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@TWS1405_2
2 and 3 are not debate topics, they are descriptions or Round 1s.
Also you cannot have rated debates as is. So my interest has dwindled.
I will accept the first without the extension after the semicolon, with me as Con.
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@That2User
I first had to really, really pinpoint Mafia. I spotted the shared environmental bill involvement between Barney's character and Wylted's but if that was wrong it could have been a very intentional red herring Pie put there.
When SA returned the way he behaved screamed Town to me, it made me really comfortable and sure the scum was between GP and Barney for the partner of Whiteflame.
Then I had already noticed something peculiar about my own guy, he'd been a 2-term Senator and 2-term Governor too, so I thought the theme was about being 2-term something but SA picked up on that Lombardo was only a 1-term governor and that still the theme fit if it was just about being 'more than 2' for Scum.
It clicked also in my head that Pie would want it relatively solvable so other than a region of US vs region of US theme, the only thing quickly noticable is something like term-lengths. It clicked in my head at the last minute but I had already considered it beforehand but if I said that to begin with it would create 2 problems:
1. if I'm wrong I will have singlehandedly ruined the Town
2. Even a town version of Barney and WF would react angry and scumread me for that and Whiteflame being angry is a towntell of his that I didn't want to fuel, I needed organic WF interacting with me.
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I still hard-solved the game this is just bullcrap mechanics winning it for mafia same as with Lunatic's game
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I used to, as a child/teen always think the saying referred to quitting while one was ahead at something. The idea being eventually we all get our bad game, rainy day etc and pushing our luck is asking for disaster.
However, having now had experience at gambling and seeing a different context for the saying even in other scenarios outside of gambling, I am seeing truth in those who would wrongly quote it as quitting when one is already behind, to avoid further problems and harsher downswings.
What I cannot seem to get to the bottom of is if it just that I was raised with the 'ahead' variant being normal or if it really is the original.
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I outsmarted the LIVING SHIT out of you wylted, know it and burn inside
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@Barney
@Vader
@whiteflame
@That2User
@AustinL0926
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@SirAnonymous
This, and Wylted's had an environmental bill he is known for too, do the others at all? (that's Barney's)
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@ILikePie5
i am so fucking happy thank you for this game, I respect tf out of the depth of it.
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@SirAnonymous
HUG ME AND THEN KNEEL BEFORE ME, KNIGHT ANONYMOUS I AM KING OF MAFIA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA <3333
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yessss!!!!!!! HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAA crack it yourself next dp <3
mvp RM
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THE TOWN GOVERNORS HAVE ALL BE REELECTED AT SOMETHING AT SOME POINT!
LISTEN TO ME!!!
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@SirAnonymous
You are probably town therefore, for sure.
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@SirAnonymous
I LEGIT CRACKED THE THEME!!!!!!!!!!! try to see if yours or any were 2-term at something
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@SirAnonymous
BRO I THINK I CRACKED THE THEME MOTHERFUCKER THAT'S WHY TOWN PRS ARE ALL 2X HAHAHAHAAHHAHAAH
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@SirAnonymous
I really am struggling with theme analysis but hopefully I am dead and won't have to deal with it. Does something stand out to you about the scum governor vs the others? Are the others all 2-termers?
Not as governors but as something at all. Mine was a 2-term senator too not just governor, from what I understand, joe lambardo was a 2-term sheriff etc
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@DebateArt.com
idk how to reproduce the error. it comes and goes
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@DebateArt.com
severe bugs when editing posts with multiple quotes, it's very unviable.
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@whiteflame
I don’t understand the logic regarding my somehow being “forced to lead onto Wylted DP1”, since you seem to be exclusively focused on Wylted’s game. It seems like you are placing the blame on him for your inability to get a lynch on me, when you clearly had the opportunity and simply refused to get an early lynch on a known scum. I don’t know what makes you think that I had to be early on him if I was scum, either, since you were pretty ineffectively recruiting to my wagon. I don’t have a history of bussing like this, but somehow this makes me scummy?
You didn't have to lynch wylted fast to survive, you had to lynch wylted fast to towntell. You were compelled to bus as your partner had just claimed hitler and you knew that the town version of you would never ever forgive that.
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This is easily a bus by SA, easily the only thing is what use is GP's role if Town lacked a watcher and tracker both?
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@SirAnonymous
whiteflame never ever once claimed to jailkeep you np2. What is it you are implying there?
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@SirAnonymous
2. Barney is a yakuza. He recruited Whiteflame, who actually is a 1x jailbreaker, and is out of shots.
so you weren't jailkept np2? Also jailbreaker is pseudononsense.
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@SirAnonymous
Just testing you on why you are so sure.
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I don't think you should be able to sue your parents for giving birth to you...I do however, think everyone else should be able to sue your parents for giving birth to you.
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@SirAnonymous
But if you factored in roleblockers and as you say the killing probability (ignore lynching, assume you will towntell and win) you will see the apex version of you in this game would have tracked NP1.
I agree with you only if you were 1x, that as a 1x tracker saving for np2 this game was optimal.
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Writing and thinking about this post had me thinking about DP2, was a freudian slip.
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If the flip contains conversion, greyparrot is redlit, do not lynch greyparrot dp2 in this case.
i mean dp5 the post I just made confused my brain
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@SirAnonymous
I feel you and GP would drag this out and troll, genuinely, in case you're confused why I consider that.
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@SirAnonymous
if it was you and GP then whatever, there are limits to my abilities obviously.
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Remember this:
If whiteflame flips non-RB hold SA with severe suspicion next dp, hand hammer to nobody since Barney no-visited on a track only on a night where his RBs either may be used up and/or absolutely no RB is confirmed to have happened.
If the flip contains conversion, greyparrot is redlit, do not lynch greyparrot dp2 in this case.
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@SirAnonymous
I already am voting him. I am completely and utterly sure.
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@SirAnonymous
barney RM is equally impossible to barney SA
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@SirAnonymous
The more players that are in the game, the lower my chances of tracking scum. Thus, I would be more likely to get useful information if I used my 2 shots in later DPs. Of course, I was gambling that the game would last to DP4 and that I would still be alive. That was a gamble I was willing to take.
this is mathematically nonsense, since by this logic the better Town is doing if they lynched Scum dp2 for instance, the logic you use would paralyse you to not track np2 either.
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@Barney
even when GP truly believes in something he does that with irl politics on here, that's just his style. Town or not he'd do that.
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@Barney
Pie clarified, even if scum died, they will count to it. So no matter what yes basically 100% sure by dp3 my power is nullified.
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@Barney
I still think the team is Whiteflame and you but I like you this DP, you do give towny vibes but I am not that naive to go back on my theory. I get that from your perspective, GP is the safest bet but from mine WF is.
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@Barney
My role PM just says for every eliminated player, not specifying anything about said eliminations, it adds +1 (not using these exact words but 'eliminated' is used)
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@Barney
Pie definitely customised my role to fit a Town alignment, you pointed out something even I had overlooked (that he stopped it at Mylo to be merciful to Town)
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I was also misinformed. Pie seems to be wrong about DeWine's trajectory... DeWine did have a very close win indeed in his original win against Richard Cordray. I really don't get what the hell Pie informed me of in my role PM. I have no interest in those stupid specifics of politics anyway. It's not the part of politics I have a passion for.
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The reason my role on me is so good is it fits my playstyle so fucking well, I like to out hard and fast and bait action leading up to that DP1 outing and make DP1 revolve around me and where I lead the action, it was a fantastic role for me to have.
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@Barney
since Pie did end up clarifying to me that the purifier is useless on permanent things like passive roles etc, I believe I was wrong about this setup unless it is a recruiter.
I think that a lawyer among scum makes a lot of sense, to trick Austin. This super ironically would mean the only use of purifier ultimately would be to save Town from wrongly inno-ing a scum member. The framer alternative is not as balanced as Town already has miller and would waste a super precious investigator... though if SA is Town then it adds up to be balanced as the Town can fall back on their tracker... Which makes no sense.
The reason it makes no sense, is because for SA to be tracker a ninja must be present. Let me explain why.
The mafia and Town both were superpowered defensively, we have a role to OT lynches, including on himself ofc, which is more defensive than offensive (saves Town from blitzes), you had me the Senator for early defense (and I agree it was put on a very good person to have the role, though I disagree that I often get DP1 lynched, which you hinted at comedically earlier, I think DP1 right)
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@Barney
My role is also different to what the wikipedia page says. My role increases even if the eliminated player is mafia, since it never states only if the player is Town. I can ask Pie and will do so now.
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why he failed to vote whiteflame or anyone after BK was modkilled despite being active since that point. He was ready to take the L for his teammate(s) to look Towny.
he did this at the last possible minute just for show, ready to unvote no doubt.
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I corrected 'even if they are dead' to 'even if they are killed' to clarify what I meant there, shortly after into DP1.
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