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@BearMan
Yes, it is whoever has the best hand that gets the NK.
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@Vader
@Discipulus_Didicit
@WaterPhoenix
@BearMan
Something interesting for you to discuss (though slightly inappropriate):

The Hyūga Clan engaged in regular incest between cousins (if not siblings at some point) to keep their bloodline pure yet no gene-damage was seen either mentally or physically across the generations (in fact they seemed to be getting faster and more agile with their use of the Byakugan eyes).

How is this feasible?
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Sasuke's version of badass is more emo-like and offensively strong. Sakura's version of badass is more energetic and defensively strong.
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@Crocodile
That is your result from watching Supa which was you visiting Supa.
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@BearMan
Get your flush draw and prove what a great doctor you are.
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@BearMan
Then lynch Supadudz
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Everyone bet today.

Everyone bet tomorrow if there is one.

Supa NK Crocodile if you are town and Bearman flips town.
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btw if Supa is Mafia and NK's don't worry about your hands, bet no matter what and hope you get best hand and then NK him.
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@Vader
if you are mafia pls dont nk have some guts and face me off properly.
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@BearMan
what are your cards this day phase?
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@Crocodile
Tell us about your visit to Supa
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Tbh I thank mafia for not NKing me when they could. I finally got to shine in this game.
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Actually I don't even care anymore if everyone except supa and I will be lazy and/or inactive.
VTL Bearman

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Professor Who Accurately Predicted 25 out of 27 Elections Predicts a Trump 2020 Win
Words cannot express how utterly shit and corrupt of a president and human being that Trump is. This is the only presidency ever that could make Bush Jr. look smart and respectable.
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Professor Who Accurately Predicted 25 out of 27 Elections Predicts a Trump 2020 Win

This was made in April, 2016. The fact that he has proven them right and justified the shit they're saying by everything he's done since then is most hilarious in a sad way.
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The best possible society should not have any defined religion or politics
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@Intelligence_06
The best possible society 100% should have defined politics that acts in favour of morality.
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@Intelligence_06
oh, please, no insults for I will report to the mods.
This is a threat to mod action.
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Teleported to the past?
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@WaterPhoenix
Why won't you reply to my post?
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When I don't debate for a while, I get a feeling in my soul
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@zedvictor4
No, that data isn't the conscious experience that involves using said data.
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@Vader
To be honest I don't entirely know what's best here as everything has almost equal risk involved in a true sense of pros vs cons.
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@Vader
The only way you win as mafia in this scenario is if we lynch Bearman, you get an ability to NK for best hand and on top of that have the double vote next day phase and then best hand that night (assuming only 1 mafia is left and that it's you).

So, I am not entirely happy with a Bearman lynch here, I'd rather VTNL and let you use your best-hand NK power on Bearman.
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@Vader
We know that Mafia is capable of getting double-vote and I think it's from fullhouse, not 4 of a kind. I think Oromagi lied about his hand because if he had fullhouse it meant he had to admit to vig-killing someone. I think Mafia gets double-kill capacity with four of a kind.

Alternatively, they have somewhat mirrored abilities to Town but instead of tracking, they get roleblocking.
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@Vader
If we mislynch and then mafia kill, it’s 2v1.
No man, your hand allows you to easily grab fullhouse and we know from the day 1 fiasco that Mafia are able to get double kill capacity when they hit hardcore hands. Obviously you have 2 shots at 4 of a kind too but that's kind of unrealistic to predict.
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@Vader
 You did not kill Pie and I know I didn’t kill him
Croc NK'd Pie. NKing Pie with the claimed best hand is not a scumtell.
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@Vader
My opinion is that we lynch Bear, and then NK someone

You don't think the game ends when we lynch bear?

By the way, the bold claim was that you admitted you had 2 pair and potential for fullhouse and four of a kind.
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@Vader
We could VTNL and you NK bearman.
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@Vader
Bold honesty, lol. We may have to lynch you to stop mafia potentially getting the NK but I do think it's Bearman at this point.
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@Vader
What's your hand on this day phase? 

It is important that both you and Bearman claim this before we lynch.

It's also important that Croc talks at all, simply because Croc has to confirm that I was valid in my tracking result and also reveal the result of his investigation.
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I believe that Bearman is scum and went inactive as I had setup a scheme that left him no way to fake himself to be towny.

What made it worse for him was that I come out claiming Croc has (by logical extension of the visits) used his watcher role on Supa, who Bearman was supposed to have been tracking in the scenario where Bearman, Supa and myself all three were trackers.

This dilemma made him need to claim he was inactive no matter what (even if he was not busy he had to feign inactivity to even have a remote explanation of the lack of visit). He is probably scum, by logic. If he isn't, it's almost definitely Supadudz and I support us all outing hands first.

I will explain after hands are outed how the hands themselves help us determine who to lynch.

Supadudz and Bearman must out their hands first, since all other 3 have towncred via role interactions.
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@Vader
Are you willing to lynch Bearman today?
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@Bullish
@ILikePie5
@Speedrace
@PressF4Respect
@BearMan
For any who care, Dan Negreanu does not attribute his success to his ability to read people, this is a poker-community attribution that he vehemently denies. Negreanu attributes his success to a natural ability at mathematics, hardwork/practise and yes, a natural edge in the ability to quickly analyse what 'type of person' he's dealing with but he constantly asserts this to only be 'part of the poker player's arsenal' never the central tenet. Negreanu was one of the first of the old-school players to admit that the 'edge' one has due to the ability to read people has reduced significantly over time, it is a lot more math-oriented and simply a lot of trial and error 'grittting out losses' to understand how people perceive betting. Bluffing is completely necessary now, whereas in older times bluffing was more optional and poker was a lot more about your ability to tell what someone had in their hand. Now, people are so adept at deceiving you and raising against your bluffs, based on leaks in your betting patterns that you aren't always aware of. It's not longer just a game of instinct, it's a game of analysis to brutal degrees.

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@Crocodile
hello?
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@BearMan
No, he claimed the best hand and used the NK optimally.
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Croc and Supa need to post first, then we decide what to do.
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If Press got godfather role on the night where he was innod (which is possible as he claimed his hand after others did except for Pie) then I am, again, willing to risk it all on that. This is why I want an all-hands-outed scenario again, unless Mafia get best hand BOTH NIGHTS then town is pretty much guaranteed to narrow down mafia.

Unless you believe I both faked a hand so well that I could get Scout role to fake being tracker such that I'd know Croc's second visit was Supa, I should be confirmed town at this point as my hand was the first outed as well.
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plus Croc NK'd Oromagi and I feel that he wouldn't confirm an inno on top of doing that unnecessarily if he were mafia.
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Town
Press, Croc and RM

Scumpool
Supa or Bearman

At this point, I am extremely sure of this.

While Crocodile didn't self-visit to confirm himself as watcher, if Supa doesn't claim to be roleblocked then I am simply willing to risk the entire game on this townread.
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I also believe that this is merely an extremely convenient spurt of inactivity for Bearman considering that he was around at the end of the DP3 if I am not mistaken.
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Actually, I take that back, I am still inclined to lynch Supadudz based on me reading his and Oromagi's interactions day 1 as a bus and also because Bearman claimed a hand that at the time would have meant he knew he'd have to NK and be blamed for it as well as have a guaranteed PR role to qualify as.

For me, I still see it as Pie or supadudz in the original scenario and my townread on Bearman has merely reduced by not disappeared.

I want us to out hands again today, though, however I do understand caution towards that path of action given how it can end up for us in the final 3 if things go wrong and Mafia has double-vote.
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inclined*
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@BearMan
Depending what Supa and Croc say their results were, I am incline to lynch you.
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@BearMan
You have potentially thrown the game. If there were less of us, we would have lost due to this if you are town as you were required to qualify Supa's visit of me.
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@Intelligence_06
No, I refer to when you pretend to be a new user and then delete your own account to create one where you admit who you are the next minute.

(No, I am referring to withdrawal symptoms when I literally don't debate anyone at all for a while even IRL and elsewhere, it's like a deep desire in me to discuss thoughts on a deep level and explore conflicting ideas).
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@PressF4Respect
Is that a rhetorical question, do you think I will claim anything other tham tracker?
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Everyone tell your night reports.
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Fully willing to talk you out of blindly following this stupid 1 for 1 thing.
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Croc visited Pie and Supa
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When I don't debate for a while, I get a feeling in my soul
Like when a bladder is full.
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@ILikePie5
Defined as someone who is either an absolute moron or an absolutely masterful actor who appears to be one.
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