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@Christen
He's a liaison on discord, so he's a staff member, but not a moderator on DART itself.
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I would like to point out that free speech does not apply to internet forums. You have the right to say, write, and think whatever you want, but a privately owned website has the right not to publish it. You (I'm speaking in general, not to a specific person) can say what you like about how it should be moderated, but the simple fact is that they have the right to moderate it any way they please.
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@ethang5
Extraordinary claims need extraordernary evidence.
This one does have some valid uses. For instance, I would require a far higher bar of proof for the existence of the Illuminati than I would for the existence of a gun that can shoot 30 times every half second.
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@blamonkey
It's really amazing how many people mistake satire sites for real news.
On the other hand, maybe that's because our real news is getting increasingly indistinguishable from satire.
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@blamonkey
we should ban gay marriage because gays are inherently sub-human
I don't even support gay marriage, but that statement is revolting. No one is sub-human. It's absolutely stunning that was used in a competitive debate.
Someone cited the Onion as a source when they were debating if they should heavily penalize texting and driving.
Did he use a story from the Onion unwittingly, or did he outright say that was his source?
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The title is self-explanatory.
1. God doesn't exist because the movies and music meant to honor Him are so bad.
From YouTube personality The Atheist Voice. Firstly: this has nothing to do with God's existence. Secondly: Johann Sebastian Bach.
2. Text is the worst form of communication.
From DDO user backwardseden. He communicated this using text.
3. God exists because there is no evidence that He doesn't.
From any online theist who doesn't quite understand how the burden of proof works.
Please do not make troll posts such as "Any argument used by YECs and flat earthers - but I repeat myself." Use specific arguments.
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Even in the thousand-year-long week I was on DDO, I couldn't avoid backwardseden. Inevitably, he copy-pasted a slew of nonsensical insults and mind-blowingly stupid arguments at me for being a Christian. When I made a debate about the college football playoff (which no one accepted, so it was auto-deleted), I discovered that he actually agreed with me - a fact that I was quickly ashamed of when he started blasting someone who disagreed, then chewing out me when I told him to calm down.
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@warren42
Your count looks correct.
By the way, is anyone in this town a pilot? I just discovered that I need to make an emergency business trip to Botswana, so I'll see you all later.
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I should probably let you know that I won't have much time for posting tomorrow, so if you do decide to lynch me, don't do it for inactivity or lurking.
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@oromagi
3. drafterman (fem.)2. iLikePie510. WaterPhoenix
Out of curiosity, why did you put them as your best scum reads next to me?
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@oromagi
Everyone seems to be after you for your vote counts. Thus, I will give you a simple tip to help you keep track: get a wagon on you that comes within 1 vote of stringing you up. There's nothing quite like it as motivation to track votes.
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@oromagi
TOWN6. Oromagi4. PressF Dwight Shrute COP8. Greyparrot Jim Halpert VANILLA12. A-R-O-S-E Ryan Howard11. Airmax1227 Toby Flenderson7. Lunatic9. Speedrace CC PressF?5. Supa13. Wylted not claiming VIGILANTE3. drafterman (fem.)2. iLikePie510. WaterPhoenix1. SirAnonymous A.J. VANILLASCUMCOUNT(probably inaccurate)SirAnon: 4/7 (water, drafter, wylted,pieliker)Supa: 1/7 (grey)A-R-O-S-E 4/7 (Lunatic, supa, speed, PressF)
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@oromagi
A-R-O-S-E 3/7 (Lunatic, supa, speed)
PressF also vtl'ed Arose.
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@oromagi
What do you mean by "nope"? The very first word in the post you linked to is unvote.
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@oromagi
I'm beginning to see visions of a wild mafia game with one consistent theme: an endless, monotonous, silent scream..."u forgot to unvote."
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@Wylted
That should count as an SA lynch. Let's see what the mods ruling is
I never got up to 7 votes. I had 6 votes at one point, but I never hit 7.
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@Lunatic
So you have no intention of voting to lynch anyone but also simultaneously complain the game isn't going anywhere... Hmm... It's almost as if by playing and voting you could fix that that problem...
Participation advances the game? What a radical idea!
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@Lunatic
Despite me being the only one steering away from his lynch, he didn't exactly bandwagon my AROSE lynch, and still kind of suspects me.
It isn't that I suspect you, but that I now know not to rule you out like I did in the last game.
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@A-R-O-S-E
Of course, I'm inactive. I have 27 pages of nothingness to go off of. It's DP1 and all I feel that will be gotten out of a DP this long is a few wild goose chases. I won't and refuse to participate a lot this DP, but will be more active tomorrow as there will be actual things to make stuff out of.
You "refuse" to participate?
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@ILikePie5
Alright, on the record you are unwilling to say.
More like that he hasn't thought about it, since saying "I'll figure it out" implies that he hasn't thought it out yet.
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Post 412. No idea why I said 970-something. It's getting late.
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@PressF4Respect
I’ll do better, I’ll give my readsScumSupa - he’s being hypocritical in his analysis and straight up lying while advocating for LaLLean ScumSpeedrace - I don’t like his push for Press to revea what he really is since the push is inherently pro-scum since they want to know whether it’s a gambit of some sorts or an actual roleSirAnonymous - this is more of a concurrence reading since I don’t know much about the show. Behaviorally, I can see him research fake claims as well along with the justification.Airmax1227 - inactivity and random character claim. Don’t really like the latter since it was unnecessary (weakest scum read however do to soft claim)Nulldrafterman - He’s been contributing but I still have to to analyze behavior on an individual basis. Rating bound to change in futureOromagi - not much too go on. His scumplay involves lurking so down the stretch if this continues I’d be concerned.Greyparrot - he’s being himself. Hard to do objective analysis cause his play is random.WaterPhoenix - inactive for the most part. Don’t like his willingness to lynch someone who he thinks is town tho. Rating may change with more infoWylted - inactive ; ploy could be an attempt to get a real vig if he exists to reveal themselves.Lean TownPressF - no reason for him to commit to a gambit without reasonLunatic - very active and thoughtfulness shown through reads and analysis
ILikePie5's scumreads, from post 970-something.
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@ILikePie5
How do y’all feel about Supa?
He seems simultaneously very active but also lazy. He does seem kind of scummy, but at the same time he seems less scummy than he usually does. However, as with Lunatic, I don't trust my reads on Supa. In the quickfire, Lunatic seemed pro-town but turned out to be mafia, whereas Supa seemed very scummy and turned out to be town.
Overall, I'm not good at reading people, especially those two.
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@Lunatic
He even said in the sign ups he planned on a gambit. That was before roles were handed out.
If he stayed true to his word, would that mean his character claim is a gambit? On the other hand, he could just be too lazy to post much or gambit.
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@Lunatic
I am wondering his motivations for being okay with an an SA lynch that he admits was just due to other things going on around the site, but can't seem to explain his reasons for not wanting to lynch a scummier AROSE.
That's probably because I'm a way easier target since there are already several votes for me, but just one for arose.
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My read on Arose is that he doesn't seem scummy, and he is not usually very active, at least from what I've seen. However, this level of inactivity seems unusual.
Wylted seems scummy, but I think that is his default. I can't give a good read on him. However, he seems very indecisive about who to vote for, but also very certain about who is scum.
Supa seems indecisive as well. As I said in my longer list of reads, his playing style seems to have become less scummy than usual, so I can't get a good read until I'm familiar with this new style. I don't know if that makes much sense, but he gives off a little less of a scummy vibe.
Oromagi does seem to be defensive when pressed, although I'm not sure what that means. His overall play has been very assertive, both when pressuring and when under pressure.
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@Lunatic
I was sarcastically saying that your comment seemed to imply that you suspect those three.
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@drafterman
I think if Sir was town he would have been lynched a lot faster.
Why is that?
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I know policy DP1 lynch culture is another stereotype that has accrued. It, like the LAL policy, I think got a bit warped. Lynching is preferred to no lynching, sure, but I would argue no lynching is preferred to mis-lynching. And let's face it, the case on SirAnonymous is pretty darn weak. I think the biggest argument is that his claim seems "kinda weak". I thought so too at first but as I've thought about it, I don't really see mafia letting him use a claim like that. They also would have advised him to wait until claiming and not caving in to 1 vote. Unless the other mafia was equally as nooby, but considering some of the noobier players are gunning for the lynch, I just don't think SA is mafia.I don't have an alternative for you however. I have some scummy gut feelings but I don't have evidence to support them.As far as getting info, I don't really see how lynching SA is going to give us much of that. We will learn what? That the mod included a character in that only appeared in a few episodes? How does that information help us? We will get information from a flip from the mafia night kill. This lynch feels lazy and I'd rather VTNL than lynch SA if we are feeling pressured to end the DP
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Here are my reads.
Lean Town
PressF: While I'm convinced he's lying or gambling, his claim is so audacious he almost can't be mafia.
Null
Supa: He seems less scummy than usual, which indicates a slight change in playing style. As such, I can't get a good read on him.
Lunatic: He seems incredibly pro-town, a characteristic that got him a win as mafia in the quickfire.
Drafter: I'm getting very mixed reads from drafter. Sometimes he seems town, but sometimes he seems mafia. Since he's one of the biggest advocates for lynching me, I don't think I can objectively evaluate him.
Arose: He seems town and his character claim hasn't been challenged (I don't know much about the office, so I don't know how valid it is). However, he is also fairly quiet. Too quiet, in my opinion.
Oromagi: He is very active, but he hasn't said anything that gave me any indications of his alignment.
ILikePie5: Seems town, but only had one burst of activity. Otherwise, he has been largely silent.
WaterPhoenix, Airmax: Almost inactive.
Lean Scum
Wylted: He seems scummy and illogical. However, that also seems to be normal for him. As someone said near the beginning (I think oromagi), "Wylted is scum until proven otherwise."
Speedrace: He seems illogical and inconsistent. However, he doesn't feel very scummy. Hard to say.
GreyParrot: His accusation against Supa is almost totally logic-free, but his overall play seems town. He's either a towny playing quite illogically or a mafia who is excellent at playing town but terrible at leading a mislynch.
Scum
That one guy on the block who went "all out" with Halloween decorations that loudly proclaim "I have no taste" : I don't think I need to explain this. It's pretty self-evident.
warren42: Need I say more?
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@Lunatic
Tbh I dont have the most confidence that you are scum. Buuttt I can't really argue against the reasons your getting pressured for either. I wont hammer because I dont particularly feel like we have enough against you to justify it and there's still plenty of time in the day phase.
Glad to hear it, but I doubt it will matter. Unless someone else messes up at least as badly as I did, the only good alternative to lynching me would be a no lynch, and I highly doubt that will happen. Well, at least now I know better than to claim vanilla with so little pressure.
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@WaterPhoenix
Nothin' much, now just put your neck through this rope and we'll give you free candy lol
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@WaterPhoenix
Don't mind us just an engaging and supportive community that welcomes newcomers.
Thanks so much for the support! There's nothing that says "Welcome to our site!" like giving me a free noose. I really appreciate it?
By the way, what are y'all doing with those gallows?
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@drafterman
Let me put it another way, it's not behavior I've seen from other noobs before, ergo I wouldn't expect it from a noob presently.
It makes sense when you put it that way. However, I think you saw in the Lucid Dreamers mafia that I am not like other noobs.
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@drafterman
I read the last few mafia games so I could have an idea of how it's played, so I did know the circumstances. Any idiot knows what I pointed out about quarterbacks on teams. Why wouldn't I have such a shallow level of insight?
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@Lunatic
Drafters sarcasm and non direct insults are amazing lol.
His lack of logic on my "experienced insight" is even moreso.
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@drafterman
And if I remember correctly, there were 2-3 others who jumped into that conversation. Why single out me?
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@drafterman
Because you can be active in the game in general without jumping into a specific conversation between two users.
That's true, but why would you link to such a post as an example of "experienced insight," and why would that post be suspicious?
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@drafterman
You said
I just don't see a noob getting involve in the discussion at all.
Firstly, this implies that you didn't see me getting involved in the discussion at all. Secondly, it was in reference to my response to a link to a post that you provided as an example of experienced insight even though that post wasn't even about this game. Now you're saying
I didn't comment on the level of your activity.
True, but you did comment on what you expected about my level of activity (not getting involved in the discussion), an expectation that you used as evidence to make the post in the link seem suspicious because it was a noob getting involved in the discussion, even though you knew from reading the Lucid Dreamers mafia that I do get involved in the discussion.
How does this make any sense?
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@drafterman
It was painful to watch that lynch at MYLO the first time.
If you already read it, then why did you expect me to be inactive in this one after I was active in that one?
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@drafterman
I just don't see a noob getting involve in the discussion at all.
Go read the Lucid Dreamer's mafia. That was my first online mafia, and I was one of, if not the, most active players. Maybe that's true of other noobs, but it definitely isn't true of this one.
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@drafterman
Are you serious, or did you link to the wrong post? How, in any possible reading, is that post experienced insight? All I did was point out that simply because you died didn't mean you lost, because your team won. That is pretty much the furthest from experienced insight it could be.
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