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It's the dying wish of Pie, Barney said Pie was scum and is now proven Vanilla town, Barney failed to pursue/follow up on GP significantly 

I am the Houston Texans.  

Whiteflame - Hard to read, slight lean town for now because he's got good analysis

What analysis? Need to see, you have a post #?

I looked into his past games, and there doesn't seem to be any correlation between his affiliation and claiming his role in the first post.

Same to you: conference and division.

Things are busy on my end. Moving into our house at long last. Getting in my exercise.

I think scum teams make a mistake by leaving GP alive until the endgame. His gut was spot on, and he is like an iceberg, keeping most of his thoughts to himself, but he displays a lot of competence in hunting scum

If I was in WF’s position on MYLO you’d be dead and we would’ve won.

...Why? We don't know if Supa can self-target (and Supa, please don't say if you can), but given that scum doesn't know that either, there's a good chance they'll avoid targeting him if they think he will Doc himself. As far as I'm concerned, Supa's about as town confirmed in this game as anyone besides me. He has claimed Doc as scum in a previous game, but there was already a protective role on the board and the possibility of being CC'd here just makes the claim incredibly ballsy. Either Supa has inside knowledge as scum that allowed him to make this claim at the end of DP1, or he's town. His death (or lack thereof) during NP2 is unlikely to change my perception of him.

So... we're just not going to mention the fact that this is the third Vanilla claim, that one of those Vanilla claims is confirmed, and that the other is someone you strongly townread? It's possible that Luna just put 3 Vanillas in this game, but especially given that I'm functionally just town-confirmed Vanilla, that's a pretty weak town. Poly did set up an even weaker town last game (a Miller, an Enabler, a DP3 Innocent Child and 2 Vanillas out of 8 town), but it does nonetheless strike me as unusual.

why did you claim?

You're not addressing the issue. We're all familiar with Wylted taking hardline stances on who is suspicious utilizing reasoning that the rest of us find unconvincing. I specifically have been pointing out that he went to far greater lengths in DP1 to make his point than I've ever seen from him, including writing up a whole Google Doc with sources to better establish his points. Have you ever seen Wylted do that in a game?

Evil was about as active as you were, actually, with 4 posts to your 7. He didn't provide his reads until after you gave yours, so I'll give you that he wasn't exactly contributing heavily, but he had already been sussing Wylted up to that point. I could understand dismissing his contributions as uninformative up to that point,

but I also pointed out several times that GP did not claim according to his meta, which is to full claim in his first post rather than only claiming his role.

I also disagree that there wasn't much to go on for Pie. I know he's notoriously hard to read, but seriously, question marks dude?

Like I said above, I think Wylted's behavior should stand out to anyone who read the DP, even if you don't scumread him over it.

His basically nonexistent analysis of Pie, Evilgenius and GP also stood out to me.

This is scummy af from Supa lol

You gonna post reads or do I need to put you at L-1?

This is his third or fourth game and in each we’ve told him not to claim.

I specifically remember telling him in my Roman Battles Mafia to not claim unless asked. I have an FoS on him at the moment.

Good catch. I townread you for this. Claims role but not character when previously he’s full claimed. Combined with the fact that he has been told multiple to not claim unless asked to, just makes this seem like something his scum partner would’ve told him to do to look like noob town.

Vanilla is honestly not the kind of claim you want to make at the start of DP1. There are claims that affect town deeply and should be mentioned here, but Vanillas generally want to keep themselves hidden as much as possible and provide some distraction from potential power roles. Essentially, at this stage, it would have been best to keep this secret.

That being said, please, do not give your character claim. 

Ok, I am vanilla.

 I understand picking someone who you townread, but choosing the same target twice doesn't exactly scream "unpredictable" to me,

nor does it make a whole lot of sense to try to be unpredictable during NP1 when no one knew your role.

Who did you target each NP?

What type of conversation happens in the scum PM where Earth's partner tells him to change his claim from bodyguard to bulletproof?

Who is earth's scum buddy?