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@RationalMadman
@Wylted
I think That2 just scum slipped big time.
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@That2User
You forgot that this is role madness, didn't you?
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@RationalMadman
There is a purifier.
Oh. I didn't think of that as a converting role.
Unless there is a pois9ner, which means we are at lylo, what do you think BK purifies?
I don't know.
You forgot as you are scum and it slipped your delicate mind. Now kneel before me and admit what you are.
Even if I was scum, why would I do that?
There is no nice guy anymore. I will be the monster to carry Town to the end.
Let's just hope it's an end where town wins.
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@RationalMadman
If bk hqdnt been modkilled siranonymous' opportunistic lynch on BK day 1 would have resulted in a rushed scenario.Major major slip by him. He also opportunistically preyed on wylted next.
Yes, but that was at the end of a 3 day DP with only a few hours left.
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@RationalMadman
The converting role? Do you mean badger's role, or are you thinking of something different?
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@That2User
Let me tell you a little theory. I don't believe it myself, but I am a towny with limited information. For all I know, it could be true. So here goes:
Whiteflame and Wylted are town. You and two others are mafia. If I vote Whiteflame, your two scum partners can hammer him. In DP3, all you have to do is wait for RM to inevitably vote for me, and the three of you quickhammer me and win. Savvy?
As I said, I don't believe it myself. But I also can't rule it out. I am inherently a cautious player, and I'm not taking that risk. I'm going to play this safe. I vote tomorrow. Now, even voting tomorrow doesn't make that series of events impossible. But it does make it less likely. It slows things down. It gives town time to think. That is rarely a bad thing.
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@That2User
Bandwagon effect is exactly what I am trying to avoid. Bandwagon effect causes town to make stupid, rash decisions. That's how town loses. We do not need the bandwagon effect to get one vote.
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@That2User
mafia can come in and be like noooo don't vote wf let the kill happen convincing ppl this is a bad idea then we get to mylo misvote then we lose
And how will me voting tonight instead of tomorrow make even the slightest lick of difference? We will need one more person regardless.
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@That2User
You'd be surprised how difficult it can be getting the last vote, given how inactive this town is
That won't get any easier just because I vote him tonight instead of tomorrow.
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@That2User
I don't think we'll need much momentum. We need five votes. Wylted, you, and me is three. I'm sure RM can be persuaded to delay his crusade against me to lynch Whiteflame. That's four. I'm sure we can get one more without too much trouble.
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Since it could matter (hopefully not), Pie is in Central Time. That gives us just shy of 17 hours. Fifteen or sixteen would be better.
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@That2User
I'm okay with a Whiteflame lynch. I'll vote in the morning. We don't need to hammer until noon, preferably ten or eleven as a cushion. Let's give everyone as much time to get on and contribute as we can.
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@That2User
Hmm. All valid points. And now that I think about it, stopping the kill would give us another NP, which could gain us more information. I still don't like rushing, but this is hardly a typical situation.
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@That2User
As a more specific question rather than general strategy, why do you want it to not go through? Didn't you vote to lynch Wylted? Why the sudden urge to save him?
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@That2User
I suppose we could try to prevent it by lynching before noon tomorrow. But that does raise the question of whether we want to stop it. Stopping it would give town more control over who to lynch. On the other hand, we don't want to lynch someone before everyone has a chance to log on. We might find ourselves missing out on critical information from investigations. On a broader note, rushed lynches are usually bad ideas. Putting control into town's hands may be worth it, though.
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@badger
So it will go through if the DP lasts beyond noon tomorrow?
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@badger
It didn't go through? Well, I guess we're not at MYLO then.
I wonder whether that was a clever bluff by mafia?
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@PREZ-HILTON
Yeah, if you die, and you flip town, no lynch might be the way to go. I think we might be getting close to catching scum based on POE.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Guys be careful. Badger has a good out if he did say vig me because of my role he can pretend to like he scum read me and a mislynch on top of that means a sum NK and normal size scum team puts us at6 players3 scum, 3 townWe are literally at MYLO
Thanks for pointing that out. DP2 MYLO is no fun.
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@RationalMadman
you don't get time to reason, you only get time to claim.
May I be frank? You don't get to decide that. No amount of threats, shouting, or harassment can force me to claim. Either give me your reasons for wanting my claim or get enough votes to make me. You gain nothing by being unreasonable.
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@RationalMadman
I refuse to believe that mafia has both day-kills and night-killsin a role madness game that's almost ridiculous to not be there.
You could be right, but that would be really scum-sided.
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@RationalMadman
Shouting is not going to convince me. You clearly have a reason(s) for wanting me to claim. What is it?
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Thinking through things.
Supa is almost certainly town.
If RM is scum, he deserves an Oscar, he looks so towny.
If Wylted does in fact die tomorrow, that eliminates him from consideration. It would also virtually town-confirm Badger, as I refuse to believe that mafia has both day-kills and night-kills. If Wylted doesn't die, then badger just told a really obvious and dumb lie and needs to be lynched.
I know I am town.
That leaves Whiteflame, Greyparrot, That2, and Barney as possible scum. Two or three of them are mafia, depending on Wylted's flip. Whiteflame looks like a very reasonable lynch right now.
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@PREZ-HILTON
If I understood him correctly, his proof is "Wait 18 hours."
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@RationalMadman
How will my claiming help town?
As for me potentially being mafia, I would have gotten a fake claim ready when Wylted was pushing for my lynch in DP1.
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@RationalMadman
I'll claim if I get to 3 votes, unless you have a compelling reason you want me to claim.
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@RationalMadman
we need EVERYONE to FULL claim this day phase 100%
I don't think this is a good idea. Mass claims tend to help mafia more than town.
On the other hand, the governor and the gunslinger (or whatever badger's role is called) have claimed and the sheriff is dead, and those are probably town's most powerful roles, so it might not hurt town as much as it normally would.
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@badger
My role is High Noon and will be confirmed tomorrow at noon (Pie's time I presume) when Wylted dies.
A Western-themed day vig? Yikes.
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@Skipper_Sr
I'd pay to see that.
I wish for free shipping for everything I order.
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@RationalMadman
Granted. You get a billion dollars in pennies. They cover the streets of your city, and you are arrested for creating a traffic hazard.
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The commercials seemed worse than usual this year. Or maybe it's just that my memories of previous bad commercials have faded.
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@Skipper_Sr
Your wish is fulfilled, but through tar and Turkey feathering.
I wish for Tom Brady to stay retired, for his own sake.
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What does everyone think? Will Pie get the votes counted before the Super Bowl is over or not?
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@PREZ-HILTON
Someone should run DARTvivor again. That was tons of fun.
And thanks for getting me to the end in that game and teaching me how to play it. Really appreciated it.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Does leading tribes in Survivor count?
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@PREZ-HILTON
So if nothing else, you provided strong evidence that Supa is town.
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@Barney
The false alarm counter claim marks Supa as safely in my town pile. I doubt he'd be composed enough to try that as a gambit.
Excellent catch. That is a very town Supa thing to do, and very unlike him as scum.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Please suck less next game
Sorry, it's a permanent condition.
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@That2User
I think 6/6, but I haven't counted to make sure because I'm lazy and that's Pie's job and it's better for Pie to work 'cause he's one o' them lazy youths that needs to larn about responsibility!
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@That2User
Not sure, but I think that was a hammer.nope, I unvoted, badger didn't unvote
I don't think that matters, but we'll see what Pie says.
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@ILikePie5
Oh ok, Senator. VTL Wytled.
Not sure, but I think that was a hammer.
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@badger
Completely down to lynch RM.VTL RM
Eh? I thought you townread RM.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Yes it does. For one it is hilarious.
I'll give you that. Not as funny as claiming mafia, twice, and getting away with it both times, but still pretty good.
I claim gladiator like every other game I play
I don't remember that, but maybe it's been too long since I've played a game with you.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Trying to get a lynch on someone else makes perfect sense. Claiming a gladiator role, only to disclaim it immediately, does not.
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@PREZ-HILTON
I'd be okay with a BK lynch, but I'd rather lynch you, and I think there should be enough votes.
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