Salixes

And trolls who spam themselves. Let's not forget those.

True, but let's just turn the focus away from you for a while and look at the issue here.

I reckon there's something to the concept of dividing religion into two distinct areas, the ones who control and the ones who are controlled.

My particular view is that atheism - is a religion. True it is not an organised religion - it is the quintessential paradigm of a non-organised religion - much like wicca or the older pagan religions. 

But, we have philosophical arguments for the existence of God.

And not one of them is nor ever has been successful.

That is an astute and accurate observation -- the definition of terms and the scope of argument were never laid out properly nor agreed upon which led to people arguing at cross purposes.

If you can't follow the logic of an actual discussion, then step back, stay quiet and let the adults talk.

Do you really find it necessary to continue your belittling personal attacks on others?

Case in point, look what Christianity has to offer, which is an afterlife with Jesus!

Do you have any proof of that?

I see this guy is having a holiday, so can anyone else answer my question?

BTW do the rest of you christians believe what Mopac says about his church being the only church of Christ and the rest of you being heretical?

You said you used to be a theist. That really supports your full-frontal lobotomy claim.

You see, this is where you keep rubbing everyone up the wrong way with your constant misquoting and misinterpreting.

Now, if I were to play your game and and misquote and re-interpret just for the hell of it and to avoid the issue, I could say:

What if there was no butter?

What if you asked.....

or too quietly so......

What if the other person....

Your false binary is still a false binary.

Have you ever taken stock of yourself and actually read the convoluted, nitpicking nonsense you write but never get around to actually addressing the topic? Any topic?
Trust me, it's a lot more fun actually getting into the action.
What if you actually made a qualified statement directly pertaining to the topic?
Wow, and like hooooie!

What do you mean by "work"? Very few things have no utility whatever.

Including prayer.

Yes, prayer can be effective. Often, it is not, and it is we who are at fault in such instances; not God.

Change my mind.

The only difficulty here is the "theistic" part of your condition since nothing short of a full-frontal lobotomy would ever change the mind of a theist. The reason is that in order to maintain an idiosyncratic belief one must wear blinkers, so to speak, in order to block out any conflicting information.

Also, as we know, Churches tell their followers to remain stoic in their belief, and if you do so, it shows that you are a strong steadfast individual, not the weak, vacillating, impressionable geek that brought you to religion out of desperation in the first place.

The fact that you do accept evolution shows that you have peeked through your blinkers and that there is indeed light at the end of the tunnel.

You took the leap of faith which was obviously a wrong move and you have now put one foot forward in order to test the sweet fruits of freedom (reality).
Just bear in mind that if you really are going forward, one foot must follow the other and you will pull yourself out of the religious quagmire, never to return again.

Too bad, this forum could be a respectable place for debate and discussion about a very fascinating subject but we will never get there as long as we keep getting immature posters. 

Yes, you certainly do have a problem there.

My best advice is to try to contain your anger even though someone else's ideas may be contrary to yours.

Definitely one for the conspiracy theorists this.

Though I'm not sure if there is any statistical evidence to support the notion that theists are more likely to panic buy than  people of other conceptual persuasions.

Don't get lost in the "tooth fairy" part, but in the variety of possible variables which create more than 2 possible readings. 

At least you were smart enough not to post in the religion forum right away.

So which of the three categories outlined in point #5 do you fit into?

He isn't even aware that the bible does not give an age of the earth,

Sure I did

Your verbatim evidence that I just presented says otherwise.

Maybe she was a brat yesterday and the tooth fairy decided to teach her a different lesson. Maybe she looked in the wrong spot and there is a 10 dollar bill there. There are plenty of other scenarios. Simply deciding that this means that her request is absolutely ineffective is false.

Try to follow along -- the claim was that there was a "consensus of posters" not a consensus of anyone else or anywhere else. I said I have not seen one of those "on this thread" as the posters do not all have a general agreement. 

Wrong again.
You said:

A consensus would indicate a general agreement and I have not seen one of those on this thread.

You QUOTED the accusation made by a mod. I asked you to support that accusation from within the post linked as evidence by that mod. I have told the mod in another post/thread that his links don't support his accusations and you are incapable of supporting it as well.

But its none of your bossiness anyway.

Can you try this in English?

I’d like to know why my spiritual beliefs are delusion. After all, they’re not linked to any mental disorder, and there are good arguments for creationism out there, and creationism is a belief that is very widespread and popular. But that’s not the biggest issue with your argument that my beliefs are delusion because they allegedly don’t align with reality. Thing about spiritual beliefs and opinions is that they’re subjective, like any other opinion. I’d like to then ask how a subjective statement can be called wrong.

which I pointed out that I had not done and that there is a 

"consensus of the posters is that prayer doesn't work"

A consensus would indicate a general agreement and I have not seen one of those on this thread.

I made that comment in the context of the opening post which was clearly designed to encourage hatred and derision towards those who do pray or believe that prayer is necessary. 

The ethics of the thing depend on if the robot is sentient in my view.

If the robot were to be a male it would not make any difference whether it was sentient or not.

And all the other sites that banned you are also wrong. And virtually all the other posters, including atheists, who think your behavior is poor, are wrong.

...talk down to them in such a condescending, offensive and biased manner.

You know that's you to a T right? Project much?

And yet I just told you that the bible does not say that the Earth is 6,000 years old. The only one believing such deceptive, out of context nonsense is you.

D'oh.

And you being very deceptive again and making it sound like I have it in for Christians just for the heck of it.

Your record of threads speaks for itself.

That statement is hollow, meaningless and displays a total arrogance that everybody should obey the "words" of your imaginary friend.

It is hollow for you. What is your highest authority of appeal? Is it yourself? Is what you believe what makes something true? Which subjective, relative human being do you point to as having the answers to life's most ultimate questions?

It deals with a culture that is somewhat different from ours today but it teaches the Golden Rule, love and what that means as well as going the extra mile for others. Yes, there are all of those negative qualities present because of what sinful human beings do.   

What you are doing could also be construed as the very thing you loathe in those qualities listed.

Or to give hope and make sense of existence and life's most important questions. 

And, such hope is false since there is not one ounce of evidence to justify such hope. Nor do we need religion to make sense of "life's most important questions" Think about it....who the heck ever said there was no sense to life's most important questions? 
You guessed it....a theologian intent of inventing a strawman for his own ends.

He isn't even aware that the bible does not give an age of the earth, or that everything was created as is, or that Heaven is locate within the universe, but he "knows" there is no God.

The Bible does give the age of the earth as approximately 6000 years.

your assertions are largely justified by bias sources. 

Are theists scared of dying?

Or....

Are atheists scared of living for eternity, without end, getting sick of watching re-runs of Everybody Loves Raymond, worshipping a master and twiddling their thumbs?

I don't think you meant to tag me in post #222 as I never said what you quoted.

Quite right, my apologies.
It was supposed to be for Eternal VW.

I'm a religionist and I did no such thing. I concluded that prayer's efficacy can't be measured, proven or disproven.

I don't know how people can expect to act like children with no respect and maturity dealing with others and NOT get the boot. It's a shame we can't have a place where grown ups can discuss a really interesting topic.

Huh, as if you have the right to make such a hypocritical statement after making attacks on those who dare to make arguments that oppose your beliefs.

If you really were here to engage in intelligent, meaningful discussion you would consider people's arguments and answers rather than ignore them just to repeat your assertions. But at least you admit you're not here for meaningful discussion, preach it brotha. 

Maybe if you stop acting like a spoiled, immature brat we could all have meaningful discussions, we are all just people here why all the negativity and hate all the time? Just because someone has a different worldview and opinion than yours doesn't mean you need to relent all communication skills and sanity. 

Maybe if you stop acting like a spoiled, immature brat we could all have meaningful discussions, we are all just people here why all the negativity and hate all the time? Just because someone has a different worldview and opinion than yours doesn't mean you need to relent all communication skills and sanity. 

A consensus would indicate a general agreement and I have not seen one of those on this thread.

If you care to make the effort and look, there is a consensus that does indicate a general agreement in the form of a correctly quoted comprehensive survey further back in this thread.

Hmm, I wonder if one of them could be the guy with behavioral flaws, communication issues and unnecessary anger problems. You know...the child running lose that has no clue?

Too bad, this forum could be a respectable place for debate and discussion about a very fascinating subject but we will never get there as long as we keep getting immature posters. 

That's what happens when you make assumptions, since you assume God doesn't exist the explanations filter through as pacifying. Remove your presumptions and filters and maybe engage in a meaningful way. You never know you might learn something. Why should those interested in religious DISCUSSION have to sift through and endure your assertions and filters?

There's clearly some naive people on this site.

Yes, there certainly are.They are commonly called theists.

And, man, are they common.

I think we need to first look into. 

Does A group prayer work ?

And now you've admitted that they do not invalidate prayer. Trained pro baby.

I've given you enough warning about belittling, abusing and misquoting and other members have also dobbed you in for the same.

You brought up experiments homer. I didn't.

Thanks for finally admitting your claim was wrong.

"Mr. Out of Context" does it again.
I admitted no such thing and in fact validated the claim:
Prayer does not wok.

Accusing people of having boils on their asses for which they refuse medical treatment

declaring you did not intend any honest discussion while spewing insults