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@thett3
Well child marriage is having a come back in many red states. Is that what you’re referring to? I have no clue.
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@thett3
Modernity selects for people who reject it? Dude you lost me.
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@coal
The concept of "gender identity" is an illusory creation of the identitarian left.
When it comes to gender identity or gender roles it doesn’t matter. As long as we both agree we should get rid of it.
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@coal
I am gay and I support DeSantis's bill prohibiting teachers from discussing sexual/gender/identity/orientation-related subject matters with children under a certain age.
They and them are the only pronouns they’ll be using now.
Gender abolition is coming.
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Felt like coming up with something.
Fight or flyt cry me a river
Triggering the linguistical quiver
A double edged sword quicker than your finger
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@zedvictor4
An obtuse response if ever I read one.
An obtuse response to an obtuse argument.
Point is, it circumstantially depends.
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@zedvictor4
Do humans fit into this category or that category, or do they fit into a third category.
The answer is it depends on the substance of the conversation. Holistically it could be all of the above.
You can have this conversation about anything.
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@sadolite
It’s okay to find transgender women attractive Sadolite.
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@zedvictor4
Apart from the rare physiological anomalies, everyone else falls into one of two categories.....Egg producer or sperm producer.
Biological sex is more complicated than producing eggs and sperm. Just do some skim reading about chromosomes, genetic variants, etc.
Modern definitions of gender have arisen from the human relationship and recreational sex culture.
Which specific sex culture is leading to transgenderism? Do you even understand what you’re saying? Transgenderism has a historical precedent irrespective of sex culture. It isn’t about intercourse. Transgenderism is not a sexual orientation. It’s about self, not the person you want to sleep with.
Though 2% means that approximately 158.000.000 humans are intersex, which I would suggest is perhaps not accurate.
I was rounding it. From a quick search it’s more like 1.7%. Which you would probably still consider too many.
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Is the basis for racism derived from an evolutionary safety mechanism of imprinting?
Just a nagging thought I’ve had.
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@coal
Gender is the physical expression only of biological sex. There are two and only two genders. There are two and only two biological sexes.
When it comes to biological sex there’s like 2% of the population that are intersex. Meaning they have traits of both sexes.
Knowledge is power.
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@sadolite
The gender debate is just a debate about changing the definition of gender to fit a narrative and a made up concept.
You should take a trap test to see how well you score.
Gender =/= biological sex.
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@RationalMadman
Just keep referring to greyparrot as Parrot. Whenever there’s an opportunity to call him Parrot, call him it. Obviously he has ill-intent. There’s a reason why he blocked me.
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@TheUnderdog
She's pregnant, so killing her would cause the killing of the kid as well. But if it wasn't for that, I would give the death penalty in this instance.
How about adoption and death penalty? You can have your cake and eat it too.
There are people that seek to do horrible things. If they commit these horrible things, a proportional penalty is needed. The female didn’t get pregnant from HER free will; she was pressured to have sex by her boyfriend.Will the teenager or woman be allowed to get an abortion then?She wouldn't be allowed since it would be punishable legally. But her boyfriend faces the punishment for it.
To be clear, this would extend to rape too, right? If a teenager or woman gets raped, she’ll have to go through a forced pregnancy, unless she doesn’t mutilate herself first of course.
Imagine if I said, "The anti rape crowd should focus on ways to prevent rape rather than outlaw it."Rape absolutely should be prevented by reasonable means (tough punishment, encouraging guys that need to watch porn watch porn so they get their sexual urges out on the porn rather than a non consenting woman, but don't castrate every male to prevent rape). Only reasonable things should be done to prevent rape. Outlawing and punishing rape is one of those things.
You seriously think rape and abortion are equivalent? Do you really want to make that argument, or would it be a waste of time?
For an apposing argument it’s more equivalent to criminalising the clipping of fingernails.
Abortion absolutely should be prevented by reasonable means (tough punishment for men that cause aborted pregnancies, free birth control, but don't castrate every male to prevent abortion). Only reasonable things should be done to prevent abortion. Outlawing and punishing abortion is one of those things.
Reasonable hmmm, yeah.
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@TheUnderdog
Yes. Causing pregnancy without consent is as bad as rape and worthy of death.
So if a women uses a man to get pregnant by messing with the condom or lying about using birth control, she should be put to death too?
There are people that seek to do horrible things. If they commit these horrible things, a proportional penalty is needed. The female didn’t get pregnant from HER free will; she was pressured to have sex by her boyfriend.Therefore the sluttish boyfriend deserves the penalty for abortion.If you don’t want pregnancy, don’t have sex(I’m assuming your male). Females are victims of their sex positive boyfriends. Punish the male; not the female.
Will the teenager or woman be allowed to get an abortion then?
How will you stop abortion when women and teenagers will be wanting abortion irregardless of how you feel? If a teenager or woman has no where to turn to, what do you think happens? The pro-life people should focus on preventative ways to stop unwanted pregnancies instead of cracking down on abortion.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Just because I say something you don't like doesn't mean I'm not calm. The fact that you were wrong is why you feel like I'm upset and then I'm not calm. And if you're going to take things personal there's no point to discuss anything with you further thanks for your input.
Saying someone is wrong doesn’t necessarily make them wrong. Did I misunderstand something? You were talking past what I was saying.
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@Polytheist-Witch
I didn't realize I had to explain that the Bible deals with the Old Testament which is the God of Abraham and the New Testament which is Jesus Christ.
I think you’re confused with what I mean, so you’re just spitting out basic facts.
We know the OT is synonymous with violence, but is it because of Abrahamic roots? Or is it something more?
That should be self-evident if you're going to be in a religion form debating religion that's kind of a basic premise you should have latched on too. Because honestly if you're not participating in a religion it really has nothing to do with you.
Calm down.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Islam is based off of Judaism the same as Christianity is. But the god of Abraham is the god of the Jews and Islamics aren't Jews. Not really sure what your point is we're discussing Christianity and Jesus. Just like I'm constantly told not to discuss my pagan beliefs in Christian topics I'm not discussing Islamic beliefs and Christian topics.
Point is, does it matter about it being Abrahamic?
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@Polytheist-Witch
Nothing Jesus says is compatible with the Old Testament. If you follow Christ, Christ not Paul, then you are not following the God of Abraham. Therefore the Jews/people who believe what he preaches will turn on those who choose to continue to follow the God of Abraham and the Law.
Isn’t the Abrahamic God, the same God of Islam?
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@Tradesecret
How can Jesus on one hand bring peace and on the hand tell us that he has not come to bring peace? Is the simplistic answer to this that here is one of the many contradictions in the Bible or is there something else going on?I wonder how many of us have the capacity to think outside of the box. How is it possible to reconcile such statements?
Isn’t this what you call post-modernism?
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@TheUnderdog
Stealthing is as bad as rape and the guy that did it should be killed.
Even if she goes through with the pregnancy?
Lawyers went to law school to figure out who's guilty and who isn't.
I’m trying to figure out your reasoning. I’ll keep it out of the court then.
You’ll be condemning many women to death regardless. Women will seek abortion either way.I said a proportional penalty is needed for abortion, and the man would pay it because it's his fault the woman is pregnant. The penalty can be death or loss of kidney(to save another life) and sterilization (to prevent another abortion from happening). It also can be giving blood to save someone else's life. A proportional penalty for abortion doesn't have to be death.
I said that within the context of banning abortions of healthy pregnancies (no rape, etc). Women will be seeking abortion regardless, which in many cases will lead to internal bleeding/infection/death.
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@Bones
If you wear a sock backwards, everything in the universe is wearing it except for your foot.
First order:
Regardless of how you wear a sock, you’re still wearing it.
Second order:
By similar logic, what about the other foot?
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@TheUnderdog
Birth control should be free and abortion should be banned and punishable by a proportional method. I'd prefer it if it wasn't death, I think that's too authoritarian given the frequency of abortion. But a proportional penalty is needed for abortion.
You’ll be condemning many women to death regardless. Women will seek abortion either way.
An exception is rape (because if I hypothetically got raped by a female, I wouldn't want to pay child support). Similarly, if a female gets raped, she should be allowed an abortion and the man that raped her should get the death penalty.
What if the guy takes the condom off because of reasons ranging from it feels better, to him wanting to get her pregnant, and the teenager or woman didn’t know? Would you consider that rape too? It’s called stealthing. Also how would courts definitively decide who’s telling the truth? Would you sentience that teenager or man to death based purely on anecdotal evidence?
Are you against the morning after pill?
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@TheUnderdog
Have you considered preventative measures of unwanted pregnancies? Or is there something more on your mind than preventing abortion?
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Bodily autonomy of the woman versus sufficient development of the fetuses nervous system and its viability outside the womb.
This is what it should come down to with a healthy pregnancy.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Deb is a sane person
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Under every recent modern Democrat administration, individual liberty has been slashed, and the standards of living for the average American have regressed.Prove me wrong.
It’s been happening since the 60s-70s. Both parties.
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@Benjamin
Soooo:
- Facism is about a single nation and race, the new facism is about the world
- Facism is about a single unelected leader, the new facism is about capitalism.
- Facism is about politics, the new facism is about economics.
Admit it, this new form of facism is so different that any argument against historic facism is harmless against the new version.
They’re two sides of the same coin when it comes to fascistic hatred of Jewish people.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Hope you get better Deb.
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@ILikePie5
Define female sex would be more accurate.
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@ILikePie5
Ohhh so woman is a gendered term and female is a sex term. Got it. I thought it was the other way around tbh.
Woman is a gendered word while female refers to both gender and biological sex depending on the context. This is pretty simple stuff. This applies regardless of where you stand on the issue.
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By the way, does Ted Crus have citizenship in an asian country? If he does, then he could also be considered asian, right? Though there would probably be legal issues.
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@Lemming
Wrong thread.
Ethnicity is pretty ambiguous and so is Asia within the context of the conversation.
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By the way, does Ted Crus have citizenship in an asian country? If he does, then he could also be considered asian, right? Though there would probably be legal issues.
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@ILikePie5
First black woman on the Supreme Court doesn’t know what a woman is. How’d Joe even pick her
Do you know what a woman is?
FYI there is no scientific definition for woman. That’s what she actually got wrong.
She was put in a bad faith position. No definition is perfect, especially when it comes to gender conforming words.
But to give you a helping hand, let’s assume that “woman” inherently refers to the female sex.
Now, how do you distinguish between woman and female? There’s two words for a reason, right?
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Actually.Do you think a horse knows he is in a race?
I would say yes but in a limited/alternate way.
Does a horse know when it’s in the lead? Yes.
Does it put any value on it? Maybe, if it responds well to treats and/or it likes being in the lead for some other reason.
Though I don’t know how much that horse whipping (or whatever it’s called) plays into it.
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Make written deals with Russia to help them transition from being a petrostate without compromising their security. Though this is more of a international thing, not just US.
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So are you a tankie now, or just a typical reactionary conservative trying to be counter-cultural?
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@RationalMadman
By now essentially means up until now or beside now, doesn’t it?
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@Yassine
- You'd have better chances if you had used your brains to debate instead of doing these dodging tactics.
Better chances with what? I was pointing out decadence of your world view when it comes to war and Islam and you were the one dodging.
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@Yassine
- Aren't you tired of hiding & running from debate?
What actually’s tiring is typing walls of information for us to only speak past each other.
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@RationalMadman
I would have heard about it by now if it were true.
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@Yassine
- How does one address another's attempt of shoving a camel into a needle?
With magic?
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@Yassine
- You're trying too hard to shove that camel into the needle. Islam is too high a summit for your moral abyss to even glimpse.
The summit with 72 virgins? Very decadent.
Stay with your primitive tribal systems, please! Although, for someone who loves to talk, why do you always run from debates, huh?
We both know it just turns into who can bother to write more. Most of your replies didn’t address what I said.
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@Yassine
I should have said a theocratic Christian. Unlike Islam, Christianity doesn’t have teachings to establish a theocracy.
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@Yassine
You’re wrong in so many ways I couldn’t be bothered to answer everything.
I responded to you how I would have responded to a conservative Christian.
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@Yassine
- Which part of self-indulgent & self-gratification & degeneracy do you not understand?When it comes to systematic deception.- Smarten up...
Islam is pretty degenerate you gotta admit.
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