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The second coming of Christ (not Jesus)
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@fauxlaw
I've mentioned in a string begun by Sir.Lancelot, I think. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Have the Mormons reinstated polygamy?
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The evidence for Christian God is overwhelming
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@TheGreatSunGod
The evidence is just too much for me here. Jesus is basically everything what you would expect of an all good God to be, and I have to say these past few days where really overwhelming for me. I mean, I am not Christian, but I cant deny that there is something in Christianity. I can understand why people believe in it. They probably had small miracles happen in their own life which they cant explain in any other way but divine. I had things happen in my life with different types of magic, but I cant explain why Christians have any miracles if their God isnt real.


Check the link.
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The Westernization of Christianity
Where I am from is irrelevant.
It must be a rat infested country.
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Am I so stupid at math or did I just prove God?
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@TheGreatSunGod
focusing on the practical consequences of belief
Thats the unproved premise which I am talking about. Even if we assume that the only Gods possible are the ones listed in Pascal's wager, the idea that good atheists go to Hell is not just unproved, but basically insane.
The aim is not to prove atheists go to hell. It is to save atheists from going to hell in the most practical and simple way.
Pascal's Wager is a philosophical argument suggesting that it's rational to believe in God, even if there's no proof of his existence, because the potential rewards of belief (eternal life) outweigh the potential losses (finite inconveniences of believing) if God does exist. It's a form of pragmatic argument, focusing on the practical consequences of belief rather than on providing evidence for it.
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top 3 favorite (non-competitive) games and why?
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@zedvictor4
Nah.

We're still in the same place, about 20 miles from France.

We have a tunnel don't you know and the French haven't closed the doors yet.

And like I said, apart for passport controls, everything is just about the same as before.

They still come here to see Buckingham Palace and we still go there to see the Eifel tower.

Politicians bluster and ordinary folk just do ordinary folk stuff.
You must belong to a minority. Brexit has had a complex and multifaceted impact on the UK, with economic, social, and political consequences. Economically, it has led to a decrease in trade with the EU, reduced investment, and a fall in UK GDP, according to various reports. Socially, Brexit has affected immigration patterns and travel, while politically, it has reshaped the relationship between the UK and the EU.


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Semantics aside, don't one-state Israelis and Palestinians generally want the same thing?
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@zedvictor4
Basically Israelites and Palestinians were the same thing.

Though these days, Jews and Palestinians are not necessarily the same thing as they were previously.

And we should all realise by now that a one State solution ain't never going to work, because it ain't what either side want.

For sure there are some good folk who would rather live a peaceful life...Problem is though  these sort of people don't call the shots...The shooting is generally inspired by theo-political nut jobs and carried out by gullible sycophants.

And of course, arms sales and the Eurovision Song Contest are big business...Middle eastern Transsexuals deserve a platform, don't they.

Clever stupid gene.
Just like you have two races Jews and Palestinians.A two state solution is the only answer.

two-state solution, proposed framework for resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict by establishing two states for two peoples: Israel for the Jewish people and Palestine for the Palestinian people. In 1993 the Israeli government and the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) agreed on a plan to implement a two-state solution as part of the Oslo Accords, leading to the establishment of the Palestinian Authority (PA). As the only framework with bilateral and formal agreement, the two-state solution remains the consensus of the international community, although proposals for a one-state framework are often floated as an alternative.
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Protect the 2nd amendment
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@RemyBrown
I want to keep my gun rights and I don't care if 2000 children die from mass shootings a year.

This is not satire, but if it makes you feel uncomfterable, then you should support banning all guns.  But I'm not empathetic because I'm autistic, so I won't want to ban all guns.
Guns can help reduce the autistic population among us.
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Am I so stupid at math or did I just prove God?
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@TheGreatSunGod
Believers simply believe in some God. I merely proved that some God is likely to exist, thus some believers are likely to be right.

Again, Pascal's wager is a different argument entirely here. Pascal's wager is based on idea that according to all Gods which are known and popular so far, atheists in much more options end up in worse place in the afterlife than Christians.

But Pascal's wager is ultimately flawed because even if we take one premise as true, it is not certain that atheists go to hell in Islam or Christianity. Bad people go to hell, and believers can be bad people while atheists dont need to be bad. In that sense, Pascal's wager is basically just folk logic and a very weak argument here. I generally stay away from that argument because it takes much more effort to defend it, and proving the premises is almost impossible.
You got it all wrong. Pascal’s wages does not need to be defended or its premise proven. It's a form of pragmatic argument, focusing on the practical consequences of belief rather than on providing evidence for it.
Pascal's Wager is a philosophical argument suggesting that it's rational to believe in God, even if there's no proof of his existence, because the potential rewards of belief (eternal life) outweigh the potential losses (finite inconveniences of believing) if God does exist. It's a form of pragmatic argument, focusing on the practical consequences of belief rather than on providing evidence for it.



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Working out, yet I still find push ups much harder than dips
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@zedvictor4
Ratman was around previously.

Similarly entitled.


The thing with blocking, is the blockers ability to ignore, rather than an inability of the blocked to post a comment.
It is the opposite. The blocked has the ability to ignore and continue to post comments…while the blocker sees the posted comments he had hoped to block.
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Semantics aside, don't one-state Israelis and Palestinians generally want the same thing?
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@Savant
If you're Israeli and don't support a one-state solution, what's your plan to winning against Hamas? It's pretty clear Israel doesn't want to do nothing, but if they conquer Palestine, we're back to the one state idea. If you don't like that Hamas breaks ceasefires, then you should want a unified government that can enforce terms.

If you're Palestinian, support democracy, and believe that "from the river to the sea, Palestine should be free," then isn't one state what you want? Wouldn't it be easier to achieve this through negotiations rather than warfare? Is it worth bombing Israel for decades just to call the country a different word?
A two state solution is the only answer.
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America is fundamentally broken
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@FLRW
Why are you so close to me on Most active members?

Because you posted below then added my as a friend.
I also only Friend people that in my opinion have an IQ greater than 130.

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The second coming of Christ (not Jesus)
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@Mall
So to get it on record and do like the scripture say, yea or nay, is the son Jesus of Mary, flesh and blood in heaven now?
The Bible says Jesus ascended to heaven witnessed by many.

In Christian belief, the Ascension of Jesus is the event where Jesus, after his resurrection, ascends into heaven. This event is believed to have occurred on the 40th day after his resurrection. Christian doctrine holds that Jesus was then exalted as Lord and Christ, seated at the right hand of God.




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The Westernization of Christianity
No. Luther was 1500s prot.

EO vs Caths began much before that as Byzantines vs Roman Caths.
Yes, Martin Luther, a German monk, broke away from the Catholic Church, which sparked the Protestant Reformation in 1517. He disagreed with the Church's teachings, particularly on indulgences and papal authority, and challenged its practices. In 1521, he was excommunicated by Pope Leo X and condemned as an outlaw by the Holy Roman Empire, solidifying the split.
Key Points of the Split:
Indulgences:
Luther criticized the sale of indulgences, which were believed to grant forgiveness for sins in exchange for payment.
Papal Authority:
He questioned the Pope's power and authority, arguing that the Bible should be the ultimate source of religious truth.
Salvation:
Luther's teachings emphasized salvation through faith alone, rather than through good works, as the Catholic Church believed.
Excommunication:
Pope Leo X excommunicated Luther in 1521 for his views and refusal to recant his teachings.
Diet of Worms:
In 1521, the Holy Roman Emperor Charles V condemned Luther at the Diet of Worms, declaring him an outlaw.
The Protestant Reformation:
Luther's actions and ideas led to a widespread religious movement known as the Protestant Reformation.
This movement challenged the authority of the Catholic Church and resulted in the formation of new Christian denominations, including Lutheranism.
The Reformation had a profound impact on European history, influencing politics, culture, and society.

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Mall's video debate summary - Did Jesus invent Christianity? Can you be holy and sin?
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@Clausewitzian
Yeah, so it's Paul's word, against all the previous disciples. Paul's word about the divinity of Christ, Paul's word and interpretation about the abandonment of the covenant between God and the Israelites. Paul who turned what was a sect of Judaism into something devoid of Jewishness, except the disciples who continued their practice of Judaism until their dying day. 

The evidence of all this comes from one man who never met Christ in the flesh, yet knew him well enough to contradict earlier teachings, and the original disciples. 

Doesn't hold much weight.
Yes, the apostle Paul received his Christian faith and teachings through a direct revelation from Jesus Christ, not from humans. He stated in Galatians 1:11-12 that he received the gospel "not from man, nor was I taught it, but I received it through a revelation of Jesus Christ". This revelation occurred on the road to Damascus, where Jesus appeared to Saul and told him to go to the city and he would be told what to do.

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trump Pardons Ross Ulbricht keeping promise to Libertarians
I watched the video made it seem like Trump was laughing like a mustache twirling villain at the popes death and then declaring himself pope after mocking the popes death. 
Sometimes cabbage seems like cabbage.
Trump sounds like garbage most of the time.
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A poem for 2025 America.
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@FLRW
I think you mean retailieating
Check your spelling.
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Why do you use profanity?
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@FLRW
Yes, my key to longevity is the same as Ernest Borgnine's.
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
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Am I a Xenephobe
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@FLRW
Trump has the lowest IQ of any US President. A document discovered in May 2019 reveals that Donald Trump's IQ was measured at 73 during his high school years.
Trump is older than his diminishing IQ.
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Am I so stupid at math or did I just prove God?
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@Double_R
Almost forgot

Can a 5 sided triangle exist? Yes or No?
I'd like a straightforward answer to this.
It won’t be called a triangle even if it exists.
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America is fundamentally broken
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@FLRW
Well, she is easy to look at.
Even through those glasses?
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Its not possible to hack a Samsung phone
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@FLRW
I'm asking you.
OMG, were you a stewardess on the " Lolita Express"?
You addressed your question to OMG. Read it.
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top 3 favorite (non-competitive) games and why?
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@zedvictor4
Well, I'm an Earth colonist and share this tiny speck of cosmic dust with 8 billion or so other people and countless other trillions of lifeforms.

No room for isolationism.

In fact, it is reckoned that I share my body with about 39 trillion bacteria...( Not sure who counted them).
BREXIT marked your exit from Europe. You will rot alone.
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A poem for 2025 America.
Nobody pays cause nobody is buying that crap.
The world is retaliating with their own tariffs
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liberation day
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@7000series
It seems that you won't guess, so I will just tell you that Peng Dehuai was his name.
Just another communist hero.

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We should deport black people back to Africa
Time for an African Pope.
By 2030 the majority of Christians will be in Africa.
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Muhammad cannot be the prophet Moses and Abraham were waiting for.
Where in this thread did I blaspheme the Holy Spirit?
Your very presence is blasphemy.
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Choosing to live forever or choosing to die for the afterlife
After Vatican II (1960s) it is allowed to bury urn with our ashes in.
 Is we have to deal with ashes.
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Am I so stupid at math or did I just prove God?
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@TheGreatSunGod
That's when you build your conclusion into the premise.
So when you build in your premise as assumption that logic applies to God, what exactly are you proving here?

Again, the problem in your logic is:
1. Many people agree that by definition, God is above laws of logic.
2. If God is by definition above logic, your premise 1 is false by definition.

That is the problem in your case
Yes, it takes faith to believe in God.

Faith is a strong belief in something that cannot be proven with certainty, and believing in God often involves trusting in God's existence and plan, even when it's not immediately evident.
 




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The Westernization of Christianity
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@Mall
Man invented.
The split in the church into different denominations was man invented.
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The second coming of Christ (not Jesus)
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@Mall
The son of Mary was flesh and blood. Is he flesh and blood in heaven right now?
The statement "flesh and blood cannot enter heaven" is a common interpretation of 1 Corinthians 15:50, which states that the perishable (flesh and blood) cannot inherit the imperishable (kingdom of God). This phrase highlights the concept of spiritual transformation and the need for a changed body to participate in the eternal life of God's kingdom.


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Mall's video debate summary - Did Jesus invent Christianity? Can you be holy and sin?
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@Clausewitzian
I suspect, Saul felt the sect would die if more weren't allowed to join. Therefor he got rid of circumcision, sabbath, kosher, and many other things required of jews, to make the faith appear more welcoming to Gentiles, and it worked. Gentiles joined fast, and the faith spread steadily. 
Jesus appeared to Paul in a vision and asked him to stop persecuting Christians.
Paul's Three Encounters with Christ Jesus in Acts - Taylor ...Yes, the Bible records that Jesus appeared to Paul in a vision on the road to Damascus. This event is described in Acts 9, where Paul, then known as Saul, was persecuting Christians. While traveling to Damascus, he was struck by a bright light and heard a voice asking him why he was persecuting Jesus. Paul then identified the voice as Jesus, and this experience led to his conversion and subsequent ministry as an apostle.


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AI mathematically proves that there is 99% chance God exists
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@TheGreatSunGod
The only possible challenge to this argument would be that chance of each independent God existing must be 0. I repeat: must be 0. This essentially means that the only way to disprove this argument is to disprove all Gods into 0% probability.
And the is beyond AI.
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A poem for 2025 America.
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@FLRW
That would mean an American brain.
  Yes!
Who believe Trump tariffs are paid by foreign governments.
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liberation day
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@7000series
Although he received little in the way of education from his peasant background, he was a genius, bringing victory after victory to China. During the Great Leap Forward, he criticized Mao for being blinded by his ideology, at the expense of, during the Cultural Revolution, his life. Fake communists rule from the top, real communists rule from the bottom.
You know a lot for a high schooler.
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Why do you use profanity?
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@FLRW
Hey, I am not gay!
You are a self pleaser.
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Elon Musk Roman Salute
The same people insisting Musk is a Nazi are the same ones insisting "Maryland Man" isn't a gangbanger.

Make it make sense.
Elon Musk supports Trump who is of German ancestry and does the Nazi salute for his crowds.
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The Westernization of Christianity
That split is gaslighting, sayuing caths split from Ortho is misleading. EO were a mutation ofnthe Nicenes and stem from a shift from OG Nicaeans to Byzantines. Caths moved west but kept tje same principles of papacy and the structure while EO made it fit cukture rather than God.
The church split came because of Martin Luther and the Lutheran church.
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Is civilian warfare self-defense?
His 2nd coming is the end of the world.
That is why God delayed it.
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Thoughts on the Jews
Wrong. Other than formerly Pagan Greece who is nearly all Christians now, Christians are the founders of modern science in general especially medicine.
Christians did not need science or medicine. The gifts of the Holy Spirit allowed them to perform miracles .
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@Sir.Lancelot
There’s definitely arguments of which came first. Orthodox say they came first, and vice-versa.
The Roman Catholic Church came first.
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Using ai and quantum computing to fill the universe with life
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@zedvictor4
Elon Musk wants to be seen as a flexible person.
Needs to take up yoga then.
Doge should demand flexibility.
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America is fundamentally broken
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@FLRW
Ok, Ok
You given in to easy.
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Working out, yet I still find push ups much harder than dips
I am blocking you as you are a consistent troll.
You have been around for less than a month, Ratman.
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Its not possible to hack a Samsung phone
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@FLRW
OMG, were you a stewardess on the " Lolita Express"?
Why are you asking God if he was a stewardess on the “Lolita Express”?
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A poem for 2025 America.
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@FLRW
Because he has the brain of a Trumper.
That would mean an American brain.
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liberation day
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@7000series
No matter where you live, today is liberation day, for today is the first of May, known as international workers day.
And so, with righteousness in our hearts, let us all change our profile pictures into the faces of our great communist leaders, both past and present!
Canada never had a communist leader.
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How much do you value free speech?
So hypothetically speaking, If Donald Trump said he would have a woman raped if you continued to criticize him, you would stay silent?
I would report him to Melania.
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The second coming of Christ (not Jesus)
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@Mall
Do you believe Jesus the son of Mary is in heaven now according to the scripture?
Yes, the scriptures and Jesus says he is in heaven living in his fathers house.

John 14:2-3
2 My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am


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@FLRW
I retired from work when I was 54 which was 25 years ago.
You mean you quit early.
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How much do you value free speech?
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@TheGreatSunGod
Well, it’s the best I can come up with regarding free speech causing one rape in real world. Limiting it to speech of one specific person would require knowledge of exactly which person's speech caused someone to commit rape, which is not really possible to determine at all in real world.
You admit it is not possible to determine which persons speech caused someone to commit rape.
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