Ironically, this site has such few users because it encourages formal arguments. Reddit and YouTube have way more people arguing in the comments and also way more users.
I actually didn't expect to do so many abortion debates when I started out. But it's an issue that most people are willing to do debates on. Easier to get a contender on abortion than on more obscure topics.
Makes sense. I wasn't sure, so I just judged each song as a whole since nothing in the description was telling me to give the instrumental more weight. The parenthetical included my thoughts as I was judging, but it didn't influence my final decision (since I already preferred Once Again as a whole). I think I also mentioned the vocals affecting my decision in other rounds.
It's an odd strategy for either side because you don't have to argue for the conduct point. Voters generally award it automatically. And even if Pro argues that conduct points shouldn't be a part of DART policy, this debate still uses multiple criteria. Nothing in the rules of the debate says voters should not award conduct points. As a voter, I would be inclined to weigh the rules of the site and of the debate over the opinions of either debater, even if said rule is the subject of the debate.
But as Wylted said, I don't think either side here is going for conduct.
Avoiding as many specifics as I can relating to this particular battle...
My inclination would be to go for whichever side has more "impact" in battling their opponent. Some rhyme schemes might make bars come across stronger than other rhyme schemes. Some references might hit harder than others. Some insults might just carry more weight automatically. (This may be somewhat subjective to each voter.) If I had to write the description over again, I'd have made a clearer scoring metric, but as things stand, voters can use whichever metric or system they think is best. I don't know if there's a typical metric by which rap battles are judged—when in doubt, just vote the same way you would score other battles/diss wars that don't give specific criteria for scoring (ERB and Eminem vs. MGK come to mind).
In the example you gave, I think Churchill does significantly better since the former is just random insults, but that's just my opinion.
I don't want to say anything that would unduly influence voters at this point, so I would say that it is up to each voter to decide which side did "better" given the context of the debate. However they would reasonably interpret the description.
Let me know if this works for you. I kept the resolution the same but specified some things in the description. Just want to make sure we are on the same page with regard to semantics.
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Fair enough. These are always the most entertaining debates.
I was about to say this debate seems right up RM's alley
He has two of them: https://www.debateart.com/members/whiteflame/medals
I know you just got done voting on my other debate, but if you get the chance to vote on this one too, that would be great!
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Would be good to get a tiebreaker on this!
Tiebreakers needed! I know you are both busy, so much thanks if you do take the time to vote.
Is the reasoning in the newest vote sufficient to award source points?
Do you mean 4 days? Or is there a special policy for revoting?
Tbf, the first group of commenters seems more angry about the quality of the song. And it is an angry song battle.
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Both of you have shown interest in this topic. Please vote on this if you get the chance!
Interested to get your opinion on this! Feel free to vote if you get the chance.
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Ironically, this site has such few users because it encourages formal arguments. Reddit and YouTube have way more people arguing in the comments and also way more users.
I actually didn't expect to do so many abortion debates when I started out. But it's an issue that most people are willing to do debates on. Easier to get a contender on abortion than on more obscure topics.
Makes sense. I wasn't sure, so I just judged each song as a whole since nothing in the description was telling me to give the instrumental more weight. The parenthetical included my thoughts as I was judging, but it didn't influence my final decision (since I already preferred Once Again as a whole). I think I also mentioned the vocals affecting my decision in other rounds.
1 hour left to break the tie! Should be easy to vote on.
Argument time changed to one week
Here you go. Lmk if this works for you.
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https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/263543/on-which-occasions-in-star-trek-the-next-generation-has-data-lied
Lmk if this works for you.
11!! is 39916800 factorial, which is greater than 10^(10^7). Pretty sure that's what Benjamin has up his sleeve.
It's an odd strategy for either side because you don't have to argue for the conduct point. Voters generally award it automatically. And even if Pro argues that conduct points shouldn't be a part of DART policy, this debate still uses multiple criteria. Nothing in the rules of the debate says voters should not award conduct points. As a voter, I would be inclined to weigh the rules of the site and of the debate over the opinions of either debater, even if said rule is the subject of the debate.
But as Wylted said, I don't think either side here is going for conduct.
I'd assumed it was an intentional decision in the spirit of the debate. Hard to see Barney throwing away a round for no reason.
No, I really do appreciate the effort. The comment about Best.Korea was lighthearted, but it wasn't meant as an insult.
I loved reading your RFD! I have often wondered if Best.Korea is a genius ahead of his time.
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Avoiding as many specifics as I can relating to this particular battle...
My inclination would be to go for whichever side has more "impact" in battling their opponent. Some rhyme schemes might make bars come across stronger than other rhyme schemes. Some references might hit harder than others. Some insults might just carry more weight automatically. (This may be somewhat subjective to each voter.) If I had to write the description over again, I'd have made a clearer scoring metric, but as things stand, voters can use whichever metric or system they think is best. I don't know if there's a typical metric by which rap battles are judged—when in doubt, just vote the same way you would score other battles/diss wars that don't give specific criteria for scoring (ERB and Eminem vs. MGK come to mind).
In the example you gave, I think Churchill does significantly better since the former is just random insults, but that's just my opinion.
I don't want to say anything that would unduly influence voters at this point, so I would say that it is up to each voter to decide which side did "better" given the context of the debate. However they would reasonably interpret the description.
All votes are appreciated!
I know it's not a traditional format, but plz vote if you get the chance!
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Plz vote if you get the chance!
Let me know if this works for you. I kept the resolution the same but specified some things in the description. Just want to make sure we are on the same page with regard to semantics.
I would recommend defining healthcare and murder in the description to prevent someone from making a semantic kritik based on legal definitions.
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Sure, I've got no problem with that
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