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One of the only debates Ramshutu lost here was trying to outwit me in a rap battle. Not sure he has the sense of humour he thinks he does, just circle jerkers patting each other on the back as they do you know what to the idea of humiliating me.
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@Sir.Lancelot
Look at the time of the posts, LOL!
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@Sir.Lancelot
He posted that after I posted that post, you fool.
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@Stephen
no as in the blonde?
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@Athias
I also don't want concubines unless I'm very sure she'll raise it well. I want to be a father figure not just a sperm donor, major difference.
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You're like a vine and I'm a tree, you are like a fucking leech and I am the body you suck the blood out of. The fact you think you are 'winning' is a delusion driven by your drivel-supporting upvoting enablers for the pathological issue you have as you say.
I don't need satire, I just tell you how it is.
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it's not a fad, that much I'm sure of. It's in line with the AI-controlled matrix coming.
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@K_Michael
It's actually more disturbing as she wasn't a woman yet, she was 17.
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@K_Michael
you are a gay guy so I feel this is going to go a direction that I am just out of my depth as ironically I can discuss some things about lesbian dynamics in this topic but gay men and me I just don't know them well or understand the way they function psychologically in relationships. I am too straight in that sense.
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@K_Michael
It is totally 100% equal. You don't seem to understand both are opting into it every single day, there is of course some sense of loyalty and guilt once in to just ditch the other cold but I am all for let's say 'fuck off' to each other and truly move on type breakups.
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@K_Michael
buddy that was only the first part of that video and you are grasping at straws, it was the women's shower and everyone there knew it. YMCA gym and swimming pool being open to women was not the argument.
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@K_Michael
I have not seen such a ridiculous sidetrack in a while.
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@bmdrocks21
Not quite. The natural state of humans is men competing viciously to be the one many women choose, this has been the case in all civilisations early on but elite families benefitted from the structure of monogamy.
The reason is that if an elite bloodline had only daughters in a generation, it allowed them to maintain their prowess even though they'd lose their name, on a raw DNA level, by ensuring the elite men had to be loyal.
Under polyamory and polygamy peasant women could date/marry 'up' but that was inherently toxic as they'd be dependent anyway.
Since the societies are shifting towards women being equal to men and even in some cases having more protections in place, it follows in my opinion that it could only benefit them if they actually want a high value guy not for his income anymore but intellect, depth, connection etc.
It has to be fulfilling for all participants. Not everyone is wired as territorial as others.
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@bmdrocks21
Won't point out it maximises pleasure too. Nice one, shitposter gets a W.
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@bmdrocks21
Go ahead, measure the faults. I am curious actually who could be more faulted than Wylted.
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@K_Michael
I want to get married for love primarily and what saddens me is that we can't all get married in 3-way or 4-way sense.
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@K_Michael
This is the only moral problem. If you want to have an open relationship, it has to be open both ways. That means that they can fuck other men (or women if that's what they like). Saying "within reason" like you're being generous with their freedoms as if you own them, meanwhile you're freeing yourself to have sex with as many women as you want? Absolute hypocrite. If you have an open relationship but one or more of your partners feels perfectly happy to only have you, the more power to them, but it should be their choice.
No. It doesn't. There are other 'couples' (they aren't really 2 then I guess) with this arrangement anyway and I don't just mean some hyperIslamic couple, I mean bdsm and/or swingers.
Where they differ is often the fine line between swinging and poly in the man and whether the woman enjoys women in an active way or a cuckquean way. I am allowed to firmly have power to me and it be my choice to set that boundary if they don't like it they literally can be my friend or leave (I'd probably need a full week to get over them at least with 0 contact anyway and that's only if it's a fresh relationship that I just got into, otherwise I'd need longer).
You seem to think only the submissive one is entitled to set demands and negotiate and this is a common anti-dominant anti-masculine misconception all at once but that is not the case. I am allowed to say if you mess around with other men beyond very basic flirting that's just your playfulness, you will not be the woman I claim as my own and I won't be the man you have as your alpha.
Equality gets misconstrued a lot to imply that the one in charge or benefitting from a responsible leadership role between the 2 of you overall, AKA shotcaller role, is somehow the lesser partner.
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Also, what is more disturbing is the fact you got 3 upvotes to correctly noting that I lived true to the correct moral of the story of the hare and the tortoise, which was that had the hare not sprinted and instead paced itself patiently, it would have won instead of crashing out and oversleeping.
You say the dumbest stuff to make digs at me and some utter imbeciles upvote it.
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I have no intention of running in that circus act. Wylted was literally able to win it with no platform at all and having acted as he's acted in the past.
That means the system is absolutely faulty, meaning to play to win in the system is now 2 years in a row proven to favour the piece of dirt who just shows up and says 'hey I'm gonna make DART supafamussss dolla dolla'
I am not interested. You also need to really take a step back and consider that as a percentage of what you post you're nothing more than a negative version of a lackey to me similar to the percent you said I was to Dart itself and that's not only more embarassing, it's closer to true for you.
You have apparently paid out of pocket relentlessly to keep this website going, I am so confused why. Imagine you spent all that money on building your own debate website, you even have background in computer science you have told us.
There is of course one alternative, you being Mike himself. However, I doubt that... Though it is definitely viable.
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@Sidewalker
you do know that they'd know each other existed at the very least the entire time right?
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and to you having absolutely fuck all to contribute to the website's forums than dragging me down, you pathetic cretin.
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@Sidewalker
One tip I learned from my experience so far is it's definitely one by one that's gonna get me there, as in you focus entirely on woman 1 and 2 before ever thinking of 3 existing in the scenario, keep 2 solid af and only then begin to push for 3 because 3 also is gonna be different in the first place, not necessarily the least needy but the one you can't just chat endlessly with and kiss day in day out and such whatever.
This means she's gonna have to be the busier one, the steelier one perhaps. Things to be worked out as we go along and evolve it.
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@Sidewalker
and that's why they end up with me, because you had that attitude and I had mine. Not that we necessarily have the same type though, just a metaphor.
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@Sidewalker
out of curiosity so you can explain, why is it not as easy as I think?
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@sadolite
Put the shoe on the other foot and ask the question again. Is it morale for your wife to have multiple husbands, forget the idea that you may not like it when thinking about it. Your feelings don't matter. Even better leave morality out of it all together when thinking about it.
I am confused what you mean by the question unless you think that:
a) my partner and I have to work the same way psychologically
b) she cannot enjoy the other woman in a way another man and me would probably never enjoy each other and I don't just mean sexually I mean clashing as who is the one wearing the pants so to speak etc.
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Idk if it's an intellect issue or something but you guys act as if it would have been sensible and wise of me to have made a thread tearing deep into Wylted's past destroying his reputation unprovoked when he was running on a clown candidacy without any platform.
That's just ridiculous as fuck and could easily have lost me the election. You are crazy to even suggest it.
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@Lemming
I honestly think meeting lovers online is the future of dating, you can risk more being 'real' with them in relatively faster and smoother ways you'd have to be fake irl in case of the wrong kind of person exposing DMs and/or spreading rumours about something you said or did (even if exaggerated or false). Obviously you can get unlucky, they can live nearby but it's a game of odds and you at least have time to get to know them bit by bit, connecting as people more than physically, making the physical stuff get earned later.
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@Stephen
okay you are unblocked but you will just insult me soon enough
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@Stephen
I don't share your true caution or 'hatred' for transgenders. What I am concerned with is they say they're changing gender and that gender isn't related to sex but they can't wrap their head around the idea they are still the sex they were born as, that's where it's all getting very murky.
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I love how only ex women are cunts. Men never hold grudges, treat people like shit or try to fuck an ex over. You wonder why women are starting to hate men.
They aren't starting to hate men, I have come across those who don't hate men even ones who have really been mistreated by men that don't hate men.
I don't date men or know much of male ex's, I presume they have similar typology but I reckon males also have an aspect of pride being hurt that females lack. The reason is that males attach a huge amount of ego to keeping their women satisfied and loyal, I feel like women attach more of a safety and security vibe that if they have that can within reason share their man. I don't really know what other men are like, I don't date them and have only been me my whole life, I didn't take the interest to deeply research what male exes are like etc I know some anecdotes from female friends and such to go by. That's about it.
Try to move on, for real. Try to learn to unlove without it making you furious and bitter. It's actually not easy, it's a whole training journey.
^^^ How can you interpret me saying the above as me denying men have issues as exes?
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My brother, if you have the money just do it
to be clear, I like women with jobs but I accept maternity leave as a serious thing. No way do I want a totally dependent housewife, that's not the thing I seek at all, I want us both to be able to walk away from each other and know we are staying consensually and out of genuine love and trust. It's not 'walk away and fight over custody' this is where picking the right woman is essential. It's amicably parting ways. It's extremely important you pick the right women for that because trust me on this there are only 2 types of (especially female) ex:
1. the bitter, vindictive type
2. the forgive but not forget type
You need to make absolutely certain you've got number 2 before doing anything like raising a family with her. How you go about doing that is what separates winners from losers on a whole different level than people think. I'm talking about being elderly and happy together, about it being so smooth along the way instead of bumpy even if you lose love for each other and realise you're just good as friends. That cannot happen if she's wired to be the number 1 type of ex. It's also very important for you, yourself, to battle within you the parts of you that push you to be number 1 type of ex, we all have that in us partly.
Try to move on, for real. Try to learn to unlove without it making you furious and bitter. It's actually not easy, it's a whole training journey.
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@Intelligence_06
such as?
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Nobody is fooled, I am so in love with dart thank you. I love debating though, I really wish a good competitor shows up. You can't really debate people on quora and reddit.
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Anyone who wants more than one woman has never actually dated a woman. Because they are hard work.
I will let you believe that. The second sentence is not wrong.
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@Intelligence_06
Good. I want the unworthy to perish, it was the way we evolved as a species.
That said, I in no shape or form forced this or said it was all about reproduction.
I also don't give a shit and neither does/will my woman/women. We will be happy together and make what we do work. Of course society matters, yes it does but its approval of us? Keep shit lowkey, you think I run around IRL saying I am RM the great DART madman, nope. Just shut up, live your life and let these fools judge. There are 'monogamous' guys cheating, 'monogamous' women cheating and abusing, neglecting each other and their children. Marriage therapists think 'talking it out' solves total lack of chemistry and bad partnership. I am super skeptical about that but I am all for trying it out.
I think there really are 'soulmates', you know people you just flow so fucking naturally with it's insane? People you can argue with spend time apart and you still want to be intimate, share stuff going on and chat? It's like magnetism and if it's toxic it's actually hard to resist it. What do I owe some loser not getting my women? Nothing. I was a loser not getting any and I put in and am putting in the work to be a true leader, a dominant man that takes responsibility instead of being the shit-stain loser I have been for far too long. You think these douchebags who bang women (and/or men) regularly care? You think the nymphos (that's a politically correct term for what a promiscuous woman is) getting their kicks from many men and women care?
Nobody cares when I'm down, single, lonely, pathetic and wasting away. Nobody I am outcompeting for these women did. Ever. Only my close relatives at most. So who is gonna care when I say fuck it, man tf up, make it in life and happen to have 2 or 3 women? It's not just a game either, I want it truly epic, amazing and fun and them to keep each other company in ways I can't as I'm socially awkward, introverted, autistic and sometimes need alone time for days. I am sure it can work with 2 bisexual women, 3 even.
I can of course let some other man try. I can let women try too (literally, my other women would be partners with the others hopefully to some degree very good if not best friends). I am also not just meaning me, I have researched a lot if there's some kind of psychological drawback, if it really is demeaning and abusive and all the results are positive if there is good communication. In fact, to be sexist, I have found there to be much more positivity with there being 1 man and multiple women than any variant of the opposite where she genuinely loves more than 1.
I don't care about this nonsense 'it's not normal' 'it's not equal' equal???? EQUAL? Yeah, it wasn't and never will be equal. You can't love someone more than almost all other humans without inequality leading to that, trust, chemistry and all. You want equal? You think all men and all women are equally good for each other? Be my guest, let toxic women ruin you for a while and come back to me.
This is not about bitterness, it's about evolving. It's about being so developed, researched and sure of myself and an adventure even for my original lover before the other shows up. You wonder why old couples usually get bitter and toxic, yelling mean remarks at each other? They're bored. Not just of each other it's not that, they are bored, it all stagnated. They built on necessity and conformity, that's the basis of their partnership and that's so toxic and horrible. I want to build a system where one of us can literally die and the parenting of our children is still going to go okay, I really want them to truly fulfil each other, I don't just want a 100% heterosexual woman in the sense of true partnership. I want them to have each other's back, if I get cancer, if anything happens. I need to know they and the family are going to last. I need to be sure of the unit. I am its natural leader, if I have not ensured that to maximal capacity, I am strategically flawed.
You really think her parents and that whole vibe is the same? It isn't. The grandparents will feel overburdened needing to shoulder and replace what you dying or needing to spend time away is leading to. I am talking about a genuine, non-toxic, non-harsh contingency plan in place if one or even 2 (If 3) of us 'go down'. Not some 'omg I need to replace that person now immediately' thing but an immediate 'soldier on' path. People don't think these things through or realise how hard you should work to earn the love you want. You don't just get it you need to fucking earn it. You were not born a high value male and by no means does anything guarantee you won't die childless and having no lover either. Don't find your meaning in life in the partner, instead make your meaning of life to be the beastly male you were born to be.
That's how I see it. That's the one 'red pill' thing I do buy into and has really helped me feel fulfilled in life thinking of things that way. I want to die knowing I tried my best to be the best kind of male human being I could for the offspring and partner(s) I got and maintained. It sounds cringey, pathetic and stupid. I know.
I thought this even before I knew about Andrew Tate who is a poser with 10 women that probably loves 0 of them and doesn't know what loyalty to women even means. I don't mean that. I mean actually trying to get a woman you just can't quite pull away from because of the pure connection and maybe pushing for another and maybe another and making it wonderful for all. If I wanna be alone and game, debate or whatever, even work and have alone time for any reason I want them to easily and happily enjoy each other's company. I don't see how it is toxic, I don't see how it is wrong to want and biologically all the men who probably reproduced most reliably and raised their offspring solidly had this ethos.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Na that type's gonna stay single anyway or get motivated to go for someone else.
Frankly, I couldn't give a fuck anyway. It is in my DNA and the testosterone that burst in me as I grew to seek this life, idk why but I will make it work. Only hard part is actually making it first work well for several months, quietly (as in second quietly) before telling my other relatives and shit. Gotta keep it on the DL until I'm very sure the second is a keeper, then they can't say shit as I will have already got credibility.
I am also not sure you realise people stay single or in broken relationships by settling, that isn't better. I know plenty of guy that aren't single and are toxic af, women too.
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@Lunatic
we massively disagree on moderators (or 'admins'), I have already told you barney is my fave despite what he did to me.
I also am not interested in that stuff anymore. Some time from now, won't specify the years, I will make a website like this once I can seriously plan to fund an ad campaign of sorts and hire a long term PR person and on-and-off expert web developer for the tougher aspects of that.
Only Barney will have a shot at being a mod there, yes despite what he did to me. That is assured.
The rest of the mods here are a joke to me in terms of serious long-term moderation, they don't show sound judgement on a regular basis in their moderator decisions, Barney does and when he doesn't he at least is the one to cut down the time. I bet it is Barney giving whiteflame advice that leads to whiteflame appearing stable long-term.
Either way, I just don't care. Whiteflame is not my cup of tea.
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@YouFound_Lxam
That firstly doesn't explain why the rates of depression, anxiety and all sorts are so high.
It furthermore doesn't mean that is the perfect way. The rates of murder and violence outside of wars are the lowest in Islamic nations actually, check it out for yourself.
I am not sure why that is so relevant to this, I am allowed to seek what I love without it all revolving around my children as long as they are well looked after and raised.
In fact, since you want to not bring in a babysitter or such, if one wife has a really bad period (both that PMS stuff and meaning a period of low mood and anxiety etc) my other wife can become the temporary aunty/mother figure. I will genuinely reproduce with 2, I am thinking 4 offspring. One may be childless if she's cool with it in a 3 woman scenario, that's just talking casually about a serious matter.
All should feel loved and enjoyed on a serious note. It should be fun and fulfilling for all.
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@YouFound_Lxam
No it isn't, the entire Islamic world firstly has proven differently and I know of plenty of toxic upbringings with that combination.
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@Lunatic
Wylted didn't run. He didn't have a platform, didn't let me engage him, attack his platform, attack his credibility or defend my own. He let me think it was going to be a cakewalk so I was like why dig up all his dirt in some callout thread that will look so dirty and toxic and may lose me the election as it will seem unprovoked.
Then he actually runs properly with full effort behind the scenes violating PM campaign rules and bribery rules as much as he felt he could get away with.
I have no reason to be fake nice to whiteflame until he starts banning based on that harsh feedback. I also didn't attack whiteflame there, the entire system is broken, where is Wylted's platform this year? Where could I have fought him?
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@bmdrocks21
I will tell you why I am salty.
This coward pretended he wasn't really running, didn't have a genuine campaign for me to attack, didn't let the actual tearing each other apart and debate happen. If he had done that and no shady gift card bribery, no shady anything, I'd take the L. I did drop out year 1, I can take an L when I genuinely see myself losing.
Instead, he let me have my guard completely down, I never got the chance to expose him or prove I'd be better with any remote argumentation and strategy. He just completely surprise attacked me by tryharding behind the scenes out of fucking nowhere with no platform.
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@thett3
I know you don't tend to look outside politics forums so I wish you will tell me this.
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In the 'western cultures' and really most non-Islamic cultures, it's seen as wrong but why?
If they are happy, satisfied and all of that what's the matter? It doesn't matter what you answer, I will make it work out. I admit I haven't exactly yet but trust me things are under way, I will have a wife legitimately (getting one is straightforward with decent EQ towards women developed and honing in the right type for me, in fact it may already have happened, I am not disclosing that and yes she does/would know I am poly and while we 'fall in love' I do/would/did tone down any seeking elsewhere for a few weeks at least) and a girlfriend that to the other 2 of us is a wife but for legal reasons I cannot do that.
I will admit that I don't fancy them fucking and being with other men in that way but I'm not gonna set a 'no male friends' nonsense barrier. Within reason they can even flirt with other guys if that's their nature, what I ask to you is why is this immoral?
You can say 'omg you're taking too many for yourself'. So you'd rather them unfulfilled and in an unhappy marriage just to avoid being single? I just don't get it.
Why is polyamory of a consensual kind, no cheating, all in on it, all regularly communicating and fulfilled looked down upon?
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And there will be many cisgender men ready with them. I know of drag queens, femboys, butch tomboys and all such even actual trans people against this.
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That is a truly perverted reality, I tell nothing more about it. We are at a level a male is telling they are female even to shower with minors of the other gender of another parent that is not consenting to it whatsoever or pro-nudity.
Nothing is left-wing about that, that is just disrespect and there is no reason a transgender cannot shower with males. If those males are transphobic and do a hate crime, I support the highest penalty.
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If you get banned again, I will argue against the ban even if no one else agrees with me. However, you are making any future help extremely difficult with your insults.
how about yours and wylted's actual hatespeech? you insult entire people such as you with the autistic.
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@Intelligence_06
did you want one?
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@ILikePie5
All his voters were in the 50 pool
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