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@Amber
I am with you 100% on loathing the trans agenda on children's and teens.

Fucking vile to encourage them to stop puberty and consent to permanent mutilation of their genitalia.
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@Amber
Tell us what you want children taught instead, to understand social equality of races and LGBTQ, how would you handle teaching them that in a better way?
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@Amber
I mean we are discussing the broader topic, not wasting our time watching a far right nutjob documentary.

Even if it's valid, I'd support removing a couple library books with too much smut okay but what else?
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@Best.Korea
I am not going to thumbs up  your post because I am rather radical on this.

I am against most Western approaches, they demonise porn and wanking/fingering and glorify safe sex. I support celibacy and masturbation to pornography or erotica as a healthy way to handle the urges as a teenager but if I say further it is illegal as I am encouraging something for underage people.

Worked for me. All else aside in my teenage years if I didn't have that way to release, I'd have never been able to focus at school considering I had a couple of mental disorders and I also had other issues like being underweight due to a lot of issues coping with both the disorders and food intolerances I didn't realise yet.

Others struggle too, I'm not making it about me. If I had not been able to 'release' that urge (and fuck me is it strong at the teenage years, you can go on forever some days) I would be stuck with a hardon wanting to imagine doing severe sexual things to those around me or if surrounded by ugly and/or not-my-type people, I'd just be constantly imagining things unable to focus.

Do you know what that's like? It's actual hell that people you vent to laugh at you about if you seek help. I began to masturbate regularly to porn earlier than I ever should have (according to an extremely arbitrary law that things a birthday suddenly grants you 0-100 consent and maturity) and suddenly was at the very least able to focus better at school than ever before. Instantly.

So you tell me if that's corrupted or bad, I really don't give a shit and neither should others it works for.

I know what the law says, I know it's illegal to advocate for, but I know the only alternative is encouraging underage safe sex (where both are underage) so... okay do that (not sure why that's more legal to advocate for than a healthy outlet that has 100% no STI and no emotional baggage guarantee)

In many progressive nations you can only legally watch porn and/or engage with sex toys 1-3 years after you can legally have sex. They think that's healthier and fairer. I just lol at the whole thing. Someone is much safer exploring their fantasies in their own brains and private surfing, being educated at school what's way too far and not okay to entertain, than they are acting it out way too young with other peers that are just as shit at it but you do you, I'll do me.
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@WyIted
Wrong. The ego lift is you thinking you're above them. You are only truly above those you can regularly defeat and they make fantastic warmup/sparring partner for the big clashes anyway.

You are above nobody. I am dirt, you are dirt. Debate always with this approach and you will find you debate much better, regardless of opponent.
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@WyIted
Less rape, sexual violence and healthier relationships amongst teens and preteens that learned sex ed Vs control groups studies. More likelihood tor report domestic molestation before it escalated to severe rape and trauma too (but also report severe cases if it's already too late).



There isn't proof the opposite leads to the opposite because they never allow such studies in those places.
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What is the typical accuracy of someone's personal outlook on life?
Do not know, do not care.

It is so unhealthy that we think the word 'normal' or 'typical' is even close to a compliment. You're a freak of nature and so am I. You do you, I do me. You have your struggles, I have mine.

We are united in this reality but not united in that your agony and pleasure aren't mine (unless we're very intimate or enemies).

I don't compare my situation to anyone's anymore and I have become so much stronger due to it. I am me, whether weak, pathetic and depressed or happy, strong, wealthy and with the (woman or even women) and children of my dreams.

I focus on being the best edition of my that today allows and slowly work towards the best me tomorrow can enable. It's that simple. Step by step to the best me and then the morgue.

I will never be the fucker in a retirement home sulking and dull, never. Kill me if I'm just a vegetable. I will be the best me or work towards it.
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@Amber
The thing is I think a lot of these right-wing peddlers don't get something:

1) All teenagers think about and get into sex, whether you suppress them knowing about porn-level stuff or not, the urges naturally evolve except for the 0.2% asexual no-libido types or whatever.

2) During this phase, if you have taught them nothing they resort to act on the urges to explore as they don't have masturbation as a healthy alternative especially as they've been taught it's evil to release the seed or whatever females are taught instead (that it's a 'whore' act to masturbate).

3) If you analyse the rate of unwanted pregnancies, child marriages and all sorts of unwanted things like rape etc in more conservative nations, these generally are worse but because it's done in ways it gets buried, it's not released, the proper data. In Islamic nations, the most conservative of them all, they will honor kill you for consensual sex outside of marriage but celebrate underage or barely-18 marriage with marital rape occuring.

There is no society or culture any of these right-wing peddlers can name they want to actually live in that has the backwards idiotic approach of totally cotton-wooling the eyes of youth to the realities of sexual intimacy, since they're all shit societies to live in. This is one of the few times when the 'racism' card can be played more on the left than the right but genuinely tell me, who would rather live in any sex-phobic conservative nation than a Western progressive one? Take that person, put them there, offer to move their immediate family with them if they share that view and tell them 'problem solved'.

I have a feeling they'll suddenly miss the West but genuinely if they don't, all the best to them. I do not say this with 0 exposure, I can promise you that. I have a lot of insight to both sides and the conservative world is not the place I ever want to live in, it's not all it's made out to be.
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Seeking a competitive debate.
Why are you so elitist about who gets to clash you? It can't be that you're so against noobsniping, you clearly have some sort of ego complex about only vsing those you see as worthy.
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@WyIted
If you thought Queer meant gay male, you wouldn't have put the Q in separate from the G nor would you have made the long original post rant about letting lesbians, bisexuals and people in general know they aren't necessarily what they think they are, queer included.

Why the fuck would a tomboy assume she's a gay male? Your own definition makes 0 sense with how you used it in your rant. Maybe it's you playing dumb games.
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@WyIted
thanks for clarifying how ignorant you are.
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@WyIted
When are you going to apologize for advocating for the spread of crime, poverty and degeneracy and start working towards peace and prosperity which are best achieved through freedom?
If you'd look away from America to the world to Africa, Asia, South America and Europe, you'd notice a trend:

The less regulation on the market, the more corrupt the nation unless it's the other extreme of absolute overregulation.

Idk how you can avoid degeneracy if you're pro-freedom it's one or the other.

I don't have to apologise for anything you're putting words in my mouth, you're the one priding yourself regularly in chats to be about being a manwhore, assuming I'm an incel constantly and telling everyone how you pride yourself on the knowledge gained by being a degenerate that fucked a lot and hated oppression, embracing your poverty even and telling us homeless choose to stay that way.
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@WyIted
How would I define queer?

It mean weird it just refers to gay people and I refuse to acknowledge the new definitions of the word that have been popularized. You are not queer for being a drag queen or a tomboy or a feminine male like Gordon Ramsey. 

I allowed the word queer to expand to mean gay because it happened before I as born, but I will be damned if I allow the word to be hijacked again.
Are you going to reply to anything else in my earlier long post?

Are you going to define queer?

I want an actual definition backed by a source.
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A person said because I debate well, that I make some tips on how to do better
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@TheUnderdog
This should be in the DART main section or in the miscellaneous btw, ask a mod to move it.
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A person said because I debate well, that I make some tips on how to do better
While I disagree that you debate anything close to well, I regard you as a mid-as-heck debater, I agree with your number 2 being extremely important. It's my greatest edge in debates and is how I rip noobs and mids to shreds in ways that are so low effort yet ruthless, in ways other pros need double the effort at least, to be doing.

I don't agree with you saying it's pointless, I think your advice is more applicable to daily-life debating. However, knowing truly how your opponent thinks is so important to low-effort high-brutality debating against noobs and mids, saves you so much effort.
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Study shows Republicans are more likely to be deaf and dumb
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@Amber
What's sick about liking BDSM?
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NordVPN is actually the best VPN if we balance out the categories.
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@ebuc
Liking it doesn't make it the best but ProtonVPN is superior to Opera's for sure.
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@Greyparrot
Data? Search to yourself. Being underweight put you at major risk of suffering some fo the worst COVID symptoms and being so weak if you'd get another disease too, you'd die.
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@WyIted
Show proof they were better under Republicans.
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@WyIted
You pick Russia and NK how about western Europe? How about Canada, Australia, South Korea and Japan?
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Trump is an insurrectionist
Trump is a sociopathic narcissist and has basically every single symptom of both.

Anyone who can't see it is scarily low in EQ.

I am talking every single symptom glaring at you.
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@WyIted
You basically looked to the single most crime ridden city in US to make your point as if that's a normal thing.
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@WyIted
Less regulation (not that there is no such thing as too much) leads to less genuine competition. You're just peddling a lie.

Without regulation, Nike and Adidas or whoever you can think of, can sell at temporary loss if need be and do all kinds of things, sweatshops as a bare given, and not being even slightly afraid of competitors rising up.

They sell at breakeven or loss to drive the competition to bankruptcy as their competitor has to sell higher, then they ramp up the price afterwards to make up for it.

That is one of many things available in unregulated markets and the elite rich are absolutely the tier of wealth most capable of exploiting this.
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The less educated poor (because they are barely able toa ford it and Republican states are reluctant to remove absurd kids from parents) can oftentimes fall victims to the trickery of Right Wing propaganda.

This has always been true.

If they are very conservative in values they may have somevalidr reasoning for it, but the freedom loving right wing libertarian types whoa re alos poor are the greatest fools of all, voting hell upon themselves over and over or just not voting at all.
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@WyIted
At least your parents knew which party cares more about the poor. All flaws or other things aside.

However, I asked which was more likely. You say it's 50 50?
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@WyIted
Back to the original topic...

Are you aware that anti monopoly and anti predatory laws to stop mega corporations destroying smaller competitors with underhanded tactics are internationally, regardless of culture, pushed by the left wingers of any given nation?

As in the reason they exist in any nation that has them is always the left wing. The right wing now support it too, yet they all owe the left wing for fighting for it.
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@Greyparrot
Skinny people suffered hardcore with COVID, being very likely to have chronic fatigue syndrome after it, still ongoing now.

COVID has serious permanent damage to skinnier people in general, didn't tend to kill them unless super skinny though.

It made them lose appetite, to breaking point at times. It makes everyone lose appetite but that's worse if you're skinny.
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Bye bye Ronna!
Think very hard about this...

Which parents would more likely vote democrats?

The ones in conditions that showed them due to others close to them, how necessary abortion can be or the ones with barely any need for it or who happily hypereproduce and neglect/abuse their 8 kids to 2 parents in a household barely distinguishable from a caravan?

You made it classist, even Republicans that re extremely poor don't want abortions. Why compare poor people likely to vote Democrats to rich Republicans?
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@WyIted
The easiest way to debunk what you're saying is that your claim is the deep state is just people agreeing in a completely non conspiratorial manner without any deals, coercion, bribing etc

Then you are also lying the deep state is evil, corrupt blablabla.

Doesn't add up. Your own source would disagree with you.
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@WyIted
If you called drag queens queer to my face we would have an issue. They are entertainers.  This is like calling Mrs doubtfire a queer. 

Fuck off with your bigotry
or what?

I really dont care and i'm not the skinny stick you think I am irl anymore, I actually workout regularly now as a hobby/necessity, it helps me stay sane and has the added benefit of making me want to eat more (the thing, exercise, that makes most people skinnier helped me get bigger). I am telling you, you'd not walk away from the fight tearless or with a story to tell you'd be proud of.

If you're gonna fight me or threaten me based on my freedom of speech, you're also a fucking hypocrite and fascist but as I said, unless you're drawing a gun on me, I am pretty sure I beat you. Don't threaten me again. And it was a threat or you wouldn't bring up 'to my face'. You'd have a problem even across the screen.

Instead of threatening me, define 'queer'. You should have a problem I sai dit online too. Get used to it, you type many things to trigger others on here that they'd have a 'problem' with you irl over. Don't get cocky or play victim because your itty bitty feelings are hurt.
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don't really care to be honest.

I literally quoted the law. You would be super against showing sexual content to underage people right? Why are you okay showing gory violent content to them?
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@WyIted

Here is a good source I found. Watching video now to comment

okay,

  • Jacob Seigel at Tablet breaks down the Deep State’s deployment of “disinformation” as a tool to manipulate and control the masses. Split into thirteen parts, the piece connects the dots between the 2014 Euromaidan Revolution in Ukraine to ‘Russiagate’ to COVID-19, and the militarization of the bio-medical security state to censor and surveil citizens.
  • Key excerpts:
    • “Since 2016, the federal government has spent billions of dollars on turning the counter-disinformation complex into one of the most powerful forces in the modern world: a sprawling leviathan with tentacles reaching into both the public and private sector, which the government uses to direct a “whole of society” effort that aims to seize total control over the internet and achieve nothing less than the eradication of human error.”
This requires serious organisation, can't just be a mentality.
    • CIA officers at Langley came to share a cause with hip young journalists in Brooklyn, progressive nonprofits in D.C., George Soros-funded think tanks in Prague, racial equity consultants, private equity consultants, tech company staffers in Silicon Valley, Ivy League researchers, and failed British royals. Never Trump Republicans joined forces with the Democratic National Committee, which declared online disinformation ‘a whole-of-society problem that requires a whole-of-society response.'”
How is this a mentality and how is it unorganised?
“The crime is the information war itself, which was launched under false pretenses and by its nature destroys the essential boundaries between the public and private and between the foreign and domestic, on which peace and democracy depend. By conflating the anti-establishment politics of domestic populists with acts of war by foreign enemies, it justified turning weapons of war against American citizens. It turned the public arenas where social and political life takes place into surveillance traps and targets for mass psychological operations. The crime is the routine violation of Americans’ rights by unelected officials who secretly control what individuals can think and say.”
How can you have an information war with only mentality?
“In a technical or structural sense, the censorship regime’s aim is not to censor or to oppress, but to rule. That’s why the authorities can never be labeled as guilty of disinformation. Not when they lied about Hunter Biden’s laptops, not when they claimed that the lab leak was a racist conspiracy, not when they said that vaccines stopped transmission of the novel coronavirus. Disinformation, now and for all time, is whatever they say it is. That is not a sign that the concept is being misused or corrupted; it is the precise functioning of a totalitarian system.”

who is 'they' 'they say it is'?
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@WyIted
it is entirely possible that you are not a queer.
Agreed, axiomatic fact.
The LGBT movement has tried to make the definition
of what? LGBT all four or what?
cover just about everything so as to make you personally identify with he movement so as to trick you into defending several forms of degeneracy.  
Okay but you don't mean 'definition' then, you mean scope of non-heteronormative orientations in sexuality and/or gender identity. In which case the question is then scope of the 'movement' means what? Is a lesbian automatically in the movement for being how she is?

Women who identify as men or gender queer 

If you are a female and you like a lot of masculine things, you like to hang out with the boys and watch football, but you are romantically interested in men, Tham the LGBTQP movement has most likely lied to you and told you that you in fact were gender non conforming or that you are a woman in a male's body but a homosexual male.
She is actually Q by definition, you dont understand the Q one.
You aren't.  You are a tomboy and there is nothing wrong with that.
Tomboys are queer, definitively. It's literally a queer status just as drag queen is etc.

You don't need to identify with their stupid movement and their attempts to confuse you and trick you into cutting off your tits.
While this is true, if we remove invectives, in an axiomatic manner, the lumping in of tomboys with post-top-surgery FtM transgenders is the very lumping you're hostile at the movement you're attacking for doing.
 
He'll I have seen some of you join tiktok, marry a man and have kids with him, but claim to be LGBTQP because you also change the oil in the car and love hunting. You aren't you are a tomboy, stay away from the brain washing.
A tomboy literally is queer and can be bi with a husband (the B should be changed to P though, because they are pansexual if into queers and transgenders too)


Bisexual women

You have been told that you are part of the LGBTQP movement because you like men and you are attracted to women. This is untrue. You have been lied to. 
Do you know what the L and/or B stand for? You're making a fool of yourself.

I personally have been with so many women that it is disgusting and I probably have a disease. Every single one with the exception of one, was attracted to other women and open to 3somes or one night stands with other women.
Nobody cares, you obviously go for the type into that. Irrelevant to the topic.

If you are mostly in relationships with men, you are co sidereal heterosexual.
No, you aren't. You can even be heteroromantic but sexually option to your own gender for sex only.

Do not let the  woke mob convince you you are weird or odd or not normal. You are normal.
Well if your anecdotal evidence with who you fucked consistently being into women as well as men is true, you're right they're the norm, the heterosexual women are then the minority. Make your mind up. 

It is normal for a woman to be in mostly male relationships but enjoy the beauty of a woman. 
That is heteroromanticism (if mostly means entirely, otherwise it's bi/pan in relationships too) but not heterosexuality.
Lesbian women

If you are a lesbian woman, I have news for you. No you are not. This is a cope. I have slept with at least 3 women who have claimed to be lesbian. I didn't turn them. They identified that way prior to me fucking them, and yes the sex was consensual. 
Idk if you're trying to be funny or you're an idiot. Nobody gives a shit what your small sample size liked, nymphomaniacs or whoever it was, maybe are consistently more sexually fluid, that's not the point you're trying to make is it?

If you hink you are a lesbian, you are a woman with low self confidence. You either think you are too ugly to get a man because you are, so you pretend to be a lesbian because many women are more open to sex with ugly people, though you yourself aren't open to sex with an ugly man. 

The second option is you have low self esteem but it's because people are dicks not because you are ugly. You are beautiful, you are heterosexual stop lying to yourself and maybe if you are ugly do lower your standards a bit and find some incel.
You are literally doing the gaslighting you claim to loathe the LGBTQ+ movement for doing. You are telling someone to ignore their biology and urges and take your word for what they experience and desire.

Feminine guys who like women

You are not a lesbian or a Trans person. Do not let these sickos talk you into cutting off your penis and joining their cult. If you do want to cut off your penis, just cut off the tip and become a Christian. 
Maybe but depending how they express it they're probably queer.

It's okay to like cooking or to be into interior design or whatever the fuck feminine men do. 
You defining that as feminine is your own bigotry at play. There are macho af chefs, maybe interior design less so. You don't even know what you're defining as feminine before making the bs sclaims


Gay men

Okay you really are part of the LGBT
Okay, so your brain turned on here... I think I got the idea.


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@WyIted
I want a non schizo source from a serious republican that overtly describes the deepstate as an organized illuminati type organization or any sort of organized group for that matter. 
okay...

Does this count?

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@WyIted
But what are these academic right wing sources you say that roosevelt or anyone could use to prove you wrong on that? What sources other than your cherry picked one that you say doesn't refer to deep state in name, could be used to clarify if it's referred to as an organised group or a mentality?
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I am not bothered to prove you wrong. Do what you want, crying First Amendment in court will cover you.
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Bye bye Ronna!
They probably in part vote Democrat as they support abortion rights, that's part of why they vote them. Use your head.
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Bye bye Ronna!
Copium.
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You used a misleading domain/title to the thread to lure those potentially under 16 to view gore.

It's in both our interests to beg whiteflame to delete that thread, eh? And leave my name out your mouth while at it.
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@WyIted
Fact: it is not illegal for kids to see Gore and it would be a violation of the first amendment if it was and yes this is a predominantly American site so fuck off with your stupid disinfo

Obscenity
          Obscenity is not protected under First Amendment rights to free speech, and violations of federal obscenity laws are criminal offenses.  The U.S. courts use a three-pronged test, commonly referred to as the Miller test, to determine if given material is obscene.  Obscenity is defined as anything that fits the criteria of the Miller test, which may include, for example, visual depictions, spoken words, or written text.
          Federal law makes it illegal to distribute, transport, sell, ship, mail, produce with intent to distribute or sell, or engage in a business of selling or transferring obscene matter. Convicted offenders face fines and imprisonment.  Although the law generally does not criminalize the private possession of obscene matter, the act of receiving such matter could violate federal laws prohibiting the use of the mails, common carriers, or interactive computer services for the purpose of transportation. (For more information, see Citizen's Guide to Federal Law on Obscenity).
Obscenity Law and Minors
          Federal law strictly prohibits the distribution of obscene matter to minors. Any transfer or attempt to transfer such material to a minor under the age of 16, including over the Internet, is punishable under federal law.  It is also illegal to use misleading website domain names with intent to deceive a minor into viewing harmful or obscene material.  For example, using a cartoon character or children´s television program in the domain of a website that contains harmful or obscene material may be punishable under federal law.
          In addition, visual representations, such as drawings, cartoons, or paintings that appear to depict minors engaged in sexual activity and are obscene are also illegal under federal law.
          It is important to note that the standard for what is harmful to minors may be different than the standard for adults, and offenders convicted of obscenity crimes involving minors face harsher penalties than if the crimes involved only adults (For more information, see Citizen's Guide to Federal Law on Obscenity).

Swearing and insulting doesn't make your point more true, just makes you seem more dumb when proven wrong. :)
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No, it isn't.
Good to know the wealthy don't try to influence laws. 
They do, they prefer as little intervention in economics as possible.
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@WyIted
Some studies show that black abortions are almost 50% of all abortions. https://www.guttmacher.org/gpr/2008/08/abortion-and-women-color-bigger-picture

Are you aware that Trump senior advisor Jason Miller, who is married, knocked up another Trump campaign staffer named AJ Delgado and tried to get her to have an abortion?

I don't think the majority of abortions are from powerful millionaires who don't want to take responsibility for their choices. 

It's just like when you see that dateline usually covers the murders of attractive white females. This is just where the media likes to point the camera, the majority of murders re not of white women. 

Yes you can point out examples where a republican gets an abortion. Your premise that mostly Republicans are getting abortions seems flawed though and we can set up a debate and have people judge who wins once all the facts are out
This is because the poor person, black or not, is less likely fit to raise the offspring and in capitalist America can't get condoms or pill in any public-funded way, correct?

Thus, when hormones kick in and for some (not all, some) lack of self control happens or when rapes happen they also can't afford plan B easily and 'hope' the other pulled out fast enough or whatever.

It's not a fairytale, however you should use your high IQ brain you tell people about and think about the chain of correlation, this isn't a causative one, it's a demand-correlated one.
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Actually he claims the deep state is NOT organized 
yes I want to know what he'll consider a valid academic source that says it's organised.

Then I will find where they say it as literally all references to the deep state by right wing sources address an organised group.
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@WyIted
please name right wing sources you'd consider valid that have referred to the deep state and said it's an organised group as opposed to a mentality?

If you don't name them, you can come later saying that's 'not real right wing'.
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@WyIted
The democrats do because regulations make it harder for small businesses to comply which give large businesses more market share and more ROI for shareholders. 
What are you talking about? You made that up. In fact every single thing is harder for smaller poorer business owners under Republican ideals, from getting healthcare, education, transport, mortgage you name it. It's all absolute fucking hell under their policies and much easier mobility-wise under Democrat policies but Democrats rarely get their way, that much has been proven true in backwards America, the least progressive of all nations to be called equally or more advanced than it.

If you take a look you see founders In New markets attempt to court politicians to establish an early monopoly. Just after open AI was released they sent a shitload of lobbiests to Washington to attempt to regulate the market so it would be too expensive for other companies to take any of their market share. The same happened with Sam Bankman, he immediately after starting his crypto exchange started lobbying several governments for immense regulation so he could position himself formerly all of the market share and take out other crypto exchanges
So because Biden and Democrats happen to be in power it's their doing? The founder would do the same if Trump was.

Economic interventionism is a tool for the wealthy elite. 
No, it isn't.
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@WyIted
I appreciate very little of what you post, least of all you linking to pure gore and implying something by tagging me into a completely irrelevant thread.
It was on a live gore but if you actually watched the video is was less disturbing than your average R rated horror movie
It had absolutely 0 to do with me. You did not have a single valid reason to tag me in it, you know that and instead of apologising you double down.
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@WyIted
*anyone wondering why I have not tagged RM, he blocked me due to apparently saying g trump was truthful in one instance and giving him a warm welcome. Take that as a reflection on his character however you will
I blocked him because Wylted has for years done everything to get a rise of any user he can and recently tagged me in a gore video he illegally linked on a site open to those aged under 18 (this website) to a son that murdered his father due to political allegiance, trying to trigger me on many fronts and also made a thread to remove me from the hall of fame.

I won't speak further on this, Wylted knows this is why I blocked him and made the very post I reply to to gaslight and trigger me, ask what kind of character he is. This is consistent with who he's always been here, enough said. If you don't block a user like that, you're a fool.

As far as the central park 5 is concerned, they were guilty of being part of the group that attacked that jogger. If one person is guilty of attacking her but 10 others stand around and cheer it on, then obviously she will be afraid to fight back and defend herself and any onlookers will be afraid to rescue her when a large crowd of people are on the side of the attackers. 
Similarly (if we talk about wrong to call Trump a liar), since I actually anticipated this comeback, Trump is a guilty scumbag in many other ways than saying he was spied on and lies more than he tells the truth.

Those kids aren't innocent. They were engaging in mob violence and criminal activity. If you have 5 people do a bank robbery but only one of them kill the teller when it is done and over with, all 5 get charged with murder. 
They were innocent of what they got sentenced for beaten by cops and charged with, what's worse is the real rapist(s) was/were free and the cops and prosecutor couldn't care less until the main rapist himself told it (idk if there were multiple still confused on that front).

Perhaps their punishment was disproportionate to the crime, but they absolutely were engaged in criminal behavior and deserved to lose at least a few years of their life for it. 
Trump wanted them all killed, he didn't care the real rapist(s) were free, he didn't care he was wrong later either. This is a much worse scenario than being wrong about Trump lying about being spied on during his campaign and he outright refuses to apologise for all the media and other ways he pushed the cause of executing these boys for the crime another committed.

He never said sorry.

You follow?

Does that bother you? If not, you're just a hypocrite, confused or both.
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@Theweakeredge
Over years of development i've come to this website for a lotta' things, a way to "sharpen" my brain, a way to develop my argumentation- and in some ways it did do that, but in other ways it stunted me.
When you start like this and don't expand on how it did that or how it stunted you, it defeats making this your intro line after the 'hi I see you missed me'.
This place is a cesspot of conspiracy theories, bigotry, and fierce anti-intellectualism(really ironic considering the website's supposed purpose).
Cesspit* or cesspool* not cesspot. While this is full of that in your perspective, the world is full of it too, the world is that cesspit. At least here you can challenge the very few who show up.
In some ways, it did help me learn to format my arguments and how to argue against some....real...... opinions- opinions are the very charitable version, but in others it made me so so defensive, always assuming people were arguing disengeniously or with such poor frameworks they needed to be deconstructed on the basic level.
They are arguing disingenuously with poor frameworks outside here. Outside of here in the 'real world' people are so full of illogical bs that many who believe right things are just lucky they believed what they were told by the right source on the right topic.

The simple truth is that most regular people have better opinions than the vast majority of people here,
You don't like the majority lean of the site, that's fine. This is such a tiny site that's even totally understandable. So what?

and they don't need to justify it with increasingly less intelligible excuses.
Yes they do, in fact being autistic myself I have had to learn how to calmly handle the dogshit logic most use and even befriend or love many who do. Whether relatives, friends or perhaps spouse. You have to learn to accept and see the stupid logic many use and not resent them for it. It's hard but it's doable, if you get there your general anger levels and blood pressure will reduce so much.

And, i think i've finally moved past the need for this website. Thanks for all the time i spent here, thanks to all the people who weren't bigoted and folk who really wanted to just learn and explore. I think the fact that I haven't participated in a debate in YEARS now and yet still sit in the Number 11 spot is really telling of whats happening to this website.
Based on everything you wrote in this, I think you can't handle debates against cunning, tactical opponents. You want it easy, you want to deal with very straightforwards opponents but then because you like them or you surround yourself only with those that agree with you, you end up unable to debate them on most things.

You don't like or thrive in debating.

I want people to remember that I moved between spots in the gap of a few months, and I was all the way down in the 20s for a while, its not like i was staying high up.
This site has a severe activity issue and you type so many thousands of characters per Round and pick opponents that are spread thin, that's how you kept that rating.

This website also doesn't reset seasons or cause elo-decay for inactivity.

I hope the people who stay here get something out of this website. I hope you bigots learn empathy, for others and yourselves,
They probably won't, you hoping it won't change that. You also lack empathy for the bigots.
i hope all of you who still believe all you need to do to stop bigotry is extend a hand and have a conversation learn to give yourselves more kindness. 
This is a very incoherent hope. You hope that people who:

a) still believe all they need to do to stop bigotry is extend a hand and have a conversation.

should:

b) learn to give themselves more kindness.

Okay...

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@WyIted
How do the elite rich benefit more under a Democrat economic progressive tax system than the much more lenient Republican one?
Republicans are also for a progressive tax. We agree that the wealthy  should be taxed disproportionately. We do want a small government and one tool to hopefully get that done is lower tax rates for everyone, however the paradigm is shifting a bit to republicans openly being okay with bigger government because they see it as removing one tool from their system if the government is always being grown from liberal interests but never for conservative interests. 
I see nowhere in this lie you wrote where it covers a way the Democrats benefit the elite rich more, please guide my eyes.
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@WyIted
I appreciate very little of what you post, least of all you linking to pure gore and implying something by tagging me into a completely irrelevant thread.

You are blocked now on your latest rendition alt as you should be. I am going to enjoy my time here whether you like it or not or go, whenever it suits me. I am not gonna be nearly as active as before.
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