RationalMadman

Can I ask you something sincerely? I've already hinted at it before but now I have to ask.

Why the fuck are you laughing about this?

Even if you are ridiculous enough to think he's innocent, how is that funny to you?

LOL!

I forfeit sometimes but I win even though I forfeit as well, I also know I tie a lot with no-votes so it's sometimes worth forfeiting so I don't waste effort.

I am realistic in my aims, I am prepared to lose any debate I engage in. You seem to think I should only accept 'sure win' debates.

You are welcome to watch me handle the 8 debates.

As for the things you're crying about, I didn't try to get you banned, I tried to get you warned and racist vitriol censored. Couldn't care less what 'amendment' you think applies to a private website.

You are far too 'friendly and laidback' when discussing horribly racist things and you draw comparisons between them and other things with no real link.

We can't all be Ben Shapiro

Not all of us are even in the age group to get access to the vaccine this month.

Everyone who had alzheimer's and diabetes and died, probably did die due to Covid especially as that death rate isore spread out tha  just per-year bursts and both are high vulnerability groups for covid-19 causing the patient death.

Is Covid an issue? Of course. Those that are in high-risk categories should all get vaccinated but those that aren't should be free to choose (actually those that are should be free to risk their life in a way).

It's important everyone gets access to the information and opportunity to get vaccinated. Those that opt-out shouldn't be blackmailed to get it, however they will be restricted in terms of international travel and careers (all medical staff should be forced to get the vaccine at the very least).

Unless your populace are used to you being a dictator (like China is to its people), it's best to let them understand it's their consensual decision. This ends up actually helping those with conspriacy theories and doubts build trust and comfort with the idea of getting a vaccine. It's a psychological trick, yes, however the opposite will blackmail those who won't feel the trust anyway while making many who would have eased up to the idea, freak out.

Greyparrot forgets that it's on  top of what they've paid in tax and may have included people who don't believe in or care about climate change, be also doesn't make clear what income level the survey asked.

Nonsense. You can care about starving people without donating a massive amount, especially if you're a low income earner.

You are talking with extremely low EQ to a point where I don't think you and I are able to even grasp the same concepts here. 

You admit in your last paragraph to suppressing your emotions as much as possible. This is very much what people of low EQ tend to end up doing.

EQ isn't just external emotional intelligence, it's also how aware and healthy one is with their own emotions (not just the emotions of others). You can care about something that you can't do much about, that feeling is real and exists. You're denying it exists and yet also saying that the only issues worth caring about are those so massive that you can't individually stop them to any significant degree. 

Your position is so twisted in logic and absent of EQ yet claims to have perfectly understood what people care and don't care about. 

If you don't care about cops and how they may mistreat people, especially when it's based on something as severely wrong as racism, then kindly state your position. You couldn't give a fuck about the suffering if the arbitrary number doesn't fit your arbitrary scale right? 

What are you doing to save the starving people? Oh, sorry, you don't care.

If you actually felt the emotions you're merely theorising about, you'd realise that not only can one care both about starvation and cop brutality but furthermore that an issue close to home even if numerically smaller, draws higher emotional intensity by default.

The reason you don't understand this seems to be that either you aren't feeling the emotions or that you're channeling them in ways most do not.

Grey Parrot, practically none of your posts to any Politics thread at all are worth an in-depth reply so this won't be an exception.

That's what I call not caring about the small number. Xoxo

How do you 'rationalise' and then produce emotion? Sounds like you mean how much care you think you should feel as opposed to how much care and anger you actually feel.

No idea what you're referring to in terms of Jews losing faith. Judaism, post-Nazis, was still very prominent amongst the ethnicity. That's what inspired them to make Israel.

My point about when religions become less theological and more ethnic is scenarios where if you attack the religion, it can count as a hate crime and you can be silenced (if those of the ethnicity thst typically adheres to that religion deem it offensive).

We have a situation where you cannot, literally cannot, in any mainstream or publicanmer attack most religions without being called a racist (not just Judaism but Judaism is particularly severe in how strongly it attaches gebrtic race, sociological ethnicity and theological religion.

This is a big issue. The term Islamophobe is infact one of the best examples of a wrong semantic term becoming mainstream. It refers to a hatred and gostility towards arabs, kurds, turks and North Africans (some others too but primarily those). What it refers to is racism and usually white supremacy. Islam is something we cannot admit we dislike or discuss the problems of without us being labelled islamophobic with racist, anti-ethnic connotations.

The fact apostacy is punishable by death abd that many families will completely disown you if you break away from the religion mean it has become an artificially attached part of someone's genetic, innate identity.

You should not be incapable of becoming an atheist or changing religion from the onr your family and culture pressured you into conforming to while growing up. If you're being blackmailed to remain part of it, that is the real evil, not others discussing issues with the theology.

I see. Cops don't kill the majority of people they arrest, that is true, however when it happens it should indeed be treated as extreme. I am having difficulty following your logic. What number makes you care and what number makes you not give a fuck when it comes to police abuse, especially when it results in murder or perhaps death via preemptive self defense (from their perspective) that turns out to have been unnecessary later on?

With regards to lynching, some of the most brutal lynchings have actually been done in recent times by Africans to each other (burning accused pedophiles alive with tires around them). This happens in other places too but generally is least common now in this day and age amongst Caucasian-heavy nations.

So, I agree, lynching has never been a Caucasian-on-black-only thing globally. However, where it was most prominent amongst Caucasian societies was murkier than elsewhere (where it's consistently 'mob justice' as you put it). For instance, in europe the witch hunts (not metaphor, the literal drowning and/or burning of females based on them being particularly offputting in nose shape or warty appearance) as well as of 'whores' (basically any woman accused of adultery or sleeping around, even if she/they was/were raped) were in particular horrors and they were almost always white-on-white (even though the actual OG witches of this planet were pagan Africans and in their cultures even a male could be a witch doctor).

A lot of people assume words and concepts apply only in a western context and indeed give it connotation that it globally only has as a minority (as it's meant the 'other way' much more). Another example of this is having an issue with Islam. Generally it is actually Muslims themselves who are fighting over Islam and it's rarely a racism thing. If you would find fault with Islam in the 'western world' (other than on a relatively anonymous debate site like this) you'd be called a racist against certain Islamic ethnicities. Even if you never even lifted a finger or encouraged it, you could be accused of a hate crime for the things you say about their religion. This is a huge issue in all honesty but to be fair, in Islam and Judaism both, their actual scripture seems to imply that if you're 'born into the religion' you have no right to leave it whatsoever (and should be killed, it says in Islam). Thankfully, not all adhere to this but entire nations like Pakistan, Saudi, Iran and such have this essentially legislated by they cover it up with things like 'blasphemy laws' and 'apostacy laws' so that they can say they don't hurt non-Muslims even though they do hurt Muslims who become non-Muslims ('hurt' is an understatement).

Was Yeshua Yahweh in the flesh, yes or no?

You lost the war despite demolishing them because they turned the US people against their corrupt and merciless government. The military you pride yourself on were slaughtering families, entire villages in the jungle if they so pleased. The Vietnamese were much smarter than the US predicted, they exposed the US for what it was doing and held important hostages such as John McCain until US begged them to make peace.

Surely it is Jews, as opposed to predominantly Christians, who truly should have lost their faith after what occurred there.

The reason they didn't is that they need God to be true and it's more of a tradition and culture thing for their ethnicity than a theological religion. This is also how Muslims are able to maintain their religion throughout changing times. If Muslims actually stuck to the Qur'an, Hadith and Sharia Law ethos, we'd have a brutal world war 3 on our hands already (no, I am not misinformed, I have read the Qur'an and grasped what is taught in the Hadith, it is terrifyingly violence-encouraging, sexist and homophobic to say the least).

The culture and ethnicity of most Jews, Christians and Muslims (actually also Hindus, Jains, Sikhs and basically all religions where you're 'raised into it') are able to adapt away from their scripture because they claim birthright to the religion and see it as part of their identity (to speak against the Theology is considered hate speech against the ethnicity very often). This is why it is superior to push the ethnicity to adapt away from the nastier parts of their religion, rather than nitpick and force them to admit they are incorrect to be following it.

You can call me an asshole for my stance here, you can definitely call me manipulative but this strategy gets world peace, your strategy gets theological wars.

India, Pakistan, Nepal, Nigeria, Kenya, South Africa, Brazil, Argentina, Peru, Saudi Arabia, Iran, (you won't admit China is but I would say China), Bangladesh, Ghana, Uganda, Ethiopia, Indonesia, Malaysia, United Arab Emirates, Kuwait, Qatar, Iraq, Egypt, Morocco, Singapore and the list goes on and on.

Oh and the entire Eastern Europe as well as Russia depending on whether you consider them 'Western' or not.

I'd mention South Korea but you'd say what you said about Japan, most likely.

Abraham was an idiot. I agree with zedvictor on this and rarely do I do so. Seek psychiatric help if this is genuinely occuring for you. If you can't afford it, reach out to a loved one and beg. This is dangerous, extremely so.

I'll be busy anyway during that period but I wouldn't want my DART account to become famous.

I'm also not skilled enough yet at understanding how to pace my aggression and stuff during the game. I may actually be skilled enough but not know I am (certain annoying moves may be great moves, I don't know yet) and I think this is true for most DART Mafia players as most here are casuals. I'm going to practise a bit at MafiaScum or even Mafia Universe and see if I can hone my skills. Then I may consider it but again I'm not really sure I want my DART account to be famous.

This year I think we should send Lunatic.

The same way you as a Libertarian can be outraged by tyranny even though you can't name half the victims.

What economic factors do you believe play into blacks getting much less quality education and opportunities to learn a path in life and way out of the 'hood' that doesn't involve violence?

Just to be clear, violence on a criminal level is only part of what BLM seeks to stop. Police mishandling and bias as well as courtroom bias are other major factors (as well as general economic fairness and equality of opportunity).

Mob justice is what those cops did to Floyd, what they are about to experience is backlash for it.

As for courts, the entire concept of a jury literally is mob justice, hoping that the mob is reasonable enough and unbiased enough via good selection process. That is the thesis on which juries are based.

Prison itself is mob justice, we throw a bunch of criminals in cages together to physically and emotionally abuse one another to the point of breaking.

The drugs may have assisted in his inability to breathe but in no shape or form is what happened justifiable. Chauvin literally is holding the guy down unconscious, not moving at all or saying a word and brings out Mace pepper spray to scare off witnesses who wanted to intervene and save Floyd's life.

He deserves every bit of what's coming to him and if it doesn't come, the court was corrupted somehow.

I could not in good faith be the judge, defense lawyer or Jury member of this case. I am 100% certain and convinced he is guilty of the murder. I would happily be in the jury if need be, however I guarantee that absolutely nothing that comes up in court would convince me otherwise. There are certain things where being 'openminded' is actually intellectual dishonesty, even though normally it's intellectual honesty. To me, this is one of them. Absolutely no way to convince me otherwise, I have seen and read enough on the topic to fully believe it.

provide feedback on mafia game concepts I misunderstand.

No, you see unlike you and some other right-wingers on this website, I'm not playing some game where I predict the outcome of the court case, I'm stating what happened. If the court find him not guilty, the court case was corrupted somehow. It's irrefutable what occurred.

Seeing your other posts, it's not wonder you're so blissfully ignorant of what is and isn't relevant with regards to BLM and current news.

The trial is happening right now, in case you had no clue.

Bullshit CoC

Totally clear, teach me senpai

What does done mean?

Interested?

Interested?

By the way I may have to make some mechanics or roles non-typical flavoured/styled. The theme fits with heavy gambits and I want to let risk vs reward be a concept throughout. I will potentially have only 1 or 2 vanillas.

Are any of you interested?

How few people would make a decent game? What would you say the minimum is? 7?

Also, you need to work on towntelling if you have an issue with players like myself scumreading you. Nothing you did day one was towny at all other than forcing an OGI bet.

I see. You did actually have a day one read; you and even FT before I claimed, thought Earth and me were scum. You kept thinking that, being willing to lynch me and encouraging Whiteflame to push for it. :)

Oh and Oromagi too out of nowhere from the get-go, just by luck he was.

You were no different to Oromagi than I was to you but I had more reason to suspect you than you had to suspect him until he kept lurking through latter day-1 and all of day-2.

By the way, your profile still lists your religion as Pastafarianism.

Familial and peer pressure can have that effect on someone.

Eventually you'll realise what you experienced was merely a need to feel relaxed and stop opposing the pressure that was pushing you to conform.

That's not something anyone is truly immune to, no matter how headstrong and introverted, the pressure does hit us all.

Aww, poor coal can't handle the pressure.

The only reason you resent me is when you try to bulldoze the town to cave in, I don't and I even reverse the pressure onto you.

You play with an air of arrogance that is absolutely unearned. Your reads were basically that lurkers were scummy and you were lucky that the lurkers were scum so of course your reads ended up 'right'. You didn't even post your reads until day 2 when Pie forced you to.

Historybuff is expecting a reply from ilikepie5

Regardless of my reads, I stand by the concept that forcing a massclaim one by one was optimal for town.

In fact, that would have been the only way to make some theme as sneaky as dragneel's being scum get exposed.

We could arrange night actions with ease to have 70% of the players proving themselves by the next day.

You said you were totally 'cool with it' when Coal asked you to help him lynch me.

Jellal would always be on the same side as Erza (and Erza on the same side as Doranbolt) in almost all conceivable themes.

This was a huge factor in why I really didn't like the bandwagon on Earth and why I never pushed on FT after I understood the basic idea of Fairy Tail characters.

RM investigated Lunatic.

FT was extremely anti-town in every way now that I know the daycop was faked.

I'd still hesitate to lynch him because why would scum be that obvious.

wait he faked the cop read?!

While my reads weren't perfect, they sure as hell weren't entirely wrong either.

Me reading Earth and FT both as town in the position I was in is a read and way of handling the situation that is extremely pro-town and I have no shame in how I put pressure on Coal and whiteflame.

Well done, you made a sarcastic 'joke'. That really proved your point.