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@Discipulus_Didicit
I think it is obvious why he didn't and we should just lynch him
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Just PM me. I will give you the plan and help you for the time being
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Seriously need time away. Building my business,learning German and still teaching myself coding. I probably am hyper manic with all this going on right now but I might as well go with the flow and do productive things for the time being
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@drafterman
Not really. If forced to I guess I can but it will suck to be a neutral third party. If nobody else steps up I can do it
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@drafterman
The time is June. As stated earlier in the thread by thett
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@Dr.Franklin
As already stated. It is a temporary dip just after the act. No evidence the dip is sustained
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@Dr.Franklin
The point is you are silly and there is not a lower chance of prostate cancer in priests. Good luck with your prostate cancer from no fap
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@TheRealNihilist
That is correct and sad, bei g a spaz is typical of you.
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I wouldn't even be surprised. If oro and Zaradi are both scum and this is some wierd gambit.
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VTNL
I don't trust Zaradi right now, but I assume this question is easier to answer with an extra night under our belt
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@drafterman
Imagine saying no PM exists and then warning about displaying contents of a PM. By the way, the COC mentioned an exception of displaying mod PMsThe laugh-ability of this proposal aside, I feel it necessary to remind you that it is against the CoC to post the contents of a PM without the consent of all parties to that PM.
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@drafterman
supa was lying a lot about his role pm and how his role works. The wagon was not stupid. I am thinking you are scum because of your retarded logic
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@Zaradi
I just need to reread some things. My confidence is shot now. I think lunatic is scum, but I need to take my time with more careful analysis.
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There is nothing wrong with masturbation. For women like me it reduces menstruation cramps and for men it reduces the chances of getting prostate cancer
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Just don't. I only no fap because I lose energy during the day but have no problem doing g it just before bedtime or something. I also only have sex at night u less it with some strange for the same reasons
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Stop talking shit about humans. We are stronger than you think
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What the fuck is wrong with supa lol. Did he make a honest mistake and then randomly decide to cover it up with lies. What is wrong with him
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@drafterman
Also chris best said it was true that diversity is discussed when thinking of adding people to the mod team. I will provide screenshots of these PMs if all the mods involved can promise to step down if I show them
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@drafterman
The leak was from about 1 week after virtuoso was named head mod. You were not privy to those conversations
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@MisterChris
"None of this is true".
Then goes on to confirm everything I said was true using rhetoric more preferable to him but with the same exact meaning
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Anyone wondering why I called him zoo lover, or how I know he loves zoos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN4dOU_1hoA
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@TheRealNihilist
None of my posts here mention Trump. Stop eating crayons for one second and figure out what the fuck somebody is saying before responding, Okay short bus?
Conservatives just can't help themselves and pick on people who can't fight back. Who would've thought?If it wasn't clear I don't think anyone wants to be a Mcdonalds employee or working in a grocery store. They maybe doing it for a part-time job or actually have to work in that well not what people call their dream job. Here we have at worst someone berating people for things they can't help. They didn't choose to be given a bad set of cards which led them to working for Mcdonalds or a grocery store but that goes right over your head.
Nobody is berating anybody. There are numerous people on the site with actual proven real life leadership. It makes more sense to give leadership positions to them than to people who nobody trusts with such roles once they get to know them in the real world. Please learn to read more carefully Zoo lover.
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@drafterman
Well, I define the position as "legitimate" if it has formal power. So we seem to be on the same page as it not having any power or role with moderation.So if you guys want to play pretend president, more (fake) power to you.
So you are okay with us doing anything that doesn't threaten the monopoly of power by democratizing it. Good to know hitler.
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@drafterman
If you have no rebuttals and have to resort to that, just admit you are wrong and apologize and then work on not being evil. How much money have you given to charity in the past 12 months?
"That said, I won’t stop you guys from choosing a President, they’ll just have no official moderation duty and won’t be endorsed by the mods." - Virt"This is not to say that I am entirely opposed to the idea of a presidency, I am open to it, but I would echo Drafterman in saying it would be solely a "voice." I do not believe we can or should give executive power to such a presidency unless the mods are required to vote to confirm the inauguration." - christopher
Thanks for proving my point that it would be a legitimate position with no formal powers. The rest of what you wrote is just doubling down on the fact you are an evil piece of shit. Offering no rebuttals of my points proves them true. I could easily respond with dismissive points like "cool story", but I am not an evil piece of shit like you.
The fact you admit your position has a very tiny if any bit of power at all, and still seek to monopolize it is sad and pathetic
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I agree, so I was surprised that, despite it being said, you would ask again for Virt to host the election and figure out how it will play out. Because that would be moderation playing an active role in this and acknowledging the legitimacy of the position which is not consistent with the stance of moderation at this point
I have not heard anyone other than you say it would not be a legitimate position. I think this supports my theory there is a desire for a monopoly of power. Clearly it is meant to be a legitimate role with no formal powers.
When Virt originally said this your immediate response was to say: "I would actually not accept what Virtuoso said." So you are explicitly diametrically opposed to the President not having a role within the moderation team.
This is what I would use my imaginary powers to try and achieve. The moderation team as is, is terrible. If I were interviewing these people I would never hire them for the job. I don't see reducing the standards merely because it is an unpaid position. There are people of higher quality willing to take the position. Previously you had a person who sat in Mcdonalds all day and typed on his computer. Now you have somebody who stocks shelves at a grocery store and is bullied by everyone in his personal life. These are not the type of people who should be in positions of authority. Any of these people taking any of my previous leadership positions would not have achieved great results like me.
The standards should be, anybody you would not hire in the real world for a leadership position, you should not hire here. I would push for a democratization of moderation power because of how poorly Mike has chosen. If he were more competent in his hiring processes, I would oppose that. MY statement that the creation of a presidential position not having a dual goal of becoming a moderator is accurate. My goal is to usurp power and then democratize it until Mike learns better judgement or gets lucky with one of his moderator decisions.
Yes, my authority to clear the reports board of religious forum users frivolously reporting each other endlessly. Please don't take that away from me.
This is why it is so silly for you to be adamant that the democratization of power is bad and to be so insistent to monopolize it. I assume it is an ego thing. "Only I am responsible enough to sift through reported posts in a competent way".
I think you're just mad that I was put here based on merits, rather than having to lie and scheme my way into it.
Scheming is how you display superior competence in strategizing solutions when in a position decided by voters. A person who can run the most effective campaign is also going to be a superior strategist in creating solutions for a country. The lying part is bullshit. I commonly take a worse strategic position by saying honest things. I can afford to do so because of my superior strategic ability in other areas. When a small handful of people choose for a position you prove merit through your resume. SO it is just 2 different ways to display merit. The people who chose you for that position may have chosen you because of your merit but if so than it was just a lucky guess, they are too incompetent to actually make a wise decision, and even in choosing other people for moderation positions, I know for a fact they did not ask for or receive resumes. They went by gut. I have been successful in every leadership position I have ever been in, whether that is leading a team to victory in survivor or having jobs where I bring my division to the top in their district. Were they really seeking somebody based on merit, you would have lost.
Anybody looking for a successful campaign to the future presidential position should contact me, and I will once again prove my merit by winning. If I have to, I will create my own campaign, but as long as a candidate I approve of an who will listen to me approaches, I will get them the win here
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@MisterChris
Absolutely untrue. If it were the case the only remaining member of the mod team would probably be ragnar, and discussions leaked to me about how the mod team chooses new mods are quite revealing. Their decisions are based on statements like "You know, we could really use a conservative or female mod" and qualifications are not discussed. Mike picked BSH1 on a whim and anyone who has been a part of the community for a while could predict precisely what bsh1 was going to do, and he did not disappoint when he started surrounding himself on weaklings completely dependent on him for their social standing and enforcing policies in a way conducive of bringing "social justice". Had Mike not been stupid about that choice, this site would be 5 times bigger, he doubled down on that retarded decision by picking a mod while not as bad as bsh1 lacks the emotional and social maturity for the position.Mods and administrative positions are chosen based on qualification, not the whims of the masses.
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@drafterman
As stated, if the community wants to "elect" someone "President" they are free to do so. You can set up the election however you wish and assign whatever "duties" to the role you wish.
That was already stated so pointless to bring up and is completely irrelevant to what I said. It is useful though in showing the lengths people in positions of power will go to monopolize their power like literal Nazis, instead of acting as servant leaders.
Currently there is no role for a President within the moderation team.
No shit, nobody asked for there to be one, and again how closely you resemble a nazi is showing. You must think this is the endgame and are fearing some sort of threat to your authority to randomly bring it up. (otherwise this would have went unmentioned). This is sad and pathetic on your parts is a small debating website and now that you feel like you have a bit of authority, you think you hold some sort of real power. It goes to show that you hopefully are never handed any power in real life. You will feel threatened whensomebody thinks power shouldn't be monopolized. You are an evil person and you need to take a close look at your soul and decide whether you want to remain evil or if you want to be a servant leader who works to democratize power
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The full role is written in english. If supa was town there would not be the word weak in spa ish I front of his role
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All I knew he was at L1. I didn't know why and didn't care. My pm with Zaradi and drafter one of them told me he was at L1 and to vote
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@ILikePie5
No. I think I am the only person who knows how to use my role correctly
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Oh I didn't read the last 6 or so pages of that dp and still have not. Was unaware of that
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@Zaradi
Things are going great, but it is jarring to have your worldview disproved. Particularly when you didn't realize it was your world view and can see how the belief effects nearly everything you do and mostly in negative ways
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Also nothing wrong with quick hammers. I would rather get the lynch over with than wait two days while people jump on and off the wagon waffling over their decisions
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@Zaradi
That's not what I'm saying. The act of hammering isn't pro-town or pro-scum, it's just casting a vote. The manner in which you hammer, though, can suggest affiliation. Hence why things like "quickhammering" existing.
The wagon on him was developing for a long time. Can I assume you mean my lack of explanation?
I can tell you I am willing to lynch anyone not on my town list, whether I have evidence they are scum or not.
I'm also just not that into this game and already told pie to leave me off of it, but he put me in the game anyway.
I have recently had some epiphanies about my current mindset and how it relates to previous traumas and would like to take time away from the site.
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Zaradi pro and speed our in my scum pool for the time being. I think it may actually be the exact scum team
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I dont think we should discouraging hammering by making it scummy to hammer a town player. This is precisely why we have such a hard time securing lynches so often.
Lunatic being town is good. I also think supa is most likely town. The scum pool is shrinking. I will never understand lunatics style though. I notice some straw man positions he takes for example and before I thought strawmanning was a scum tell, but now I ignore it with him. Perhaps I should ignore it with everyone since we all commit logical fallacies from time to time.
I want. To scum read water for his random antagonistic ways but I think they are a direct result of me causing him to lose a presidential election on some political simulation we are on.
Disc I think has to be town. Drafter seems like he is giving accurate analysis and usually I feel like I would notice something off about his analysis if he were scum. Then again his tendency to bus too early may be a good explanation for that. The scum pool is tiny for me, so Zaradi for now
VTL ZaRadi
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@David
You hosting the election and helping figure out how it will play out (the election) will help. The role of the presidency will largely depend on the person occupying the position. one person may be a voice for the community while another may seek to be a community organizer. I wouldn't overly focus on the role of said president
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