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@ILikePie5
Most Town:PieRMOroMCLunaticCoalWFSpeedFTEarth
I agree with this list a lot, Earth being so low isn't what I see and FT definitely not that low for me.
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@FourTrouble
My current reads, from most town to most scum:Oro - WHAT? How? #1?Luna - ABOVE ME AND MC LOL!Coal - 😂MC - 👍RM - Right... Only thiswhiteflame - 👍Pie - 😂Speed - 👍Earth - Fair enough, given you have ignored thematic analysis
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@ILikePie5
If earth flips town he's miller who appears guilty on cop reports, just clarifying something because you have made a mechanically wrong statement about how his flip relates to FT.
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@Intelligence_06
As others have said, it's not free for the taxpayer. Why did you think they were against it?
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Unvote Coal
VTL whiteflame
I think both are scum but I am fine either way, one must be forced to out so if everyone is reluctant to vote Coal, I am fine shifting onto whiteflame. Especially as Speedrace is now here so CC will occur if WF fakeclaims well.
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When I inevitably die this night phase, Coal and Whiteflame must face off next day phase. One of them is scum, minimum. Do not let them slide by.
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@coal
Okay, you are blocked. Had enough of you. What you've said all game is indeed blah blah blah. Start contribution rather than having a dick measuring contest with me over which of us is more certain of your alignment (obviously it's you, even if you are scum).
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@coal
I will make this crystal clear for you.
Firstly, nothing is holding us to our word.
Secondly, I have asked thr game mod to punish you for the OGI. You are breaking the one of the most sacred rule in Mafia. You are attempting to use unfair stakes to brutalise your opponents into submission, this never ever is allowed. OGI is completely immoral to involve in Mafia, my debate Rating also meansore to me than yours does to you on this website and I do repeat that your inability to towntell is as much a factor as my inability to read you if I am wrong. Stop this bullshit, I'm not taking any bait.
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@coal
If by no idea you mean I don't know your role and alignment this game as opposed to estimating, then yes.
If by no idea, you mean I don't think so, then no. I also notice your OGI offer wasn't two-way. It never said if I was correct you'd FF.
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@coal
If I am wrong, tour inability to towntell to me is at play as well, not just my inability to read you.
I will adapt how I read you if I am wrong but I don't think you have the humility to adapt how you towntell if you are misread by me.
I will adapt how I read you if I am wrong but I don't think you have the humility to adapt how you towntell if you are misread by me.
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isn't a fair thing to allow town to do scum in any scenario, f
This isn't a slip, it should be illegal to force tells like that because if I was scum or town and was dead shre kf my read jt would be unfair.
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@coal
@Vader
I'm not doing this OGI shit.
Supadudz, this outside-game influence and threats of repercussion to influence in-game decisions. This should be absolutely illegal to demand because it isn't a fair thing to allow town to do scum in any scenario, furthermore it is wintradimg for debate rating.
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@ILikePie5
Wrong. If we go into N1 with a lotore in the open we almost definitely will have ly ched correctly already with today's lynch and the PRs can much more accurately aim their powers.
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@coal
I do. I needn't offer myself to be lynched fir town to lose if I'm wrong.
Even if I feel absolutely certain of a gamble I'd never gamble with money I wasn't willing to lose.
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At the moment Mafia has absolutely all information. We have jack shit.
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We are outing everyone and every single thing about the theme and role balance if it were up to me
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I am not lynchable unless you're gamethrowing
This isn't a scumslip
I was speaking to him along the logical framework of him being a town PR which he was trying to strongly imply to me
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It's riskier to blindly lynch Earth and die revealing nothing from my individual perspective so risk-wise I'm just fine.
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@coal
I don't need tk risk anything, I am uncc'd Doranbolt and uncc'd night cop.
I am not lynchable unless you're gamethrowing, get that into your thick skull.
I am not lynchable unless you're gamethrowing, get that into your thick skull.
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Lunatic is also towntelling but he contradicted his reasoning when analysing coal's behavior which idk if is a scumtell or just poor reading tell
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@ILikePie5
I'm not acting like scum at all but you thinking that a d loathing a mass claim is a towntell on your part as you always loathe that as town.
You, aside from MC, are actually my main townread at this point.
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@coal
I said extremely. Your posts now are nothing more than junk/fluff
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@ILikePie5
That is idiotic. We should be forcing mass claiming based on scum read order. We need to spot the theme-division and bully the mafia. We have currently got no priority over them.
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I think the team is Coal, Whiteflame and Oromagi. I am not sure about Oromagi either way at this point.
I think Coal played with a gameplan of starting a hard-bus rivalry that he loosens while interacting 0% with the other scum member and even defends whiteflame for being AFK later on.
The one issue with this team is Oromagi has done something he does as town usually which I won't say, as well as the fact that he didn't leap on yhe Earth lynch, even now, despite having every reason to justify doing so.
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@ILikePie5
Because at oresent the only revealed roles and characters benefit mafia.
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@ILikePie5
Yes I've said that several times after the cop cc and miller claim happened.
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@coal
You can laugh for now, eventually they will listen to my reads once I'm dead and cleared. You are scum this game in all ways, screaming it from the rooftops, the town is weak and passive for now so you're getting away with your fluffposting.
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@ILikePie5
So you wanna put pressure on Coal to get him to claim? How would that help this situation?
Pressure and information would suddenly begin to benefit town, not Mafia. Even if Coal is town, we keep pushing in a massive chain reaction eventually someone's fake claim will be blatantly full of shit in a series with so few major characters (as I said I've researched now).
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@FourTrouble
I answered it very clearly. If your brain can't process it, you don't understand logic.
Earth being scum or town has no help to us once we eliminat him, we're in the dark and mafia aren't.
I stated very clearly that theme and character are the major factors involved in my conclusion and need to search for more claims. Jellal being sided with Erza makes a lot of sense and Erza being sided with Doranbolt with a similar role alsoales sense. Doranbolt and Erza are both antiheroes, based on what I've learnt.
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And I am aware how many typos I just made. I am typing rapidly on Android and it isn't too easy with certain combos
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@FourTrouble
'Nonsense' doesn't mwan anything. Yoyr brain's i competence at digesting the information I post isn't my ossue if others understand it. If everyone is incomeptent at comprehending what I post, it is then an issue of me being a class above them at this game and logic which is indeed a mistmatch issue and I should have dumbed it down.
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@FourTrouble
Both Coal and Whiteflame have been far too calm during the cop CC and far too ready to lynch the only miller claim in the cast.
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@FourTrouble
Fick with me once more and I let you lynch me, which will hurt you and me both dearly. You've assumed some alpha position of authority from the start of the game to now. I'm the towbier, higher priority cop, stop suggesting bullcrap.
The primary reason I buy this all is that unless you're a Mafia that can day-stalk you guessing miller is low odds and if Earth is scum, the characters don't add up. I've researched about the characters and erza would always be sided with Jellala d both Erza and Doranbolt are antiheroes with very similar end-side-alignment despite not being directly aligned.
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@ILikePie5
You’re assuming he is the Miller. Even if he is, I’d rather get rid of the Miller now so we don’t come in a MYLO or LYLO situation where we have a guilty and a Miller.
We'd have far more information if you'd put pressure on Coal here.
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To stop scrolling back, I will say it again
VTL Coal
I am happy to lynch Whiteflame too.
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@Vader
Earth [4/6] Whiteflame, coal, iLikePie5, LunaticFourTrouble [1/6] MisterChrisPlease let me know if I made a mistake
Yeah, I am voting Coal
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If Earth is town MC is town. They wouldn't give Mafia additional L-amount with miller and two cops in ga.e.
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I prefer NL to lynching Earth, that's how seriously I read this situation.
We can't know Earth is scum without forcing others to out.
We can't know Earth is scum without forcing others to out.
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If it's 3:7 then I'm even more open to WF and Coal being 2 of the three.
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By the way the team could actually be Coal and Whiteflame, I know earlier I said they didn't behave like experienced partners do because of total lack of interaction but what if that's planned out? What if Coal talking whiteflame into lynching me was a staged thing so one would take the flack and the other seem squeaky clean? If we run process of elimination and incorporate my reads, Coal and Whiteflame are no longer ruled out as a team despite having extremely minimal interaction (which is what noob scum do, not experienced scum so I townread one of them by default). I think that could be the case but out of the two, Coal is scummier regardless.
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@Lunatic
While I respect that what you are doing right now is scumhunting (directed at me), it's also towntelling (on your part).
You think I need to pick, I pay attention to, and end up doing, both at once. You do too, not necessarily the attention part.
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You going to apply this logic anytime someone scum slips for the rest of the game?
Where has Earth scumslipped?
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@Lunatic
Of course I want to give him a free pass for it if he's town? Shit town should be hardcarried by brilliant town, not punished in a suicidal manner.
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@Lunatic
Basically if you are town and you know you are town there is nothing to hide. Espicially with a cop claim. Not saying any of this to indicate I think you are scum, just pointing out that it is redudant as town to try to explain away buddying.
I am the cop claim. I am indirectly CC'd at this point and no cop will confirm me. Even if they did, why would I want to scumtell for a cop to waste an investigation on me if I wasn't cop (I am, I'm working with your hypothetical to how a town vanilla or doc or something thinks).
I always observe how my actions will be perceived in mafia, not saying I'm innately talented at it, it takes a lot of refinement but to not pay attention at all because 'hurrr durr I'm town if you lynch me I will flip town and if you investigate me I will appear town so I can be as scummy as I want' is a caveman mentality that fucks towns over.
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