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@Greyparrot
Don't really care.
You are a dimwit with a blindfold on if you think you have to be entirely grassroots to be supported.
I supported Elizabeth Warren as she was one of the only candidates ever to get that far on raw grass roots, with almost all the right morals.
The world isn't a fairytale. This class you say I should oppose are simply more geared towards things that hurt the poor when the right wing candidates get power, proven time and time again.
Trump's got that class behind him too, you just don't seem to have a clue. McCain is establishment as fuck, research his father.
Remind me again, what do you support? Or do you just point to the billionaire boogeyman, no different to a (typical) socialist?
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I find this thread slightly ironic because I agree both on Neocons being dysfunctional+deserving of downfall and dislike John McCain but for very different reasons to Wylted.
I even was scolded by the then-relevant alt of Zarroette AKA Kaitlyn AKA whatever, for saying good riddance when McCain died rather than faking much respect for him.
He was a bloodthristy (warmonger) chameleon (not to republicans, to his family's agenda of war for the sake of war, much like the Bushes etc) but to hate him for wanting affordable healthcare is like hating DebateArt because of its obsession with orange.
Find a real reason to loathe someone.
Oh and the reason Neocons deserve their downfall is they're backwards fools, nothing is neo/new about them at all. They think stone age politics is the dream goal. Anarchocapitalism has been tried, that shit doesn't work well for a society.
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@WyIted
He absolutely deserved what happened to him in Vietnam
Unironically believing torture and kidnapping with constant fear of death being deserved for wanting affordable healthcare for the poor...
You're off the deep end, take some time away from politics and breathe.
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This is a stupid leftist talking point nobody believes because the premises are transparently stupid
Ad hom and gaslighting, wahey double wammy!
Millions believe what I just said, poor Donald has to swallow a real humble pill if he picks a woman or non-Caucasian this time!
Keep typing troll, you're the mad one with the tl;dr rants, not the one you think you're triggering with your blablabla about how Trump is a genius for considering a woman of part Samoan descent over a man of Indian descent.
You say he's a genius because she's bland and won't rock the boat while appearing to fit into a 'hardcore right wing rebel' narrative all at once. I agree, the general Republican support base are so stupid that complete contradiction makes her the perfect candidate for their ethos. Maybe one day they'll pick a woman that speaks her mind, silly old Republicans.
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@WyIted
Go become a Crack addict for the next 5 years and a bum. See if it is your relatives still in your corner or those friends that were so nice.
You assume I have the relatives I spoke about there. I didn't say that was my own situation or make this thread about me.
I also would never ever do that, I have spent too much of my life being a pathetic loser who never once touched crack and something like a bum to ever become that again actually doing crack.
I am levelling up my life, pretty much apex me soon, not rich yet though. You have to become truly strong, physically, mentally and financially before talking about how to go about life.
Your point is that someone who is crippled, whether physically, mentally/emotionally or financially is going to have to cave in to perpetual dependence on toxic familiar people, relatives or not. I agree, you're right. The aim should be to upgrade the fuck out of that crippling situation if you can.
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@WyIted
This is a terrible way to get your piece of shit relatives to pay for bail money. Here I the thing about shit relatives. They will still bail you out, be there when you are your lowest and give you an occasional organ when one of yours fails. Your friends, no matterhow good they are will disappear on you. Try it. Go become a Crack addict for the next 5 years and a bum. See if it is your relatives still in your corner or those friends that were so nice.Get your head out of your Ass RM. Your shittiest relatives are better than your best friends.
I am not really sure how that would be a piece of shit relative as such. Though, there can be a toxic one who'd 'bail you out' the aim should 100% be self-reliance and being the apex member of your future family that you form with your new spouse.
That's the difference between being a pathetic boy, incel or not, and an actual grown man. It's not only for men, it's the difference between being a helpless girl or a fierce woman.
If your best friend wouldn't bail you out, they aren't your best friend btw but that's not for me to talk on as I understand how hard it is to find real friends in this world.
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point 1 is a lot of nonsense, I don't think that's a solid rule at all, sometimes you want only 1 maximum other times many is fine, depends how far in you are and the situation of other pieces.
don't always capture towards center... depends on many things.
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To give up his racism or his misogyny, ohhhh the dilemma
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Loving toxic people who drag you down and ruin you but are related by blood is an irrational thing to do that will keepy out perpetually unhappy until you learn to let go.
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Dummies idiots normal
You sound so smart.
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@Best.Korea
You can juggle memories but at any time you're thinking of one, it may be a fusion of more though (this is how dreams and acid trips happen, they are based on fused memories).
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No, in fact the human brain is only capable of genuinely befriending and liking up to around 21ish people (this is the apex extravert amount) at any given time, you literally forget to unlike people as you make psychological room for new ones.
People have this delusion you can like a childhood friend you lost touch with or distant relative but actually you unliked or even unloved them until you got back in touch, unless you somehow triggered memories constantly.
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It seems these days it's okay to hatefully and brutally ridicule men, Caucasians, Christians, atheists or heterosexuals those that are 2 or 3 of those.
However, mocking others takes finesse and gaslighting to pretend you arents being spiteful and vicious.
Yet Sacha Baron Cohen the hypocritical scumbag of the modern era of comedy, got away with culturally appropriating and ridiculing Islamic cultures and real life people multiple times. His character Ali G is actually blackface but because he didn't paint his face brown/black and just acted Jamaican/British, he got away with it.
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These K Rino tracks push for the opposite but to someone who likes Trump could harden their support for Trump:
Warning, first track is antisemitic and transphobic.
He resents both, resents Republicans more.
He has more but the other stuff makes it more obvious he is very anti Republican.
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Hopsin votes Democrat to my knowledge but this rap's ethos criticises the left wing liberal type, both white and black:
This Hopsin track could turn a black person towards Trump, it was made during Obama's era though:
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Utter nonsense racist thread but the thread seems to be raps that would turn one anarchist or against the system via conspiracy theories.
No song will turn a whole race some way, unless it was Democrat politicians themselves being racist to black people.
In terms of anti Establishment raps, I know quite a few, assuming people rhyming things makes you assume them to be true.
Here are 2 examples.
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@Best.Korea
I am saying: let noobs debate noobs.
Why? The site is so dead they have barely any other noobs to vs and the owner has made it so that their first 3 debates are unranked regardless.
I think after almost 2 years, this site's user base is pretty much same.
That's not relevant to this. If you mean the 'debating area' that's a lie, if you mean the 'forums area' it's largely because forum area attracts addicts to it and pushes away newcomers who aren't that obsessed.
New people come, they almost never stick around.
That's been true for all games and arenas like this, this is just deader than most.
If you come here wanting trashy, easy debates, you are going to quit and cry like a bitch the first time you Vs an experienced debater anyway, let's be real.Possible, but I think new users should build debating will power by debating against new users. That way, whoever wins, new user will win and stick around for longer.
They won't, they'll actually develop wrong habits and flawed techniques that specifically work only vs bad-to-average opponents.
If you think its better to ruthlessly crush them, sure do so, but I dont see that as a working strategy to make new users stay.
I don't think it's ruthless. I think this reputation is the most reverse-truth reputation ever.
It's the pieces of shit who refuse to ever interact with noobs, crushing them or losing to them, chatting to them oranything with them, who make the dead site stay dead. Users who actively engage them are fun for them. I'd enjoy being crushed in my first debate, unfortunately I didn't get crushed in my first DDO debate, it actually disappointed me but I did very soon after and it lit a fire in me.
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I mean I can quit again as many others have if that's what you want.
6 months away showed me how dead this site is, the only contradiction being said clashes you oppose.
If you come here wanting trashy, easy debates, you are going to quit and cry like a bitch the first time you Vs an experienced debater anyway, let's be real.
Let the worthy prove themselves.
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@Amber
You made a thread about a war on children with sexuality as a primary vein of it, then you pretend people randomly brought those topics up.
Get help.
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Haters gonna hate.
But if those haters will actually abuse and/or severely bully you, you need to protect yourself or hide/retreat.
Don't give a shit what others think, care only what they will do. Change the do, protest the actions and outright oppressive ways they operate. Be tough enough to handle the ridicule and abuse.
Or quit and leave the place for a better one.
Do your thing, ignore the haters as best you can whether you're a weirdo on a debate site or a gay person in a homophobic shit hole.
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@Double_R
Whether it's an alcoholic, an obese person or a transgender person, if you support pushing them when they feel they're not in a position they want to consider your viewpoint, you support it. If not you don't, whether we add pedo or homosexual or heterosexual onto that or not.
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@Double_R
Also, context matters. When we're talking about gays/ trans people we're talking about people making choices for themselves.
No we aren't, unless you suggest they choose to be gay/trans, in which case you're backpedalling on the very basis of what you're saying in the first place.
The idea of someone engaging in a violation of others had nothing to do with the conversation, you injected that into it.
Nope, I didn't say a pedo or animal luster acting on it (nor did I rule that out), I said the very lust in itself. The mind that's attracted to that is no different in helplessness to the mind attracted to one's own gender or that believes it's in a wrong body. Your logic is to never impose on people a conversion they don't themselves innately want, so if gays or trans people want it then what?
So now your responding to my post attacking the idea you injected. It's not what I was saying.
No I am not, I am attacking your own idea from 2 different angles, meaning whether you defend it or backtrack you're snookered either way.
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@WyIted
neither of whom are true to the actual ideals the parties uphold.So pragmatists instead of ideologues.
Not sure if they are or aren't, what I am sure of is Biden is barely a Democrat and Trump has been a diehard Democrat endorsing and being a donor to Clinton even when she ran against Obama.
Within those pretending to support your cause are people voting in men in need of geriatric care on both sidesWhat's with the casual ageism this election cycle. There is nothing wrong with their ages. One has dementia and I guess the criticism of the other is that he is a blow hard. The blow hard would have been a blow hard 20 years ago as well. It has nothing to do with age.
Do you think of all the jobs an elderly person about to hit the death bed due to deterioration of their mind and body, that being leader of one of the biggest nations on Earth maybe isn't the best pick?
Niki Hailey could probably beat Biden as long as trump didn't sabotage her. Trump can't beat biden.No she can't. If she won I would not vote 3rd party. I would vote for Biden. I think many people are like me. She is an actual fascist . I know liberals like to throw that accusation around at every republican but finally when you actually get the one in a million repu lican who is actually fascist the demo want to witch sides and vote for her.She wanted to require ID for americans to go online. Ban social media platforms and she wants to increase military operations overseas. This bitch is evil and probably the only Republican that could get me to vote Biden.
Why are you replying as if I said this?
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@WyIted
I mean yeah. Certai ly the earth is not spinning around at a significantly different speed than years prior
This 'rotation' doesn't make anything, time or otherwise. Time is there even in a flat earth.
What I said is an illusion isn't that time goes slower, it's that you even feel time go faster. You don't feel time go slower or faster, tolerate waiting much better.
Angrier people generally won't as well as people who lack maturity.
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@TheUnderdog
A generic communist is a tyrant megalomaniac?
What are you saying a generic communist disagreed with?
Oromagi and myself are both not communists and both not generic ones either.
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@TheUnderdog
Talking about murdering people is different than talking about legalzing AR 15s.
Okay...? Is this a point against me?
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@TheUnderdog
The communist believes in censoring right wing speech. It's how it is different from the socialist.
Not true, many communists in the US support the freedom of capitals it's to speak.
Also, this is pure semantics. I am sure many anarchocommunists define it the other way around too.
I didn't ask you how it's possible for a communist regime to oppress speech, I asked why capitalist or hybrid tyranny is not equally supportive of it.
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@Best.Korea
It's important to make peace.
Bloodshed in Ukraine is far too much. Ukraine isn't in NATO, they were left to rot and just chucked weapons at, until all their remaining men die or are captured, having now spent 2 years away from family.
Trump is much wiser than Biden on the Ukraine war. Idk why people keep saying Ukraine should fight. Ukraine is just rotting away to drain Russia which is already hurt by embargos. Peace talks have to happen, let Ukrainians run to EU, encourage them to give up.
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I think either US party's true advocates should be repulsed and horrified.
Within those pretending to support your cause are people voting in men in need of geriatric care on both sides, twice now, neither of whom are true to the actual ideals the parties uphold.
Biden is barely a Democrat if you analyse his life and policies and right now can't walk off the right side of a stage or make coherent strings of 3 sentences.
Trump is a manwhore that has no idea what family values and sanctity of marriage even mean. He's no conservative at all and tried to upheave an election, he's anti people choosing their leader.
Both sides have enemies within bringing your worst candidates to the forefront.
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@TheUnderdog
If you set the precedent that “political speech that reults in 100 people dying is just as bad as 100 murders”, then that is communist (and I fail to see how it wouldn’t be).
How is that Communist as supposed to Capitalist or neither/both?
Speech that has 100 people or so get killed as a side effect of a policy (like advocating for legalized guns results in at least 100 children dying a year or so) should be treated much better than actually murdering 100 children.
Well if you are so skilled and dedicated to use your influence to lead a massacre, you are long term more dangerous than the particular arrested/killed lunatic(s) that carried the most recent one out.
Just something to wrap that pretty brain around before saying things that I barely (or overall don't at all) even talk about here as if you're fighting me.
The communist disagrees.
Which one?
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@TheUnderdog
I was asking why were Canadian Truckers getting treated worse than JEFFERY EPSTEIN!?
So what would Oromagi or me know about it?
We don't come here representing the American and Canadian combined law enforcement forces.
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We don't experience time slower as children, this is an illusion and a lie.
The mind is not a normal organ, it has elements that are like 'muscles' in it due to it being elastic and adaptable. Before smartphones and the Wifi Internet, our brains had regular training to get used to waiting for things and experiencing painful bouts of impatience, meaning by age 15 most of us had gained a lot of patience, this isn't the case anymore because instant gratification is everywhere and things also work faster in general. The times you still have to wait are like at an accident&emergency hospital, dentist that's delayed, being on-hold with an on-phone support servive or a job interview where the interviewer is delayed etc.
The reason when older we experience time slower is an illusion because what we have instead gained is the ability for the mind to wander and focus on things around us or daydream easier. Even though children have a lot of imagination and can daydream, they tend to fixate on the thing(s) they're waiting for too much which is a typical trait in a mind with low patience training.
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I am not even going to reread what you are responding to. I forgot what I even posted. I just know when I judge debates I will not punish for gish gallop unless the person doing it is called out by their opponent. However merely calling the out is not enough they need to explain to me why I should punish their opponent for it
So you want someone with 23 points they're rebuking, to waste characters comparing the standard amount of contentions in a debate to that one just to cry about it? I don't think they can spare much.
Gish Gallop is unpunishable if you follow tabula rasa, you can't punish someone for being a freak of nature in the amount of contentions and rebuttals they had. Instead, you can punish points being barely fleshed out or explained.
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@TheUnderdog
Hello.
I am anti Covid vaccine mandate, Pro let the suckers die or suffer long term without it. Society isn't always that psychopathic about it, unfortunately.
Cheers.
Regarding the issue at hand, are you asking me something here?
This topic seems to have nothing to do witha. COVID vaccine mandate.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
That's not what sex ed is for
that's my point, they're teaching you how to actually fuck each other safely rather than teaching you the actual safest outlet ever, because of irrational hierarchy of what's worse to teach.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
I told I won't talk more on it. I will rewrite what I wrote before, differently making my point clearer.
(sarcasm) Believe what you want, say noone needs help or guidance. You are top tier correct, that's totally the fact. (/sarcasm)
This is the reality; you can legally encourage your own child to have underage relations as long as they have the right protection on, with another underage peer before you can encourage them to masturbate to porn. That is the 100% legal fact in almost all progressive nations and makes no fucking sense at all. End of discussion.
Broken hearts -> drama -> distraction from schoolwork during the most psychologically fragile time of their life (adolescence are actually more or equally fragile to rejection and heartbreak as/than children psychologically, the fact you start university at 18 is hilariously stupid), it's not a joke. STIs? Being with a shit partner who disgusts them for life? Feeling stupid as they have never seen how to do it right? Seeing the wrong porn to inspire them to do it very wrong?
It's all a bunch of bullshit that could be dealt with if it wasn't illegal to advocate for them to see the right stuff and to stay well away from rushing into acting on it before they truly got a grasp of what their sexuality and kinks are. Idk who the hell suggested just to fuck everyone before you know what you want but that's not at all the best approach, it's obvious in all things other than sex.
You can't be bullied for what you privately browsed and got off to if you were taught and allowed the right ways to do that. You can and will be bullied if you do sexual shit and are bad at it esp if it's with a popular peer. It can completely wreck your ego.
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I'll just say this one more time for anyone of either political wing to understand that I think both sides are pretty hilarious/stupid.
You can legally hit second if not third base with people 2 years if not 3 (even 4), prior to when you legally can orgasm to pornography in most progressive countries, albeit with caveats in quite a few that the partner of the underage person is also underage or within a certain range and lacks authority.
The reasoning behind this is most parents are too scared shit (and rightfully so as they can then be said to advocate for 'crime') to dare introduce anything that may be a healthy outlet for the teens to get 'out of their system' urges that will burst in them in school constantly, no matter what. Since the parents can't guide which genres or what kind of porn or erotica to use to stimulate it, instead it's somehow considered healthier to actually get into emotional entanglement that now is so severe people just casually fuck and hookup from as young as 15, for real, yet are told that's okay if it's with peers as long as they aren't watching porn.
That's the state the law and ethics of progressive nations works. Meanwhile instead of slutshaming, now virginshaming amongst teens is a severe and real thing, it maybe always was for guys but I'm pretty sure the scale is worse than ever. I'm not a teen anymore to know or care.
I don't get why people rush into that shit, I don't care why. I care that it's seen as horrific and 'pedo' to even suggest that them orgasming to some porn or erotic stuff is a healthier outlet than actually going around acting things out on each other. How is the latter healthier? Maybe I missed something as even professional therapists are agreeing porn is bad but underage relationships and foreplay etc is super healthy.
I'm done talking on this now in this thread, I just can't fucking understand it. Idk how it is for females but for male teens there's literally no 'way out' you get that urge building up to bursting point without a release. We all know it unless we're asexual. That release can help you focus 3x better in school as it's not there itching to burst and even helps you get deeper, healthier sleep.
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@whiteflame
I have been suppressed of my site-given right to report quietly via the tap of a flag, told it's actually a privilege.
Thus, I have to ping ping ping ping ping every report I make, therefore why not do it publicly from time to time?
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@WyIted
but tabula rasa means there's no such thing as gish gallop as too many points is totally irrational to conclude without comparison outside the debate and is just a weak excuse.
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@Best.Korea
Whichever man is named skyler, his parents clearly wanted him to be bullied.
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@Mall
De-conversion therapy is trying to fix the transgender regret
regret of being born into what they feel is the wrong body or regret of transitioning later?
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@Best.Korea
It does within reason. However total deprivation won't. You need some dopamine rush just to feel good and happy at all.
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@oromagi
is the spam in this thread permitted? he gained post count for literally spamming.
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@Double_R
what do you define as 'want' btw?
isn't conversion therapy meant to make you want what you didn't before?
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@Double_R
You have a right to decide what's best for yourself. You don't have a right to violate others. Obvious difference.
no there isn't, you said this:
Yes, it is wrong to insist that someone else be converted into what you want them to be with no regard for what they want themselves to be. Why are we even talking about this?
This applies to all people you change in ways you deem better that isn't how they naturally are. You have an assumption that no gays and lesbians etc want to be turned straight and also have an assumptions that all pedos and bestiality people do, this is my point.
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@WyIted
how would you go about teaching preteens about sex at all? By that age their body is already changing if female for sure, guys maybe if they're hitting earlier.
how would you go about teaching them about different sexualities and races and how to treat them?
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@Double_R
Yes, it is wrong to insist that someone else be converted into what you want them to be with no regard for what they want themselves to be. Why are we even talking about this?
This is simply false, all job training and correction of prisoners comes to mind.
Pedos and animal fuckers especially come under this in a way you're alluding to being wrong.
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I do fear it because it's irrational not to, however thinking about it constantly is a sign of the opposite, ironically.
Suicidal people often start off thinking a LOT about their death in a negative way and it ends up with them desiring it.
There is not a rational reason to not fear your death, your fear of it grounds you in sane limits to decisions and actions.
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