Total posts: 4,140
Posted in:
If anyone wants to run for president and would like some free advertising, send me a PM and I'll put an ad for you in the Bard.
Created:
Posted in:
If nothing else, presidential elections will promote activity.
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Speedrace
Drafterman thinks Pie got lynched already. Could you verify that?
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@drafterman
I don't envy you counting the votes. However, Speed will have to independently verify that, so I don't envy him either.
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Greyparrot
I would love to know how you reached those conclusions.
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@drafterman
True enough. Go right ahead.
Created:
Posted in:
Now that I've said that, I'll probably be NKed after the lovers.
Created:
Posted in:
Now that there's 5 votes on me, I should probably claim. Y'all are wasting your votes. I'm Black Widow. As a spy, she continually gets into difficult situations, but always escapes. Therefore, I am lynchproof.
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Bullish
In that case, I have a lot of mislynches to look forward to, because my town behavior looks scummy.
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Bullish
That took 15 seconds to do. You could have done that yourself.
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Bullish
UVC
SirAnon - 4/7 - Singularity, Pie, drafterman, Bullish
ILikePie5 - 4/7 - warren42, oromagi, SupaDudz, Ragnar
Bullish - 3/7 - GreyParrot, SirAnonymous, Discipulus_Didicit
WaterPhoenix - 1/7 WaterPhoenix
warren42 - 1/7 - Lunatic
Done.
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Bullish
I'd be curious to hear your explanation of why I didn't.
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@drafterman
I'm not mafia, although I don't blame you for thinking that. The evidence points to Pie, Bullish, and I being likely suspects.
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@drafterman
Who do you think is bussing who? Pie bussing me?
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@drafterman
Since when did you start doing altar calls?Make your decision for Christ.
Created:
Posted in:
I hope we're not headed for a vtnl spawned by indecision.
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Bullish
I'm not just scum, I'm SCUM. I must be special. :)SirAnonymous - SCUM
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@drafterman
That would honestly be the sort of fitting, ironic ending that this drama-laden, drawn-out, 1060-post behemoth of a DP deserves.Imagine water voting Bullish and this lynch being decided by a 3rd party who can't win.
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Lunatic
@warren42
Sorry, warren, I meant to tag Lunatic, not you.
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@warren42
@WaterPhoenix
Get your votes on a lynch wagon that actually has a chance, please.
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Bullish
There was no reason. He was making assumptions about thematic split while pretending to not make assumptions about thematic split.
I never made assumptions. Of all the possible cases against me, why are you insistently arguing the worst one available?
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@drafterman
I've had you in my scum pile by PoE because of the Grey wagon for almost the entire DP.
As you probably should. Honestly, DD town reading me the whole game up until the last few pages makes me suspect him. There really isn't any good reason to town read me.
Why not?
1. Speed didn't have a thematic split in his last game, so it was possible that there wasn't one this time as well.
2. The theme is a movie titled Civil War and focuses on the fight between the two main protagonists in the MCU. If there had been a thematic split, Iron Man vs Cap would have been just as likely as protagonists vs antagonists.
Created:
Posted in:
This case against me is ridiculous. In all honesty, there is a case to be made against me because I was on Grey's wagon. However, the case drafter and Bullish are making is largely based on the fact that I didn't rush to conclusions about the theme, which is ridiculous on its face.
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@drafterman
That is blatantly false. Reread what I wrote in my theme argument with Bullish. I never assumed that there was no thematic split. In fact, my argument was the exact opposite. I was arguing that we shouldn't make assumptions about the thematic split, which is why Bullish's case that Grey's claim was scummy made no sense.Rather the opposite, he used his assumption of no thematic split to try and question the pressure on Grey, rather than using Grey's claim to question the assumption of a thematic split.
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Greyparrot
How are Ragnar and Bullish confirmed scum? My votes already on Bullish, and Ragnar is possible, but how are they confirmed?
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Vader
If DD is scum, it would be better to know why you think that before you're silenced.
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Bullish
Again, given that the mafia would be just as pleased as town that the TP got exposed, why would you expect a mafia's reaction to that event to be unnatural?
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Bullish
<br>That's the point. I don't know how to behave naturally or unnaturally. If I did then the words natural and unnatural would no longer describe my behaviour. You can't "know" how to be natural or unnatural on command unless you're a sociopath.
Are you seriously FOSing me because I used the word know?
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Bullish
Of the "several different possibilities" you came up with a grand total of TWO, both of which would mark Grey as scum!
That may have something to do with the fact that I haven't seen the movie. Also, there were 3. You're forgetting the possibility of no theme. The theory that it was Cap vs Iton Man wouldn't make GP scum. Finally, the very existence of these possibilities debunked your absurd claim that GP was scum based solely on the fact that you took a guess at the theme.
But, the point here is you can't be ambivalent no matter how "good" you reason is, because the better reason from my perspective is that you're ambivalent because you're scum.
This doesn't follow. I don't trust my reads because I know as an objective fact that they're usually wrong. To one degree or another, I have shown this same indecision in nearly every game I've played. I'm bad at this game, and I know it.
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Discipulus_Didicit
Weren't people complaining earlier in the DP about how GP and others had pretty weak justifications? Speaking for myself my justification is a bit of a stretch too, pretty sure speed designed the game by making a bunch of roles then trying to find characters to match the roles rather than the other way around (which is the correct way to do it really).
Good point.
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Bullish
And then there's this post" https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/3593/post_links/153500 it just reeks fake. That's the gut read. If sir made no other posts except that one, I'd be gut reading him scum.
Two things:
1. As I said the first time you questioned me about that post, the reason it was unnatural was because it was unnatural. I don't know how to communicate laughter over text in a natural way.
2. Given that the mafia would be just as pleased as town that the TP got exposed, why would you expect a mafia's reaction to that event to be unnatural?
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Bullish
OMGUS is voting against someone for the sole reason that they voted for you. I did not vote in post 266. I asked you a question. When I did VTL you, I explained my reasons, and they have nothing to do with your FOS on me.He also exhibits the CLASSIC SCUM TELL of OMGUS (against me in #266)
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Bullish
SA says sheeping bad, but says nothing about the sheeping here because it's on his buddy DD: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/3593/post_links/153545
That's Lunatic's post, not mine.
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Bullish
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/3593/post_links/153093 being for and against a Grey lynch at the same time
See above. If I'm ambivalent, I have good reason for it.
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Bullish
My second point is the thing I've been talking about this whole game. His defense of grey in #63 "No, antagonist doesn't have to be scum" does not make sense, unless he has inside info (info later confirmed by Speed). By all reason, one should come to the conclusion that Zemo is scum. Sir indirectly admits this in #53 and then #260; by his own admission, good vs bad was an "obvious" thematic split, and cap vs iron man was a "highly likely" thematic split; both splits results in Zemo being scum. Sir should at this point at the very least NOT defend Grey based on thematic split, yet continues to do so. Note that his reasoning is explicitly because he didn't believe Zemo was necessarily scummy. I reiterate that thematically, there was no reason to believe Grey's char claim was anything but extremely scummy.There are 2 options why Sir would have inside info:1. Sir is town and as a bad guy role, like the heil hydra guy or Ross.2. Sir is mafia and is a hero char, and his scum mates chars imply there is no thematic split.I don't believe it's 1, or he would have said something about it by now. So it is likely 2. Ask yourself. If there is a thematic split to the game, and your character is one of the hero characters, do you honestly think it's reasonable for Zemo to be on your side?
I've debunked this so many times. This is so ridiculous. There were several different possibilities that were obvious and fairly likely.
Third point, Sir double talks, a meta he displayed in Office, but not Survivor. Double talking is saying something along the lines of "I scum read player X but I'm probably wrong."
That may have something to do with the fact that I am usually wrong. Here's an interesting statistic for you: I have a 0% success rate at scum hunting. I have only lynched scum twice. One time, the mafia conceded. The other time, the mafia failed to vote, leaving me no choice but to lynch them. I have never caught scum of my own volition. Long story short, you shouldn't be surprised that I expect to be wrong.
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@ILikePie5
Whatever you say, virt.Youre better than this speed
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Vader
I'm aware of that. I need to reread his past games, but I'm not doing that tonight.
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Discipulus_Didicit
What are your thoughts?
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@ILikePie5
A regular cop wouldn't CC a role cop.If there was another cop of any kind I would’ve been CCed by now lol.
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@ILikePie5
How do you know this? Also, being military is a really, really weak justification for being a role cop.Besides I’m the only town investigative role.
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@ILikePie5
That justification doesn't justify your role.
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@oromagi
YOUR QUOTE: "Singularity/SirAnonymous/BrotherDThomas: (looking up from her laptop) I told him mods know who I."
Oromagi,
I...don't want to be banned for impersonating, so I'll stop right here.
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Singularity
I think we have enough people to lynch either Pie or Bullish. It's just that half of us prefer one lynch and the other half prefer the other.
Created: