
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@Bones
I will take a topic I know little about and debate it to the best of my ability, Oromagi will only take stuff he's researched inside-out beforehand and not ever dare risk his pretty record being tarnished if he can avoid it needing to be possible.
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@Bones
Focus on the topic and voter (single) each time, it was twice not three times I think.
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@Vader
Israel is currently being led by people who fight and operate very similar to Hamas, I am not exaggerating when I say that.
Mossad more so than IDF.
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@Benjamin
Right now, unrated does not mean actually unrated. The current system makes losing an unrated debate affect the win/loss ration, a very important number.
You're correct that they affect win/loss ratio but if their ego is too fragile to risk the w/l ratio then I just gotta laugh.
Everyone knows what they did to get there, nobody truly 'respects' the approach they take, it's sad how enslaved they are to the fear of losing. Oromagi pretends that he quit because it reached 99 debates but he really quit because he got a loss and it was clearly so traumatic for him.
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@Benjamin
Make unvoted ties not be registered at all
- This would make our ranking system more accurate
Already done, thanks to me suggesting it very early on and admin being responsive.
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@FLRW
Either that was a very poor taste joke or you are mentally disturbed. I don't find it amusing at all what you're suggesting. If Netanyahu does that, the world will not ever forgive him or Israel as a whole.
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@coal
One state of Israel, comprised of everyone in Israel and anyone who currently lives in what is known as the Palestinian territory.
The Palestinian people should be allowed to be their own nation, not only because they were there first but because Israel's government and military have made crystal clear they don't see Palestinians as equal, worthy citizens to native Israelis. Therefore, both sides actually should support 2-state solution, the issue is right now neither wants to negotiate.
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@coal
How does your one-state solution handle the literal physical land space and human population in West Bank and Gaza?
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@coal
I'm not putting words in your mouth, I never said you want to wipe the physical humans off of the map I said you wanted to wipe their culture and would-be-national identity away from them.
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@coal
My sympathies are with Israel and only those innocent Palestinians caught in the crossfire between PLO-legacy types or Hamas. I don't like seeing kids dying, Palestinian or otherwise. It really gets to me. Just because terrorists like Hamas are to blame for IDF responses doesn't make contending with the collateral damage any easier.But make no mistake. I'm a one-state solution guy. That one state being Israel. I oppose any form of Palestinian statehood, any so-called "two-state" solution and any agreement that legitimizes any Palestinian-led governmental entity.
Did your viewpoint suddenly shift from this recent post you made elsewhere?
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China is somewhat especially with Uyghur Muslims but how are Japan and Norway?
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@Greyparrot
Everything you said in your final sentence can be said back to you.
Israel has used chemical weapons, killed people so young it would horrify most and recently done it solely out of sheer racism/ethnocentricity in Jerusalem.
There is not really any way to justify how or why Israel is entitled to invade and own what it does, especially not when a fair amount of Israelis literally thinks Jews are a superior race/ethnicity. Why is US defending and assisting ethnocentricity like this?
If you think I am lying, this is a literal video 0 acting:
Here's more:
They are fundamentally an apartheid state, there is absolutely no exaggeration in stating that.
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@fauxlaw
How was the occupation 'legitimate' ever, to begin with? This word 'legitimate' doesn't mean morally justifiable or positive endgame, correct?
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@coal
One way you say you are not supporting ethnocentricity or arrogant entitlement, in another way you implicitly state you want Israel to brutalise and blackmail an entire culture and group of human beings in West Bank and Gaza to lose all of their identity and culture because it is written in some bronze age texts that a certain ethnicity is superior.
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@fauxlaw
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@Benjamin
That was all afterwards. Those are the six nations I refer to.
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@thett3
I will also use pronouns that make a person happy but I think the focus should be that sports are split by sex, not gender.
This weightlifter spent 30+ years building muscle and growing as a well-fed bulky man, a male. He/she then takes some oestrogen and we have to play the fucking fool that the bulk of muscle and bone density just disappears because now after her male (at the time) body had developed she does that.
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@Vader
@zedvictor4
I think if I felt very sad, was LGBT (I am actually a little bicurious but not to an extent it mattered to me growing up) and lonely and am a teen or young adult I could dig Nas X a bit but I must say that if that's the theme I enjoy, there's emo rock, country, metal, punk etc that's far superior at conveying this. Nas X just isn't the style Iost enjoy but I can see why some would.
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@gugigor
The pressure such a multiaccounter escapes is unfair. In online poker and mafia-dedicated sites this is a common reason people despise multiaccounters. Smurfing is a coward strat.
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@Benjamin
Israel was the initial aggressor though, that's an objective fact. Even in the recent conflicts, it was Israel wjo suddenly brutalised and made homeless as well as lileld children and any residents of Jersualem who were Palestinian, indiscriminately and without warning or mercy. Suddenly Netanyahu decided Jerusalem is Israeli-only territory and poof they're ejected in a series of bloody attacks during late 2020. This then led to brooding rage and anger amongst Hamas ans Jihad.
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@Benjamin
Are you that petty that if they weren't all called Palestinian you're going to whitewash what happened?
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@thett3
Is an adult female the same thing as a woman? Female, meaning sex not gender.
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@fauxlaw
The palestinians already owned the west bank in the first place. It was their land from the start.
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