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@Discipulus_Didicit
Until you are as good as I am and at times able to defeat 7 paragraphs with 4-5 sentences, you won't understand how to be vs competence and still attract votes.
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@Nemiroff
Just want to say I respect you a lot for asking this. It's so accurate they have literally no comeback.
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@RoderickSpode
You do understand that India and Sri Lanka were colonies of Britain (Sri Lanka previously was one of both Portugal and The Netherlands).
India back then included what is now Pakistan and India. So, when you say that Christianity appeared in Asia and wasn't a result of Colonialism, observe where in Asia it appeared and study the history. Mother Teresa didn't magically bring Christianity to India, it was already there from before as the British Colonists had begun to build churches and were about to enforce Christianity as the national religion before needing to pull out due to depleted resoruces post-WWII, which Gandhi's activities even more pressured them to leave for.
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@WaterPhoenix
It's contributing to the 'good' of advertising companies and Google. NSA also uses that advertising profile to help form psychological profiles of you.
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@Crocodile
Now, this site is biased (it most likely gets sponsored by the ones it ranks top 3, this is a major issue with VPN rankers in general) but this is so accurate that biased or not, it tells you the bare truth. You literally couldn't have a worse VPN. It doesn't encrypt your data. What I am telling you is that your ISP literally sees you send the data to the proxy server of Opera's choosing and sees the data come back to you. On top of that, Opera is not just being a browser, they are now able to log everything you did while using their browser because you're letting them function as your proxy ISP.
It is actually an increased risk, not privacy-enhancing benefit, to use the 'Opera VPN' while browsing. They literally admit that they log everything you do (and I mean everything, you saving it to your history means nothing).
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@Vader
Ani is seriously confirmed town, if you are Ani do not 'soft cc' it is never going to be believed later. You are the only player other than me (well Bearman and Speedrace indirectly agreed with me) that has admitted that characters in the show are linked to their in-game alignment.
Crocodile can't be scum if he's Ani, there is no way that makes sense given what I have read up on the characters (yes I admit to reading up on them in this past day, I already knew the gist of the show before this even).
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@Speedrace
Can someone explain why everyone thinks I'm in kahoots with User?
I do not think this at all, not even slightly.
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@Vader
That’s a huge claim to make. That’s obviously a power role without a doubt? Why would you claim that. A i is one of the most prevalent characters in the story and has a huge impact.
See, you feel exactly the same as I did (actually you even repeated what I said except you made it explicit it's a power role that was what I wanted to avoid explicitly saying). I read this too and was shocked he outed that so suddenly.
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@Vader
they are in a game where the miller is a character who was very similar to miller and where the very paraphrased PM indeed highlights that. I also know from my own role PM that my character's role and tendencies in the series are linked to his role (I have had to out that I'm a male character as I was pressured to reveal something about the character).
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@PressF4Respect
They don't. Read what I said after clarifying that I don't townread speedrace. I am reading him as town based on my scumread on Oromagi and situations (and wanted to make that clear, in the sense that I am not townreading Speedrace).
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@oromagi
seems quite agitated
You are trying to lead a lynch on me and throw shade on me regardless of a lynch. It is so successful that Crocodile is trying to force a claim of out me. You would be agitated too in my shoes this is 0% a scumtell, I am town and don't want to be lynched.
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@oromagi
Not a lot of reasoning from RM here
>Literally have posted pure reasoning in the entire past 2 pages. Out of all 'reasoning' given, I have been the majority in this entire game.
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@WaterPhoenix
Oh, I genuinely forgot that but it makes sense that it was in my memory. I consciously didn't remember reading that.
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@Greyparrot
Let's play this out.
Your theory is that a group of corrupt elitists banded together with a multi-billion-dollar budget (towards a trillion) and funded multiple news outlets, social media platforms etc to campaign against Trump and convince the average American to see 'orange man is bad' yet they all failed because there was 0% dishonesty or conspiracy on the other side and that somehow magically thwarted their scheme.
On the other hand, my conspiracy theory is that the one who won the election had several proven fake Twitter and Facebook sock puppet accounts blast bullshit 'agreement' and 'support' with his policies having relatable profile images, profiles etc. and that this is how he thwarted the other side (along with Fox News and Info Wars helping truly fuel the anger and ignorance of people, telling them not to trust other sources of information if they're against Trump, not even to consider them).
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@Greyparrot
He pays others and is also paid by others. Those he pays do as their told and those who pay him get what they want out of him. Simple idea, can be said about any politician but Trump does it shamelessly, he'd say it's his 'art of the deal'.
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Bearman has been echoing me in 2 ways, firstly when I VTNL and secondly when I said characters are linked to their roles. This could be town agreeing with town of course but it's plausible he's been told to appear to buddy me hard in order to throw others' reads off in his interactions. He did list me as a townread originally so it makes sense if he's town too.
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Also Supa's overreaction to Oromagi voting him and way they've been talking since then could be 'overdramatic rivalry' staged to separate them.
The team can be Oromagi, Bearman and Supadudz. Why 3? Cast size and proportions, no it's not a scumtell to predict that.
This also makes sense as it explains why Oromagi genuinely was ready to lynch any inactive at all and explicitly said so once Supadudz was no longer among them.
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I do not 'townread' Speedrace, I scumread Oromagi and am basing my reads off of how he reacted to me pushing on Speedrace.
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I believe speedrace is town because here is what I think happened, Oromagi is scum and knows Speedrace is town and sees a bandwagon building. He has the perfect opportunity to frame me and lead a lynch on me the next day if he challenges me on it and lets it naturally happen anyway (so speedrace is lynched, flips town and he's the 'hero' who fought against me on it on Day 1 letting him have town cred Day 2). If you look at his reasoning it's not even rational, he's completely blinkered and almost salivating at twisting me realising that characters are linked to their alignment in show as being a scumtell(which I thought was obvious as fuck and what is done in every single theme, as well as knowing fro Press outing combined with my own role PM is the case in this game).
If he is town, I don't know wtf this jump on me is for AT ALL. I makes no sense at all how hard I'm being scumread for noticing a blatant link between Press's character, his role, my own character and their role and the fact that Crocodile proudly outs as Ani and how towny she is based on her description.
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@oromagi
I am not mistaken at all unless Press is lying and got away with it. If Press isn't lying, both his char being completely and utterly linked to show-role and my own being the same from my PM combines to produce the undeniable correlation between character alignment in-show and alignment in-game.
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@Crocodile
I'd be willing to claim if you force 2 others to do it at a set time that we all claim our character. If we are going towards massclaiming, I want it to be fair and enable at least one slip.
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@WaterPhoenix
No it's not at all. Press is either lying or there is 100% certainty that characters are linked to their roles by their show persona. I combine this with my own description and character to know it. There's no jump.
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@Crocodile
I'm male, what exactly do you want me to go into details of? I don't see why I should reveal more. It will help mafia far more than town to know who I am vs am not.
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@Greyparrot
All privatised media outlets need profit to keep going, this conversation was about why you are suggesting that Trump is in any shape or form doing less of that to do more of Twitter shitposting, when he blatantly is not sacrificing one for the other.
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@PressF4Respect
What are your thoughts on Oromagi and me? Is he right to scumread me or what? I don't understand half of what he is saying is even scummy or where I somehow am misleading town, I am curious how it looks in your eyes as you are the only confirmed town according to others (to me both you and Croc are, with me as confirmed to myself and WP+User as townreads).
I am beginning to seriously suspect Oromagi and I don't comprehend why he'd want so badly to suggest that characters aren't linked to their roles unless he wants to make life easier for him and his partners to claim evil characters and be un-cc'd along that line of clash.
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@WaterPhoenix
I explained them in my past posts on this page and the previous one, I am not going to repeat them, especiallly as he's just arrived to answer the question I said he had to answer for me to finetune my reads on him.
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@Speedrace
Unvote Speedrace,
please catch up fast and answer things asked to you and spoken about you.
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@WaterPhoenix
Yes I don't think that, I know it. Let me tell you how I know it and don't think it:
Press's character and the way it is defined as a Miller shows that Pie is deeply linking characters' role and acts in the show with their role and alignment in the game. I read my own character, description and role, correlated it with parallels to Press being both Miller and having that characters (as well as the paraphrasing he did of his role PM) and concluded without any doubt in my mind that the split is based on the characters' acts and alignment in the show itself.
It was that simple and fast for me, I didn't realise it was a mystery.
You are unblocked.
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@WaterPhoenix
we aren't doing it based on policy (I am not) his inactivity is only one part of why it's being done. A major town character claim has happened, this means we are wasting our day if we nolynch as all that will happen is that a confirmed townie dies at night, which helped town extremely minimalistically but gives mafia time to use any special roles they have or even to mislead town with results (because since there's a miller and given the show's theme, it's very likely that investigative results are not so accurate).
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@oromagi
Sorry I said 'Press split them by gender' I meant Pie.
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@oromagi
Dude wtf are you talking about? Literally what are you saying? How can Ani be scum, explain it. Why would Croc knowingly claim such a main character if she is scumsided? There's be no motive at all to claim her so early unless it was to confirm himself as town.
I don't know wtf you are saying, genuinely. I did not scumtell by saying that he is confirmed town, you are scumtelling by trying to cast doubt on a blatant fact by saying some complete nonsense like Pie is sexist or some shit in how he split the characters. I know from my own character description as well as what Press revealed about his own miller description, that the characters are being assigned alignment and roles based on their general description in the show. This I know purely from my own combined with Press, there is no fucking scumtell or secret knowledge required to know how the split is done. Why would Press split them by gender?
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@Greyparrot
'he' doesn't he pays those who do as well as answers to those who do if he isn't paying them.
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@Greyparrot
Trump does that too, he has an entire team dedicated to it and their primary news outlet is Fox News.
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Let me be crystal clear, it's not because he's pushing on me, it's because of why and how.
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I actually scumread Oromagi for this bullshit push on me over absolutely nothing, he has tried to make everything I say seem scummy for no reason at all. This scumread is not clear to me because I also think he is the type of person who will be abrasive as town and force reactions out of people for the sake of it, I can't tell if it's truly a scumtell or just weird town angling but I change my nullread, he leans scum for me.
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@oromagi
I meant Press outing, not Pie.
I'm skeptical of this analysis. MILLER means there is a likely COP. MILLER is no threat. If I was scum I'd be trying to kill the COP but I might say that Mafia will likely target MILLER as a ploy to put investigative roles on the wrong track.
Or to encourage them to do so, hoping they listen to my suggestion and waste their nightkill.
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@oromagi
LOL! How can Ani be scum? Search her Wiki description and explain to me how she can be scumsided.
I don't know if you are trolling or you just think too literally but there's so much nuance that there are indeed characters that are 100% town or scum and there's no way Pie would make Ani scumsided.
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@Dr.Franklin
The new landscape? Trump is what Biden is adapting to, Trump himself didn't adapt he merely decided to start a bullshit trend. There is literally no other nation on Earth where the lead politicians shit-post this much, not even close.
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@Dr.Franklin
If you agree, why do you support Trump?
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@BearMan
The fact that Crocodile outed with a character that is guaranteed to be town on top of Pie outing means that we, as a town, gain very little from tonight as there is 90%-100% certainty that Mafia is simply going to target the confirmed townies and thus both the death give us no significant information and on top of that since miller is a role, reports from investigative roles are likely to involve incorrect vindication (this is also a theme of the series) thus, we actually gain less overall by no-lynching than risking it. Even the pressure of the lynch and seeing people react to it is part of the information-gathering process that benefits town far more than mafia.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
don't know or care tbh, I love my music and have a great time listening to it whether or not you share what you listen to with me. If you want to, then do it. Also, I take back suggesting the websites, if we want to stay private and anonymous it's best to avoid it as it integrated with spotify accounts in a way that's very difficult to stay private on unless your spotify account itself is very anonymous-like.
I'm willing to do this watch2gether thing.
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I don't know how or why politics has become a social media shitshooting contest but even at that level of immaturity, Biden still has more substance to his posts than Trump. So, to me it's very simple, both candidates are becoming immature and #voteme #otherguyiscorrupt #yoloswag though Biden seems to do this in a more in-depth and sophisticated manner with actual reasoning behind his social media jabs. Trump just shitposts and loves doing it, his post length alone should make that obvious.
Thus, I do not understand either side making this about 'the other side is a tantrum thrower' this is about more than that, you need to analyse the regime they stand for and how they're going about things. Trump is corrupt to the core and has been completely pro-establishment his entire time as President, despite his promise to be a rebellious lover of the working American. You can think what you want, it's just a fact. He's handled Covid so terribly that the US is the only fully developed country that is having an upswing of cases, all other highly developed countries that US would call its equal or inferior, are on downswing pretty much.
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@PressF4Respect
No he won't, Water has been one of the most active and 'genuine substance to his activity' players in my eyes.
Speedrace also scumtold purely because the kind of research behind the scenes for him to already suggest a character off the bat for your role-claim implies that he'd been researching in order to fake-claim and while town can put that kind of effort in, it's more likely for a scum-sided individual to do.
I was waiting for him to explain why he suggested the character to you (I asked this very early on in the game) as his answer would help me read him. I still don't fully scumread it, since town can put that kind of research in and maybe he's a diehard fan of 13RW but I do include it into my decision to lynch. On top of that, the person voting him is one of my townreads.
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@simplybeourselves
Please explain your reads and thoughts of how we should act (ignoring the Press and miller fiasco which was based on your misunderstanding)
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@Vader
@oromagi
@WaterPhoenix
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@BearMan
This is a dire situation, thoughts?
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