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For me, it's usually at the traffic lights.

However, for theists, it must be a daunting choice in selecting the right religion, i.e., the religion that is authentic, making the remaining 9,999 religions false and fraudulent.

So, tell me guys, how do you do it? I mean I really do admire your sense of decision making and there surely is a point after which you have thoroughly researched and considered which religion is the real one.

You would have to have a keen nose at sniffing out the religion that is genuine and rejecting all the other religions that are, well....snotty.


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I am prepared, right here and now to place my reputation on the line and disprove the existence of God.

My pledge is genuine and unequivocal: I am prepared to disprove the existence of God.

So, please, can someone start the ball rolling and present a proof for me to disprove?
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How would you interpret the following? . . . . . . . . . . . "Mary had a little lamb"


Mainstream Religious: Mary ate a small crumbed cutlet.

Fundamentalist: Mary committed bestiality.

Extremist: The mother of Christ ate a sheep while having sex with it.

Atheist: Mary had a little lamb.

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Science has finally been able to detect supernatural phenomena, which includes, of course, God.

I know I know, amazing, isn't it?

Apparently, there are now highly skilled professionals who specialize in detecting the supernatural.

They are called psychiatrists and have labeled these phenomena as delusion.
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As we all know, religious followers have been persecuted ever since their strange beliefs were invented. So, it is no wonder then that the most anti-social of their behaviors singled out is bigotry.

For example, in the 19th century, slaveholders and their sympathizers defended slavery by pointing to its presence in the Bible as evidence that it fits within God's plan for social order.

And so, we hear cries of foul from religious zealots over complaints from minority groups at being vilified. Simply quoting that the Bible or Quran "says so" hardly cuts the mustard nowadays since the credibility of both nauseating works has been shot to ribbons and are both loathed by more people than those who follow their respective "books of rules to live by for the weak and vulnerable". 

Religious groups it seems, are becoming more sophisticated now in their ugly stance against decent, moral society by citing the "right to religious freedom".

A pretty powerful shield to hide behind in order to insult or deride anyone who doesn't fit into their particular "in-group" don't you think?

I just wonder if those who shout out for their self-centered "religious rights" ever give a toss for "civil rights".

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Latest figures reveal that there are now more Muslims (1.8 billion) in the world than there are Catholics (1.2 billion)

When asked to comment, the Pope replied that he doesn't mind coming in a little behind.

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We all like to be identified as belonging to a prestigious institution, for example: "I'm a Harvard Scholar you kneeeoooow", or "I belong to the Bent Iron Golf Club where Tiger Woods is a member you kneeeoooow".

And, why shouldn't we feel proud and boast about our exclusive memberships. It shows to others what we are.
We call this phenomenon "Honor by Association". And, you would generally expect to be identified by the rules and doctrines of these particular organisations. That is only fair and reasonable. 

Church people who are elated by their faith will similarly feel proud to boast their association to their particular denomination: "I'm a Roman Catholic you kneeeoooow" or I'm a JW you kneeeoooow".

But then, if we look at the converse of Honor by Association, we have a phenomenon called "Guilt by Association".

For example: if you belonged to the KKK it would be reasonable and fair to label you as an extreme racist. Walk downtown in your hooded white gown and you will expect to get more than slightly criticised for being a disgusting racist. It just wouldn't make the cut if you tried to wriggle out of your association by saying, "oh no, I'm not racist, I don't go along with that horrible stuff, I am just a member because of the friendship and the cheap beer"

Like heck.

Similarly, isn't it the same with Church groups who are known for their bigotry, hatred and vilification of minority groups?

"Oh no, I am just a Catholic because I enjoy the fellowship and kneeling down, I don't go along with all that bigotry, hatred and vilification that all Christian Churches are known for"

Like heck.


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Reasons To Believe In God:

 * To take control over and manipulate others for one's own self-serving ends.

 * For cultural or family pressure reasons through naivety, gullibility or vulnerability.

 * Out of sheer ignorance and arrogance to satisfy a selfish distorted ego.



Reason Not To Believe In God:

 * There is no God.

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Psychiatrist: As I flip through these cards (with inkblots on them), I want you to tell me what each depicts.

Patient: Well, that's Jesus on the cross.....oh, and that one is Moses......and that's...yes, that's Noah building the Ark.....oh wow, that's Lot and he's............

Psychiatrist:.........OK, I've heard enough. It is apparent from this test that you are a compulsive religious nut and clearly deluded.

Patient: Who me???? You're the one showing me all those religious pictures.

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How many scientific facts have ever been disproven using religion?

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We all know that when it comes down to it, the "Does God Exist" debate is very one-sided in that atheists have abundant evidence, reason and logic in their favour yet, theists have, well, let's face it, nothing to justify their belief.

But wait! Shouldn't evidence be used to determine the right answer, whichever way it goes?

A court of law, for example, must use all the evidence available to determine a case.

It would be unthinkable for a judge to say, "Well, we have all the evidence for the prosecution but the defence doesn't have any yet. When the defence does come up with evidence I shall duly make my finding".

How long are we going to wait for the theist side of the argument to come up with evidence? Another 1700 years?

Or, can we make a judgement now on the available evidence that we do have?

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A man walks into a bar and gets drunk.

So he goes to a church and tells the priest that his name is Jesus Christ.

The priest says, "Prove it."
So the man goes back to the bar with the priest and the bartender says, "Jesus Christ, You're here again? "

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Is it no wonder at all that religious followers are quite rightly referred to as "sheeple"?

Whether they like it or not, religious nuts bring ridicule upon themselves for being naively sucked into believing such completely unfounded and absurd nonsense.

It is a sad indictment upon modern, free and educated society that there will always be those who are gullible, weak and vulnerable and those who take advantage of those traits in exercising control over and making personal gain from "sheeple". 

Wherever you find a heard of sheep, You will always find a shepherd.

If sheep had a bit more intelligence and a mind of their own they would be too difficult to herd and will be left alone. There would be no shepherds and sheep would no longer be constantly fleeced then ending up on dinner plates.

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One hundred years ago, the Bolsheviks; Vladimir Lenin and his followers commandeered Russia and set in motion a breathtakingly cruel experiment in economics and social engineering. Lenin and his followers promised a system that would release the repressed, empower the proletariat against a wealthy bourgeoisie and create a land of abundance and social justice. Communism would bury capitalism.

Instead, Communism slaughtered and buried at least 65 million people over the century and eventually, Soviet communism collapsed in1991. An experiment that was nothing more than an abject failure.

Despite all the atrocities committed in the name of communism, perhaps some good has come out of it. All organised religion was banned by the state and even today Russia shuns religion. For example, Putin was quite forthright in kicking out the Jehovah's Witnesses.

Can western, democratic society adopt the lead taken by Russia and ban organised religion?

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Thomas Edison was thought to have tried and failed over a thousand times before he invented the light globe. It would have driven him (and his family) nuts in the process.

But that's nothing compared to God's mucking around whilst creating the universe.

Although it is to be commended that He supposedly did it all in six days, look at all the wastage.

It is estimated that there are 10 trillion planets and suns in the universe so, the Guy must have been going completely ape making 1. 6 trillion blobs a day before getting the Earth just right.

But, If that's not enough, astronomers have discovered that the universe is continuing to expand at an accelerating rate.

That must mean His Holiness is still at it, wildly lobbing giant atomic bombs and giant spherical rocks randomly into the void at an ever-increasing rate of knots.

Surely, Isn't it time some of you theists, who talk to God, just let Him know that He can stop now, we are perfectly happy with what we have. Otherwise, of course, His attention is going to be completely taken up in His workshop and will be ignoring your needs.

I don't like to say it and this is mere speculation of course but I think that He just might have some other planets with life on them going on.

And when He gets bored with breeding little zoos around the place I reckon He is going to get up to some real fun playing Star Wars with the whole lot.

Don't ever say you weren't warned.

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Caring Sensitive Home School Father: OK children, for supper tonight we are going to have a real treat. We are going to sit around the fire, sipping fresh, warm cow's milk and singing Kumbaya.

Kids: Yaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy!!!!!!

Caring Sensitive Home School Father: You are all God's children and everything you need to learn is right here in this one book, the Bible. I know you have all been studying earnestly, so, do you have any questions?

Kid 1: Oh father dearest, our provider, and protector from sin and debauchery......can you please explain Genesis 19?

Kid 2: Oh father dearest, our provider, and protector from sin and debauchery......can you please explain Exodus 21: 7-8?

Kid 3: Oh father dearest, our provider, and protector from sin and debauchery....can you please explain Luke 16:18?

Kid 4: Oh father dearest, our provider, and protector from sin and debauchery......can you please explain Deuteronomy 23:1?

Kid 5: Oh father dearest, our provider, and protector from sin and debauchery......can you please explain Revelations 21: 8?

Kid 6: Oh father dearest, our provider, and protector from sin and debauchery......can you please explain Genesis 38:7-10?

Caring Subservient Home School Mother: SUPPER IS READY!!

Caring Sensitive Home School Father: OK. I'll just unchain the kids first.

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1) Creates Adam and Eve

2) Creates evil

3) Populates the world through incest

4) Surprised that evil exists

5) Clueless about how to deal with evil

6) Drowns the whole world except one family

7) Populates the world through incest.....again

8) Surprised that evil exists......again

9) Sends diseases, starvation, plagues, tsunamis, you name it

10) Still bewildered at the existence of evil

11) Blames the devil......that he created

12) Rapes a virgin married woman so that she can give birth to himself as his own son so we can torture and kill him/his son so that he can forgive us for being so evil

13) Says, "just joking" three days later and brings his son back to life, coz he is lonely.

14) Claims omniscience and omnipotence

15) Expects to be worshiped for his wisdom

Yup, He sure is worthy of the praise, isn't He?

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Bi.ble
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/buy/bull

Definition: see pronunciation.

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What I am addressing in particular, is the doom and gloom aspect of religion; Christianity, in particular. Here we have a belief that keeps its followers hooked through guilt and fear that if they do not commit themselves, they will be punished in an afterlife with eternal damnation in Hell.
Apart from being a load of unfounded nonsense and lies, such threats are extremely primitive and unwarranted in this day and age.

We then have the bigotry and ugly discrimination for which Christian Churches are notorious for and embarrassingly and obscenely behind the times. It is just unacceptable in today's modern society for institutions to make a stand against the rest of society and the law of the land in the name of God.

Churches have had an unenviable history of oppression, abuse, and corruption. They have shown to be very slow, even reluctant to clean up their acts.

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Perhaps we could build a 100% natural, faith healing hospital ....we could call it "The Holy Hospital of Kindness".

 * Instead of operating theatres we shall have prayer rooms.
 * Instead of professional doctors, nurses and surgeons, we'll have naturopaths, chiropractors and accupuncturists.
 * Instead of drugs we will have holy water.
 * And of course, we would need to erect a morgue that's larger than the hospital itself.

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A list of diseases decimated or eradicated by science: 
* Chicken Pox
* Diptheria
* Measles
* Pertussis
* Polio
* Tetanus
* Typhoid
* Yellow Fever
* Smallpox

A list of diseases decimated or eradicated by prayer:
 * 0
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I just want you to know that there is someone who cares about you.

Not me, but there must be someone.

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Christian Teacher: So, we are all descended from Adam and Eve.

Young Kid: My dad says we came from apes.

Christian Teacher: That's probably true for your family Abdul.

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Adam: Goddammit!

God: Damn what? And what the Hell are you ranting about?

Adam: Geezuz! It's that stupid bloody rule that you made up about not being able to eat apples off that friggin tree over there.

God: Hey, don't start giving me all your self-righteous shite again. It's supposed to be symbolic you know, like real organic, okay?

Adam: Symbolic, schlumbolic, what a load of crap! If you were really serious about leading me unto temptation you would whack a slippery pole in the ground and make a sassy-looking, big butted chick twirl herself around it.

Eve: Okay guys, stop your bleeding bitching and come inside. I've just baked an apple pie.

God: Oh yeah babe! Now that sounds real tempting.

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Q: Why did the theist chicken not cross the road?

A: Because it didn't want to know about the other side.
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For that matter, does God see, does he speak, and does He hear? There is certainly no evidence that He possesses any of these faculties.

Does God read and does He write? Again there is absolutely no evidence of either of these abilities.

Is God computer literate? He apparently has no Website, no email address, no Twitter account, and no Instagram profile. 

So, if we are to accept that God exists isn't it a bit worrying that He is a senseless, dumb, illiterate technophobe?

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Does your personal relationship with God interfere with your personal relationship with reality?
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Father: Hey son, don't you think it's really great that the two of us are driving through the wild outback here in Aṉangu Pitjantjatjara Yankunytjatjara. Maybe we will get to experience some real Aboriginal culture.

Son: Yeah sure Dad. Hey, what's that up ahead on the road. It looks like an Aboriginal guy lying there.

Father: He's what you call an Aboriginal Tracker. He has special highly honed spiritual abilities you know. His religion is The Dreamtime which is the original and only authentic religion in the world. Because he is spiritually attached to the land he can actually listen to what the Gods are saying just by placing his ear to the ground. Say, son, let's pull over and find out what he is finding out. You might learn something here.

Son: Oh well Dad, this is really exciting.

Father: Hello there. We couldn't help but notice you lying there with your ear to the ground. What can you tell us?

Aboriginal Guy: Ehhh well, ya see dat little dot way along there in da distance?

Father: Oh yeah. It must be miles away. I can barely see it.

Aboriginal Guy: Ehh well, dat's a silver pickup and in da cab is a fella an his missus. In da back is four kids an a dead kangaroo wot day just hunted.

Father: Wow, and you can tell all that just by lying there with your ear to the ground?

Aboriginal Guy: Naaaah, you stupid whitey fella. I just fell off da back of da bluddy pickup.
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Thinking of becoming religious in the hope of leading a meaningful, righteous life or are you just a little bit "God-curious"?

Despite the fact that religious organisations such as Christian churches have been steadily losing members in droves over recent years there are still die-hard followers who are only too keen to bring you down to their level and try to convince you with all sorts of devious explanations to join their particular brand of belief.

So, here are a few of the common tricks these apparently over-friendly people will try to put past you in order to suck you into their webs of deceit and lies.

* God is real: There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever, not even a single shred, as to the presence of God or any other supernatural being.

Evidence of God cannot be disproven: Completely absurd since it is impossible to disprove something that hasn't even been proven.

* Existence of God is beyond the realm of science: This is the latest deceptive trick in saying something that is completely meaningless and obvious at the same time since, how would anyone know that anyway? There is no such thing as "beyond science".

* God is love: A completely contrived metaphor designed to appeal to your emotions.

You will be a better person: Rubbish. There have been studies that reveal religious people are no more or less happy or honest than normal people.

You have a spirit and an afterlife: This is the ultimate guilt-trip religious nuts will lay on you. Of course, they don't know there is some sort of afterlife and they are using the "Hell alternative" as a dishonest fear tactic to lure you.

Many people have believed in God for centuries: So what? Many people have believed in all sorts of superstitions such as witches, ghosts, and fairies for centuries but does that make them real?

In reality, there is no such thing as God and we were not created. We know for sure how life started but nobody knows yet how matter came to be. There are many theories but the theory of God and creation has been long since thrown out the window and modern, civilized society has moved on way past clinging onto primitive, naive superstitions.

So, You be the judge and ask yourself the question, "Am I that gullible and impressionable as to believe a load of utter tripe for the benefit of a few dishonest charlatans whose business it is to manipulate others for their own personal gain?"

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We all know that atheism is not necessarily anti-theism (although there may be some atheists who are anti-theists) since atheism is merely a neutral position of being without religious belief.

However, Since it is theists who have devised a belief beyond the norm, would they not have to reject being neutral in order to maintain their peculiar thoughts and practices?

Furthermore, since, in modern civilized society everyone has access to high-quality information and education, wouldn't theists need to go to extreme lengths of rejection and denial of facts in order to keep on believing what they do?

Therefore, theists must surely be not only anti-atheists but also anti-factual, anti-realists and anti-social?

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We all know that evolution by natural selection is an irrefutably established fact.

Not only is there an over-abundance of evidence and proof but there are still more and more scientific findings pouring in by the minute to further broaden our understanding of how we got here.

For example, bone fragments found in Siberia recently from the daughter of a Neanderthal mother and Denisovan father. Show a distinct "joining" of different species leading to our current species, Homo sapien.

A few months ago evidence from Mt Carmel in Israel shows the earliest signs of migration from Africa by modern man around 180,000 years ago.

Scientists are now able to match archaeological and paleoenvironmental records to document behavioral change by modern humans in response to climatic variation. Artifacts show a shift from the larger and clunkier tools characterized by teardrop-shaped handaxes, To the more sophisticated and specialized tools of the Middle Stone Age. These tools were dated to 320, 000 years ago, the earliest evidence of this kind of technology in Africa.

What recent evidence of creation has been discovered?
Nil.
How much evidence of creation to date has been accumulated?
Nil.
Creationists have concocted what they call "Creation Science" which really is not a science but is a branch of creationism. Nevertheless, In the absence of actually finding any evidence these so-called (pseudo) scientists spend their time trying (unsuccessfully) to pick holes or find fault with evolution science.

For example, the Piltdown Man fiasco was heralded as "the missing link" in the evolutionary chain of human evolution. Finally, We could pronounce for sure that man had descended from apes. The fossil evidence was a hoax. And who said it was "the" missing link? A creationist. Even by then (1953) the evolutionary links between species had been firmly established.

The so-called discovery of Noah's Arc in 2007 also turned out to be a complete hoax.

So, Creationists as a last resort will always crawl back to the Bible to try and punch some holes into the watertight evidence of evolution.
"We are really in damage control over the slight discrepancy over the age of the earth so let's try telling them that, Nowhere does the Bible state that the earth is 6000 years old. "

Quite right there guys, However through deductions of the lineage of Adam to the Great Flood we get 6000 years (even less if you allow for the exaggerated ages of people back then claimed by the Bible).

"Ah, Ok then, Let's pitch in with the one day equals 2 billion years concept. To God, that's right since he's been around for eternity and does everything on a big scale. "

Uh, Uh. Sorry guys. A day is a day is a day by any interpretation of the word and the Bible's claim of 6 days is grotesquely incorrect and pretty well puts the seal of "Totally Discredited" on the Bible right after the first few pages.

So, We seem to have about 958,769 pieces of evidence and thousands of authoritative papers confirming evolution and, Wait for it:
Zero evidence and numerous hoaxes and excuses in support of Creation.

If creationists ever disprove evolution (and at this rate it just won't happen, will it) what will happen?
Are they going to claim that "Therefore, Creation is true and God exists"? 

Yes, No doubt they will.

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Well, they wouldn't have fitted into the Arc otherwise.
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Did you know that you are a very special person and that God has a unique blueprint for you?

God cares specifically about you. When you think about it, that is so incredible in that out of the 10 to the power of 24 planets that God created, He chose Earth for you to live on.

But wait, there's more because when God decided to create you, He especially chose one out of 2 million eggs and one out of 100 million sperm.
"Get out of here", I hear you cry.

Apparently, about 38 weeks before I was born, God planned a special cocktail party and made sure that my Mum and Dad were invited. What were the chances then? Wow.

Pretty conclusive then isn't it, that there was nothing random about how we each got here?

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First of all, You need to gather the kids in a classroom.
Then never show up.

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Hey there dudes. Like, what's happeninnnnn?

You learned eons ago that there is no such thing as the tooth fairy and Santa Claus is just a cute hoax even though you go along with it anyway so you can get all those gifts at Xmas time.

But there is still one myth that you can't shake off. Yes, of course, it's all that religious crap that your olds get you to learn every Sunday when they send you along to the local brainwashing centre, uh, I mean Church. And we know why they do that, don't we? Yesssirree, they just want to have a bit of "quiet time alone together" on Sunday mornings.

So, here's a bit of timely advice from someone who had to go through the same dreary routine every Sunday morning.

Get kicked out of Church. Yep; I know, I know that it sounds a bit rad but follow these helpful tips and before you know it you'll be out on your ear from that scary, odd building with the funny pointed roof.

 * Step 1: Fart. That's right. After all, it's a perfectly natural bodily function and the resonance from that hard wooden pew will certainly make a lasting impression on the entire congregation.

 * Step 2: At convenient times throughout the Pastor's sermon, jump up onto your feet, punch the air and yell out at the top of your voice a loud and resounding "Ohhhh Yesssss". If that doesn't work, then go to the next last resort step that's bound to diss the collar off of any Holy Joe.

 * Step 3: Make sure you have your pocket full of marbles and wait for the Lord's Prayer. After "art in Heaven" (they have a lot of paintings up there you know) drop one marble onto that hard, hollow wooden floor which conveniently slopes towards the pulpit (you're sitting at the back, okay). Then, after a while, drop two, pause, then three.
Just as the wishfully indulgent utterings get to the "forever and ever" bit, drop the whole bluddy lot onto the floor.

Before you know, it will be "Amen" for sure so far as your immediately foreseeable tenure at "thy house of delusion" goes and you will be off to the skateboard park or playing Mortal Combat with your mates just like all the normal kids do on Sundays.


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We can all agree to agree that religion has had more than a small effect on society (for better or for worse, most notably, the latter) since its invention several hundred years ago.

So much so in fact that religion was used by authorities to influence the law of the land. And enforcement was brutal. Back in the days of Henry VIII, you would be burnt alive for dissing the Church.
Now of course the only countries that have religious rule are those whose societal and moral standards are well behind the times, and understandably so.

Thank God modern decent civilized society has left religion well and truly behind. Oh yes, there are a few pockets of die-hard Church zealots here and there dotting the landscape but we no longer have Churches influencing laws or societal standards.
Yet we tend to have a few religious “left-overs” still deeply set within the bowels of our modern-day secular society. For example, one would say “Jesus Christ” or “Oh God” as exclamations of surprise. And how about that wonderful drink named after the immaculate birth; “Bloody Mary”.

Those good ole time favourites will probably never go away but we should at least address one anomaly that simply doesn’t make much sense,(not that religion ever made much sense anyway) and that is the use of the words “theist” and “atheist”.
Back in days of yore, the default position was to be “with religion” (theist), and, let’s face it, if you were “without” (atheist) there was a hell of a price to pay.
Nowadays, the tables have changed and we live in a healthy, prosperous, free secular society whereby atheists are the in crowd (with) while theists are the out crowd (without). So, why not change the terminologies to reflect such a societal swing?
For example, being an atheist I’m just a normal guy with no prejudices and certainly no imaginary voices or visions floating around my head,so why not call the default position “normal” (with secularism) and those who belong to the out crowd we would call…oh, err…”abnormal”?

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Every year approximately nine million children under the age of five-years-old die.

That's about 1000 per hour and most of those children's parents will be praying right now for God to spare their lives.

Surely a God who can either do nothing to help these children or just doesn't care is either impotent or just plain, outright evil.

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Doesn't it stand to reason that if God invented religion, there would be only one religious text and one denomination of worship?
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I think that the concept of creation and evolution "co-existing" is a vain attempt by creationists to keep their dream alive whilst indirectly conceding that they have been totally trumped by evolution.

For example: "species having been created will adapt to their environment" and "there is evolution within species but not between species". A new term I found yesterday was "kind". . . . . . "there is evolution between species but not between kinds."

Then there is the vague play on the "consciousness" or "spirit" concept that somehow a creator left everything to evolve but when a human comes about, a conscience is miraculously programmed into that body.

Evolution is an extremely tried, proven and irrefutable science. When will creationists stop trying to take a free ride by jumping on the evolution bandwagon in a vain attempt to gain credibility?

If creationists have any reasonable argument for their cause, they should present their own research and evidence instead of hijacking the hard, Intelligent work done by others.

Creation and evolution have nothing to do with each other, They are poles apart and the twain shall never meet.

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Well, He made everything, didn't He?
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I think it fair to say, and all theists would agree, that when you die you become closer to God.
It stands to reason really and no matter how hard one tries to deny it, it is a watertight, irrefutable statement of fact.
I am even prepared to admit that when I die I will be closer to God.

In fact, I say quite unequivocally that when anyone dies he or she will be closer to God.
Because the fact is, God does not exist.

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Just suppose (well you suppose there is a God, Right? ). . . . . . .
. . . . . Just suppose it is possible to not only tell the sex of an unborn fetus but also, the sexual inclination of that fetus.

Would you get an abortion if the fetus is gay?

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We have all heard the continuous ludicrous, offensive banter from gun lobbyists:

“An armed society is a polite society.”

“The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.”

“Gun control doesn’t work because criminals don’t follow the law.”

And of course, the ever-popular and gut-wrenching pea-brained logic, "guns don't kill, people kill".

Anyone with a brain larger than a pea can figure out that it is "people with guns who kill."

It's a bit like religion really.
Some may say that it is Churches that are bigoted and incite hatred.
Others may say that it is people who are bigoted and hateful.

But, if we put the two together, we could have a deadly combination:
Surely, should it not be: "It is people who belong to Churches who are bigoted and hateful."



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I saw a fire breakout at my local church yesterday so I reported it to the emergency services.

Hopefully, they got my message and did something to help otherwise it will have been a waste of a postage stamp.


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....it would have to have been a totally absurd question.
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......or at least 99.99% of them will go to hell.

You see, there are 10,000 Gods known to be worshiped around the world, each claiming to be the one and only pathway to eternal life and most have some sort of punishment for choosing the wrong religion, or dare I say, for being an atheist.

Such punishment usually takes the form of spending an eternity in a massive furnace where not a drop of water will touch your tongue. You will be constantly prodded and whipped. And you have to endure consuming hot beer, chili dogs and deviled wings. You will also be subjected to watching endless repeats of the Brady Bunch and Celine Dion will be constantly blurted through the PA.

So, really your chances of spending an eternity in a great luxury resort somewhere up there are pretty slim to say the least.

But wait, there's more......

If you happen to be unfortunate enough to be a Christian, your chances of going to the promised land are practically diddly squat. There are about 30,000 Christian denominations and, yes you guessed it, each one claims to be the one and only pathway to heaven.

So, here's my advice to all you God fearin Christians out there with one of them plastic Jesus dolls sittin on the dashboard of your car. You'd better be a totin yourselves down to your nearest lottery store and gettin a ticket in the next 100 million dollar draw. 
Because your chances of winning all them lovely green backs is almost dead certain compared with where you think you're goin when you fall offa your pearch. You can sure as Hell bet on it.

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The standard of morals and ethics among theists has always been called into question.
Is it any wonder, since religious followers adhere to many values that were in vogue in barbaric, crude and less civilized times?

Christian Churches, for example, issue decrees:
 * Telling followers how and when to utilize their genitals.
 * To vilify and incite hatred toward those of minority groups.
 * That those who are diagnosed before birth as being virtual vegetables must live a life of being a miserable burden on families and society.
 * That those with a terminal illness must suffer a long, painful and gruesome death as well as causing suffering and distress to family members.

We can accept however that not all Christians will follow every such repulsive rule to the tee or to the same degree as others. The same applies to normal secular people to some extent. We all have varying degrees of morals and ethics.

Here's an interesting moral dilemma scenario that reveals the degree of morality and ethics that you may have.

A very successful and shrewd Company Director was in the process of employing a new secretary. He devised a cunning way of testing how honest, ethical and moral each candidate was in order to decide who to employ by placing a $50 note on the floor of the reception before each interview.

 * The first candidate picked up the note and discretely put it in her pocket.

 * The second candidate walked up to a donation box on the counter where she inserted the bill.

 * The third candidate had no hesitation as she walked up to the receptionist to hand in the money.

Which candidate did the boss end up hiring, and why?

The answer, which will astound you, will be posted soon. 



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A priest.
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I have taken on board the considerable amount of flack I get for being negative about religion; Christianity in particular..... (However, I do maintain that exposing lies, deceit and bigotry is hardly being a lying, deceitful bigot oneself. One should not shoot the messenger.)
....so I thought I might just pass comment on something good in the Bible. For example, there are many,..... oh well, a few,....ok, at least one great piece of good advice contained in the Great Holy Book (and man, it is so holy you could strain spaghetti with it).

"Thou shalt not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination." (Leviticus chapter 18 verse 22 [1])

Now, let's just unpack these inimitable words of advice, shall we? The operative word being: "lie".

For example. When (as a male) you are out with your (male) mates, and especially after more than a few frothy, cleansing ales you are likely to boast (ok, let's be frank....lie) about the one that got away.
You go home and, wearing your beer goggles lie with your wife, "Geeziz, your tush looks great in those jeans".

So, you just ain't going to lie with your (male) mates in the same way you that would lie with your (woman) wife.

That's a great bit of advice about how we should lie don't you think? And just to drive home the point, let's look at the absurdity of the converse.

You wouldn't lie with one of your mates, "Hey Gary, your tush looks great in those jeans". You could bet a wombat on predicting that you will be wearing your Four X all over your head, not in it.

And, upon returning home you wouldn't lie with your wife by gratuitously carrying on about the marlin that slipped off the boat after a marathon 10 hour battle of reeling it in. Less than halfway through your lie she will have dozed away into the land of nod and you will be certain that you will not get to, er well....lie with her that night.
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To those that participate in sinking themselves to the nuts into (a) man's dirty shit-pipe, it is, I assume,  the most "natural" thing in the world.
So, what if you substitute "man's" to "woman's"?

I don't have the statistics and quite frankly it's none of my business but isn't that what 80% of heterosexual men do?

Then why single out homosexuals in particular?

Why doesn't the Bible simply say "for it is abominable for anyone to go testicles deep into the fundamental orifice of anybody"?

Oh, no it doesn't, does it?

It singles out homosexuals for no other reason than out of ignorance and arrogance.

What anybody does in the privacy of their own bedroom (or bathroom or kitchen or lounge or balcony or swimming pool) is their own business and to single out one group, in particular, is nothing short of discrimination and bigotry.


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