Shila

Finally you are starting to say something that approaches a relationship to reality! A breakthrough!

Among Jews there is often disagreement about everything, yes. I'm also glad that you have mastered bolding a section as if your pointing it out is somehow an exposé of some sort.

The Jews giving Satan a free pass has not worked too well for them. Look at Jewish history of exiles and anti-Semitism.

someday, maybe you'll say something that makes sense. Clearly, today is not that day. "Giv[e] Satan a free pass"? What does that even mean? And what does any of that have to do with exile and anti-Semitism?

Slow down, finish chewing your food, and try to compose an informed and coherent thought. Good luck!

You clearly have been misinformed. Only during the nine days do some Jews refrain from showering, bathing and swimming for pleasure. For the sake of cleanliness, bathing is allowed (except on the fast of the ninth of Av, itself, but even then, some washing for cleanliness and ritual purposes is allowed.

Also, the prohibition for clothing has to do with "freshly laundered" clothes. So they get laundered before the 9 days starts and shaken out, laid on the floor briefly or worn quickly and taken off so they aren't "freshly laundered" but are still clean.

You really have a lot to learn. I'm glad I am here to help you!

If you don't know stuff, you should ask and try to learn. Oh yeah...you aren't into asking for things.

Three corners, all-seeing eye in the middle.

God is the illuminati leader whom is also the devil.

OT God becomes Satan.

Lucifer becomes Jesus, not Satan yet he is Satan via Trinity.

Holy Ghost becomes Allah.

This is how and why there were three iterations. It explains every plothole including the problem of evil since the god has three personalities.

Ironically, that works perfectly with my idea. I dont see a disproof.

The dirtiest? No, why?

I feel I was substantially dirtier when I spent the afternoon playing tackle football with friends, right after the rain ended.

Satan is the prince of evil spirits and adversary of God in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Satan is traditionally understood as an angel who rebelled against God and was cast out of heaven with other “fallen” angels before the creation of humankind

This is inaccurate as it relates to Judaism in 2 separate ways. The soton is the adversary of man, not God, and the soton did not rebel against God etc.

If you have questions about Judaism, you should ask instead of posting things that are wrong.

Judaism views prayer as a necessary component to Jewish practice but it breaks prayer into separate categories. Only one small section of prayer is equated to "ask." Prayers are more often either praise of recognition/thanks (or, in another sense, permission).

A prayer therefore can be structured as "thank you for being you, God" or "I have this obligation to do something so I'm recognizing that I have this obligation" or "I know that the whole world belongs to God so before I do ____ it is important for me to acknowledge that."

That leaves that small section of "please grant me _____" and even those are for more general ideas, not for specific items. Though individuals can add in private requests, we "ask" about big concepts, not things. But even on that level, because asking for big ideas is not appropriate on the Sabbath and holidays, those sections are omitted so the prayer can just be about praise and recognition/thanks.

People outside of Judaism seem to see "askling" as a central and intrinsic part of prayer and they therefore measure their prayer by "getting an answer." But if you see prayer as not about asking, then you don't judge its efficacy by some discernable response.

Mary said something about letting God’s will be done.

But he lost all respect from me when he insists that abortion should be banned because it kills children and then kills children in Egypt.  Imagine if non consenting children were expected to give their lives for someone else.  He says it was to end slavery.  This isn’t a consistent argument because the Bible supports slavery.

I think if God exists, he is a robot designed to slow humanity’s progress so his alien species could conquer the universe.  If he didn’t want abortions, he would have given people condoms and birth control pills.

Great point.

I don’t agree. There is absolutely nothing in the New Testament BIBLE that shows anything contrary to what Matthew 10:34 actually states and means. And, there are many other verses that clearly show that Jesus ‘ appearance in Palestine as a king returned to claim his throne and title would create conflict/war with Rome, it was unavoidable, which in turn would create division of opinions within the family. These difference of opinions would, as Jesus himself admits, set “'a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter in law against her mother in law a man's enemies will be the members of his own household."

You see, there is no doubt that the reason for this is simple. Generations of Jews at the time had been Hellenised after centuries of influence under the Greek rule and their gods (weren’t even the gospels recorded in Greek?). So here we had an older generation still aligned to or hadn’t forgotten their Old Testament god Yahweh while the younger generations were not; “the children of Israel had gone astray”..

The BIBLE clearly tells us that Jesus’ “mission” was to unite those Jews that had been “lost” Matthew 15:24 under one god and one rule.

   In short Jesus was building an army. And I believe there is evidence in the New Testament that does go some way in proving this. And, as with all ends of conflict, there would be the peace under one god and one rule and Jesus believed himself to be the man to bring this peace about. This is a recurring pattern throughout the whole of the BIBLE….. if not the whole of history. Many Jews were happy with the situation under Greek rule as were many happy under Babylonian rule so much so many decided to remain in Babylon and many were full and active members of Babylonian society. After some 70+ years many Jews prospered. It is easy to imagine that many second and third generation Jewish Babylonians had no interest in leaving. As were many happy with the status quo under Roman rule and didn’t want any self proclaimed pretender king upsetting it:

John 11:48

If we let him go on like this, everyone will believe in him, and then the Romans will come and take away both our temple and our nation.”

Luke 22:36King James Version

 Then said he [Jesus] unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

Indeed.

Three corners, all-seeing eye in the middle.

God is the illuminati leader whom is also the devil.

OT God becomes Satan.

Lucifer becomes Jesus, not Satan yet he is Satan via Trinity.

Holy Ghost becomes Allah.

This is how and why there were three iterations. It explains every plothole including the problem of evil since the god has three personalities.

The fast of the 17th of Tammuz is observed this year on this coming Sunday (though the date is actually Saturday, we push it off so that we do not fast on the Sabbath).

This begins a 3 weeks period of mourning and introspection culminating in the fast of the 9th of the month of Av (also, pushed to a Sunday).

The first fast is a "dawn til nightfall" fast on which only eating and drinking are forbidden. The 9th of Av is a 25 hour fast which has additional limitations on behavior.

This is a reversal of the month of mourning after the loss of a family member. In that time of personal mourning, our sadness lessens slightly over a month so the restrictions get less and less. In this communal mourning (over the lass of the temples in Jerusalem and a host of other tragedies) the limitations increase.

Mary consented to sex with God.

The religion forum has gone very quiet.

The argument in formal form:

P1. If a “Perfect Creator” exists, This Perfect being created a new good-making property by creating the universe 

P2. If a “Perfect Creator” exists, God could not have created a new good-making property, as one must have all good-making properties already to be Perfect

C. A “Perfect Creator” entails a logical contradiction (God created a new good-making property, but God cannot create a new good-making property).

Are homosexual natures created by nurture, nature, or God?

I think the answer is is quite important as it would show us the cause/source of homosexuality.

If God, as believers think, then why is God creating gays?

Regards

DL

I imagine at least 'one of the religions/groups/cults that call themselves Satanists, worship Satan, and view God as the enemy.

Atheism is irrational

The Existence of Green is Disproved

I'm not sure which one of the atheist here this is a troll account for but I'm done. The stupidity of these posts is beyond even anything the atheists usually put down.

Relationships are relationships, they have nothing to do with science you f****** morons.

Well, IF Jesus existed, he was a stoner?

Just because someone says god they don't mean the God of Abraham or Jesus. Idiot.

No shit. God can't bypass the pill. Women killed God's power to rape and force pregnancy.  Yeah us.

Nothing but lies and the theft of the Jewish religion.

God and the Holy Spirit now can't work past the contraceptive,  for real? What kind of god can't work past a  contraceptive?

The Christian religion at its core is nothing but a theft. They took the Jewish god and Roman Hellenistic principles and mesh them together to make a religion that would unite the people because it was easier for them to take over with a unified religion than allowing people to continue to practice their own faith.

Dumbest thing ever said.

great point

thank you for the laugh. We have been threatened with all sorts of things since before your supposed messiah was born and we are still here. You really think we are worried about your particular take on things? Other than your bizarre views regarding numbers and your ignorance of history, do you have anything of substance to contribute?

There is not a single indication in the Old Testament of virgin births. Being born to a god is a Roman concept and was brought into Christianity via the Roman polytheist myths.

There's absolutely nothing in the Old Testament that indicates that the God of Abraham would be willing to share power with any other beings. Not Jesus, not the Holy Spirit, he commands every being in the Old Testament. He would never allow two other beings to be of equal status with him, never.

What is irrelevant is your response. Judaism was around before Christianity and will be around after it.  Maybe try composing an argument based on content and facts,  or are they irrelevant also? 

rosends replied: It contains all sorts of stuff but nothing about Jesus. Finding things and calling them messianic prophecies doesn't make them so, and then saying that Jesus "fulfilled" them is an empty argument. If you want to discuss the content of the Jewish canon then you should listen to someone who has studied it as a Jew, not in your translation and not with an agenda of pulling out bits to find what justifies your theology. Christians can "consider" whatever they want. Jews know otherwise.

You must be new at this. 

rosends reply:If Jesus existed I guess he might have been a Jew and so were other people. He was on no particular mission according to Judaism and quoting from texts that Judaism doesn't see as valid isn't very persuasive.

So, um...yeah.