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The Diehard Casuals: Skrillex & Damian "Jr. Gong" Marley - Make It Bun Dem
This is not, even slightly, the same thing as the inbetweener clique which I shall later elaborate on. This is the duck-debate makers, the forum-only chillers. They thrive the less hostile, less serious the crowd and site are. They are not inbetweeners because they don't 'not care too much' they actually passionately seek to make the site less serious as a whole. In DDO-times the epitome of such a user was esocialbookworm, vaarka as well as Kitty and in DarC it has proven to be a band of totally new users but amongst the OGs, Castin is definitely spearheading this group. They are a force of peace and actively speak up and influence people to stop fighting as well as pushing out a consistent vibe of positivity and calm in the forums. Inbetweeners are capable of thriving regardless of the circumstance, it is actually most likely that an inbetweener would be the one to clash with the casual so it is not unimportant to comprehend the difference.
Rap Battlers: Locksmith - Gimme a Sec - SINCE THIS IS FORUMS I WARN THE N-WORD COMES A COUPLE OF TIMES IN THIS SONG
The only clique who found a way to bypass CoC and not cry about them at the same time. Don't know how, don't know why but rap battles have seemingly always been a venting session for people (in a way so are the religious forums until outsiders come in or more sensitive, unadjusted members including me set foot in it and get our feelings hurt).
Something to note is that it began as a CoC-enslaved format of debating back on DDO but was, much like my return and this site's birth, one of the things that blossomed and truly took shape the more that Juggle's neglect and Max's laziness in modding increased. It was a silver lining for sure even though a toxic one (that pedo rap battler was... Quite a piece of work).
This is not to say, at all, that rap battles are used as a way to bully others, very often both participants giggle about it after or whatever else but it's also a lie to say we don't take it serious and at times make real digs. Sometimes I invented back on DDO 5 years ago on an alt names BornToDebate was a concept called reverse rap battling which went down well here in the eyes of Castin and in the eyes of my opponent, SupaDudz.
This is a combination of narcissism combined with, in my opinion, extreme humility since we're conducting one of the riskiest ways to improve our rating on the site as well as balancing breaking our enemy apart and scaring them away to being sportsmanlike enough to hopefully vs them later at it again and again.
It's almost our own sacred cult or something, we operate on a different wavelength and never report one another for what we say in it. It's a sacred sport for those involved in it. Mikal and BoT were OGs of this clique on DDO as was Danielle at times. Now I am probably the long-term alpha in it and supadudz may well grow to be an OG of his own making at it too if he improves and sticks at it. Type1 idk... Depends if he stays or not, he's a fantastic rhymer and flow-analyst.
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We originate from DDO, there's no question of that but both due to the religion-forum having equal say from the get-go to a series of events unfolding that led to a different ecology and thus social food-chain here, not only is RM no longer easy prey as he used to be but many who used to be powerful are now quite unlike what they were. The cliques are similar, sure, but to base this solely on DDO propagated cliques and to stop only at 'DDO-main' and 'religion' doesn't quite delve into it as well as the fact that you haven't taken into account that the types of user making duck-debates are the would-be-ones of a now extinct clique, the polls/opinions clique.
Without further ado, and with a hint of bias of course, I shall process to explore the cliques of DarC (DarC is correct, thank you for knowing that) that have evolved from the site's origin until now:
ALL VIDEOS AND SONGS HAVE BEEN CAREFULLY SELECTED TO MATCH THE CLIQUE IN AN UNIRONIC MANNER. When it displays emotions or seemingly hyperbole expression, it is not to mock but to express how they feel and are experiencing what is going on.
The Anti-Mod Forum Blasters: Sia - Bird Set Free
This clique is not inherently a clique (even to itself), it's a very wolf-like formation whereby the alpha is merely the one who's done the most damage and been the biggest in the direction the rest of the pack cling to in their own way. Drafterman has screamed a quietened agony perhaps felt for years on DDO but amazingly which, in contradiction, is screaming in support of Max's moderation style. It is unclear what exactly they stand for and there's little doubt in my mind that they'd pile on each other like a pack of (analogy-accurate) feral dogs if we were to let their band run things as the unfettered capacity to bully and taunt one another verbally would lead to brutal outcomes when one feels too hurt because not only are we not all built equally thick-skinned, but we're not all as difficult to abuse.
The Tryhard Debaters: Fall Out Boy - Centuries - weak epilepsy-warning HAS FREQUENT BLACK-FLASH TRANSITION not strobe or bright-flash type transitioning.
While strangely split in different ways, such as me being a highly efficient noobsniper, others wanting to create an entire elite-league on its own to stop the likes of me getting 'full respect' via a different rating system among them, we all have a lowkey unity in that we are here to debate and want some thrill and glory for being better, as good, or perhaps motivation to improve if we realise we truly are worse than the rest. We are here as a sport, to us it's less about the forums and worrying about blending in as such (although all mods are included in this clique as for now), this is the 'head down, work done' clique.
We want our name on that fucking wall, we want to be the coach other coaches recommend. We grind that elo each on our own way, some still failing as DarC is new but all fervently and never ever giving up their chance to go down as a legendary debater.
The Religious and Antitheist... Clique? Madchild - Black and White
This isn't as simple as the religious-forums populace because not only are there those that frequent it who are not in this clique but, less intuitively it's also addressing those that spread out their loyalties but nearly solely use the forums for the purpose of religious debate. Sometimes they stretch out into very right-wing politics if they're religious or into epistemology if the other end of the spectrum but this is very much about defeating the other group and it's unclear whether the joy is from the process of typing the angry rants or of reading the reactions to said posts and threads. They love to talk and to be talked to in a mean, repetitive manner it's almost as if they thrive more the less hospitable their forum(s) become. This clique spans from politics through to philosophy and society as well as the main one but undeniably their home is the Religion Forums.
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@David
Based on me and others, there is huge demand for a DARK version of the current site. As in the area that's white/cream making it darker.
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I 100% prefer our theme to the first link. The PM system is less obviously better or worse to me in what you show.
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@ethang5
Ah yes, I forget the story sometimes. So we can't colonise it because there's nothing solid in it? Shame.
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Assuming NASA's story is up to scratch with reality, I would argue that theoretically, Jupiter would be the best one to go for.
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@DebateArt.com
@Outplayz
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@ethang5
@Castin
@nmvarco
I agree that Castin should get most liked member.
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@nmvarco
TY for the nomination even though I'll never be allowed to get it due to social stigma against me.
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The more that you demand anonymity, the more you force the controlling group, be it Illuminati in the real world or Mike and bsh1 here, to hide thigns from you. The more you allow them to admit they spy, the better the world and this site become in terms of transparency and relaxation between the leaders and the led.
The reason Illuminati are so corrupt and conniving is we force them to be.
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@blamonkey
Everyone wants to be anonymous until the guy/girl harassing them is anonymous. Same with reports and same with anything in life.
If you want real anonymity, don't make an account for a website and don't participate in any community as a persona at all. You can hide behind IPs all you want, your persona itself is a way to catch you. You want to report? You want to spam them? Want to inaccurately report them? Then you'd want anonymity. Why else would you be concerned about anonymity?
Something I found (and believe me I've hung out with both folk in my online life) is that the crew on the side of privacy is usually filled with both extremes; highly naive/kind and highly paranoid/sinister. The crew that say 'meh, privacy isn't that needed' 'we only need to hide sometimes when it comes to oppressive governments etc' are usually very balanced individuals who likely have not necessarily got as high IQ as the former group but much higher EQ and long-term strategy to their plan.
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@Plisken
meaning?
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@Greyparrot
Firstly, lazy modding isn't good modding. Secondly, that's bullshit controlled opposition by Illuminati. The network won't last and all you post there will be used against you potentially.
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What Mike is intentionally leaving out is that that system, which is indeed on every website even the Reddit which drafterman champions so proudly, has zero anonymity to the reporter and so it should.
Stop pretending anonymous reporting is a good thing. Punish shit reporters, hold dear the reports of reputable ones.
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@EtrnlVw
Your brain is first stimulated by an outward object before you realise you have perceived it. Your brain first has produced a thought before you are aware you are having it. Want more? Want me to prove the, just stated, 2 things to be true?
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Without weak debaters to prey on, there is left only strong ones to kick you in the ribs as you lay on the floor eating their other foot's ankle. You're just envious that someone who is so efficient at taking on mediocre and weak debater is out-grinding you.
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@EtrnlVw
While there is a huge grey area in the study and almost entirely unexplored field of 'what makes us aware' and complete obscurity regarding how to separate us from personhood-facade Artificial Intelligence (AI), there is still far more proven likelihood that it is the physical brain that causes the experiences personhood and not the experience that results in the brain.
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@3RU7AL
How do I know you're not lying to the degree of certainty you suggest me to in said scenarioWhy would you believe that the concept of motive has anything at all to do with whether or not there is a ball in the box and whether or not it is red?
Because it's his word I'm taking.
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@Goldtop
You are here to mock me and make me feel subhuman for having a stance or outlook.
I am not going to give you the gift of wisdom. You don't deserve to know.
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@EtrnlVw
I get that you think the brain is the representation and not the means and that, in your eyes, neurons firing are merely physicalised soul-pulses but I'm sorry to say that it's more probable that it's the other way around as proven by neurological studies of people who had damage to the skull and such having severe alterations in personality.
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@Goldtop
There is a plethora of evidence supporting it, I was only asked to explain the edge in this thread.
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@David
She is using a rhyme scheme that hasn't/hadn't been invented yet, if you read her lines at a certain pace it's an extremely evolved flow.
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@David
Holy shit that chick is so eloquent, the rap battle one. WTF year is that from that shit predates me.
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@secularmerlin
@David
@blamonkey
@Alec
@ArgentTongue
10 days to vote, whiteflame has promised he'll vote. No need to vote out of obligation but please if this intrigues you do take a look.
If you're tagged you're a seemingly consistently unbiased voter who I dig. TY in advance pls make the rfd detailed.
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I am a momma's boy though, hence me not hating females.
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This speaks volumes about you as a human being.
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@Goldtop
Buddy keep at it, get yourself banned. I couldn't give a shit to be frank. You're a bully who targets the emotional. You're nothing to me Goldilocks.
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@Goldtop
Go ahead and speak to them. You find they're smirking as they imagine having many an interaction with me as you do. For I am not only intelligent as they but comprehend their needs and wants.
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@Goldtop
Dna and hormones ain't changed since fucking Serengeti days. Educate yourself on nature vs nurture and come back to me.
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@Goldtop
Lol. Does a singer hate the judge they gotta impressed? What exactly are you getting at?
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@Goldtop
I don't hate women as a whole at all.
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@David
leaderboard on homepage where banned members don't show up.
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Simple answer is yes buddy.
Complex answer is the self is made bad, the real self is a whole level deeper.
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@DebateArt.com
Submit to Google. We know you will want us to use Chrome.
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@Tyrone
Actually not everyone here is an adult, we have to set examples but that aside the idea is to contain it before it explodes.
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@nmvarco
what did you think of those 3 (yes I am asking specific feedback, not on all 3 as a whole)?
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@nmvarco
Based on what you like, let's introduce on the way I'd rarely introduce someone to rap, I will focus on pleasure to the ear and delivery and ignore flow or quality or lyricism and depth of content as well as other things.
Immerse yourself in your mumble-rap-no-more-welcome-to-real-rap journey:
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There is very much to flat earth theory that I haven't mentioned here. You are clearly fixated on the edge which is the least significant and/or mysterious part about it all.
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@YeshuaBought
Imma lay it straight, if one woman playing dirty to get someone convicted makes you vote for a different political party to spite her since she is against a member of the party you now will vote for, not only are you being stupid but you are punishing the other party and your country since you're voting such a shit-tier party into power because of the actions of a woman who herself isn't a fucking Democrat official of any kind meaning you're achieving nothing good at all by doing this.
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@nmvarco
That is not rap, it is the lowest form of hip-hop. Would you like me to show you what rap is?
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@secularmerlin
It's very difficult for me to accept as it's impossible to be true.
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@secularmerlin
You can win by guessing the right colour. You can't win by guessing no colour.
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@secularmerlin
Being correct about the ball's colour, in your specific scenario, is winning.
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@secularmerlin
You and everyone else in this thread except me adhere to a 'believe what I think is absolute first, and consider relative potentialities only if absolutely necessary' mentality'. You are actually debating trolls and fools who haven't yet realised they agree with you and think it's so obvious the ball is not any more likely to be red because a person says it is.
You keep playing around with your own kind to go 'ha so then why the hell would you believe in God, it's basically like the Easter Bunny you fools'.
Do you know how the best Mafia dons made it? Who the fuck ends up president or behind the winner? Who wins in life? Gamblers who had good strategy meet great opportunity. No matter how sociopathic the game or system is, you end up having genuine trust and brotherhood/sisterhood vibes. When your homie tells you that guy is plotting against you, you can keep saying 'where's your proof' and fear being wrong but you guarantee failure with that mentality just as much as if you believe the wrong thing. It's all a gamble, the game isn't rigged against you, fate hates all equally in the end. Play your dice, start to have some faith in your fellow beings. Guy tells you it's red, you tell me that it's pretty blatant it's genuine belief and not him lying, IDGAF why he thinks it since I can't ask it or find out, better roll with my homie and fail with him than pussy out altogether and go 'ha at least I didn't think it was red and end up wrong'.
Your mentality is just plain loser mentality and if you enjoy losing, that's fine by me.
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You are the one bullying and chasing after me. I don't come fighting you, you come here to pick apart my theory and what-not. Get over yourself.
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@secularmerlin
Shall I repeat the 5 senses quote or you gonna just admit we disagree on the importance of faith?
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