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@Discipulus_Didicit
I am aware that is isn't official, but it still doesn't make sense. Logical fallacies are rarely deliberate, with obvious exceptions such as humor.
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I think the whole idea of trying to restrict the use of logical fallacies is ridiculous. Yes, you shouldn't use them, but many, if not most, logical fallacies are used unintentionally.
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I'll get my reads up later tonight. I'll try to have some detailed analysis as well. Hopefully typing everything out will help me reach some conclusions.
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@LordLuke
Wednesday, 01/16/2020,
I think you mean 1/23/2020.
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@ethang5
It is on Discord. I don't get why Supa would ban you just for being on Discord. I don't think he could based on the rules.
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@ethang5
I agree. I'm not a Bernie Bro.
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@ethang5
No problem. It isn't a hard game to learn.
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@ethang5
You have offended the Bernie Bro!
Seriously, you probably did.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
That's weird. I guess the mods are having fun.
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@Singularity
You really want everyone to know. At least half of them aren't active.
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@ethang5
@Greyparrot
@TheDredPriateRoberts
@Barney
@Dr.Franklin
Interested?
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@Stephen
@Mopac
@Bullish
@HistoryBuff
@irontoaster
Interested?
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@WaterPhoenix
Oh. My mind didn't connect that you were the one I'd just suggested investigating. I feel dumb now.
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@WaterPhoenix
But why would a mason say, "Yeah, sure then" to a post about investigative roles?
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@TheRealNihilist
That's really specific. Where did the mods say that?
Of course, it doesn't really matter, because watching that clip is funny regardless.
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@WaterPhoenix
Yeah, sure then.
Which of my posts are you responding to?
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I have one recommendation. If you have an investigative role (and I don't want to know that you have one) it could be very useful if you use it on Grey or Water next NP. If possible, we need to find out if they're scum or not.
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@Zaradi
That post is just Greyparrot being Greyparrot.
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@Singularity
Can you explain your reasoning for voting for Ragnar?
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@Vader
Not join for lack of an account is a plausible scenario. Being too lazy to join isn't.
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@Barney
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@Vader
I'm going to have to agree with drafter here. That's outside the game influence, not to mention that it's highly implausible that she wouldn't join the scum chat until now.
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@Vader
I know. I've been trying to tell you that I never said that you can control who targets you.I can't control who targets me, it's an indirect/passive BP. I just don't die in the night by NK whoever attacks me
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@Singularity
Last night. I was just about to ping you.
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@Vader
You said I waived an NK, but I didn't claim the role til DP2
No. I said that if you're scum, you probably waived the NK so you could claim bulletproof and look towny. However, that is a hypothetical scenario based on the theory that you're scum and does not imply that, if you are the town BP, you can control who targeted you.
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@Speedrace
It would be possible for there to be another protective role, so it wouldn't necessarily have to be a waive. However, that's purely speculative.Didn't even realize it would require him to waive it. Yeah that's a big point in his direction
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@Vader
A bulletproof is indirect. I had no control who targeted me
What? I don't recall saying or implying that you did.
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@Speedrace
but you can't have an FOS on him lol
I wouldn't say we can't FOS him, but he isn't a likely suspect. In order for him to be scum, he would have to do something that is very out of character for him.
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@Zaradi
Also you just explained how it's not so I'm not sure why that's a point in his favor
Yes, but no. It is definitely possible. However, it doesn't work well psychologically. I've played with Supa as mafia. I've read every game on this site. He's done some gambits, but he's never done anything like this, and he's never waived an NK (if he has, it wasn't recently). In fact, the only people on this site who waived an NK that I can remember are Lunatic and Pie. I'm probably forgetting a few times, but it's really rare.
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@Zaradi
Here's a good reason. So far, he's the only claimed role that could stop an NK. This could be a deliberate NK waive and fake claim to look towny. However, it is a point in his favor.
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I'll have more time tomorrow to go through the DPs and really analyze things. I'm just shooting from the hip right now.
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@Zaradi
Either that or he's just that dumb and I'm not a fan of that theory (though with how cocky he's acting maybe I should give it more credit)
He isn't dumb intellectually, but he has repeatedly proven to be prone to mistakes and bad logic in mafia. However, it seems slightly worse than normal, but not enough for me to FOS him yet. That being said, I'm not town reading him.
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@Vader
Why would it do that?If Grey turns town then that town confirms me
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@Greyparrot
You're one to talk.Like I predicted last day phase, the scumhunting by town was abysmal DP1 and it carries on to DP2.Can't wait for the endgame.
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@WaterPhoenix
I'd wondered about that. Mason seemed like a good fit for sui.I'm sui.
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@WaterPhoenix
I was really hoping that wasn't the case. Now you're back on the table as a suspect.I'm 1x shot that's why I was so sad that grey leaked that I was mason.
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@Barney
Granted Grey feels incredibly scummy for claiming to be mason, intentionally outing Water, and believing we should lynch anyone who suggests using masons for town's advantage.
One thing is certain: regardless of his affiliation, Grey is playing poorly.
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@Zaradi
If we lynch GP, then the mafia could kill Water and we would have killed off a powerful asset for town. If they're lying, we'll know next round if they don't have a new recruit.Short of any other late results coming out, we lynch GP today as a utility lynch. Lynching GP tells us one of two things: either a) wp is the mason and can keep recruiting town and we win, or b) gp flips scum and we insta lynch wp the next day.Thoughts?
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@Barney
@Vader
As badly as GP has played, I don't think it's really possible for him to be lying. GP and WP are claiming that Water can recruit. Since this will be easily verifiable next round, they would have to be out of their minds to make this claim as mafia.
Of course, I suppose it is possible that they planned to make this fake claim and GP bungled it by saying that Water had recruited him. However, if that's the case, we'll know next round when they don't have a new recruit.
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@Vaarka
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
What does God do for fun?
Send snowstorms toward Al Gore and create creatures like the platypus, I suppose.
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@Mopac
@disgusted
For once, I agree with disgusted. This is Monty Python level of bad logic and puns. This is even beneath my dreadful sense of humor.Just how pathetic can you get?
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@TheRealNihilist
Yes. According to the CDC, there are 500,000-3,000,000 defensive gun uses per year.the evidence shows that guns save more lives than they kill due to their widespread use in self-defense.Do you have a source?
(The link leads to the relevant chapter of the study)
the evidence suggests that gun control and gun bans don't save lives.Do you have a source?
Yes. Here is a source describing how homicide rates went up in the UK after their 1997 gun ban until they began increasing the number of police officers.
Here is another source that found that a gun control policy failed to reduce homicide rates. It isn't very useful because it only discusses one policy, but I find it funny that HuffPo would even publish this.
Instead, they just lead to a decrease in gun deaths accompanied by an increase in deaths from other weapons such as knives. This is why London, after banning guns failed to reduce crime, started instituting knife control.Do you have a source that compares the UK and US?
No, but I can tell you without looking that the US murder rate is higher. However, I can also tell you that it's almost impossible to draw useful conclusions by comparing countries like that because they have radically different histories, cultures, past crime rates, laws, etc. That's why I provided the source comparing pre-ban UK to post-ban UK. It's more useful to compare countries to themselves because it eliminates all the previously mentioned variables.
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