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@PREZ-HILTON
Why did you say that RM claimed governor?
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@Vader
@PREZ-HILTON
No, we do not have a CC. RM claimed Senator, not governor.
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@PREZ-HILTON
If you are correct about GP's role, I don't see how it's useful to confirm that one player isn't TP at the expense of losing a town player.
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@ILikePie5
@That2User
Sure. VTL Wylted
I doubt he's a cultist, but I have no objections to lynching him.
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@Barney
I hope not. I doubt it's likely. But then again, is it more likely than a Hitler role that protects Democrats? I don't know.
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@That2User
I really, really hope reverse cultist isn't a thing.
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@That2User
It implies that there are roles that leave lingering effects, which isn't very common, at least as far as I've seen. The only one I can think of at the moment is the Poisoner, although I know there are others.
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I am the 2x Purifier. Each Night, I may select a player. That player will have any lingering effects removed from them.
If Best.Korea is town, this role has some weird implications for what other roles could be out there.
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@Barney
Oh, sorry. I confused him with Austin. You're correct.
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@ILikePie5
@That2User
Ok. VTL BestKorea
That gets us to 4.
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@Barney
Why do you have GP listed as Evers, the governor of Wisconsin?
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@That2User
Would you be willing to vote BK? I'm trying to count heads to see what lynch actually has enough support.
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@Vader
@AustinL0926
Get over here and vote. We only have a few hours left.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Who all would support BK's lynch? If I switch my vote to him, he's only at three.
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@Best.Korea
You also need to consider what lunches have a chance of succeeding. I think there's more support for a Wylted lynch than a Whiteflame lynch.
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@badger
I think there might be enough votes for Wylted.
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@Best.Korea
Vote Wylted. I think there are enough votes for it.
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@badger
Also I would generally scumread whiteflame's trying to psych RM out of his FOS, calling him his patterns, that sort of thing. That's generally a scumtell actually. Town is usually way more combative about being FOS'ed. It's a mafia ego that denies being read. But here I'm inclined to believe that RM is just that obnoxious.
That's a decent point.
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@PREZ-HILTON
If you are town than I want you to know there is great benefit in lynching null reads as it narrows your scum pool
I entirely agree. I'm waiting for the next few votes to come in to decide whether to stay on you or switch to BK.
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@PREZ-HILTON
I don't think your lynch is dead yet. If it looks like it isn't going anywhere in a few hours, I'll switch to Best.Korea. At this point, I agree with your comment about being willing to lynch anyone other than myself and RM. Maybe there's a couple others I wouldn't want to lynch either, but no one currently proposed, other than myself, is one of them.
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@That2User
Ok. Didn't read that way to me, but what do I know.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Maybe so, but, as I think you would agree, you are very unpredictable in this game. My read on you is weak. It's just that I don't have any scumreads on anyone else.
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@Best.Korea
That isn't a defense of Whiteflame. It's a comment on your logic. The fact that you misread that as a defense of Whiteflame is exactly the type of thing I was talking about.
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@That2User
SAnon didn't vote wf, you wanna back this up?I will vote with you if you do
I don't object to you scumreading me, but why are you sheeping RM?
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@ILikePie5
More new pages, not much new information. BK continues to misread and have bad logic. Is it noob town? Mafia manufacturing logic? Self-admitted troll being self-admitted troll? I'm kind of tempted to vote for him, but I doubt it would go anywhere, and I honestly don't know how to read him.
At this point it looks like the lynch will be Whiteflame or Wylted. Between the two of them, I would rather lynch Wylted. His bizarre claim could be a case of "So insane it must be true", or it could be a case of "Wylted trying an insane gambit to avoid being lynched."
If it becomes a choice between no lynch and lynching Whiteflame, I would pick lynching Whiteflame. I don't think we're there yet. I don't want to lynch a nullread if I can lynch a scumread.
VTL Wylted
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@ILikePie5
@PREZ-HILTON
I can almost see Pie doing that. Fine. Unvote. I need to think.
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That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in a game of mafia. A role called Hitler. That arbitrarily protects people with particular characters. And Pie actually put this in a game? It's so insane that it almost has to be true, yet the person making the claim is the only person insane enough to lie about it!
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@PREZ-HILTON
That's the most bizarre role I've ever seen.
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@PREZ-HILTON
So mafia targets some barely actives making it easier for us to narrow down scum. The alternative is that we go to LYLO and the game is a coin toss
Seems like a false choice.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Yes, but at the same time, it gives the mafia a better idea of who to target.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Why do you want the inactives to claim? They certainly need to be more active, but how does claiming on DP1 help? It's not like they're going to disappear on DP2.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Weird logic often happens with scum because of the fact they have to manufacture their logic while we can just pour things out in a stream of consciousness.
Yes, you're right. It's also common with new players who aren't used to the game's logic is. BK is a new player, so I've been putting it down as that so far. It certainly could be more than that, though.
I forgave him for the weird statistics because I have seen it before with noobs, but he appears to be buddying up with RM, which is a scum tactic and making me reconsider my read on RM since scum would not buddy up to scum.
The buddying thing is weird. What's weirder is that RM seems to be going along with it.
I've been nullreading BK so far, but of all my nullreads, he is the one that I would be most okay with lynching.
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@RationalMadman
I first scumread him back on page 11.
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@RationalMadman
Wait did you say you were scumreading wylted before?
Yes, several times. I'll go find them in a minute.
Are you voting him because he wiuld vote you? That is scummy.
No.
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@Vader
@PREZ-HILTON
I don't know if we need claims, but we certainly need activity.
Supa, who would you be willing to lynch, and why?
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@PREZ-HILTON
Sorry but it is smart for town players to try to read roles.
Yes, it can be smart to try to read them, but not so smart to openly discuss them. RM having some kind of confirmable role doesn't really help mafia. RM having a role related to voting lets mafia know not to target them because his role isn't that threatening to them.
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@PREZ-HILTON
BK's logic has been weird this whole game. I don't know what to make of it.
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I think I'm going to go with Wylted, since he's the only person I scumread right now.
VTL Wylted
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@RationalMadman
The reaction from Wylted is so stupid I actually townread it, I don't think he'd try to lead onto me as scum there, that's just so stupid.
I don't know. His general strategy seems to be an unending stream of randomness.
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I'm not sold on the Whiteflame lynch. I'm nullreading him right now. It wouldn't be the end of the world if that happened, though.
On the other hand, the only scumread I have right now is Wylted, and it's only a slight scumread. I don't like how he was trying to guess RM's role, which is not a towny thing to do. Wylted can be a loose cannon, so that isn't definitive.
Lynching an inactive player almost feels like a cop-out, although I have done that in the past.
This rambling probably isn't particularly useful. I'm essentially just thinking out loud about who to lynch.
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So RM is role-confirmed now. That doesn't confirm him as town, but I think he is likely to be town (not just for that). Aside from that, the main thing that happened during the night was WyIted protesting that he is town confirmed, which is rubbish.
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@RationalMadman
The site is going offline for hours at any given time so I am not sure it is feasible.
I forgot about that. That could put us in a bit of a time crunch. I pinged active players hoping we could do it quickly.
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@RationalMadman
Austin's out should be alarming WF.
You keep saying that. When has he actually been alarmed by that kind of thing before? I looked through his games for the past year and didn't see anything like that.
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@RationalMadman
@Barney
@whiteflame
@That2User
@PREZ-HILTON
Let's get RM to 6 votes to test his role.
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