Shila

Your analogy is not syllogistic because the hypothetical officer has not committed a serious crime, whereas the real offender has.

I'd be far more sympathetic if the offender hadn't committed a serious crime and was merely seeking help. 

The difference is the crime, not the mental illness.

--> @Greyparrot

Do Ukrainians feel threaten by Putin talking nuclear strikes? Does NATO or any one else, feel and then  fear Putins rehtoric of nuclear strikes on  Ukraine?

If a police officer ---put in place Ukrainians--  feels threaten of bodily harm, or worse, are they  allowed to use lethal force? ---see not guilty verdict in current events----.

I guess the differrence is that Ukrainians are not police officers, so they have no right to use lethal weapons or nuclear missiles, just because they feel threatened by nuclear attack.

Putin initiated the violent conflict, and initiated nuclear threats.  Why do that? Does he feel back into a corner for his country or just his ego, and is desperate to save face by initiating nuclear option?

Fight fire with fire, fight nuclear threat with nuclear threat? Ukrainians do not have nuclear missiles, so they cant offer any nuclear threat, so there asking some one else to offer the nuclear threat?

--> @Shila

Yep, I know what albinism is. Though I still don't know what you are trying to say, because as I stated previously, albinism affects people of all racial sub-groups.

Whites set the standards for beauty.

We all set our own standards for what we find appealing in others, relative to how we discriminate, relative to conditioning,

Socially contrived standards are generally marketing tools, and how we market health and appearance is ever changing relative to social change.

So lighter skinned people are likely to have once set standards relative to social conditions and social conditioning, just as darker skinned people would have done the same in a separate social environment.

Social interaction between sub-groups defined by skin tone has moved on a tad, though for sure there are still places where this will be significantly less so.

Species evolution is slow and might be getting less slow, relative to concurrent technological advances, and if we are being realistic, we shouldn't really expect any more or any less.

In evolutionary terms, blaming lighter skinned people for everything, has always been a counter-intuitive compliment dressed up as criticism.

And so, in a few thousand years, the generally swarthy hominid occupants of planet Earth might look back and stick two fingers up at their lighter skinned predecessors, but their lighter skinned predecessors will not care because they will all have long since died. 

Nonetheless the generally swarthy will not be able to deny their genetic inheritance. 

And presumably albinism will still occur.

And hopefully we will have evolved to become more tolerant. (Yep, seems like a big ask)

One person who strongly believes in the above principle is Peter Singer, an Australian philosopher who now teaches at Princeton. Singer believes our intuitions are what lead us astray in “The Footbridge Case” not our principles and we should ignore our intuitions or change them. 

Singer believes we should always act so as to bring about the best consequences overall and so we should get over our reluctance to push the fairly large person and do the right thing: save the five workmen further down the tracks by sacrificing the one. 

Singer’s explanation why we are misled and hesitate to do the right thing in “The Footbridge Case” is due to fact that we’re asked to put our bare hands on another human being and shove that person to his death. We should always, Singer believes, “save five by sacrificing one” but because we are asked to do something that produces an intense emotional response, that very intense emotional response gets in the way of our capacity to think clearly and rationally about the problem.

Singer acknowledges that there are differences in the two cases. He agrees that our immediate intuitive responses upon hearing each case, the original Trolley case and the Footbridge case, point in different directions. In the first case we’re ready to sacrifice one to save five, in the Footbridge case, we are not. But Singer believes the examples simply reveal that we should revise or bracket our intuitions and act rationally.

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@Shila

Yes, I can. It is related to the word bibliophilia which is the love of books or reading. Don't see why this is a problem.

RationalMadman: Joe Biden has a decades-long habit of making overtly racist remarks, taking discriminatory positions and cavorting with known racists—things that would get anyone to his political right tossed out of polite society. But being on the left must make it okay.

Just a few days ago, while lamenting the difficulty in convincing many Latinos and blacks to take the COVID vaccine, he committed a series of racially charged blunders that barely registered in the corporate media’s consciousness.

Biden white-splained that Latinos in America resist vaccinations because “they’re worried that they’ll be vaccinated and deported.”

This statement makes the insane assumption that all Latinos present in this country are illegal aliens subject to expulsion. It never occurred to Biden that more than 60 million Latinos are actually American citizens, according to recent census figures.

While insulting such a sizable segment of our population, Biden actually went further. He referred to this group of people as “Latinx,” which is a term invented by woke academics who objected to gender-specific words in the Spanish language.

Just 3% of Latinos use “Latinx” to describe themselves and less than a quarter have even heard of the term, according to the Pew Research Center. Many find it to be an offensive bastardization of the Spanish language.

Here, Biden is almost certainly unaware of what he’s saying and has simply repeated what a liberal on his staff has instructed him to say. But there are plenty of examples where Biden should not receive the benefit of the doubt.

In the same breath as his “Latinx” comment, Biden lectured about the fears that blacks may have of the vaccine, attempting to point to historically shameful episodes when they were subjected to inhumane medical experiments.

“They are used to being experimented on—the Tuskegee Airmen and others,” Biden said.

In this, he confused legendary World War II fighter pilots with a long, notorious governmental study of syphilis among

black men—the Tuskegee Experiment.

It does not take much effort to imagine the media’s reaction if Donald Trump had mangled so many racial issues in one press conference.

Examples dating back to his campaign for president (and earlier) abound.

On Charlamagne Tha God’s popular morning radio show in May 2020, Biden infamously asserted to the largely black audience that if they were unsure of whether to vote for him or Trump, then “you ain’t black!”

Then in August 2020, Biden told a gathering of black and Hispanic journalists that “unlike the African American community, with notable exceptions, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community with incredibly different attitudes about different things.”

Taken together, these statements clearly suggest that Biden believes all black people think alike.

In the same interview, responding to a question on whether he had taken a cognitive test, Biden angrily fired back with the suggestion that the black reporter was a drug addict.

“That’s like saying you . . . before you got in this program, you’re take [sic] a test whether you’re taking cocaine or not,” Biden said. “What do you think? Huh? Are you a junkie?”

Put these words into Mitch McConnell’s mouth and try to envision how long he’d be allowed to remain in the Senate, let alone in a leadership position.

But Biden has been getting away with this for years.

In 2010, he warmly eulogized Sen. Robert Byrd, a former Exalted Cyclops in the Ku Klux Klan, saying he was “one of my mentors” and that “the Senate is a lesser place for his going.”

In 2007, he referred to Barack Obama as “the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean.”

In 2006, he said, “You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”

Way back in 1977, he said that forced busing to desegregate schools would cause his children to “grow up in a racial jungle.”

Of course, he infamously worked with segregationist senators to oppose that mandatory busing, which decades later led to the strongest moment in Kamala Harris’s campaign for president, when she blasted him as having personally impacted her as a young girl.

And over the course of his entire career, he had kind words to say about staunchly segregationist senators.

Any one of these statements or episodes would have been enough to sink the political career of any conservative in Washington, D.C., against whom tenuous accusations of racism are commonplace and occur almost daily.

But Joe Biden, who has a lifetime of them, is now president of the United States. On some days and in some ways, it must be good to be on the left.

https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/commentary/bidens-history-getting-away-racist-remarks

Women punching the f**k out of each other and men getting excited by it.

Once again I blame testosterone.

-> @Shila

And what are police officers and society doing to help cops be seen as friendly protectors that have a code in the eyes of the predominantly black communities in US?

That, TWS, is the real root cause and real solution.

What an ass-backwards and wrong way of framing the situation lol.

The correct question is this: what are the civilians doing to get shot? In this case, it appears to be grabbing the gun/taser of an officer. It shouldn't be up to the officers and "society" (whatever that means) to make that situation PR friendly to the black community. It should be up to the people not to commit the serious crime in the first place. 

The crime is the real root cause, and the real solution is prosecuting criminals. 

Which is exactly what the officer did not do when he shot Pamela. She was not a criminal, she had some mental issues.

LOL what, is the officer going to try and arrest her, in order for her to stand before a judge, whilst he's being tased and shot at? xD

Sometimes, prosecution happens in real time, if you're attempting to harm a police officer.

I'm glad they found the cure for this dangerous, wild criminal's mental illness: a 9mm to the dome.

--> @Avery

Men tend to be more attracted to more neonotenous traits in women, such as larger eyes and just in general, youthful features. I can't remember where I read it, and I can't seem to find it now. Although most men do see strong bone structures as masculine. A woman can have high cheekbones and still look feminine. She can even have a jawline and look feminine. It's just harder to pull it off on average, it seems. A weak chin does not necessarily make a girl look more attractive than a well-developed one, but it certainly does not make her look more masculine to have a weak chin. A weak chin on a man makes him look more feminine on average. Which just means a woman can get away with having a weak chin or a negative canthal tilt easier than a man can, as it doesn't change their sexual dimorphism profile.

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@Shila

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Shila, is now taking over in being the #1 Bible fool over Tradesecret's former position,

YOUR CONTINUED BIBLICAL IGNORANT QUOTE IN YOUR POST #69: "You are quoting verses that came from Paul. Paul was not a disciple of Jesus nor did he meet or follow Jesus like the other disciples did."

What part of this very simple biblical syllogism don't you understand, you inept Bible fool?

THE BIBLE STATES THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD IN JESUS:  “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.” (1 Timothy 2:5)

JESUS IS THE SERIAL KILLER YAHWEH GOD INCARNATE, THE ONE GOD: “Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours."

THEREFORE, JESUS AS THE ONE GOD WITHIN THE SCRIPTURES, INSPIRED EVERY WORD WRITTEN PERTAINING TO THE 2ND CLASS WOMAN:  “And we also thank God constantly for this, that when you received the word of God which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men but as what it really is, the word of God.” (1 Thessalonians 2:13)

Paul spoke in the inspired words of Jesus as being God in 1 Thessalonians 2:13, understood?  Are you calling the above biblical syllogism a LIE?!  If so, where do you get the authority to usurp Jesus' true words He gave to Paul?!  Tell us, is  your blatant Bible stupidity natural, or do you have to practice it daily? LOL!

Jesus H. Christ, and I thought Tradesecret was bible stupid, whereas you take the cake hasds down!

--> @Yassine

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@Shila

The one you are responded to titled: The beauties of Islam.

- The subject thus being...?

According to Best.Korea the author of this thread:

So yeah, that is the beauty of islam.

The worlds fastest growing cult islam has many other beauties too:

1) praying every day for Allah not to punish you

2) getting circumcised

3) living in fear

4) living life thinking you are an insignificant dust

5) being told to sacrifice animals to Allah

6) being told that all non muslims are evil

So basically, if you like this kind of stuff, join islam. I am not gonna stop you because my belief in self-determination doesnt allow me to decide about your life for you.

--> @Shila

But Jesus clarifies the relationship between the Father and him.

John 10:30 I and the Father are one.

John 14:7 If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”

How does that “clarify” it, what is the relationship, on face value the statements are conflicting.

-> @Shila

No i’m saying the elderly sometimes go into a child like mental state.

American children are used to seeing people in masks. In fact they were raised to accept people wearing masks as entertainment. It started with the cowboy bandits, then bank robbers and KKK.

That’s what this reminded me of. 

It does in their mind, but reality says otherwise, at least according to my mind and I'm willing to bet yours.

The fact that a statement is objectively true does not mean every person will believe it.

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@Shila

The one you are responded to titled: The beauties of Islam.

- The subject thus being...?

-> @Shila

Shila or Harikrish,

If you had taken the time to read my posts - which your comment seems to refute. 

I have never changed genders.   My gender remains the same as it was the day I was born.https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/2106/post-links/351132

I did indicate however that my profile page has changed a lot. And the reason I changed that was due in part to external pressures inter alia. 

My depravity -which incidentally is COMMON to all people is total depravity.  It is what flows from the original sin, the fall of man. 

In that sense, you and I and Stephen are all born depraved. 

--> @BrotherD.Thomas

need a decoder ring, or addendums to be able to read them in their alleged true form?

What languages are the Bible written in? It wasn't English. That's why there hundreds of TRANSLATIONS! They all differ based on INTERPRETATIONS of the Greek.

Honestly I would laugh at this troll account but some people actually believe the tripe you're joking about.

--> @zedvictor4

Jesus, fictional, mythical or otherwise is undeniably a historically recorded character.

Whether the accounts of his life and activities are vaguely true or not, is impossible to know.

Though I would suggest that most interpretations are embellished and exaggerated, such that we can only regard the biblical tales as myth or fantasy. 

Someone as disturbingly radical as Christ, as powerful in actions, presence, and legacy as he was, could only be expected to incite widely varying interpretations of his life.

He is the most written about person in history, the only written evidence comes from Christian sources, but they wrote about Him and there is no reason to think there was some kind of conspiracy to lie about His existence.   You could likewise argue that Thales, Pythagoras and Socrates never existed because the only evidence we have was what other’s wrote about them, and since all the sources were Greek, maybe they made it up, but why would you?  Just because written sources from antiquity necessarily come down to us from the culture that they existed in, is no reason to doubt them. 

 

To claim that the most influential person in history never existed would be an extraordinary claim which would require extraordinary evidence, and there is none. 

The same historical evidence that He existed, also states that he explicitly denied being God.

Matthew 7:21

"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the  kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.”

 

Matthew 24:36

"But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only.”

 

Mark 10:18

And Jesus said to him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.”

 

Mark 13:32

"But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”

 

Luke 22:42

saying, "Father, if it is Your will, take this cup away from Me; nevertheless not My will, but Yours, be done."

 

John 4:34

Jesus said to them, "My food is to do the will of him who sent me, and to accomplish his work.”

 

John 5:30

"I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me.”

 

John 6:38

"For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.”

 

John 7:16

Jesus answered them and said, "My doctrine is not Mine, but His who sent Me.”

 

John 8:42

Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I proceeded and came forth from God; I came not of my own accord, but he sent me.”

 

John 8:50

“And I do not seek My own glory; there is One who seeks and judges.”

 

John 12:49

"For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak.”

 

John 14:24

"He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father's who sent Me.”

-> @Shila

Yes, I certainly accept the case for the historical Jesus character, first mentioned as such, sometime around the 12th century.

One couldn't really avoid it, as one was force fed Jesus' tales throughout one's early school years.

Fortunately, my father was a devout atheist and kept me on the straight and narrow.

-> @zedvictor4

Jesus, fictional, mythical or otherwise is undeniably a historically recorded character.

Whether the accounts of his life and activities are vaguely true or not, is impossible to know.

Though I would suggest that most interpretations are embellished and exaggerated, such that we can only regard the biblical tales as myth or fantasy. 

Someone as disturbingly radical as Christ, as powerful in actions, presence, and legacy as he was, could only be expected to incite widely varying interpretations of his life.

--> @Shila

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Shila, is now taking over in being the #1 Bible fool over Tradesecret's former position,

Dear, I am truly sorry, but as I stated before, Jesus wanted me to make you an example of being one of the most Bible stupid pseudo-christians that has ever frequented  this DEBATEART Religion Forum, bar none!

Shila dear, do you want to call Jesus' inspired words above towards demeaning women as LIES?  Then you dig yourself deeper into the hole you have provided for yourself because of the following JESUS INSPIRED passages: 

YOUR BIBLE IGNORANT QUOTE TO MY QUOTE ABOVE IN YOUR POST #39: "I checked my red letter Bible. None of the quotes above came from Jesus. Jesus was never an authority on women. Even at 30 he remained single. But hung around with 12 men. One lied to him the other betrayed him."

Simply put with your quote above in saying that Jesus did not say the passages relative to the 2nd class inferior woman, your biblical ignorance has no bounds because of the following biblical axioms:

THE BIBLE STATES THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD IN JESUS:  “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.” (1 Timothy 2:5)

JESUS IS THE SERIAL KILLER YAHWEH GOD INCARNATE, THE ONE GOD: “Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours."

THEREFORE, JESUS AS THE ONE GOD WITHIN THE SCRIPTURES, INSPIRED EVERY WORD WRITTEN PERTAINING TO THE 2ND CLASS WOMAN:  “And we also thank God constantly for this, that when you received the word of God which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men but as what it really is, the word of God.” (1 Thessalonians 2:13)

Shila, if I can be frank, and you can remain Shila, we don't know in how much biblical embarrassment you can take within your own thread, therefore, Jesus and I will still have to continue to show your outright Bible stupidity ad infinitum at your continued embarrassing expense, sorry dear.  :(

IS THERE ANOTHER PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN WOMAN THAT IS AS DUMBFOUNDED OF THE BIBLE AS "SHILA" IS SHOWN TO BE...?

--> @Shila

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Shila, is now taking over in being the #1 Bible fool over Tradesecret's former position,

In addressing your double-speak and complete Bible runaway responses in your ever so embarrassing post #39, you do not have the wherewithal to understand in just how Bible stupid you truly are!  Look at your pathetic responses to actual Biblical axioms in said post, where you continue to repeat yourself over and over with your child-like assumed logical responses, how embarrassing can you get?!  

You're an embarrassment to Christianity and this prestigious Religion Forum, and don't think that Jesus is not watching you perform your Satanic acts that you will pay for upon Judgment Day for sure!  (Hebrews 4:13) 

NEXT BIBLICALLY INFERIOR WOMAN LIKE "SHILA" THAT GOES DIRECTLY AGAINST JESUS' TRUELY INSPIRED WORDS REGARDING THE SECOND-CLASS WOMAN WILL BE ...?

--> @Shila

Why are you talking about yourself in third person? 

Is this a Seinfeld episode?

--> @Shila @Tradesecret

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SHILA, the Bible fool that is vying to take over Tradesecret’s position as being the #1 Bible fool at DEBATEART Religion Forum,

In addressing your ever so weak post #39:

JESUS' INSPIRED WORDS STATED:  “Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor." (1 Timothy 2:11-14)

Your Bible inept response to the passage above in your weak post #39 was: “It is logical God would not want Adam’s rib (Eve) to be smarter than Adam.

But remember Eve ate the fruit of knowledge first and then offered it to Adam so he would not be dumber than her.”

WRONG! What has your child-like response relative to 1 Timothy 2:11-14 have to do with the biblical axiom that you are an inferior woman that is NOT to teach or exercise the authority over man as you are embarrassingly doing in your pathetic thread, but where you are only to remain QUIET as Jesus proposes in said passage?!  Huh?

Relative to your continued Bible stupidity, yes, it was Eve that ate from the Tree of Knowledge FIRST, where Jesus, as Yahweh God incarnate, had forbidden Adam and Eve to eat from this tree, remember Bible inept fool?

“And Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor.” (1 Timothy 2:14)

Therefore, Eve started Original Sin, thankyouverymuch, and man has been paying for Eve going against Jesus’ command ever since, understood Bible stupid fool?  Therefore, since Eve was the transgressor, Jesus punished her with the following: To the woman he said, "I will make your pains in childbearing very severe; with painful labor you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you." (Genesis 3:16) 

In the Creation narrative, this is where it started that the woman is looked down upon in the Bible, and became a second class citizen to this day,  period!

As I have told you before many times, take your insidious “dog and pony show” to a Children’s Christian Forum where you belong because of your complete Bible ignorance!  In doing so, this will save  you from further embarrassment within this esteemed Religion Forum, understood you complete Bible stupid fool?!

NEXT?

Yassine- Take a deep breath there buddy

--> @Shila

- Which subject is that?

I never said The Bible was or wasn’t the word of God, I simply made a general statement

K_Michael’s error wasn’t helpful, and I resent that notion of me.

You're going to sit there and tell me the Democrats can't fix democracy now?

When Democrats had huge majorities, from 1932 to 1970, they transformed this country. Presidents like Roosevelt and LBJ signed hundreds of bills from those Congresses into law. We got SS, unemployment insurance, laws to protect the environment, civil rights laws, Medicare benefits, on and on. The Republicans resisted all of it but when they realized they couldn’t stop it and the laws were popular, they eventually joined in.

And what are police officers and society doing to help cops be seen as friendly protectors that have a code in the eyes of the predominantly black communities in US?

That, TWS, is the real root cause and real solution.

What an ass-backwards and wrong way of framing the situation lol.

The correct question is this: what are the civilians doing to get shot? In this case, it appears to be grabbing the gun/taser of an officer. It shouldn't be up to the officers and "society" (whatever that means) to make that situation PR friendly to the black community. It should be up to the people not to commit the serious crime in the first place. 

The crime is the real root cause, and the real solution is prosecuting criminals. 

-> @Shila

->@TWS1405

--> @Shila

I hat you just wrote absolutely zero sense!!! 

Cops are trained to defend themselves from an assailant using their taser against them. Because if they don’t and the cop gets tased, the assailant could and would take their service pistol and kill them and then others in their escape. 

Why wasn’t the taser secured before the officer approached Pamela Turner?

Can you prove it wasn't secure?

Do you know what kind of taser holster he was issued? 

Yeah, didn't think so...

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@Shila

No idea what you're getting at.

--> @Public-Choice

--> @TWS1405

I'm waiting to see how being black will somehow tie into this. After all, you blame them for everything else in life.

“Everything else in life”? Nope. Just half the violent crime in this country and the segment that’s overtly racist towards anyone not black (namely whites).

And therein lies your problem. It has not ever been established that these few inserted lines were written by Josephus as I wrote in my very first post here> #3

Stephen wrote:  This will be the very much debated The Testimonium Flavianum, which other scholars believed was added by the Christian apologist Eusebius. Indeed many modern scholars reject it altogether. And further, Josephus doesn't refer to him as a god.

I also wrote :  What Josephus appears to say is extremely very little concerning the biblical Jesus which amounts to just a handful of questionable lines, and these are rejected by many scholars. I am sure Josephus - a priest himself- would have afforded the son of god a little more than a handful of lines, don't you? #14

And I have also written -  It appears to me that you have run out of steam and can only repeat what you have already said and are now reduced to simply repeating your blatant lies and no doubt you will invent new lies. I honestly believed I was going to have a decent conversation on this thread.  

I will only respond if I feel it is necessary.

You simply couldn't stand the pace you deceitful fkn amateur.

--> @Shila

Yep, as I stated Jesus/Joshua/Yeshua is/was a character recorded in historical narratives and we know roughly where he was said to have lived, there's no denying that.

And that's about all one can say for certain.

And yep 1632, that's the point I try to get across. All is made up after the event

--> @BrotherD.Thomas

Did you get your theology diploma from a cracker jack box?

If you go to the Greek and Hebrew you'll find that your analysis is completely uncalled for and taken entirely out of context from its original purpose.

Shila isn't preaching a sermon or leading a church right now. This is a public forum where a discussion is being had. There is nothing in the Bible that says sharing the gospel is a sin.

--> @Shila

Great post!

A Accidental honor killing.  

--> @BrotherD.Thomas

I have never changed genders.   My gender remains the same as it was the day I was born.  

Of course on the forum page for profiles - the characteristics I have identified have changed numerous times.  

I have offered as an explanation for this several factors:

1. I was being stalked by both Brother Thomas and Stephen.  

2. I may have been hacked. 

3. I felt like changing it because I can. 

4. It is actually a similar tactic that Brother Thomas used - since his profile is a fake profile. 

Any and All of these factors are individually or taken together sufficient explanation for the change on my profile. 

And honestly,  the repeated attacks - and defamatory abuse by Brother, Stephen and now Shila or harikrish whatever its name is now - demonstrates reasonable  and overwhelming excuse for my behaviour. 

In any event, au revoir

In relation to God calling me. That is the point.  I did not choose God - he chose me. I would never have chosen God - since I was totally depraved. Total does not mean so evil I was evil - but so totally depraved that I could not save myself.   There was no deceit in what I said. 

https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/2106-was-jesus-a-liar-and-a-lunatic?page=8&post_number=186

--> @K_Michael

If the Bible isn't the word of God, then what indication do you have that He agrees with it?

I never said The Bible was or wasn’t the word of God, I simply made a general statement

--> @Shila

Why are Americans so fascinated by British classics?

They speak English.  I'd argue that the English are even more entranced by Americans.

Getting old sucks.

--> @Double_R

Trump started no wars, fact checked true.

Another disgusting fact to add on to a disgusting man. When do we get to see some blood for god's sake?

You can list all the awards you want, but that doesn't excuse the disastrous consequences of this man's actions.

Anthony is partly responsible for Covid. He helped secure funding for the gain of function research conducted in Wuhan. He is also on record lying about this ("does not fund gain-of-function research and if it is" -- massive contradiction): Exchange between Sen. Rand Paul and Dr. Anthony Fauci - YouTube

Keep all this in mind as Anthony talks about the "profound ways" Covid impacted these students

--> @Shila

The cognitive regression of boomers is more of a natural process. 

--> @Shila

Albinos are albinos.

And the colour scale darkens from there on in.

Interestingly there are black albinos, which is to say, people who are racially black who display albinism.

Which sort of puts the old black white issue into perspective

--> @Shila

I hat you just wrote absolutely zero sense!!! 

Cops are trained to defend themselves from an assailant using their taser against them. Because if they don’t and the cop gets tased, the assailant could and would take their service pistol and kill them and then others in their escape. 

This is a joke of a ruling, and Alex Jones can rest certain that it'll be overturned or whittled down to less than 1/10th its current size upon appeal.

--> @Shila

Are you going to honor my request to not respond to my posts?  Or are just going to continue to be a fucking asshole? I think I already know the answer and so does everyone else.

--> @Shila

Your main struggle is with miracles.

YES, minus the miracles,

I don't have any struggles at all. I have many problems with much of the NT and not just the so-called miracles.

 Wrong again you clown.  In many of those threads of mine I have clearly stated that I believe that a man called Jesus existed but that I can never prove my belief...... and neither can YOU! and my position hasn't changed or waivered since the day I joined here.

Correct, and neither can you. 

I simply believe a man named Jesus existed. He believed himself to be- or was led to believe himself to be rightful heir to the throne of David as king of the Jews and Jerusalem. And that it was this belief that got him executed. He performed no miracles and failed miserably to fulfil the requirements of an expected messiah as many messiahs had before him and since.

Speaking in the second person again!?

 I have just covered this blatant lie told by you. And I have shown that I said no such thing. HERE>>

Stephen wrote: Josephus was a high-ranking warrior priest;    of some royal decent, so I am sure he understood the "theology" of the day much better than either you or me. And if you have read all the works of Josephus, you will know that it was he that got his hands on the collection of the sacred temple scrolls after the fall of the city. #14

Have you actually read the works of Josephus? Because I have.#14

Do you see that clown?  No mention at all concerning Josephus' reasons for having the scrolls at all is there? I mention nothing at all of researching Jesus or research at all.

 It appears to me that you have run out of steam and can only repeat what you have already said and are now reduced to simply repeating your lies and no doubt you will invent new lies. I honestly believed I was going to have a decent conversation on this thread.  You simply couldn't stand the pace you fkn amateur.

I have made my position more than clear and more than once.

I will only respond if I feel it is necessary.