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@Lunatic
Bullish flipping as Town was the biggest mod error.
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And people will not blame the mod because it's Lunatic
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@Reece101
You are blocked, troll.
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@Reece101
Bit late for that insult since you admitted worms are eating it so it would be wrinkly and indented regardless.
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@Reece101
Brain worms must have good taste if I have some and you repel them.
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@Reece101
And what do you think they are and where is your proof?
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@Reece101
Let me know when you meet your angelic aliens that made an evil world.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I expect you not to strawman and focus on atoms and mosquitoes next to mountains or small fish next to blue whales.
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@FourTrouble
You are very strong on legal debates so I'll prefer to vs you on something non-law, you pick the topic and side and we can discuss the particulars however I'd prefer it in June, not this month.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Earthquakes, asteroids/meteors, shooting stars, supernovas, chaos in the sky and on our ground should be FAR more.
On top of this, something as universally true as gravity should surely result in even an atom, let alone a mosquito, being 'dragged' towards a massive object like a mountain, blue whale, submarine or whatever.
In fact, the concept of what Newton says gravity is is quite absurd indeed. Does a fat person, if tall and fat enough, suddenly make things near to them pull towards them? If so, i must wonder why the hairs on their bodies show absolutely not inclination either way, surely they'd be pulled in flat... Oh, right, it's all too weak...
Nothing is as massive as the Earth itself so therefore it's all too weak to show any sign of gravity to a lesser extent at all... Right...
Couldn't it just be that denser objects fall through less dense objects/substances/gases? That there really is a 'down' and a universal 'pull down' setting makes it happen at 9.8 ms^-2?
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@David
@Barney
@Reece101
What the fuck kind of comment is this:
Anyway, I thought to myself no wonder you guys have mass-school-shootings.
it's okay to say this, is it a joke or what?
I bet if I reported it, I will be punished for reporting it.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
definitely hurtling through space at a faster and more panicky rate than the sereneness we experience.
We are apparently shooting through space spinning like a hedgehog on cocaine around the sun and the entire solar system and milky way galaxy are themselves shooting through space so fast you can't imagine.
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Actually he backstabbed T-bag four times and succeeded two, both revolved around sending T-bag back to a prison.
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The first prison break is possible since he has blueprints and near-eidetic memory combined with extremely high IQ as well as the tattoos on his body to remind him even if his memory failed him.
On top of being a freak genius, somehow Scofield has charisma and high enough EQ to mastermind things socislly. As vile as the character of T-bag is, I actually admire his style of strategy and way of going about the situations. Scofield tried to backstab T-bag at three significant points in the show and only succeeded on the last attemot because T-bag had no way to fight back (sending him back to prison). Despite this T-bag forgives Scofield in the many-years-later final season.
Again, following this trend, I think the way T-bag breaks out of the Panamanian Prison is more realistic and viable than the way Scofield and the other two or three broke out.
T-bag and his strategy both in the first and second outbreak he successfully did is muchore realistic in terms of how a high functioning sociopath would go about breaking out and succeed in doing so when coming across a genius like Scofield.
The final breakout Scofield does in the final season is as unrealistic as it gets.
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Please learn to spell Libertarian since you used to identify as one.
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Orthodox Christianity, when fully embraced, is homophobic, sexist, racist (via brutally corrupt ethnocentricity in the society more so than the race itself being the focus) and basically negative in every single respect other than some nice hymns and architecture.
I didn't want to get political but seeing someone speak so high and mighty about Russian and Ukranian Orthodoxy really triggered me.
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@coal
@Vader
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@coal
I don't belong to Eastern Orthodox church, but I approve of much of its theology. And I like the liturgical aspects of its practice. At least what I've seen in Ukrainian/Russian orthodox settings.
Is the homophobia where they beat you bloody and bring shame to your entire family the selling point?
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The real god is more of a bystander who sometimes intervenes, we are like an enjoyable television show or experiment to them (I don't feel it's appropriate to call god an 'it', I'd say her as I find god to be more feminine than masculine however I would say they/them if we discuss 'sex' as opposed to gender).
The real god(dess) isn't concerned with being evil hut also isn't concerned with being entirely benevolent. I am certain she/they experimented a while back and realise it's boring as fuck to have a world where everyone is always kind and predictably selfless, even for the humans involved.
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If you mean their god, the Jewish and/or Christian God then I agree, doubt the crap out of him.
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I am not on hold, Supadudz correctly removed me but somehow I've been readded.
I'd rather stick to mafia-dedicated websites if I wish to play or host mafia. Alternatively, I'd like to see and participate in less theme-heavy setups here since people struggle immensely with theme analysis and I don't just mean in my game.
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@Benjamin
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@Benjamin
P2 is partially wrong because we are in a simulation and the alien demigods I am referring to are largely outside of it, interacting almost like phantoms/ghosts.
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They already have, they control our richest and most powerful and have another name; demons.
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@n8nrgmi
it's irrational to say people arent commonly experiencing elaborate afterlife stories when they die. it's a stupid, but admittedly possible, theory to say they're just hallucinating all these stories so consistently.
Right...
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@Username
text but the Discord group Lunatic has a thread for play it on voice primarily
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Autism has nothing to do with that. If they were autistic, they would have properly analysed the theme and tried. Autistic people are very focused on things like that, it's people who are anything but autistic that would vote for no clear reason.
I recommend researching a term before you use it.
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@ILikePie5
They didn't know nearly how bad it was until the 1990s because of what the Right Wing did to cover it up and make it 'cool'.
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how would you have made the theme or setup better?
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Supadudz
You are...Yomozuki Runa!(Yomozuki is the family name)Cute, unbiased, friendly yet ruthless. People don't know quite what to do with you and that makes you very dangerous indeed. You are extremely observant, you understand how to spot any kind of cheating and will not stand for it.You loathe anyone who will break the rules to win, however... You would stand by and allow cheating if you found it amusing or clever enough.Your role is the flavoured-scum Tracker.Each Night-Phase, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, you will learn who that player targeted that night. (You will get "no result" if this action is blocked.)You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.Also, as your role requires communication channels, please give me your Discord, I will add you as a friend and invite you to a server.You win with the Mafia!
Runa
Lunatic
You are...Yumemite Yumemi!(Yumemite is the family name)Yumeeeemiiiii ohhh yaaaaaaaaaaa! The crowd loves you! You're loved right? No. You are generally disliked and beneath it all you want to rip the concept of the gambling nonsense to shreds.You only engage in the gambling because it's forced onto you, furthermore, you aren't aiming for anything in life other than being a superstar (currently a pop idol but striving to be an actress).Your role is the flavoured-scum Superstar!I will confirm your role at the start of the game to everyone.Lucky for you, I won't reveal your alignment...Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.Also, as your role requires communication channels, please give me your Discord, I will add you as a friend and invite you to a server.You win with the Mafia.
can't find it and deleted the Discord server but it was a drawing similar to this: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ae/0d/8f/ae0d8f75a8e45922757c1bc00cf5394f.jpg
with the finger and top half of hand not present
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Whiteflame
You are...Momobami Kirari!(Momobami is the family name)At first, no new student in the school knows that you exist. Yet, you've been running the place since you were there in your first year via efficient gambling!A monster of odds analysis, a ruthless exploiter with psychological analysis... You have only one weakness...You need to feel validated as if you've earned your power, even though there'd be much easier ways to go about it. You need to know the games were fair though, you're no fan of cheating or backdoor agreements, it's one of your only redeeming qualities...Your role is the Traffic Analyst!Each Night-Phase, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, you will learn whether or not that player is able to privately communicate with another living player (you cannot distinguish between a player who is alone in a private topic, and a player who does not have private topic access at all).You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.For clarity's sake, I will specify that you are flavoured to get results at the start of night actions, you investigate before all other actions happen except for roleblocking.This means if one member of a chat dies in the night or gains access to a chat with another player during the night phase, you would receive a 'can communicate' verdict for the one who had a chat with the dead player but a 'cannot communicate' verdict for the latter.Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.You win with the Town.
The image I made on an imgur link somehow says it's 18+ and asks for consent that you are over 18 to view it. I am 100% sure it's appropriate for anyone but if you don't trust me here is the original image with a longer URL:
Kirari
I basically linked to that URL or file and imgur falsely flagged it as potentially 18+. Therefore, I won't risk linking to Imgur for legal reasons but I am telling you that is the image I uploaded.
Bullish and Ryota already revealed, please see the DP threads for those:
Earth
You are...Saotome Meari/Mary!(Saotome is the family name)At the start it was all good, you had your cronies, they did your cheating for you, you owned many pets, practically the queen of the school who simply hadn't joined the Council yet...Then, everything changed. Yumeko opened your eyes, humbled you and showed you that cheating is fine but outplaying a cheat is fantastic.What lesson did you take from that?Noone really knows, you just do your thing and keep trying to lowkey rig things in your favour regardless, however it becomes done for the greater good.Your role is the Neighborizer (I would spell this Neighbouriser, however I am remaining loyal to the MafiaScum spelling, I am letting you know how I'd spell it so you don't unfairly 'slip').Each night-phase, you select a player. That player joins you in a chat that remains open all game long however when the player(s) die(s) they leave the chat.Your chat is known as a neighbourhood (or 'neighborhood', this is getting tiring), they gain the ability to chat inside it the next dayphase.Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role. Please send your Discord to me, it's necessary for your communication abilities. I did not ask for the Discord from players in town who lack them, in this PM for them, in case you'd 'slip' by mentioning it.You win with the Town.Note: Your role will indeed successfully recruit scum to the neighbourhood. You have no way of knowing for sure.
If Earth's neighbors or he himself died, they were ejected from chat. Same for Bullish (this was decided after making the role, primarily for balancing out what whiteflame could and couldn't detect on Night 2 if Town had steamrolled).
I sent him an image originally but felt there was too much about it that could lead to a fallacious scumread if he were to describe it:
So I made this his new image and considered him 'informed-flavoured' about the theme.
ILikepie5
You are...Ikishima Midari!(Ikishima is the family name)Most of these students are some outright posers. They think they gamble but really they just sit there, analyse odds, make calculated moves and garner cash by dirty play. You don't mind the dirty play, but why don't they risk?Where is the masochism?! Where is the thrill?!You are the flavoured-compulsive Bodyguard.Each Night-Phase, you pick someone to save and if they're killed you die in their place.If you were to be inactive and not send me a night action, I will use random.org to compel your action and let you know who it was acted on via PM.Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.You win with the Town.
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The mafia has won.
The theme split was:
- All Scum come to accept that defeat is an inevitable and healthy part of life. Yumemi Yumemite accepting this and Midari Ikishima not accepting this was the most deceptive part of the theme split and why I felt comfortable revealing it, I will justify this later. Midari enjoys losing out of masochistic impulse, not out of genuine humility and definitely thinks people who win are corrupt cowards usually unless they put their life on the line without cheating.
- All Town not only respect Yumeko Jabami in a genuine sense but they conform (not necessarily respect) the system in the school, even the rebel Midari who was personally responsible for the forced marriage arrangements going on with some losers who couldn't pay their debts (Kirari masterminded it and was also Town). In short, the Town conforms the most to society, though Meari is rebellious as her character develops she still maintains an ultimately conservative playstyle and ethos throughout. Yumeko conforms on the outside (how she dresses and acts) but inside is a complete anarchist, Yumemi Yumemite and Runa Yomozuki don't conform much at all, they love to stand out in multiple ways, Runa is the only Council member who loathes both cheating as well as ever risking too much at any given time (she is never even seen to gamble in the series' two seasons) and dresses very peculiar. Yumeko Jabami doesn't respect herself and Yumemi only fears Yumeko, she doesn't genuinely respect her at all she thinks Yumeko is merely lucky and crazy but accepts her defeat to Yumeko regardless. This was an interesting fused theme-split, you could even break this apart into two layers but a theme 'around Yumeko and who respects her' sounds unfair to make its own thing.
- The third split is nearly unnoticeable. The Town all play with an agenda at all times. They never play a gamble without an agenda behind it at any point int he two seasons though Kirari comes close. Yumeko has an agenda at all times but also plays for the thrill itself. Yumemi and Runa may have agendas in part but both adore gambling itself. Yumemi intentionally lost sections of her serial-gamble contest vs Yumeko just because she thought it would be more spectacular.
The roles were balanced such that if 1-2 members of any team were both bad, that team would almost 100% come to be defeated while the other 2 stand a chance.
That is true for almost all 7-player setups but this was very well balanced in my opinion.
There was no role in the game that had no capacity to lose if they or their teammate screwed up significantly, there was also no role in the game that had no capacity to win if they played proficiently, especially as I noticed you guys didn't know the theme so I revealed a layer of the theme to help.
The images had this in common: All Town faced forward with their body and head (but Midari looked up). All held in their hands something to do with stakes/gambling as well as something significant in the storyline that nearly hurts them and shows a human side to them. Also, all the town were sombre or unhappy in expression.
The thirdparty had a couple of things in common and quite a few things to lead to the thirdparty describing their image in a way that despite being similar enough could lead Town to suspect them.
The Mafia were even directly baited and misled by me in part because the clue I gave them to counteract the theme-split suggested that their torsos facing left of the image and their happy expressions didn't really matter. On the other hand, my clue did help them realise that Runa carrying a lollypop and having cards swirling around her probably implied that I had mixed some things around, I'll reveal the hint and specifics in my next post.
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@ILikePie5
I made a mistake because I thought about this situation wrong, sorry.
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Pie has died saving whiteflame who was converted, mafia are 2-2
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@ILikePie5
I made a mistake the game is over. Mafia wins.
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@Earth
@Lunatic
@Vader
@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
DP2 begins immediately. 72 hours.
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During NP1, Bullish found his way to the graveyard.
Jabami Yumeko!(Jabami is the family name)Ayyyyyyyyyyy, what luck! Let's get gambling!"Yuuumeekkoooo!" screams Ryota, one of the few to call you by your given name (as opposed to Jabami). You're at it again, gambing like the risk-lusting degenerate you r-... That people mistake you to be.Or? Are you?Who knows in the end? The point is... There is no point. You see that, all the other students think there's a point to the gambling.Ryota thought there was a bad point to the gambling, Meari thought there's a good point to it... You showed both that neither was right.Your role is the Cult Mentor!You have the following active ability:Each Night-Phase, you can opt to recruit someone as your Mentee. The Mentee is told who you are and will share a private chat with you.You dying kills your Mentee but if the Mentee dies, you are free to recruit another (up to 1 at any time).The Mentee's win-condition, once recruited, is you being alive at the end of the game (this isn't as simple as your win condition though), they cannot win with their old alignment anymore but maintain that role and power. They lose if you lose, their entire alignment changes to support you but their role power remains.Your win-condition is to last to the final 2 of the game or, if alive and the game ends. It will not be easy but Yumeko never was one for easy gambles.To be clear, you can joint-win with Mafia if there is one Mafia and you at the end.Another thing to note is that I will be putting in the death-message of your mentee that they were corrupted somehow (so if they were vanilla, I would say "(corrupted) vanilla") and then when I say 'You win with the X!" I will put - instead of their old alignment (X) and end the sentence there.This is done to balance things so that town are unsure if it's mafia doing it or a third party, while letting mafia be aware that the third-party role can do something to town players without using a mechanical term that reveals exactly what.You act before the Mafia kill as well as any other night-phase kill goes through. Your mentee will be revealed as corrupted if they die the same night you recruit them.Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role. Also, as your role requires communication channels, please give me your Discord, I will add you as a friend and invite you to a server.Town members who lack communication did not get asked to give me their Discord, in case you would slip that way.You win with yourself (and your mentees, under the conditions described, they can win with you losing if you're alive in a minority at the end, I will not make this explicitly clear to them however)Everyone else received 'You win with the Town/Mafia.' at the end there.It is recommended to you to claim Cop. There is guaranteed no Town Cop and guaranteed a(or multiple) Town Role(s) that protect(s). This information is given to you in order to balance out the game. I will justify this after the game is over.YumekoWhile most memebrs had a decebt sized (not super short) role and character PM, yours is significantly longer than any town members'. Do not slip by saying it was so long, it would be unfair for me to not tell you this.For balancing reasons, if you mentor a member of the mafia, they will be ejected from the Mafia factional chat and the partner will be told nothing direct. they lose the ability to nightkill, that's how I'll balance it.
After outing a major hint about the theme-split, I gave this clue to Bullish:
I think my hint may be too powerful against your character btw, just a tip.
I will not out who he has mentored or if it succeeded.
Good luck to any and all sides remaining.
Dead Mentees don't stay in the chat nor do dead Mentors, the same is not true for Mafia and their factional chat.
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@Theweakeredge
It's not a war, you just think it is. Your OP and your general approach to this presumes either one 100% supports all transitions or one loathes transgenders entirely.
There are middleground approaches.
I, for one, like and respect the trans movement and finding one's true self irrespective of societal norms is very freeing and enlightening indeed. The question is, if gender is a social construct and biological sex has 0% link to gender, why then do people need to take artificial hormones and even permanently scarring operations to their private parts, in order to play the role of the other gender?
Why not just be a masculine female or feminine male or whatever your true self is? Why transition?
I know the answer, my third link explains it quite well; if you surrender to socially constructed genders, you end up feeling you need to force your body to mimic said gender's attached biological sex.
That is the contradiction that drives many trans people to assume they need to alter their bodies in severe ways in order to be the feminine male or masculine female they simply already are. Does it make them happier? Sometimes. Do they deeply regret it? Sometimes.
It's not close-mindedness that drives my perspective, it's the very opposite.
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@ILikePie5
Trump loves smokers, all his 'friends' were pro-smoking, most still are. It's the right wing that buried health research for decades to indirectly manslaughter millions.
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@bmdrocks21
Keep dreaming
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@bmdrocks21
You think Nixon was the best President. I think that itself highlights how different you and I are.
She has to sway centrists to all vote her next election (she's running let's face it). So, I am very happy with her strategy so far, I never want a piece of shit like Trump to even have a chance at power again.
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@bmdrocks21
Considering it's now up to States to make weed legal, that's always been the case... That's not new, she just made it clearer in the law.
Truancy stuff shouldn't be enforced to some hardcore tyranny level but if a kid is missing like 3 or more days (especially in a row) and it's nothing to do with revision around exam time then yeah that's bad parenting. I think schools should come down heavy on bullying that may inspire truancy though.
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@bmdrocks21
She wasn't solely hired for being female and non-Caucasian. Sure, they were most likely factors but look at her life and career, she's an extremely competent choice both on paper and in practice.
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Nobody type, Twilight typing zone is ruled out because I am here.
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