Speedrace

I'd say the same, I think the role link makes sense logically, though the phrasing doesn't say you are this because of this, it's more inferred.

*Glances wearily*

It is perceived as personal or emotional. 

She wasn't tunneling. She expressed willingness to lynch herself multiple times and made a solid case against drafter while highlighting behavior she thought was scummy from other players as well.

But they had no reason besides your play I called

Town lost the game lynching Water on DP2. Why would Water say Pie could confirm him if he was mafia?! That lynch was insanely rushed, especially with a Caroler report. Obviously WaterPhoenix fucked up a bit but there was no need to lynch him so quickly. The day phase was like 10 minutes old and most people hadn't posted. What if there were other results? Smh. 

She literally spelled out an inconsistency of his alleged logic, and someone flip flopping like that is a scum tell -- yet she was the only one who caught it. You argued against all this analysis which was completely right, but you have the audacity to say she lost the game? LMAO stop. 

And I am going to keep saying that what I was saying was not bad reasoning because of the interactions occurring based on past games. I still think my logic wasn't bad despite what most people said and was not inherently scummy

I called Speed’s exact move he would do to frame me. He’s going to waive the NK and then you as a Jailor would jail me to suggest that I was the mafia, hence giving Speed the win. I said in the DP and knew I was gonna lose despite me knowing Speed and his play style through me playing games with him as mafia and his thought process. Extremely aggravated that no one listened but oh well

Been through enough games back to back that I think I’ll sit this one out.

come join the fun Mr. You Should Not Shoot NP1 as Vigilante 

Why did you flip from WF to Drafter when WF is gaining heat with Bullish's vote?

a very scum oriented goal. 

No Lynch (whiteflame, Supa) -- 2/7 votes 

Bullish (that1user, Water)  -- 2/7 votes

whiteflame (drafterman, Bullish) -- 2/7 votes

drafterman (Lunatic, LikeMagic) -- 2/7 votes 

SupaDudz (oromagi, Speedrace) -- 2/7 votes 

Supa is claiming the tim allen movie santa clause, not santa claus. I brought this up instantly and he clarified. I don't see the big deal

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• Tim Allen as Scott Calvin/Santa Claus
  

It's a scum slip. It is a scum oriented thought pattern, that scum did not take the time to reflect on before posting. There is no town utility to the statement, only scum concern and benefit. 

Does Elf on the Shelf line up with TRACKER for you?

I find this post scum oriented, trying to make sure they have a clear idea of which potential threat water presents to the scum team.

It is worth highlighting that Speed is trying to misrepresent and discredit the reads of one of the two players he should feel comfortable working with and trusting the reads from. Everyone agrees I am more likely town than not based on my claim and behavior frankly.

Yet Speed's big contribution is dismissing one of the other "known" townies and trying to make people not listen to them. 

This is a complete misrepresentation and an attempt to undermine well thought out and fully articulated analysis. I have fully read every post he has made. He fluff posted for the first 3-4 pages. He then played narrator, making no effort to scum hunt, either providing general info or echoing statements and sentiments from other people. With any slightly novel comments, he immediately backed down and 180'd when challenged even slightly. These are all scum tells on their own and are used as tactics to stay under the radar as scum. He has used them all in one game. He has said nothing to explain this behavior, especially is 180. His response was a half-assed argument that it was not a 180, which is false. When I brought a real challenge to affiliation, he returned, made one post, then disappeared. Another scum tactic used when you hope other conversations about other viable topics will take precedent over the scum read on you if you just "remove yourself" from the conversation long enough.

Other people were using she/her to talk about That1. I have no independent basis for using them, and hope I did not offend if I was wrong to do so. 

Not removing my vote from White

Weird that you feel the need to explain his behavior for him. It is a scum move to make a quick response or just avoid the heat entirely and wait in the wings for a subject change or for the heat to die down. I too have a big kid job and a wife, but the same scum tactics apply. 

So there is nothing inherently town about this behavior from white, seems to be what you are conceding. 

We just went through an entire game last game where everyone was bashing Water for not being able to come up with ploys like this. There was a whole thing were Water and/or Speed were suspected of being scum but it was dismissed because if Water was scum, his partners wouldn't have let him claim what he claimed.

I thought you agreed that his logic seemed contrived earlier; What changed?

It is notable that White has disappeared likely hoping any heat on him will die down. He dropped one quick rebuttal and is now probably sitting back and waiting until it's safer for him to come back in.