Shila

Might the octonions hold secrets of the universe?"..

https://www.quantamagazine.org/the-octonion-math-that-could-underpin-physics-20180720/

It also confirms as I explained above.  It appears that Islamic culture has been allowed to override UK law and nobody gives a fk including the  UK  Government that outlaws the practices of other foreign cultures.

Nothing to do with the topic in question.  The point of this thread has been made clear for those that can actually read and understand what is written. See the bold underlined in my quote above

Or would you like it in italics too?

God did which is why there are still Jews here and there. You keep ignoring the most obvious "why" answer -- the one the text attests to: idolatry.

Seriously, you are getting your stupidity mixed into your hate and it is just making you look worse and worse.

Third { lost } and most important type of memory according to someone{s} who state the info in this Utube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCkPxtoMcDE

Most famous band ever had no less than four musicians.  Ex the Beatles

Their song Ballard of John and Yoko ...Christ you know aint easy... was banned from early banned from public radio stations cause they used the word Christ. Illogical, lack of common sense critical thinking evangelical conservatives then and today.

Even my friends on Earth suffer. God is a cruel monster. There is no reason to serve God.

There is no reason to trust the Bible. We have eyes. We see that world sucks.

And the cessation of prophecy (about 320 before the common era, not 450) had no effect on Jews' preserving their knowledge of God. They had both written texts and orally transmitted laws. They practiced their religion well beyond "dieting" and circumcision. Do you even have a point to make or are you just a rnadomly firing shotgun, hoping that one pellet will land?

That sounds like Christian God.

Christian God is evil and retarded.

So your claim remains unsubstantiated. Kings who worshipped idolatry killed prophets. And they and the nation that worshipped idols were punished.

See how great learning is? It points out what you don't really know and gives you an opportunity to change your position when faced with more facts.

So where am I going with this?

The evidence suggests that it's written on the hearts of men to develop and practice religions, and the forms of religion which come most naturally to men are the templates described above. Even if a religion starts out as a lofty intellectual construct (e.g. Buddhism), or the founder expressly discouraged several of the above (for instance, Jesus and repetitive prayer, Paul and asceticism), it will, within a few generations, morph into the above. Thus, orthopractically, religions tend to converge in the same general direction. 

Psychology of religion is an important field for understanding the subject.  This field has tended to be dominated by atheists, which is why many theists distrust it, but one could use the insights provided to construct the "intuitive religion" of a generalized form, AKA the one common religion of mankind. 

Which raises the question: why is there, in a manner of speaking, one common religion that people across the world know by pure intuition?

that's because you value hedonism over justice

Who said anything about justifying anything? Why don't you go back through the Jewish bible and make a list of all the prophets who were killed. Then look to see who killd each one and what the consequences were.

See, that would be called "learning" and you should look into it.

All Meta-space concepts are of a spiritual nature.

Eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe is of a spiritual nature.

Experience  --via occupied space-- precedes all access to Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego.

01 } Spirit-1 is Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego

-----------------conceptual line-of-demarcation--------------

2 } Spirit-2 is the eternally existent{?}  occupied space Fermionic matter and bosonic forces aka Observed-phyiscal reality-Time { OT }

3 } Spirit-3 is the eternally existent,  ultra-micro, Meta-physical { outer surface set of nodal events }, occupied space Gravity (  )

4} Spirit-4 is the eternally existent, ultra-micro, Meta-physical { inner surface set of nodal events }, occupied space Dark Energy )( 

When any other has logical, common sense critical thinking that validates or invalidates my above givens --as presented-- please share.  None ever have validated my givens and none will ever invalidate them.

It also confirms as I explained above.  It appears that Islamic culture has been allowed to override UK law and nobody gives a fk including the  UK  Government that outlaws the practices of other foreign cultures.

1. The laws were the laws before the prophets existed

2. why would you quote the gospels to someone who doesn't see them as authoritative or useful?

for a start ;)

I shall answer it for you then shall I. And the answer is simple:      The story is false. Neither Moses nor god freed the people. Pharaoh expelled them from his land because the were out populating the indigenous Egyptians.  

I'm not sure what you mean by "trinity math".

Those are some of the basic laws (with only a few errors) which God commanded. So? And your logical conclusion about why those are laws is possibly the dumbest thing I will see online today. Thanks.

Creator God is Meta-space mind/intellect/concept and perhaps stems from ego

Spirit-1 is Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego ex concepts of creator God, Time, Space, Footballs, Toyotas

---conceptual line of demarcation---------

Spiirt-2 is the eternally existent { ? } occupied space physical reality aka observed {  * quantized *  } time, as Ferminonic matter and Bosonic forcess, that, aggregate as atoms, molecules substances, terra-ferma, galalaxies clusters of galaxies and Universe { @ }as sum-total of occupied space.

Spirit-3 eternally existent, occupied space Gravity ...(>   )(    )(     )(    < ).........

Spirit-4, eternally existent occupied space Dark Energy ......<)(   )(   )(    )(>.......

........space(> * <)(> * <)space........

God as eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe { @ } is logical, common sense critical thinking based on experiences structural and systemic integrity found with all finite occupied space objects, to more or lesser degrees of existence with a time period.

/\ = triangle as closed, 2D  structural integrity

[  ] = square as closed, 2D systemic integrity

8 triangles and 6 squares define the 3D cubo-octahedron aka 12-aorund-one equal radius spheres, and has 3, 4, 6 and 12 ergo a total of 25, topological  axis of spin

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/s04/figs/f5011a.html

When made from four circle planes, we have 24 radii vs 24 chords ergo balance between 24 dispersive radiating EMRadiation and 24 circumferential gravitational chords as the ' closet to we would ever come to knowing  God '. 

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/s04/figs/f5511.html

Great bisecting 2D planes become great bisecting great 2D circles ---when conceptually spun on 25 axi---

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/s04/figs/f5011b.html

2D great circles conceptually become 3D tori when conceptually { imagined } expanded to have a volume { outer surface > inside body < inner surface }

Three what?

You are not very good at answering the question are you, Shila.  You do realise that your chosen verses make nonsense of gods decision considering it was he that wanted his own chosen people to go free.

WHY did he harden Pharaoh's heart. It is never ever explained. If god wanted his people freed so desperately why not just free them himself with a wave of his godly hand instead of having go betweens' racing back and forth demanding shite every day ?  You cannot answer the question because there isn't any  answer. 

Maybe you should leave it to the author of the OP Owen_T to take up the questions considering he invited the questions in the first place...... but I won't hold my breath.

X x = woman 

X y = man

X x - X - y

----------------------

Three X's and one y make four.

Humans bi-pedal

Many animal quadra-pedal

BIrds ---descendants of dinosaurs-- two legs two feet, bilateral wings.

12 - or 24 cranial nerves and 31 bilateral spinal nerves in humans and some other animals.

20 kinds of amino-acids --left and right total 40---   with biologic life being composed of only left-hand amino-acids only.

.." An an thas six legs. Like all insects, ants have a three-part body: the head, thorax, and abdomen. Their legs are attached to the thorax, which is the middle part of their body. Each leg has three segments: the coxa, the trochanter, and the femur. "...

I have not not not not eaten a carrot.

Group 2 wont be given new life. They will just cease to exist.

Why did an omnipotent god create anything at all?

If god wanted Pharaoh to "let his people go" then  why did god harden the heart of Pharaoh causing him to be stubborn and refuse to free those that were in so called "bondage"? 

That makes sense

But now your just ignoring the bulk of it, why a creature with free will would do such a thing .

I didn't realize this but when Roe vs Wade was overturned Jewish woman across America were protesting the decision as being against their religion. https://www.brandeis.edu/jewish-experience/social-justice/2022/june/abortion-judaism-joffe.html

However we know for a fact that every single time a state bans an abortion, without exception they all make exceptions for saving a mother’s life. The claim by some of their scholars is Jewish laws say a woman can abort to save her own life, but every single abortion ban in America always makes an exception to save the life or health of the mother, so them claiming a ban on abortion is against their religion for that reason are lying because the law already makes exceptions for those circumstances, so the only way that thinking a ban on murdering children is against their religion is if the myth of blood libel is not a myth, but in fact an actual secretly held Jewish practice.

I understand your point, Satan was a powerful angel who wanted to be god, but got cast out.

You have affirmed that Lucifer is powerful and wise, such a being would not try to overthrow a god if it was impossible. 

So, you're implying that God does not have complete omnipotence over his creations. 

This is further supported by the fact that god, being all knowing, could have just not created Lucifer. 

Yes.

what are you talking about? God put the restrictions on diet and God commanded the circumcision. Is there anything you actually know?

Assuming the existence of angels, we know that they would be wise beyond our understanding, being essentially demigods. Only a comically stupid idiot would go against an omnipotent being.

That also raises the question why would an all knowing being allow Lucifer to exist? 

See you can't even answer what the three are.

Whatever you say ,I would then request scripture on it.

1} electron mass .511 ev

......1a} muon lepton/electron mass 206.768 times that of electron

.......1b} tau lepton/electron and is mass is 3,477 { aprox. } times greater than electron and 3270 { aprox. } greater than muon

note: then three of the same kinds of anti-partilcle

Then three types of neutrino lepton and anti-neutrinon lepton

Note: ergo total of 6 { 2 * 3 } neutrino leptons in Universe

 Then there are three primary kinds of quark, and 18 { 3 * 6 } combinations of flavors etc.

note: then there are 18 { 3 * 6 } combinations anti-quark flavors  ergo total 36 { 3 * 12 } combination of quark - anti-quark in Universe

3 > 6.... >.... 18............ >.............36

3 Primary polyhedral { 3D } and convex, symmetry's of Universe

.......3-fold  tetra{4}hedron

........4-fold cubo{ 6}-octa{8}hedron

...........5 { phi } -fold icosa{20}hedron

" rats in my kitchen whitey man on the moon " ......' The First Man ' { 1969 }  movie

1969 / 3 = 656 and in around the time of 656 AD these events occurred

...." 650: The first Chinese paper money is issued.[4]

650s: After sailing from Ethiopia, Sa'd ibn Abi Waqqas allegedly introduced Islam to China, and established the first Islamic mosque of China in Guangzhou.[14] "...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7th_century#Inventions,_discoveries,_introductions

The title is a bit misleading. Answers from all non Christians would be great. 

Here are a few I have:

If God is all powerful, why would Satan rebel?

Why did Jesus provide such little evidence for his resurrection?

Cosmic Trinity/Trinary Set/Outline

1}Eternally existent Meta-space, mind/intellect/concepts

-----------conceptual line of demarcation---------

2} eternally existent, macro-infinite and truly non-occupied space exists beyond/meta, the following,

3} eternally existent, occupied space Universe,

......3a} eternally existent,  outer Gravity as an ultra-micro, occupied space, 

.......3b} eternally existent { ? }, Observed-physical reality-Time { OT } as an occupied space,

.........3c} eternally existent, inner Dark Energy as ultra-micro occupied space.

Local Priorities:

..1} protect self,

...2} protect family,

....3} protect property

List of subcatagorical trinary sets goes on and on and on.

The second part of that question answers the first part of that question.

Start:

1. Good God created horrible world

A very simple one. I dont mean to insult anyone, but anyone who thinks that good God can create horrible world lacks a working brain. Anyone who thinks that the world is good also lacks a working brain.

2. We are not all same

This is probably the most obvious proof against God. A good God would create all people same so that they can show that they are good or bad under same circumstances.

But no.

Some people live a horrible life, while some live an easy life.

So if God is giving people a chance to prove how good they are, he is not giving everyone the same chance, so we can simply deduct that there is no God stupid enough not to know how testing works.

Making some people be born blind, deaf, mute, disabled, die early...ect., God shows no consistency in his testing, thus his tests cant even yield results because a person blind for whole life is prevented from looking at a woman and doing a sin of looking at a woman with lust.

A person who dies early, for example, as a baby, you can never know if he would actually be good or bad later in life.

If you do know, then there is no point of testing to begin with.

3. They have no purpose

A bunch of people in this world have no actual divine purpose. They are neither smart, neither good, neither humble...ect.

Basically, under common understanding of religion, God created these purpose-less people, they do evil and then get thrown in hell.

Since God had no logical reason to even create them, their mere existence negates the God creator.

I am a bad boy.

Why Do Evangelists Love Trump? Could it be because he is the son of Christ?

Trump's father's name is Frederick Christ Trump.

There were 3 good arguments that Jesus was Black: 

1. He called everyone brother 

2. He liked Gospel 

3. He didn't get a fair trial 

But then there were 3 equally good arguments that Jesus was Jewish: 

1. He went into His Father's business 

2. He lived at home until he was 33 

3. He was sure his Mother was a virgin and his Mother was sure He was God 

But then there were 3 equally good arguments that Jesus was Italian: 

1. He talked with His hands 

2. He had wine with His meals 

3. He used olive oil 

But then there were 3 equally good arguments that Jesus was a Californian: 

1. He never cut His hair 

2. He walked around barefoot all the time 

3. He started a new religion 

But then there were 3 equally good arguments that Jesus was an American Indian: 

1. He was at peace with nature 

2. He ate a lot of fish 

3. He talked about the Great Spirit 

But then there were 3 equally good arguments that Jesus was Irish: 

1. He never got married. 

2. He was always telling stories. 

3. He loved green pastures. 

But then there were 3 equally good arguments that Jesus was Mexican: 

1. He treated his mama like she was a saint. 

2. He always wore llantas and a serape. 

3. He was a carpenter who could fix anything. 

But the most compelling evidence of all - 3 proofs that Jesus was a woman: 

1. He fed a crowd at a moment's notice when there was virtually no food 

2. He kept trying to get a message across to a bunch of men who just didn't get it 

3. And even when He was dead, He had to get up because there was still work to do.

3 simple proofs that God doesnt exist

He's three what?

If you say "persons" , be sure to unpack that a great deal.

Thanks, I appreciate the compliments.

how is that even remotely relevant?

Actually, Jews were ordered to follow a variety of other commandments (the number 613 is debated as is the category called "commandments"). Saying Jews were only "successful" in observing one means you don't know anything about Judaism. Are you saying that I didn't pray this morning? Are you saying that I don't keep the sabbath or abide by dietary laws? 

I hope Satan possesses me. I belong to my father Satan. I reject Jesus and accept the true Lord Dragon.

May Satan's power consume Christianity. May Lord Dragon return in his true horned form.

I love devil. May the Horned Dragon win. Flames of Horned Dragon attack the unjust!

May Lord Satan win and may Jesus lose again.

I love devil. Devil is the true master and Jesus is tiny when compared to the actual Dragon.

In Satan we trust!

I will never stop praying to Satan. He comes in me while I sleep.

Every day I commit another sin to satisfy the True God Satan.

I hope Satan possesses me. I want him to do it. I want to be one with the Horned Dragon.

I reject the light and accept the darkness.

I am wealthy because I work for the devil. The devil makes me do it.

May I recieve rewards from the devil.

I hope Satan possesses me. I belong to my father Satan. I reject Jesus and accept the true Lord Dragon.

May Satan's power consume Christianity. May Lord Dragon return in his true horned form. 

I love devil. May the Horned Dragon win. Flames of Horned Dragon attack the unjust! 

May Lord Satan win and may Jesus lose again. 

I love devil. Devil is the true master and Jesus is tiny when compared to the actual Dragon.

In Satan we trust!

I will never stop praying to Satan. He comes in me while I sleep.

Every day I commit another sin to satisfy the True God Satan. 

I hope Satan possesses me. I want him to do it. I want to be one with the Horned Dragon. 

I reject the light and accept the darkness. 

I am wealthy because I work for the devil. The devil makes me do it. 

May I recieve rewards from the devil.

Who here can say that I am not under special protection of the devil?