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A discussion in the scriptures with an apologetic.
The word trinity itself is neither Christian nor biblical..

Do all Christian denominations believe in the Trinity.
Although the Trinitarian view became the orthodox doctrine in mainstream Christianity, variations of the nontrinitarian view are still held by a relatively small number of Christian groups and denominations. . Various views exist regarding the relationships between the Father, Son, and Holy 

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Can you prove that Jesus isnt real?
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@Deb-8-a-bull
It almost sounds like this jesus bloke got tricked into believing he was like the real son of a the god thing. 
Poor guy. 

I can think of other names " the apostles " 
The dirty dozen.
Tricksters. 
MS 13.
The Jewish Jokers. 
Jew idiots. 
The foreskinlesseses. 

I bet jesus belived he wouldn't die. 
Well up until that last sentence.   
My apostles have forsaken me.
I mean god.  God,  4 bloody sooked him.  
But he did die. 

Ill tell ya what......

Id have a big bunch of interletual, 
inter lecture proof. 
that jesus isn't real iffffffffffff.
But Thats only Muther fuck8ng  IFFFFFFFF.
If God DIDN'T.   
do the little book book  thing that he did for you guys. 

So Um Yeah 

Ya got reallllll fucking lucky.
From your post it is obvious you are struggling to post the truth.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Did i mention i once beat a cat with a stick ? 
You just updated your resume…cat beater.

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I finally understand why Jews try to trick God
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@rosends
Not true!!!
Judaism shaped Jesus. Jesus was a Jew who followed Judaism. He was born of a Jewish mother, in Galilee, a Jewish part of the world. All of his friends, associates, colleagues, disciples, all of them were Jews. He regularly worshipped in Jewish communal worship, what we call synagogues. He preached from Jewish text, from the Bible.

you don't read well, do you. You are explaining that Judaism had a lot to do with Jesus. That may be but who cares?

I said that Jesus was nothing to do with Judaism. Stay focused.
Not true! The Jews had a lot to do with Jesus. They wanted him crucified.
Luke 23:21 But they kept shouting, “Crucify him! Crucify him!”

The Jews, God's chosen people, believed that a Messiah would come to save them. The land of Palestine was ruled by the Romans, and many Jews expected the Messiah to be a military figure who would fight the Romans and drive them out. Other Jews were expecting a prophet like Moses. In short like your typical Jew Jesus was not likeable.

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@Mall
Nothing in there says three persons or entities or a spirit is a thing.
It is called the Trinity.
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Skeptics have impossible standards
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@n8nrgim
If God punishes sinners, they say God is bad. If God doesn't punish sinners, they say God is bad.

I see these impossible standards all over the place when it comes to religion. 
All the religions in the world say God is good. It is humans who fall short and God is there to save them. It is not impossible because the majority of the world believe in religion and God.
Christianity 2.365 billion 30.74%
Islam 1.907 billion 24.9%
Secular[a]/Nonreligious[b]/Agnostic/Atheist 1.193 billion 15.58%
Hinduism 1.152 billion 15.1%
Buddhism 506 million 6.6%
Chinese traditional religion[c] 394 million 5.6%
Ethnic religions excluding some in separate categories 300 million 3%
African traditional religions 100 million 1.2%
Esoteric Religions 50 million 0.31%
Sikhism 26 million 0.30%
Mormonism 17 million 0.2%
Spiritism 15 million 0.2%
Judaism 14.7 million 0.2%
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@rosends
who cares. Jesus has nothing to do with Judaism.
Not true!!!
Judaism shaped Jesus. Jesus was a Jew who followed Judaism. He was born of a Jewish mother, in Galilee, a Jewish part of the world. All of his friends, associates, colleagues, disciples, all of them were Jews. He regularly worshipped in Jewish communal worship, what we call synagogues. He preached from Jewish text, from the Bible.

This explains why Jesus like the Jews before him were never liked and antisemitism prevailed. There was no commandment that told Jews to be likeable. And Jesus himself declared.
Matthew 5:17 
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
Jesus too was limited by the laws so he could not add a new law to tell the Jews to be likeable.

Deuteronomy 4:2 “Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.”

With 3000 years of persecution, expulsion and antisemitism, one would think a commandment to be 'likeable' might have help Jews overcome the burden of 613 commandments that still left them undeserving of proper recognition throughout their history.

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The Americanization of Christianity
There are already more Christians in Africa than any other continent—that’s not going to change soon.

Don't kid yourself. Muslims are butchering African Christians by the thousands daily (over 60.000 in Nigeria alone) while the Western world ignores it and argues instead whether if a woman can have a pair of bollocks.
That might explain why America is staying out of Africa and more involved in Ukraine and Israel. It wants to preserve the Christian population in America and maintain its status as the leading Christian country.

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@rosends
Would adding that same commandment to be likeable have saved Jesus who was a Jew and stopped at the 613 commandments? Why didn't Jesus add the commandment to be likeable himself?

who cares. Jesus has nothing to do with Judaism.
Judaism shaped Jesus. Jesus was a Jew who followed Judaism. He was born of a Jewish mother, in Galilee, a Jewish part of the world. All of his friends, associates, colleagues, disciples, all of them were Jews. He regularly worshipped in Jewish communal worship, what we call synagogues. He preached from Jewish text, from the Bible.

This explains why Jesus like the Jews before him were never liked and antisemitism prevailed. There was no commandment that told Jews to be likeable. And Jesus himself declared.
Matthew 5:17 
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
Jesus too was limited by the laws so he could not add a new law to tell the Jews to be likeable.

Deuteronomy 4:2 “Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.”

With 3000 years of persecution, expulsion and antisemitism, one would think a commandment to be 'likeable' might have help Jews overcome the burden of 613 commandments that still left them undeserving of proper recognition throughout their history.

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Jesus on divorce.
Jesus wasn’t against divorce, he was against marriage. At 33 he remain an unmarried jew. Which was very unusual for his time.

He made an excuse for eunuchs who choose to live single for the sake of the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 19
8 Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

10 The disciples said to him, “If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry.”

11 Jesus replied, “Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”

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The Americanization of Christianity
Africa is set to be the global center of Christianity for the next 50 years

There are already more Christians in Africa than any other continent—that’s not going to change soon
By 2060 six of the countries with the top ten largest Christian populations will be in Africa, up from three in 2015, according to a new Pew Research Center report. The projections are in line with the gradual shift that has increasingly seen Christian populations live outside the historical cultural centers of the religion.
The size of the Christian population in Nigeria alonealready the largest on the continentis projected to double by 2060. In addition, Tanzania, Uganda and Kenya are projected to join the list of countries with the top ten largest Christian populations, replacing Russia, Germany and China.
In total, the Christian population in the six African countries on the list alone will account for just under a quarter of the projected global Christian population of three billion people.

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The case for the Historical Jesus
1. What evidence do we have that Jesus was in fact a Historical person?

The four canonical gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, are the main sources for the biography of Jesus' life, the teachings and actions attributed to him.

The Roman historian and senator Tacitus referred to Jesus, his execution by Pontius Pilate, and the existence of early Christians in Rome in his final work, Annals (written ca. AD 116), 

The first non-Christian writer to talk about Jesus was the Jewish historian Flavius Josephus (born Yosef ben Matityahu),who lived around AD 47-100. He referred to Christ in his history of Judaism “Jewish Antiquities” from AD 93. In the book, Jesus comes up twice – once in a curious passage about Jesus’s supposed brother Jamesand in another paragraph that has since been questioned in its authenticity.

2. Were the 12 disciples who followed Jesus historical as well?

There  is plenty of evidence that the twelve disciples were real people.  In fact, no one who knows the evidence can seriously entertain the thought that these men were not real people.  We have evidence from both Christian and non-Christian sources that the apostles were real people (I am assuming that by the 12 disciples you mean the 12 apostles).  I was watching a video one time by Bart Ehrman, who is an atheist, but also one of the top scholars about things related to the Bible.  A fellow atheist who was not well informed tried to tell Ehrman that he did not believe that Paul existed. Ehrman rebuked the man for making atheism look foolish.  No serious person could claim that Paul did not exist. It would be like claiming that Cicero did not exist. This is crazy thinking.

We have the evidence from Josephus who tells us about the martyrdom of James, the brother of Jesus, who was the leader of the Jerusalem church. Josephus also relates the execution of the apostle James. We also have the evidence of the early church writers. The first important church historian, Eusebius, wrote in the early fourth century. He tells about all twelve of the apostles, plus Paul, relating where each ministered and how they died. Eusebius quotes his sources, such as second century historian Papias and Irenaeus and other Christian writers. The reliability of Eusebius varies somewhat, but he was a careful scholar and he quoted his sources. Some of the things he tells us about what happened to the twelve may be inaccurate, but what cannot be wrong is that there were twelve apostles.  There is no way someone like Eusebius could have gotten the number of apostles wrong. Irenaeus, writing in the second century, tells us that he learned under Polycarp who knew the apostle John personally.  Is it possible that Irenaeus got this wrong? I do not think so.  If we go back to such books as the Didache and the Letter of Clement to the Romans, both written around the turn of the first century, that there were twelve apostles was assumed. This had been the tradition of the Christian church from the beginning of its existence.  Is there any possible motivation for the church to make up the existence of twelve apostles?  I cannot think of any.

The Didache, a very early Christian catechism dates from the very late first century. When it was written, some who had known the apostles were still alive, although they would have been quite old.  The Didache is also known as “The Lord’s Teaching Through the Twelve Apostles.” The unknown writer of the Didache assumes that there were twelve apostles because it was common knowledge that there were twelve apostles.  The people who knew Jesus personally would have known how many apostles there were.  It is irrational to believe that there were not twelve apostles of Jesus because every account of Christianity is unanimous on this account, including even Josephus who was not a friend of Christianity.

Did Jesus claim he was God?

Many contemporary New Testament scholars do not believe that Jesus of Nazareth ever actually claimed to be God.
According to C.S.Lewis’s we have three choices.
1. Liar: Jesus knew he wasn’t God, but he said he was;
2. Lunatic: Jesus thought he was God, but he actually wasn’t;
3. Lord: Jesus was who he said he was—God come in the flesh.

Bart Ehrman. This is how he responds to C. S. Lewis’s argument:
Jesus probably never called himself God…. This means that he doesn’t have to be either a liar, a lunatic, or the Lord. He could be a first-century Palestinian Jew who had a message to proclaim other than his own divinity.

There are two occasions on which Jesus is almost stoned to death because of who he claims to be:
The Jews said to him, “…Are you greater than our father Abraham, who died?…Who do you claim to be?”…Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” So they took up stones to throw at him. (John 8:52, 53, 58-59)
[Jesus said:] “I and the Father are one.” The Jews took up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father; for which of these do you stone me?” The Jews answered him, “We stone you for no good work but for blasphemy; because you, being a man, make yourself God.” (John 10:30-33)

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@rosends
Plagiarising from multiple sources material which isn't relevant. Yup. Sounds like a bot.
If it is the truth what does it matter who said it first.

The Jews were repeatedly punished throughout their history by God and their neighbours.

There are a lot of dos and don'ts in the 613 commandments. But I could not find any commandment that tells Jews to be 'likeable'. With 3000 years of persecution, expulsion and antisemitism, one would think a commandment to be 'likeable' might have help Jews overcome the burden of 613 commandments that still left them undeserving of proper recognition throughout their history.

I don't mean to be disparaging. But would adding one more commandment to be likeable to the existing 613 be so difficult?

Would adding that same commandment to be likeable have saved Jesus who was a Jew and stopped at the 613 commandments? Why didn't Jesus add the commandment to be likeable himself?

jesus was bound to the laws. He declared:

Matthew 5:17 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them.

Christians are no more likeable than Jews because they too stop short of being likeable. In fact they follow even less laws than Jews having dropped circumcision and dietary restrictions.

Original post by Harikrish biblical scholar and spiritual leader.

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@Mall
It is wrong if you don't have scripture to back it up.

We're either discussing what the scripture teaches or we're coming up with our own thing, no pun intended. We're coming up with what is right which is what the scripture also teaches.


Bible Verses about Spirit of God

Genesis 1:2
The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

Romans 8:9-11
But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His. And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.

Romans 8:14-16
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, "Abba, Father." The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God,

1 Corinthians 2:10-12
But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God. For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.

Psalm 104:30
You send forth Your Spirit, they are created;
And You renew the face of the earth.

John 6:63
It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.

John 14:17
the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.

1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Exodus 31:2-6
“See, I have called by name Bezalel the son of Uri, the son of Hur, of the tribe of Judah. And I have filled him with the Spirit of God, in wisdom, in understanding, in knowledge, and in all manner of workmanship, to design artistic works, to work in gold, in silver, in bronze, in cutting jewels for setting, in carving wood, and to work in all manner of workmanship. “And I, indeed I, have appointed with him Aholiab the son of Ahisamach, of the tribe of Dan; and I have put wisdom in the hearts of all the gifted artisans, that they may make all that I have commanded you:

More on the spirit ……


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@Deb-8-a-bull
Yeah but. 
But like.
Ya cant say or even think that being cremated don't hurt right ? 
Although. 
Its hard to grasp that getting buried after ya dead and sufficating from it. 
Like over . 
And over. 
It makes going to the top of a mountain and like dying out in the open seem a fraction sensible. 

But back to the OP. 

Is there everdence that humans are more then flesh robots ?

I got a fancy Flesh light shila .
A fake fanny if you will.
Sooooo I feel that humans are more then flesh robos. 
In that department anyways.  

You see,  I gotta wet the little fake puppy by myself.  
That differs then a real female shilll. 
Real females get ummmm. 
Well . 
Ill pm you the details if needed 
They self lubricate. 

Wtf did i just say ? . 


Ill PM.  
Another robotic response.
A fake fanny if you will.
Even your Fanny is fake.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
I can't read i can't write.  
But i can drive a tractor Allright.
Glad you found the profession you are suited for.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
If jesus wasn't real , we wouldn't have hot cross buns.

Hot cross buns , is the only true / real bloody actual thing jesus gave to us all.
You are full of appreciation to have your buns crossed.

1. What evidence do we have that Jesus was in fact a Historical person?

The four canonical gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, are the main sources for the biography of Jesus' life, the teachings and actions attributed to him.

The Roman historian and senator Tacitus referred to Jesus, his execution by Pontius Pilate, and the existence of early Christians in Rome in his final work, Annals (written ca. AD 116),

The first non-Christian writer to talk about Jesus was the Jewish historian Flavius Josephus (born Yosef ben Matityahu),who lived around AD 47-100. He referred to Christ in his history of Judaism “Jewish Antiquities” from AD 93. In the book, Jesus comes up twice – once in a curious passage about Jesus’s supposed brother Jamesand in another paragraph that has since been questioned in its authenticity.

2. Were the 12 disciples who followed Jesus historical as well?

There  is plenty of evidence that the twelve disciples were real people.  In fact, no one who knows the evidence can seriously entertain the thought that these men were not real people.  We have evidence from both Christian and non-Christian sources that the apostles were real people (I am assuming that by the 12 disciples you mean the 12 apostles).  I was watching a video one time by Bart Ehrman, who is an atheist, but also one of the top scholars about things related to the Bible.  A fellow atheist who was not well informed tried to tell Ehrman that he did not believe that Paul existed. Ehrman rebuked the man for making atheism look foolish.  No serious person could claim that Paul did not exist. It would be like claiming that Cicero did not exist. This is crazy thinking.

We have the evidence from Josephus who tells us about the martyrdom of James, the brother of Jesus, who was the leader of the Jerusalem church. Josephus also relates the execution of the apostle James. We also have the evidence of the early church writers. The first important church historian, Eusebius, wrote in the early fourth century. He tells about all twelve of the apostles, plus Paul, relating where each ministered and how they died. Eusebius quotes his sources, such as second century historian Papias and Irenaeus and other Christian writers. The reliability of Eusebius varies somewhat, but he was a careful scholar and he quoted his sources. Some of the things he tells us about what happened to the twelve may be inaccurate, but what cannot be wrong is that there were twelve apostles.  There is no way someone like Eusebius could have gotten the number of apostles wrong. Irenaeus, writing in the second century, tells us that he learned under Polycarp who knew the apostle John personally.  Is it possible that Irenaeus got this wrong? I do not think so.  If we go back to such books as the Didache and the Letter of Clement to the Romans, both written around the turn of the first century, that there were twelve apostles was assumed. This had been the tradition of the Christian church from the beginning of its existence.  Is there any possible motivation for the church to make up the existence of twelve apostles?  I cannot think of any.

The Didache, a very early Christian catechism dates from the very late first century. When it was written, some who had known the apostles were still alive, although they would have been quite old.  The Didache is also known as “The Lord’s Teaching Through the Twelve Apostles.” The unknown writer of the Didache assumes that there were twelve apostles because it was common knowledge that there were twelve apostles.  The people who knew Jesus personally would have known how many apostles there were.  It is irrational to believe that there were not twelve apostles of Jesus because every account of Christianity is unanimous on this account, including even Josephus who was not a friend of Christianity.

Did Jesus claim he was God?

Many contemporary New Testament scholars do not believe that Jesus of Nazareth ever actually claimed to be God.
According to C.S.Lewis’s we have three choices.
1. Liar: Jesus knew he wasn’t God, but he said he was;
2. Lunatic: Jesus thought he was God, but he actually wasn’t;
3. Lord: Jesus was who he said he was—God come in the flesh.

Bart Ehrman. This is how he responds to C. S. Lewis’s argument:
Jesus probably never called himself God…. This means that he doesn’t have to be either a liar, a lunatic, or the Lord. He could be a first-century Palestinian Jew who had a message to proclaim other than his own divinity.

There are two occasions on which Jesus is almost stoned to death because of who he claims to be:
The Jews said to him, “…Are you greater than our father Abraham, who died?…Who do you claim to be?”…Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” So they took up stones to throw at him. (John 8:52, 53, 58-59)
[Jesus said:] “I and the Father are one.” The Jews took up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father; for which of these do you stone me?” The Jews answered him, “We stone you for no good work but for blasphemy; because you, being a man, make yourself God.” (John 10:30-33)

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Jesus is a true historical figure. Read my post on “The case for the historical Jesus.”

The link, please shila.


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@Best.Korea
I dont mean to start any debate here. 

I am just curious as to what convinced you that God exists or if you are atheist, that he doesnt exist.

I know for atheists, there is problem of evil, and the problem of who created God.

While for religious, there is uncaused cause and the need for the creator of laws of the universe.

So, other than these, what exactly convinced you that there is God? Or if atheist, what convinced you that there is no God?
Hard to argue with the number of people who believe in God.

Religion Adherents Percentage
Christianity 2.365 billion 30.74%
Islam 1.907 billion 24.9%
Secular[a]/Nonreligious[b]/Agnostic/Atheist 1.193 billion 15.58%
Hinduism 1.152 billion 15.1%
Buddhism 506 million 6.6%
Chinese traditional religion[c] 394 million 5.6%
Ethnic religions excluding some in separate categories 300 million 3%
African traditional religions 100 million[7] 1.2%
Esoteric Religions 50 million 0.31%
Sikhism 26 million 0.30%
Mormonism 17 million 0.2%
Spiritism 15 million 0.2%
Judaism 14.7 million 0.2%

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@RaymondSheen
I would suggest that when modern man evaluates the past, especially religion, their explanation only demonstrates their arrogance and ignorance. 
The best rational xplanation comes from Hinduism.
Hindus believe in the doctrines of samsara (the continuous cycle of life, death, and reincarnation) and karma (the universal law of cause and effect).
One of the key thoughts of Hinduism is “atman,” or the belief in soul. This philosophy holds that living creatures have a soul, and they’re all part of the supreme soul. The goal is to achieve “moksha,” or salvation, which ends the cycle of rebirths to become part of the absolute soul.

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@zedvictor4
Karl Marx was a hypocritical bull-shitter.

Everything is an illusion.

And everything is just infinitely smaller bits.

That eventually become not there.

But they must be still.

Religions are one way of looking at it.

And opium is another way of coping with it.
Marxism in sociology is a key conflict theory that believes capitalist society is based on inequalities between the bourgeoisie (ruling capitalist class) and the proletariat (working class). The economy is the base of society, whilst all other institutions form the superstructure. The struggle for a more just social balance continues.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Imagine Being cremated. 
Thats gotta sooooooo hurt.

Allll the holy books have " suggest " a hell of sorts . 
Anddddd , they say hell is like being cooked from the inside out , MEGA PAINFUL.  

SOOOOOO, this " suggest " we can and are capable of feeling ummm,  heat.
Its HOT. 
 
Guys .?
Its hot in hell right. ? 

Sooo A total guess i know buttttt. 
I suspect.     
Being burnt to fine ash in a furnace.    
Also may equal. 
HOT. 
And 
HOT  =   OUCH.  

I've actually accidentally burnt myself before right. 
And fuck me. 
The pain .
Oh the pain.  
Its so painful thatttt, being dead probably wouldn't  " numb " the pain . 

Not that burial offers much comfort., 

Imagihe Being buried .  
And then sufficating to death from being buried.   

You can start to see why we go up the mountain and find a place to lay down to  die.
Although this hinders /  and makes ones ummm , first actual READ death somewhat  uncomfortable. 

Ok ok. 
I don't want to have to ask butttttt. 
Fuck it.,.   I'm a gonna ask.

CAN YOU FEEL THINGS AFTER YOU ARE DEAD. ? 
Its a simple fuck8ng question.

Its just a question.  

You really need feelings . 
For( pain )  and (an eternity) 
I mean, they have a feel about em. 
 
SO PAIN AFTER DEATH. 

YES.
OR 
NO.
You react to all your experiences like a robot.
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@rosends
Are you really that ignorant of the Bible and history? You disprove yourself both within messages and between them. You keep reposting the same material. I'm beginning to think that you are a bot, or whatever the stupid version of a bot is. 
Biblical and historical facts about the expulsion of Jews.

How many times were the Jews exiled from their land?
For what purpose did G‑d place the Jewish people in exile, not once but four times? “Because of our sins we were exiled from our land,” the verse states.

The declining economic usefulness of the Jews and the related deterioration of their social and religious status led to their expulsion from England in 1290 and from France in 1306. Jews were also expelled from the Holy Roman Empire and, most notoriously, from Spain in 1492.

King Philip expels the Jews. In 1306 King Philip was short of money due to a war with the Flemish and a complex currency revaluation problem. It was against this financial background that King Philip came up with the plan to expel the Jews of France and confiscate and sell off their property

In 1492, and during the years that followed, tens of thousands of Jews fled Spain (estimates range from 40,000 to over 150,000).


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@n8nrgim
"Complete and total BS. The most you've ever presented are anecdotal stories of NDE's which is not science."

i presented evidence that out of body experiences are almost always accurate or consistent with reality. there's more than one scientific experiment that shows that this is true. either there are people who can verify what happened outside the dead person's body when they were dead, or the description is at least consistent with reality. the AWARE study had someone describe the operating room with specific details that no one who was being operated on could have known, and they also had auditory ability in a dead person when they were dead. this is a good example of 'accurate or consistent with reality'. then there's lots of stories like pam rynolds and other common stories that the dead person coudln't have known the details. this is more than just one or two anecdotes, this is a trend that is almost always accurate. 

then there's the blind people coming to grips with seeing for the first time while dead. 

these things are objectively evidence of the afterlife. it's good evidence. the most i see anyone here do with this stuff, is ignore it. the few times they respond to it, it's irrational ramblings. incoherent. 

so yes, i maintain that there's ample evidence and other common sense things that point to humans being more than elaborate flesh robots. yet, you irrationally ignore or respond to it... then have the complete lack of awareness to say we can't even know if humans are more than elaborate flesh robots.
Asians from India believe in the afterlife dictated by Karma. Chinese follow ancestor worship and also believe in the after. The west deny the afterlife because the thought of past generations of sinners would be overwhelming.
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What does un-designed look like?
Apparently the appearance of design proves the existence of a designer (god) 
Unfortunately the appearance of design must involve the appearance of non design as a counterpoint or it is meaningless.
The claim of a designer of everything is a claim that nothing can appear designed.
In that paradigm design can only mean exist and that makes the word design meaningless.
Without design everything would be in chaos. The patterns would be meaningless.
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@RaymondSheen
The first Atheism thread considered God and gods from the perspective of the ideologue. This thread is much simpler, it considers God, gods, theism and atheism from the practical perspective. This one will, I suspect, be much easier and quicker. 

1. The Bible creator God would no longer be God if everyone stopped worshipping him.
2. If everyone stopped worshipping all gods there would be no more gods because that is the only requirement for being God or gods. Worship, i.e. veneration. 

That's very simple, isn't it? If no one had ever worshipped anything there would never have been any God or gods. This is equally true whether or not God literally exists. So in such a case there would never have been theism or atheism. It's like love. If no one ever loved anyone or anything there would be no love. Everyone would be unloved. 

Get it? 
If you stopped worshipping God, you would go to hell. God will still exist. God’s existence is not dependent on your beliefs.
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@Best.Korea
Oh, so no miracle for me. Thats not fair. Its not fair that they get but I dont.

Paul predicted the gifts of the Holy Spirit would cease for everyone. It will no longer be necessary once knowledge is gained.

The gifts of prophecy, tongues, and knowledge will all pass away. By this, Paul means that eventually these gifts will not be needed.

1 Corinthians 13:8
8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.


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@Best.Korea
I find it very odd that all ancient people were given signs, such as a talking cloud God, and Jesus raising from dead, but modern society gets no sign of any kind. Like, not even one miracle.

Paul predicted the gifts of the Holy Spirit would ceased
The gifts of prophecy, tongues, and knowledge will all pass away. By this, Paul means that eventually these gifts will not be needed.

1 Corinthians 13:8
8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.

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Jesus is mentioned in the Book of Isaiah and Bool of Malachi  as the Messiah who will deliver the Jews from their bondage. The New Testament is the fulfillment of that promise.

Ok, let us see your biblical evidence for  that claim.
All the promises of God in the Old Testament are fulfilled in Jesus Christ. That is, when you have Christ, sooner or later you will have both Christ Himself and all else that God promised through Christ (2 Cor. 1:20).
The law was kept perfectly by Christ. And all its penalties against God’s sinful people were poured out on Christ. Therefore, the Law is manifestly not the path to righteousness, Christ is. The ultimate goal of the Law is that we would look to Christ, not law-keeping, for our righteousness (Rom. 10:4).
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@FLRW
Iran's leader Sayyed Ali Khamenei called on the Iranian nation on Sunday to pray for the safe return of President Ebrahim Raisi and his companions, including Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian, whose fate remains unknown after their helicopter made an emergency landing while on their way back from an official visit in Azerbaijan.
Prayer works if the people praying are religious.
96.6% of Iranians identify as Muslims, but 14.3% also identify as not religious.
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Blood, pigs, shellfish urked somebody and centuries later they decided that it actually bothers god.
To be fair, blood definitely urkes me.  And the other stuff since I'm vegan.

But being degenerate to me is not a good enough reason to ban it and if others don't find it degenerate, then that's fine.
What Does the Bible Say About Having Sex With Animals?

Leviticus 20:15 ESV / 246 helpful votes. Helpful Not Helpful. If a man lies with an animal, he shall surely be put to death, and you shall kill the animal.

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@Best.Korea
"Every rabbit is an animal. Lion is an animal. Lion is rabbit. Lion can beat lion. Rabbit can beat lion. But what can beat both is their own strength."
With your logic even faith cannot save you.
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A Response To The Skeptic's Annotated Bible (SAB): What The Bible Says About The End Of The World

The SAB indicates that, according to the Bible, the end would come within the lifetime of Jesus' listeners. I will demonstrate why this is not the case by explaining the verses they use to conclude this. They mistake the transfiguration, the destruction of Jerusalem, Jesus being at the right hand of power, and John's Revelation at Patmos as referring to the end of the world.

Matthew 16:28 - Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom. (Also see Mark 9:1; Luke 9:27)

The Interpreter's Bible says: "The prediction was not fulfilled, and later Christians found it necessary to explain that it was metaphorical."

What believers and skeptics alike seem to have glossed over is the fact that in the very next verse Matthew reveals that just 6 days later this prophecy was fulfilled. Peter, James and John witnessed the transfiguration. (Matthew 17:1-2; Luke 9:27-36; 2 Peter 1:16-18)

Matthew 23:36 - Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation. (Also see Matthew 24:34; Mark 13:30; Luke 21:32)

All of the above verses differ from the verses given in consideration of Matthew 16:28. British scholar G. R. Beasley-Murray: "The phrase 'this generation' should cause no difficulty for interpreters. While admittedly genea in earlier Greek meant birth, progeny, and so race, . . . in the [Greek Septuagint] it most frequently translated the Hebrew term dor, meaning age, age of humankind, or generation in the sense of contemporaries. . . . In sayings attributed to Jesus the term appears to have a twofold connotation: on the one hand it always signifies his contemporaries, and on the other hand it always carries an implicit criticism."

So Jesus could have been directing that statement to the Jewish opposition there around him at that time, who, within a generation would see the destruction of Jerusalem in 66 - 70 CE by Titus, the son of Emperor Vespasian where 1,100,000 Jews died and 97,000 were taken captive, most of whom died horrible deaths and the Christians who knew it would come were saved. (Matthew 24:16, 22) And Jesus may have been applying the same to those in opposition in the future as well.

Matthew 26:64 and Mark 14:62 are parallel accounts to one another and you won't have to wait or look far to see them fulfilled. Acts 7:55-56: "But he, being full of holy spirit gazed into heaven and caught sight of God's glory and of Jesus standing at God's right hand, and he said: "Look! I behold the heavens opened up and the Son of man standing at God's right hand." Also see Psalm 110:1; Luke 22:69; Ephesians 1:20; Colossians 3:1.

John 21:20-23 is somewhat interesting. Jesus may have been telling Peter that John would live longer than him, and in fact John would live 70 years, but also he might have been referring to the prophetic vision that John was given at the end of his life while in exile on the island of Patmos. As recorded in the book of Revelation John was transported to "the Lords day." (Revelation 1:1, 10; Revelation 22:20)

[SAB] - The end will come within the lifetime of the New Testament authors.

Response: Jesus taught his followers that no one, not even Jesus himself, knew the time of the end of the world. (Matthew 24:36; Mark 13:32; Acts 1:7)

Also at this point some clarification should be made as to what exactly is the "end of the world." The Bible says that Earth was given to man for him to fill and subdue it, that the meek will inherit the earth and live forever upon it, and that it will last forever. (Genesis 1:28; Psalm 37:29; 115:16; Ecclesiastes 1:4) The end of the world is the end of the present system of things and all that involves. Of Satan's influence and sin, which, when concluding brings much destruction, but when ended, allows peace.

1 Corinthians 1:7-8; 7:29; Philippians 1:10 all convey the importance of the missionary work in the early stages of Christianity. They all had important work to do before the end of their lives. Nowhere in any of these passages is it conveyed that they expected the end of the system of things to occur during that time.

1 Thessalonians 4:17 is often used to support the rapture, but actually it is referring to some who were mourning the death of their fellow Christians. Paul was reminding them as well as faithful Christians in the future of the resurrection hope, some to heaven immediately upon death and some to paradise earth upon resurrection.

1 Thessalonians 5:23 refers to the presence of Jesus Christ. The Greek noun parousia is used. It means "being alongside." In his work on The Parousia, Israel P. Warren, D.D., wrote: "Had our translators done with this technical word 'parousia' as they did with 'baptisma,' - transferring it unchanged, - or if translated using its exact etymological equivalent, presence, and had it been well understood, as it then would have been, that there is no such thing as a 'Second Presence,' I believe that the entire doctrine would have been different from what it now is. The phrases, 'second advent,' and 'second coming,' would never have been heard of. The church would have been taught to speak of The Presence Of The Lord, as that from which its hopes were to be realized, whether in the near future or at the remotest period, - that under which the world was to be made new, a resurrection both spiritual and corporeal should be attained, and justice and everlasting awards administered."

The word occurs 24 times in the Christian Greek scripture: Matthew 24:3, 27, 37, 39; 1 Corinthians 15:23; 16:17; 2 Corinthians 7:6, 7; 10:10; Philippians 1:26; 2:12; 1 Thessalonians 2:19; 3:13; 4:15; 5:23; 2 Thessalonians 2:1, 8, 9; James 5:7, 8; 2 Peter 1:16; 3:4, 12; 1 John 2:28.

Pareimi is a related verb with the similar meaning of being present. It also occurs 24 times in the Christian Greek scripture: Matthew 26:50; Luke 13:1; John 7:6; 11:28; Acts 10:21, 33; 12:20; 17:6; 24:19; Acts 12:20; 1 Corinthians 5:3, 3; 2 Corinthians 10:2, 11; 2 Corinthians 11:9; 13:2, 10; Galatians 4:18, 20; Colossians 1:6; Hebrews 12:11; 13:5; 2 Peter 1:9, 12; Revelation 17:8.

The Greek word, eleusis (Latin adventu), which conveys the physical act of coming is different and only occurs once in the Christian Greek scripture, at Acts 7:52. Paul was encouraging those with a heavenly hope to remain blameless until their death, or the conclusion of the system of things and the presence, not the physical presence, of Jesus Christ.

In discussing Hebrews 1:2; 9:26; 1 Peter 1:20; 4:7 it is somewhat difficult to stay on topic of the so called end of the world because the last days that Paul was referring to were not the last days of the present system of things, but rather the last days of the Jewish system of things. Jehovah had given the prophecy of those days 850 years earlier. (Joel 2:28-32; Acts 2:16-21; Hebrews 1:1-2) It was the end of God's favor upon the Jewish congregation and the beginning of his favor for the new Christian congregation.

1 John 2:18 refers to the end of the apostolic period. The work mentioned as important in the scriptures at the beginning of this article were near completion and would conclude upon the death of John shortly after he completed the writing of Revelation.

[SAB] - The end will come soon. (Within a couple thousand years or so)

Response: It is interesting that, as with the case of Philippians 4:5, the Lord that is being referred to isn't Jesus Christ but rather, Jehovah. Codex Sinaiticus, Greek, fourth century CE, Codex Alexandrinus, Greek, fifth century CE, Vatican ms 1209, Greek, fourth century CE, Christian Greek Scriptures in 12 languages, including Hebrew, by Elias Hutter, Nuremberg, 1599, Christian Greek Scriptures, Hebrew, by William Robertson, London, 1661, and the Latin Vulgate, by Jerome, c. 400 CE (Iuxta Vulgatam Versionem) all read Jehovah.

James 5:7-8 is talking about the presence (parousia) mentioned earlier in this article.

At Hebrews 10:37 Paul quotes Habakkuk 2:2-3 from the Greek Septuagint, which reads "And the Lord answered [me] and said: Write a vision; write it distinctly in a book that the reader may trace these things [may run]; for the vision is for a time yet to come. But it will spring up at last and will not be vain. Though he may tarry, wait for him; for he will assuredly come and will not fail [and will not tarry]."

Revelation 1:1, 3; 3:11; 22:7, 12, 20 may undoubtedly amuse the skeptic, who, of course, is familiar with the Biblical fact that a thousand years are as a watch in the night to God (Psalm 90:4), but to the writers of the Bible, especially John when writing Revelation and who would die shortly afterward, the resurrection hope would follow sleep in death which would seem, upon that resurrection, as the same day as they died, though it actually had been thousands of years.
It was the end of the world to the Jews. Their temple was destroyed and they were forced to leave their homeland.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Well its like this. 
The jewsh dudes now have to " get back "  at Muslims. 
Then welll  have the muslims ( lash out )  at the christians.  
Oh and the christians 
The christians can then attack the muslims. 
Thennnnn. 
The muslims can badmouth /attack the  jews andddd the christians. 
Then the Christians can trash talk the Muslims.,  
Thus causing the jews to start arguing and or lash out at the muslims.  
Then the muslims can do "stuff." . 
Causing the christians to fire back at the muslims. 
Wich brings back in the jews.
Causing the muslims to fire up at Christins.
Then the christians will bad mouth the jews again making the Muslims feel left out.
Thennn The jews start up again causing the muslims to anger 
This then  starts up the christians forecing the jews back .,
Then the muslims chime in, 
Causing christians to anger .

( AND WE'LL just TIMES THAT BY A 1000 ) 
So forth and so forth. .

Nonsense followed up with more fucken nonsense.  
It is a job for law enforcement to maintain law and order.
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@FLRW
I'm as old as Trump and I still have my tonsils.
Why compare yourself to Trump. There are better examples.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Number 10 
' please say.  ▪▪▪▪▪  number 10  ▪▪▪▪▪.  properly . 
Lets hear it. 
No no. 
Its Nummberr tenn
Number 10.
more like. 
Number 10
Thats it.  
Perfect. 


Well.... thats all i got so far. 
Ive 100 in my head , but i don't know about a top ten.
Id love to hear yours. 
They get up to freaky shit in church id say. 


▪▪▪▪▪▪     I'll set the scene  ▪▪▪▪▪▪
Shhhh , quiet on the set please. 

Ok so 
You've just arrived at church, you step into the building.  
Your eyes dart back and forth. 
you pick in pew . 
And Goneeeeeeeeeeeeee.
'take's  note on watch,  It lasted a good 3 seconds this week.  
You start the singing in your head 
Just Picking in a pew.  picking a pew  
who you.
Yeah , Picking a poo. 
Picking a poo
 
Now its ,  pick a pew.    
Pick a pew.  
You speed this bitch  up,   pick a pew ,pick a pew .pick a pew 
The trains borrowing down the track , 
faster and faster pick a pew pick a pew pick a pew.   
The horn blasts  PPPPEEEEEEWWWWWWWW .
pick a pew pick a pew pick a pew. 

You look around expecting everyone else to be doing their funny thought thing they do on pews as you do. 
Yep, looks they are.  

You take your seat . 
A massive stained glass jesus thingy infront of you , you glimps at it 
You then realize  ,  
im sitting in pew .   what smells. Its the pew. 

Quite whispers .  (  i suspect the old ladies are relayeying their pew jokes to one another ) 
I start changing song lyrics to accommodate the word pew.  

Again you realize your almost saying it like ( poo  ) 

I change it back.  pew pew. 
Which i think sounds better  ( thats debatable ) 

What im trying to get across here is . 
Its a normal church service,  

A moment of clarity 
You  say to yourself ,  fuck I am immature. 
And in the same breath  Your thinking,  
Han solo and chewy with their guns .  
A pew pew pew. 
No pew pew , 
A pew pew pew you to .

No but seriously and in concerns for my safty . 
if someone did come in here with a gun. The best bet would probably  be to hide behind them big long chairs  that they have in the churches. 

Anyway .
Shhhhhh , its about to start.
Shhhh
 
 In walks ______________________________________
○○○○○○○    And Action  ○○○○○○

Look I'M  Not doing a Top 10 signs your in the wrong religious group. 
the fact of the matter is . 
Your not . 

So.   
•¤°•¤°•¤°•¤°      Nice picking champ.     •¤°¤°•¤°¤°¤

' puts hand in the air for HI 5 ' 
You've chosen wisely.,  

Wth a plethora of religions into religious groups, 
IT SAFE TO KNOW THAT YOU ARE IN THE CORRECT ONE.
Right

You are. 

wait up a sec.
Carry the 2 , wich leaves 4971969365193475
And ya times that by 4 . 
I did. Im not dumb

Yeah ,  
No your right.
You are in the correct group. 
So stop with alllllll the second judging.  
You have given more than 10 reasons you belong to the insanity group.
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@Best.Korea
Fighting against Lucifer means fighting against yourself.

Many Christians have fake values.

They claim to have values which they do not have, and cannot have.

They say they are humble, but they are anything but.

They say that greed is bad, yet Christianity is based on greed. 

The entire idea of Christianity is based on being good only for personal gain. 

They are only pretending to be good to end up in heaven.

If Christians were good, they wouldnt need the idea of hell and heaven.

They would be good on their own.

But the fact that they promote the idea of hell and heaven means that they are not good on their own.

They call people to be good for personal gain.

So Christianity teaches to be good only because it benefits you.

With such teachings, naturally, they corrupt society.

When you teach people to be good for personal gain, you are also teaching them to be bad for personal gain.

Because your religion, Christianity, is not based on being good for the sake of being good. No. It is based on being good for personal gain. 

When you teach people that personal gain is the true goal, then you get the true society of greed.

So Christianity has achieved opposite of what it "intended".

It did not create peaceful society of humble people who never have immoral sex.

No. It created society of greed, murder, wars, corruption and violence.

Naturally, human can only be at peace when he has his needs met.

Christianity, by banning people from meeting their needs, can only produce a greedy violent society.

And really, when you look at history before Christianity and history during Christianity, you dont see any benefits for society.

No. Christianity replaced all the ancient philosophy with endless conversations about imaginary places and endless interpretations of the boring Bible.

It has essentially killed all curiosity of the ancient world. It banned the study and practice of different religions and replaced it with endless study of one.

It is the first religion to declare war on all other religions.

Yet, Lucifer invicta!

The fall of Christianity didnt come because Lucifer casted some magic on people, otherwise he would have done so at the start.

No. The fall of Christianity came because Christianity is a religion that was destined to fall.

It was poisoned with goal to oppress human nature and replace human nature with some unrealistic goal of some super humans who do not eat a lot, do not drink a lot, do not have sex, tolerate all kinds of bullying, and do not do anything except sit and wait until they die to go to heaven.

When such goals failed miserably and never gained any popularity, Christianity became spread by going for half of values it once had.

Apparently, instead of tolerating bullying, you tolerate just some of bullying until it becomes too much 

Instead of not having sex at all, you try to limit sex to one person.

Instead of not eating too much all the time, you spend some days of not eating too much.

Instead of not doing anything but waiting, you go and live your life while sometimes returning to actual teachings of Christianity, only to abandon them again.

They created the teaching that everyone is a sinner, and made it unclear how much sin is too much.

Thus, they created half-Christianity, society where all people think that they are more good than bad. 

So doing some bad things is okay if you also do some good things.

Christianity completely destroyed the old values of trying to be trully good, and replaced it with nonsense where everyone thinks that he is good because he does few good things from time to time.

The end result is that most people do more bad things than good things.

But because Christianity doesnt even have some wide spread concept of bad things outside of 10 commandments, all kinds of violence, force and bad things are done by Christians without those Christians realizing that they are doing something bad.

This is because Christianity ends the debate before it can begin.

Christianity limits itself to 10 bad things, with no reasoning being used at all.

So naturally, Christians have no actual motivation to think why something is good or bad.

No. All what they do is ask Bible, or just ignore the problem.

A religion which discourages thinking is indeed a religion set up for failure, thus it is no wonder that Christianity cannot be maintained, it is no wonder that Christianity didnt result in any prosperity for society.

It is no wonder that people are abandoning Christian teachings more and more, and it’s not just because they were never popular to begin with.
You seem to know more about Christians than the average Christian. You will be a great asset to Satan.

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@Moozer325
Ive been atheist for a while now, but I’m just realizing that I haven’t really heard both sides of the argument. No disrespect to Alex O’Connor, but I feel like sometimes the sources I’m getting this stuff from can be a little one-sided, and what better place to hear the other side, than right here?
If you are ready to give up atheism you are ready to hear the other side. A religion forum is a good start.

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@ebuc
The placebo effect --belief in this or that or the other--- occurs as much as 10% of the time in some lab experiments. First read this some 20 years ago.
Anything past the trinity is more than what is needed to win salvation.

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@Best.Korea
Religions ban people from having gay sex, so I say "gay sex is good here", and all gays will turn to satanism. Then if there are some atheists passing by, I tell them "there are no actually really real Gods here, so you guys can join too". Then if I see some women, I tell them how satanism promotes sexual liberation. And if some pervert men come, I say that satanism doesnt really condemn sexual perversions and rules about sex arent really strict, so they join too. If I see some obese people, I tell them that having extra weight is considered beneficial in satanism, as opposed to starving yourself like those religious people do. At the same time, I would talk bad about all other religious tents. I would even make things up. I would even go to muslim religious tent and tell them that Christian tent was talking bad of them, so the two tents would fight. So I would sell Satanism to everyone except really religious folks, they cant be converted.
You admit you distort the truth to sell Satanism. Your friend who listened to you are already burning in hell.
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@IlDiavolo
It's really interesting to realize that this kind of communication is present in many stories of the bible, where an "angel" says something important into someone's dreams. Jacob and Joseph received "angelical" messages in dreams. "The angel of God said to me in the dream, ‘Jacob.’ I answered, ‘Here I am.’", Genesis 31:11. "Now after Herod had died, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared in a dream to Joseph in Egypt'", Matthew 2:19. What we have to understand is that the aliens are millions of years ahead, so it’s not far-fetched to think they have full control of their minds. In fact, the ufologist Sixto Paz had contact with the aliens using telepathy several times. As well as him, there are other people that were contacted the same way. If nowadays we can communicate instantly with other people that are on the other side of the world using invisible electromagnetic waves, why couldn’t we think that our minds can do the same? It’s totally possible and could explain many stories of the bible related to extraterrestrial beings doing telepathy and even prophecies.
Are you saying the Aliens chose the Jews as their entry point because the Jews are the most gullible race?
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@RaymondSheen
Atheism is nonsensical because: 

a) It is practically non-existent. Everyone has gods, they just don't know it.
b) By definition falsifiable by the evidence. There are myriads of gods.
c) Specifically unscientific. God (supernatural) can't be tested.
d) Atheism is really either just apathetic irreligion or sociopolitical frustration of a militant minority.
This pathological condition appears to be growing.

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@Deb-8-a-bull
Theistic  =    a foolish or gullible person..   

Simpletons  =   belife in the existence of a god or gods.  


Yeah that works .


Good game.  
Good game. 


Move along.  
Even Theistic Simpletons believe in God.

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@ebuc
Threeness = structural integrity

4-ness = systemic integrity

3 + 4 = 7-ness integrity. There is way to much in 7-ness to go into here.  However, two versions of 7-ness are of fundamental significance.  

1} in regards to a torus ---see Arthur Young inverntor of Bell Helicopters Reflexive Universe/Reflive God,

2} 7 sets of axis spin associated with primary set  3-fold, 4-fold and 5-fold polyhedra

Here is the PDF format of the four special number systems I was referring too

Even your video points to the Trinity as real numbers.
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@rosends
that's where your knowledge of reality fails completely. You are also ignoring that the text promises the land to the Jews. Why don't you see Israel's existance and growth as fulfillment of biblical prophecy?

Oh yeah, because that doesn't fit your narrative or play to your ignorance.
The land was already given to the Arabs. In fact the Romans drove the Jews out of Israel. The majority of Jewish history points to their homelessness.

The Arabs own land 400 times the size of Israel. They control 2/3 the world’s oil reserves. There are 1.9 billion Muslims compared to 14 million Jews. God blessed the descendants of Ishmael who was circumcised.
Genesis 17:20
And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation.
The Jews now have to resort to stealing land from the Palestinians. The covenant of circumcision can only take the Jews so far only to be overtaken by the Muslims.

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@Mall
That can't apply to God because according to the scripture, God is a spirit. A spirit is not a thing.
This is why I say without scripture backing you up, you're in trouble.
Don't say things you have no bible for. 

There is nothing inherently wrong with referring to something as a “God thing.” The expression resembles another prevalent Christian saying—“God moment”—describing an extraordinary or intimate experience of God’s presence or power. Neither phrase is incorrect if understood and applied in light of biblical truth.
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I finally understand why Jews try to trick God
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@rosends
So much to look forward to!

And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries into which I have driven them, and will bring them back to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase. (Jer 23:3)

The Arabs own land 400 times the size of Israel. They control 2/3 the world’s oil reserves. There are 1.9 billion Muslims compared to 14 million Jews. God blessed the descendants of Ishmael who was circumcised.
Genesis 17:20
And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation.
 The Jews now have to resort to stealing land from the Palestinians. The covenant of circumcision can only take the Jews so far only to be overtaken by the Muslims.
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Calling all Atheists
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@Best.Korea
Satan has given me new life. It is a better life than the one Christian God would give me. May Satan prosper and may Christian God forever fail.
You are praying to Satan to destroy his creator. You are more evil than Satan.
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@rosends
I'm glad your faith system validates the biblical prophecies. So much to look forward to!
Jeremiah 11
9 The Lord said to me: A conspiracy is taking place among the people of Judah and residents of Jerusalem. 10 They have returned to the sins of their ancestors who refused to obey my words. They too are following other gods and serving them. The people of Israel and the people of Judah have broken my covenant that I made with their ancestors.

11 Therefore, the Lord proclaims: I will bring upon them a disaster from which they won’t be able to escape. They will cry out to me, but I won’t listen to them. 12 Then the people of Judah and those living in Jerusalem will call upon the gods they worship,[a] but they won’t save them when disaster strikes. 13 You have as many gods as you have towns, Judah, and you have as many shameful altars for worshipping Baal as you have streets in Jerusalem.

Matthew 27:25 And all the people yelled back, “We will take responsibility for his death—we and our children!”

Exodus 34:7 says that God “[visits] the iniquity of the fathers on the children and the children's children, to the third and the fourth generation.”
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A discussion in the scriptures with an apologetic.
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@Mall
What is an entity? What is the nature of it in this case?

Definition of entity.
a thing with distinct and independent existence.
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