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@ebuc
Dealing with you on this issue is like being trapped in Escher stair case.
So you admit being trapped.
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Am I so stupid at math or did I just prove God?
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@TheGreatSunGod
My case doesnt rely upon purely logical rules. Yours does. But sadly, logic on its own cannot prove anything here.

"Non-logic, then God, then logic" is an explanation which works and is completely consistent. What other explanation even is there?

There are only 2 possible options:
1. Logic is proved by logic
2. Logic is proved by non-logic

1 is completely impossible by laws of logic, which leaves only 2.

Again, if we assume logic proves everything else, then what proves logic?

If we assume proof is defined by logic, then logic cannot be proved by any proof.

If you say "A=A" is proof of all truth, then what is proof of "A=A" here?

If you define truth as "A=A", then truth proving itself would violate "A=A", because thing which is equal to itself can never prove itself. To claim otherwise would mean "God proves God" is a valid claim now.

So you concede that "A=A" cannot be proved by "A=A". 

Thus, it can only be proved by something which is not "A=A".

This is the only conclusion possible here, otherwise all logic is unproved and then there is no any true logic anyway.

Pascals Wager is that beneficial argument and a very logical outcome.
Pascal's Wager is a philosophical argument suggesting that it's rational to believe in God, even if there's no proof of his existence, because the potential rewards of belief (eternal life) outweigh the potential losses (finite inconveniences of believing) if God does exist. It's a form of pragmatic argument, focusing on the practical consequences of belief rather than on providing evidence for it.

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I hate all muslims except the Talibans
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@vi_777
yes but ig that's not wht Student is reffering to.
He cannot deny that.
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Geometry used in magic and religion
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@zedvictor4
In so much as inspired positivity affects the Brain to produce chemicals that evoke a sense of wellbeing.

So all sorts of activities, religious, mystical, sporting, musical, artistic, sexual  etc etc, will do the trick.
Should they all be considered magic?
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The evidence for Christian God is overwhelming
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@TheGreatSunGod
I cant read all 600 posts. Is there a shorter version, or just link to most important post there.
You get to read other opinions as well.
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Pope Donald
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@TheGreatSunGod
He sold Bible with the constitution embedded in it
Trump realized that adding new words to Bible is the best way to change it. So now we have Bible 2.0 new version.

People 800 years from now who find one such copy will think that US constitution is God's word.
That is why Trump is the antichrist. He is distorting the Bible.
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Should DKIG speech be illegal
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@TheGreatSunGod
The Japanese aging population are too old to engage in crime.
Not everyone in Japan is old.

Japan has a rapidly aging population:
Japan is recognized as having the world's oldest population, with a high proportion of individuals aged 65 and older.

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A poem for 2025 America.
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@FLRW
It has fired.
It reads like fried.
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Call of Duty: Black Ops Mafia DP3
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@Earth
I wonder whats the point of an Informed if it doesn't tell you the nature of this hidden aspect.
He remains well informed.
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liberation day
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@zedvictor4
I much prefer the tyranny imposed by democratic capitalism.
You have it in Trump’s America. Yet Trump wants to Make America Great Again. He is disappointed with the results.
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Jesus said
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@FLRW
I think you mean Pope Donald.
The Conclave have not picked a pope yet.
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top 3 favorite (non-competitive) games and why?
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@zedvictor4
Monarchy is a Global phenomena.
That is not true. Most countries have moved away from a monarchy.
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Semantics aside, don't one-state Israelis and Palestinians generally want the same thing?
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@zedvictor4
Yep, but we know that a two state solution is just a two state solution.

Are you saying that this is the best that can be hoped for?

You're probably right.
If the Palestinians recognize the right of Jews to exist. A two state solution is the answer.
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The 100 men against a gorilla argument
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@TheGreatSunGod
For example if four men were on the gorilla he would not be pinned, his arms vs their weight; he wins
I will say this then, it greatly depends on strength, courage and weight of those men.
If we are talking about some men who weight 60 kilograms, dont work out and have no muscles, then gorilla could easily lift 30 of them all at the same time. And that is just strength of gorilla's arms. Gorilla's legs, teeth and maybe even nails mean much more than few casualties there.
The men have more resources than a gorilla for fighting.
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Should DKIG speech be illegal
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@TheGreatSunGod
It’s japans aging population that is averse to crime
They have low birth rates because they removed focus on family and placed focus on job and studying.

Still, other countries have low birth rates too.
The Japanese aging population are too old to engage in crime.

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What If Everything You Do Was Never Your Choice?
Calvinism has a lot more in common with Islam.
While Calvinism and Islam share some theological similarities, notably in their views on God's sovereignty and predestination, they also differ significantly in their beliefs about the nature of God, Jesus, and salvation.


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The second coming of Christ (not Jesus)
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@Mall
Is Jesus the son of Mary flesh and blood in heaven now?
Jesus was crucified, then resurrected. His resurrected body ascended to heaven. Read your Bible.
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Should DKIG speech be illegal
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@TheGreatSunGod
In Japan, you have free speech as well to say whatever you want there.

There is even manga promoting rape and murder.

But Japan has some of the lowest homicide rates in the world, much lower than USA and much lower than almost any country now.
It’s japans aging population that is averse to crime.
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Pope Donald
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@Tradesecret
Trump has demonstrated his utter contempt for the catholic church.  and for Catholics around the world.  He is a blasphemer. I don't think he is a genius  , but he's not stupid - but having said that - he also very clearly - NOT WISE. 
Trump is the antichrist. He sold Bible with the constitution embedded in it. Then tries to rip the constitution on his second term. Leaving Americans without a constitution.
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Using ai and quantum computing to fill the universe with life
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@zedvictor4
AI is no substitute for a Mars bar.


True.

Though an intelligent hybrid, might be able to experience the sugar rush, or even an orgasm.
Yours is an acquired taste for AI.
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America is fundamentally broken
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@FLRW
Are you a bot?
I am a financial advisor.
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Its not possible to hack a Samsung phone
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@FLRW
Are you a stewardess?
I am into finance.
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Pope Donald
Before becoming pope.

Over the course of five decades, Donald Trump has been accused of sexual assault, tax evasion, money laundering, non-payment of employees, and the defrauding of tenants, customers, contractors, investors, bankers, and charities. Also filed 6 bankruptcies. Trump paid 88.5 million to E.Jean Carroll for raping and defaming her. Trump was charged with paying hush money to porn stat Stormy Daniels to keep secret their sexual encounter while Melania was pregnant with Barron. Trump's false or misleading claims total 30573 over 4 years . Yet, he has continued to amass wealth and power. In this book, criminologist and social historian Gregg Barak asks why and how?
Trump has been impeached twice, indicted 4 times with 91 felony counts. Ordered to pay 88.3 million dollars for sexually assaulting and defaming E.Jean Carroll. Trump was fined 464 million dollars for business fraud and is in court for paying a porn star Stormy Daniels hush money to keep her silent during the elections. Trump's false or misleading claims total 30573 over 4 years Trump has been charged with tax fraud in Chicago to the tune of 100 million dollars. A New York jury on Thursday found Donald Trump guilty on all 34 felony counts of falsifying business records — the first time a former U.S. president has been convicted of a crime.

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@TheGreatSunGod
naught is created
Thats a clear logical fallacy. If things dont need to be created in order to exist, then anything can exist as there is no limit to existence. Simply put, if there are no conditions for existence, then everything is possible, unicorns and Gods.
You keep arguing against your own position.
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Geometry used in magic and religion
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@TheGreatSunGod
Actually, magic has proven healing properties, like religion. Religious people are much less depressed. It’s kinda like free pill for depression which also works. As much as I appreciate atheism, what would you rather have now, magic and purpose or empty randomness? Because the latter isnt comforting.
Jesus too used miracles which was seen as magic.
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The Westernization of Christianity
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@Sir.Lancelot
You are not nearly as funny as you think you are 
Introduce yourself, your profile is mostly blank.

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The evidence for Christian God is overwhelming
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@TheGreatSunGod
Thats a very good topic. Historians usually agree that Jesus existed, and gospels are very consistent in each copy of them ever found.
It was well laid out in the link.

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A poem for 2025 America.
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@FLRW
Rats!
Just say they are Fired!

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liberation day
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@zedvictor4
No such thing as a working communist solution.

Just more ore less tyranny.

Communism is a bourgeois liberal's pipe dream, and an autocrat's excuse.
What is Karl Marx's main theory?


According to orthodox Marxist theory, overthrowing capitalism by a socialist revolution in contemporary society is inevitable. While the inevitability of an eventual socialist revolution is a controversial debate among many different Marxist schools of thought, all Marxists believe socialism is a necessity.

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Is a perfect sales tax actually regressive?
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@Savant
Sales tax is a regressive tax because it takes a bigger percentage of a lower-income person's income than a higher-income person's income. This means that sales tax hits the poor harder than the rich.
A long-term sales tax doesn't tax value from consumers at the point of sale, it taxes value proportionately as soon as it is implemented. Value is not the same as dollars spent. If half my money is covered in paint and made unusable, the burden is the same as if I paid 50% of my money to the government.
If your money is made unusable to the government. They will come for the other half.
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Jesus said
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@FLRW
Sorry wrong sub forum forum.
Trump look’s overdressed.
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top 3 favorite (non-competitive) games and why?
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@zedvictor4
And Like I said, for the everyday person in the street (the majority), everything is exactly the same as before.

The minority are those that concern themselves with the sort of stuff that you refer to.
The Brits opted for BREXIT so they could keep their Monarchy.
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Semantics aside, don't one-state Israelis and Palestinians generally want the same thing?
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@zedvictor4
So as I see it, there isn't a solution, other than the one that the Israelis are currently working on....Which isn't a feasible solution...So not a solution.

Where to go?
A two state solution guarantees the survival of the Jews. When were the Jews given such guarantees?
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The 100 men against a gorilla argument
1 gorilla vs 14 men. That is more of a very grey area.
You give the gorilla the better odds.
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Am I so stupid at math or did I just prove God?
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@TheGreatSunGod
Well, there are many proved positive effects happening. In fact, even if God didnt exist, it would be very beneficial to believe in God. This is a different topic, but related to belief in God.
Pascals Wager is that beneficial argument.
Pascal's Wager is a philosophical argument suggesting that it's rational to believe in God, even if there's no proof of his existence, because the potential rewards of belief (eternal life) outweigh the potential losses (finite inconveniences of believing) if God does exist. It's a form of pragmatic argument, focusing on the practical consequences of belief rather than on providing evidence for it.
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Anime is no longer safe to watch...
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@FLRW
A watering hole or waterhole is a geological depression in which a body of water forms, usually a pond or a small lake.
This was a place to see naked Filipino women.
And water their hole. Therefore a watering hole.
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Protect the 2nd amendment
Sweden is among the most friendly nation to eugenics abortion reasons.

The scandinavian nations have the lowest rated of downs and other such conditions, Denmark has the highest as Germany beneath them is more Catholic and has a very different view on such abortions culturally post-Hitler.

UK has a similar approach to Scandinavian nations to it but as their Cath percent is higher and roots are a lot more Cath, its seen as tabooish but still done more than Germany.

Its all well and good for nations to score high on happiness scales but eugenics leaves less dependents and is a satanic, vile reason behind it.
Eugenics worked in Europe after they got rid of the Jews. They did not need abortion to be successful.
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I hate all muslims except the Talibans
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@vi_777
so technically u r sayin that i shouldnt hv said that huh?
The Taliban are still in power.
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@FLRW
I wouldn't call it that.
You had a different name for a watering hole?
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Using ai and quantum computing to fill the universe with life
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@zedvictor4
I like Milky Way, too.

As kids, we used to bite off all the chocolate first and then eat the filling.

My mum would refrigerate Mars Bars and slice them up.

We have a lot to thank Mars Inc for.

The first Mars Bar was made in Slough England in 1932.
AI is no substitute for a Mars bar.
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@FLRW
No, I was working at Naval bases near them.
The strip club was your watering hole?
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Working out, yet I still find push ups much harder than dips
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@zedvictor4
That's what I said.

Blocking is little more than a futile protest.
Wouldn’t work in any sport.
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@FLRW
I have also been to strip clubs in Olongapo in the Philippine's.
Is that why you travel to those countries?
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A poem for 2025 America.
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@FLRW
And there you go, sweet pea. 
Flattery will get you nowhere.
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Is a perfect sales tax actually regressive?
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@FLRW
Sales tax is a regressive tax because it takes a bigger percentage of a lower-income person's income than a higher-income person's income. This means that sales tax hits the poor harder than the rich.
Poverty is regressive. It hits the poor harder than the rich.
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America is fundamentally broken
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@FLRW
It's me not my. Are you a bot?
Sorry that was a typo.
It should have read:”Because you posted below then added me as a friend.”
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Working out, yet I still find push ups much harder than dips
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@FLRW
So just say you were happy to be blocked.
I am happy my posts are not blocked and can be read by all.
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Its not possible to hack a Samsung phone
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@FLRW
I'm still asking you.
Ar3 you saying your OMG did not reply?
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Am I so stupid at math or did I just prove God?
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@TheGreatSunGod
It’s my definition of believers here. The debate is just about if some God exists and probability for that.
The evidence is in the minds of the believers. That is where God makes his presence known.
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Geometry used in magic and religion
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@TheGreatSunGod
What I see in magic sometimes are undefined shapes. These are usually shapes which dont follow usual geometry shapes. I consider these to be good as well, but they are more difficult to work with, and its more difficult to figure out how to combine them with words.

Usually, the goal is that lines in shape connect words to form a message. With undefined shapes, this is more difficult because lines must follow consistent rules of connecting words, the connection line must be same, otherwise message could get mixed up, and rule of consistency of message wouldnt apply.
You built your own argument for simplicity.
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