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@HistoryBuff
I doubt he will reply to you.
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@fauxlaw
I have no idea what your virtue signalling is about. You're not a better person than either side just because you stick your head in the sand and say 'what will be will be'.
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If I made this thread while residing in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Iran and a few other places, I would most likely be killed (in a brutal manner) if the government (or even most citizens) ever found.
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Sharia Law doesn't consider Communists a nemesis.
This couldn't be further from the truth. The US funded Al Qaeda and the Taliban to not only gain footing but to help the US hurt USSR and Viet Nam in particular, such that the Communists and/or Socialists couldn't fight back without taking troops and resources away from combatting American troops.
There wasn't a single Sharia Law enthusiast group that didn't support the US and Capitalists during the Cold War, they hated America later on when the US decided to do similar things to them that it did to the Communist/Socialist nations
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@triangle.128k
Yes, just not in name. The Nomads weren't that Fascist of course but if you analyse Muhammad's teachings, especially in the Hadith but even in the Qur'an, it was all about blackmailing those born in the vicinity to obey the religion and its harshest teachings or to be mericless onto them. It also states that it considers Muslims superior to others at several places in both the Hadith and Qur'an.
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@ILikePie5
How do you justify how long he was on Floyd's neck?
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2) Having Black skin makes you genetically vulnerable to police encounters and it's the only viable reason why they must resist arrest.
Not genetically vulnerable to police encounters, but vulnerable due to psychological bias leading to far more willingness of cops to brutally manhandle, search without warrant etc. When I say search without warrant, I even mean premises, not just stop-and-search clothing and backpacks/handbags.
There are of course good police officers who try their best to avoid any bias, it isn't them I am referring to.
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3) Oppressed people should never be arrested, no matter what criminal behavior they display.
Who is defending this? Weird strawman
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1) Racism is a much more grievous crime than resisting arrest.
You DISAGREE with this?
That racism in a police force to the level of brutalising an arrestee and throwing him around like a ragdoll is worse than said arestee resisting arrest under the influence of drugs? Actually I don't see him lash out even once at the cops. I don't know wtf you're suggesting, you think racism is less bad than resisting arrest?
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A picture is worth a thousand words and a selectively edited video is worth a thousand lies.
Kindly show me the unedited video that in any shape or form vindicated Chauvin.
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Except for the name of the religion?
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@HistoryBuff
Less blindness, more a basic comprehension issue.
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the only country to ever nuke a nation and slaughter many innocents in the name of saying 'fuck you' to the government (which it didn't bomb a single member of) is the US.
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@ILikePie5
Yeah this is why I block you and each time you wonder why. Your replies to my george floyd thread as well as this show 100% bad faith responses.
You only respond to trigger negative emotions in me, you never try to understand my viewpoint or even engage with me as a person.
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Which part of it is carefully edited? Kindly show me the unedited video that in any shape or form vindicated Chauvin.
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@ILikePie5
B.) You haven’t watched the entire
Entire what? Trial?
If you literally see something happen in front of your eyes (even if it's via a video) and there is absolutely no reason to think it's photoshopped or doctored, what precisely 'more proof' is it you would need? I am curious.
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GreyParrot do you do anything other than dodge solid proof and reply with asinine 'hehe i'm so funny look at me' jibes?
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@ILikePie5
A.) You’re not on the juryB.) You haven’t watched the entireC.) Your opinion that it’s “wrong” holds no value.If Chauvin walks he walks, deal with it. In your safe space if you have to :)
I see, so your opinion is that it isn't wrong, is that correct? Or are you an opinionless sheep who thinks whatever the 12 people in the jury think is automatically correct?
Out of curiosity why do you and greyparrot think there exists an appeals system to trials?
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@ILikePie5
You like to cherry pick and ask irrelevant questions to most things in the politics forum, so I am assuming you were only asking for proof of a negative.
Provide me evidence a single person was released until it was shut down. Then, when you realise noone was, provide me evidence every single person was guilty.
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@ILikePie5
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@ILikePie5
Bye. If you'd accept a wrong verdict by the court, you're pretty stupid btw.
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@ILikePie5
And all the innocents that they tortured beyond any justifiable level. They never released anyone from it even if they found they were innocent, while it was still in action.
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@ILikePie5
Best question: I’ll accept the fact that Chauvin is guilty if the jury convicts him. Will you accept the fact that he’s not guilty if the jury doesn’t convict him or if there’s a hung jury?
Of course not, I will accept the proof. Courts of law are needed to trigger enforcement, not to conclude, otherwise wrongful convictions or vindication would never happen. You don't need a court case to conclude that something that literally has been filmed happening and admitted by the police force as happening as well as many onlookers willingly giving their footage to news sources and now the courts happening.
The fact ordinary people, unaligned with either Floyd or the cops, were there to witness and expose it, is the absolute reason to fully believe it. They can't possibly have motive to lie.
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@ILikePie5
The 9 minutes? All of it? The footage from before that? Nearly all of it. Hbu? How much of the footage from before have you watched?
I am confused, are you suggesting there's footage to in any shape or form make more acceptable or justifiable the taking of life and ragdoll manhandling that took place?
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@ILikePie5
Interactions before the cops even got there and before they put him on the ground.
between?
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@ILikePie5
Why the fuck are you even defending it? Tell me how much of the video you even watched.
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@ILikePie5
Tell me a single part of the picture it doesn't tell.
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@fauxlaw
By that logic, all good Christians are not Jesus either, they're just humans doing things with their own agenda and carrying his cross. So because they're not Jesus they are not Christians?
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@ILikePie5
Videographic evidence is one of the most solid forms of evidence there is.
Correction to the above post: 'autopay report' means autopsy report.
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@ILikePie5
Then you need to research history of both Chauvin and cop aggression in general. I'm glad the only thing you could say wasn't 100% proven was tbe racist motive, that means you admit all the rest.
I guarantee you they wouldn't have mandhandled a caucasian suspect to that brutal level. They threw him around like a ragdoll until he suffocated to death.
Chauvin irrefutably murdered him with intent. You can see he doesn't release the knee on the neck. Stop running to an autopay report and what it doesn't explocitly say before vindicating.
Where's your smiley emojis and arrogance? Why not talk about the murder?
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Do not talk. Do not say a word. Do not type. Watch a murderous racist abuse of police power take place and pay some fucking respect.
It makes me sick that you idiots can even fall for some bullshit propaganda. Stfu and watch it. Understand what you are defending.
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Shit man, I wonder what you'd say about this other species I know.
They gang-rape, they pillage, they torture, they bully, they kill all other species as they please, they destroy entire habitats if they so feel like inhabiting an area, often out of greed much more so than anything resembling necessity and they make those sociopathic dolphins do somersaults and other tricks for their own enjoyment.
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@TheUnderdog
You are trying to attack anarchism itself, so base your attack like that and start off with the same topic with 'anarchy' instead of 'ancom'.
Then, realise the error you made. You assumed ancoms want a government to enforce it, they don't but they settle for it because society hasn't evolved to the level where we share for the greater good, so readily.
Once you appreciate that, you will realise the flaw in Ancom isn't contradiction, it's impractical idealism. Attack based on humans being too selfishly impulsive for it to work.
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@FLRW
I'll rebuke you like this:
Your closing sentence concedes that for all you know you were merely unplugged from the Matrix for that period of time inside it.
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@TheUnderdog
Would you like me to help you attack Anarcho-Communism?
Your current attack is very shallow.
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@Undefeatable
Oromagi deserves respect where it's due, he didn't play it totally safe in terms of topics and opponents. He defeated me more than once and topic-wise didn't ever play dirty to do so.
He won primarily due to voter bias in both of the instances but a defeat is a defeat. He deeply researches topics like a machine and makes you bleed out for every character you spend.
I fear debating him and have no problem admitting it. I can take on more topics and angles than him, I am not denying that but if he agrees to a topic against me, I know he will make me put blood, sweat and tears in to win.
He's won 500-character debates.
I don't want to shit on his legacy, he earned his position there is no doubt. He lacks the love for debating in and of itself that I think people like you and I have but when he does it, he's a monster of efficient point-spam and information overload.
Edit: I remembered wrong, I debated him twice and lost both times, the forfeit debate was vs someone else,.
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@Barney
^^^^^ you tell me this shit is okay? I warned you about him.
I am asking you to really look at that post and consider what else he has posted. Racism isn't a joke.
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@TheUnderdog
You replied to me but this isn't my thread xD
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It was a debate, not a physical fight, however I accept your vote. As I said, it's the way the game is played, there's elements within voter interpretation that are gambles, it's the part of debating that does separate it from Chess.
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Main reasom I'm not top ten is people leave my debates vs high ranked debaters either as ties or favouritist losses (but that was a while ago, the favoritism thing).
The past seven debates or whatever that I've vsd undefeatable had barely any votes. The wrestling debate you voted against me on vs sum1hugme is strange how you concluded what he proved vs what I didn't but that's part of the game I guess.
Top ten or bottom ten, I'm proud of what I do and how active I am. If being active is the paramount thing, ranking should be secondary especially when so many debates end as unvoted ties. Unvoted toes don't affect rating like a voted tie would, the admin did that for fairness on the higher rates debater who would otherwise lose rating.
It's fine to be all elitist and stiff but this site only has ten active debaters at most anyway, so all active debaters are the top ten if you're using that as qualification.
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Yahshuah, not Yeshua. There's a significant semantic difference. Yahshuah means 'your saviour'.
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People called him what they called god as things proceeded, he was Yahweh in the flesh to many Christians.
Remember, Christians wrote the Bible almost a whole generation (or two considering how short people's lifespans were) after Jesus was already dead and pretended it was written in present tense by the disciples and others around then.
Remember, Christians wrote the Bible almost a whole generation (or two considering how short people's lifespans were) after Jesus was already dead and pretended it was written in present tense by the disciples and others around then.
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@FLRW
A very simplistic robot is equivalent to a standard insect, I'd concede that.
I'd completely oopose either being self-aware.
I realise now that you're using the term to mean conscious, not aware of one's own existence as a concept.
Spiders are actually slightly capable of self awareness, even more so than most reptiles are. The way a spider of high complexity relative to spiders traps, lures and predicts insects involce the spider realising it can be seen by them and outting in a huge amount of effort to both conceal itself and its web. Pet spiders are known to readily interact in eager near-playful ways with owners despite also lacking emotions similar to insects. It isn't love they experience but a sense of companionship.
Spiders are actually extroverted by nature, they become introverted because they believe it's best by instinct as their ethos revolves around stealth and simplicity. The reasonany female spiders eat or at least attack the male after sex is because they think that the male spider actually wants to be devoured similar to how he's letting them devour the sperm. The female does not realise she is hurting him against his will. Spiders have extremely low EQ but they do show signs of extroversion, especially in settings like tanks where they can be made to interact closer to one another than is typical.
Unfortunately, big spiders will eat small spiders of otber species because they assume it's simply an exotic insect of some kind. Spiders are jot a species with many breeds, they're a branch within arachnid that has many species. However within them sometimes they have clumps tbat theoretically could reproduce with one another due to being close enough in DNA but that don't due to some inbuilt lack of attraction to that similar spider species/breee.
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@Mandrakel
My poor attempt is what literally everyone realised when reading your thread.
Are you Willows or Disgusted?
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@Mandrakel
Restrictions as in banning children and adolescents getting access to material that depicts religious outlooks and philosophical concepts that do not adhere to how you perceive reality.
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