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@Mall
12.27.2024 11:19AM325-->@<<<Mall>>>"And if as you say the BIBLE teaches us not to judge others then this contradicts the command that those that commit" homosexual abominations "against god should be put to death, doesn't it? ""Let's get the quotes right . I believe Sidewalker is quoting you Stephen.
That is being judgemental.
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@MAV99
So god is a spirit, he appears to us as the Holy Spirit, he also appeared to us as Jesus.Your post#98You here are using language that implies sameness between two persons. You have to be careful. It would be better to say it as "God is a Trinity of three Persons. God the Son became Man and The Holy Spirit is the Comforter or Paraclete."Like I said, I do not think you intend heresy. But I think you are using language that is ambiguous and leads one to think that there is a sameness between two persons. That is why I brought in Modalism. That is the type of language they used when discussing this. You have to be careful how you say it.
St Thomas Aquinas sees the same sameness in the Trinity.
Aquinas says that the alleged consequence would follow only if the persons were the same both in thing and in concept. But they are not; they are merely the same thing.
This move is puzzling. Aquinas holds that the three are not merely similar or derived from the same source, but are in some strong sense the same, but not identical (i.e. numerically the same) which he appears to understand as sameness in both thing and concept. Even this last is surprising; one would think that for Aquinas “sameness in thing” just is identity, and that “sameness in concept” would mean that we apply the same concept to some apparent things (whether or not they are in fact one or many). Christopher Hughes holds that Aquinas is simply confused, his desire for orthodoxy having led him into this (and other) necessary falsehoods. On Hughes’s reading, Aquinas does think of “sameness in thing” as identity, but he incoherently holds it to be non-transitive (i.e. if A and B are identical, and B and C are identical, it doesn’t follow that A and C are identical), while in some contexts assuming (correctly) that it is transitive (Hughes 1989, 217–40).
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@FLRW
Japanese people their concept of religion is often more focused on practices and harmony with nature than strict doctrinal beliefs.
Most religions have not achieved harmony with nature and are constantly stirring up human conflict.
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@Mall
So every last one of you celebrating Christmas, you not taking the lead but going along with okey doke.
But in actuality you demonstrate your own mind, your own creativity outside of convention.
Just food for thought.
Don't follow, lead.
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@cristo71
They have an incredible culture too.
That Americans would love to imitate.
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@Savant
recent x post by Elon MuskWe're surprised that someone born in another country is hiring people from other countries? May as well say all of Elon Musk's American employees are stealing jobs from South Africans
Exactly, Elon Musk made all his money in America. Now he wants to tell Americans how to live.
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@MAV99
Read your Bible.I do.I think I will stick with an actually approved Theologian of the Catholic Church to explain the teaching that the Catholic Church safeguards regarding the Bible
Are you going to ignore Jesus and the Holy Spirit?
Read your Bible and follow what it says.
John 14:26
The Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you everything and make you remember all that I have told you
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If you say so. I don't believe it. But a forewarning for what?
To let his people go.
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@Mall
Yeah he was a scholar while Paul was a debater.
Debating is putting someone down in a competition. Scholars share their learnings.
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@ILikePie5
Do you celebrate new years day?Yes
Is that another pasta celebration?
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@Best.Korea
Are you calling me smart because I am nice?Yes.
Love thy neighbour but be likeable yourself works.
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@MAV99
So unless you want to deny The Church's authority, you might want to think twice about throwing out St. Thomas' work. I think he knows better than you do.
Read your Bible.
John 14:26
The Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you everything and make you remember all that I have told you
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@lacr3000
The effective tax rate for the rich was 45%
Those days are never coming back.
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@Mall
Are you artificial intelligence?
No, it is just natural intelligence.
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@Best.Korea
Japanese people are some of the nicest people I have ever met.Smart people are usually nice.
Are you calling me smart because I am nice?
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@Double_R
Why are you guys like this?Don't know, ask the people who are.
Liberals accept people for who they are and not what they are?
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@MAV99
Summa Theologica Prima Pars, Question 31, article 2.Read the Respondeo. St. Thomas condemns what you said.Go read it. I gave you the reference.If you want, I can even take a picture from my own copy of the Summa and send it to you.
Your source should be the Bible and Jesus.
How did Jesus explain the Trinity?
Early Christians thought Jesus first referred to the Trinity in Matthew 28:19, by stating, "in the name of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit." In John 10:30, Jesus said, "I and my Father are one." The belief in the Holy Trinity emerged during the life and/or shortly after the death and resurrection of ...
Did Jesus talk about the Holy Trinity?
He did not specifically refer to the term Trinity but did describe God in what we would call trinitarian terms or formulations. Jesus described God as "the Father", he described himself as God's son, and one with God the Father, and described the Holy Spirit as somehow proceeding from both the Father and himself.
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@MAV99
Thomas Aquinas quote: Therefore God the father is the son and is the Holy Spirit, and that these are not three but one God.Where is the reference for this?Do you have one?
It is in the first paragraph of the link you provided. Doesn’t look like you read it yourself.
A Summa of the Summa | Part 1, The Holy Trinity : Faith (The Divine Trinity) | Summary
Summary
St. Thomas Aquinas begins his teaching on the Trinity by asserting that "God is Father, God is Son, and God is Holy Spirit," and that these are not three but one God.
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What happened has already happened, and what will be has already been.
The plagues in the Bible were purposefully sent by God with a forewarning.
What are the 10 plagues in the Bible?
The Ten Plagues of Egypt in Order | Exodus | History
The Ten Plagues of Egypt in Order are: water turning to blood, frogs, lice, flies, livestock pestilence, boils, hail, locusts, darkness, and the killing of firstborn children. These plagues are recorded in the Bible, and were sent by God after Pharaoh refused to let the Israelites leave Egypt.
What is the story of Moses and the plagues?
Did the 10 Plagues of Egypt Really Happen? | TIME
As the Passover story tells it, after Pharaoh refuses Moses' entreaties to let the enslaved Israelites go free, God sends a series of ten plagues to pressure the Egyptian ruler. Each time, Pharaoh promises to free the Israelites, but reverses his decision when the plague is lifted — until the last one.
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@FLRW
Japanese people are some of the nicest people I have ever met.
They have an incredible culture too.
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Japanese cars are superior and mostly built in the United States jack ass
Toyota and Honda are built in Canada.
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@MAV99
am backed by the Catholic Church.No you are not. What you said "God the Father is the Son and The Holy Spirit" is explicitly condemned in the Council of Nicea.
I stick to my Catholic teachings which match St Thomas Aquinas.
Therefore God the father is the son and is the Holy Spirit, and that these are not three but one God.
1 John 5:7
There are three in heaven who prove it is true. They are the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit. These three are one
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@MAV99
Therefore God the father is the son and is the Holy Spirit, and that these are not three but one God.This is sabellionism. This is what St. Thomas taught against. I am not calling St. Thomas a sabellionist.What you said in the quote above is what St. Thomas said, but it is out of context and you clearly lack the understanding behind those words he is using. You are twisting them to your own understanding in order to save face.
How am I twisting St Thomas’s quote which backs my quote of 1 John 5:7.
1 John 5:7
There are three in heaven who prove it is true. They are the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit. These three are one
St Thomas Aquinas quote: Therefore God the father is the son and is the Holy Spirit, and that these are not three but one God.
Nature is not the same thing as personhood.The nature of God is not determined by what function He is doing.
Jesus was the second person who appeared in human form and could be seen and touched. The third person appeared as the Holy Spirit . Because it was a spirit no one saw it. Each performed a different function.
If you haven't studied the philosophy or theology of this, I would not recommend you keep posting.
I stick to my Catholic teachings which match St Thomas Aquinas.
Therefore God the father is the son and is the Holy Spirit, and that these are not three but one God.
1 John 5:7
There are three in heaven who prove it is true. They are the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit. These three are one
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Is it non sexual?Correct. If looking at guys gives you a bone you are same sex attracted unless it is Sean Connery. If you fuck a guy, it makes you homosexual
You follow very simple guidelines.
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@Mall
Are you artificial intelligence?
Good trick question.
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They are dealers.
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@Best.Korea
Sure, but God made the world, so they both screwed me.
You have some powerful enemies.
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@MAV99
Look up "sabellionism" because that is the heresy you just stated.
From post#129
The three were equal in nature, meaning equally important in their roles. Each performed a different function.
Jesus was the second person who appeared in human form and could be seen and touched. The third person appeared as the Holy Spirit . Because it was a spirit no one saw it.
I am backed by the Catholic Church.
These councils affirmed that God is one, but made the distinction between Person and nature, teaching that the Son and the Holy Spirit are separate Persons who share one divine nature with the Father.
I quoted from your link on St Thomas Aquinas.
God is Father, God is Son, and God is Holy Spirit," and that these are not three but one God.
Now you are calling St Thomas Aquinas and his quote “sabellionism”.
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@Mall
No no. Not necessarily, you choose the date for yourself. If you think you don't have your own mind by adhering to my suggestion, well you still don't have it by adhering to society either.But in actuality you demonstrate your own mind, your own creativity outside of convention.Just food for thought.Don't follow, lead.
Good advice not to follow your lead.
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@Mall
Hey, dodge the challenge if you can't defend your belief or position strongly enough.. I think the scripture say seek not what is above what you could understand.....I think it says .....if the way be too long for thee.
I picked up my scriptures from Harikrish the biblical scholar. He was not a debater either.
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@Best.Korea
Japan used anime on USA and made US population mentally retarded. We call that "revenge of the Emperor".
Better than revenge. Force Americans to buy Japanese cars.
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@Best.Korea
Well, I was supposed to be born in Japan, but God screwed me.
You mean your parents screwed you up. They chose where to give birth to you.
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@Mall
What entails same sex attraction, what is involved in that to constitute that?Is it non sexual?
It is a sexual preference.
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@MAV99
That means three distinct persons. The Father is not The Son, The Son is not The Holy Ghost,etc.
Here you are wrong again.
God is Father, God is Son, and God is Holy Spirit," and that these are not three but one God.
Therefore God the father is the son and is the Holy Spirit, and that these are not three but one God.
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@Best.Korea
Thats plenty of people in USA who support evil, considering that those who support Trump support Hitler.
Remember America was the first country to go nuclear and the first country to use the atom bomb on Japan.
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Gangs in America exist. Everyone knows this. No one is pretending they don't, no one is pretending it's not an issue.Then why say that it's not an issue when the right brings it up and instead nitpicking over obvious hyperbole and try to downplay the problem?
I think he said: no one is pretending it's not an issue.
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@Best.Korea
Okay, so learning a new language increases intelligence. Learning Japanese probably does even more so, since they are one of the smartest nations on Earth.Plus, all anime is in Japanese, and I dont have great trust in translations.Also, Emperor spoke Japanese.So yes, there is a great need to learn Japanese.
Your profile says you live in Japan. One would expect you to learn and speak Japanese.
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@Double_R
Gangs in America exist. Everyone knows this. No one is pretending they don't, no one is pretending it's not an issue.
MAGA gangs are more violent Eg Jan 6 rioters on Capitol Hill.
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@Sidewalker
Eggs are $3.00 a dozen, only fascism can save us from expensive eggs.
You mean Trump the fascist can save us from expensive eggs.
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@MAV99
I did and it proves your interpretation of St Thomas Aquinas was wrong and I was right.
Listing your post where you said God could not be the same person as the father and is the same as the person of the Holy Ghost. In fact God is all three. God is Father, God is Son, and God is Holy Spirit," and that these are not three but one God.
God is a spirit, he appears to us as the Holy Spirit.
Your post#72No He does not. That would mean the Person if the Father is the same as the Person of the Holy Ghost, which is heresy.
But St Thomas says exactly that it is the same god appearing as the father, as the son and as theHoly Spirit.
God is Father, God is Son, and God is Holy Spirit," and that these are not three but one God.
Your post#76They are the same Substantially.They are not the same person.All are God. Each one is God. But they are not each other. We cannot say the Father appears as the Holy Spirit. That would imply they are the same Person.
But St Thomas says exactly that it is the same god appearing as the father, as the son and as theHoly Spirit.
God is Father, God is Son, and God is Holy Spirit," and that these are not three but one God.
Your post #91Have you actually studied this? To say God the Father is God the Holy Spirit is explicitly condemned. The Church Fathers condemned it.What you assert is called modalism. It was condemned in the early Church by the Church Fathers.
St Thomas says God is Father, God is Son, and God is Holy Spirit," and that these are not three but one God.
Your post#95I deny that each person is the same one person because that is what "God the Father appears to us as the Holy Spirit" means, which is what you said. To say that is to say that they are the same person which is wrong.One God, 3 distinct Persons. Each Person is not the other.
But St Thomas says exactly that the same God is all three. God is Father, God is Son, and God is Holy Spirit," and that these are not three but one God.
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@Mall
That's is what you've been doing in this forum is debating.
I have been involved in discussions on selective topics.
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@Mall
Yes , the religion of Santa Claus, snow man, elf, etc.
Is that your religion for the season?
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@sadolite
Oh that clears things up, the words of the ex wife. Tell me, what exactly am I supposed to with your 4th hand media regurgitation? Just believe it and condemn Elon Musk and demand that he be thrown in jail? Who the fuck are you? You are a fucking nobody with no knowledge of anything other than what you regurgitate from media which has zero credibility.
The media was the first to report what Elon Musk’s Trans daughter told them about the abuse she received from the father.
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@FLRW
I asked AI, Quantum entanglement does not explain spirituality does it?The response was:This statement is correct; while quantum entanglement might seem to suggest a deep interconnectedness at the subatomic level, it does not provide any scientific basis for explaining spiritual concepts or experiences, as spirituality often deals with subjective and metaphysical ideas that are currently beyond the scope of physics.
If spirituality is beyond the scope of science. You should have asked , Is it beyond the scope of A.I.?
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God takes care of the death part by giving them diseases like aids and monkey pox
God is famous for sending plagues.
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@FLRW
OMG, now I think I look like Sean Cahill on Suits.
Have you compared the two of you recently?
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@FLRW
Obviously there has to be a Universe with smarter beings than this Universe.
The multiverse is science fiction.
Science fiction has been exploring the multiverse for decades, using it as a backdrop for some of the most exciting and imaginative stories ever told. In many science fiction stories, the idea of the multiverse is used to explain why events or realities can be so different from one universe to another.
For example, in the popular television series “Sliders,” the main characters travel between parallel universes, discovering different versions of Earth with different historical events, social structures, and even physical laws.
Another example is the science fiction classic, “The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy,” in which the multiverse is used as a tool for satire and comedy. In the story, the main character, Arthur Dent, travels from one universe to another, encountering strange and absurd realities along the way.
The concept of the multiverse is as crucial as that of time travel. In fact, in some of the concepts, when you jump to an alternate timeline, you have hopped into another multiverse where things played out differently.
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@Lemming
Christmas dinner, and listened to A Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens.What was the movie you watched?
What movies did you watch?
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