Speedrace

He is bleeding noob town. He posts and talks this same way in every game he is in.  Long lines of analysis that are pretty obvious. He's new to mafia and trying to feel his way through the game

Luna flipped vanilla 

For all we know he was meming that role

Sweet baby Jesus, finally a game where speed is town.

You were the one making the case that said the roles function as implied on his list when I had a fake claim to reaction test.  

This is bullshit because drafter has confirmed that the roles function the same way in his list. Will confirm this as well 

Possible but it makes more sense there’s a cop considering there isn’t a Mason anymore. Unless Whiteflame is some type of similar role 

Did you see who he got a guilty on. That's why 

What about scum partner giving fake claim?

How croc hard town?

People did choose to claim for separate reasons, but you achieved the aim of the mass claim even if the effort itself wasn’t the reason for achieving it.

I find your claim as vanilla to be pretty convenient after having pushed for the mass claim. It might be real, but whether it’s out of sheer paranoia or reasonable distrust, I’d say that if your goal was to unveil as many town roles as possible while giving nothing away, you were certainly successful.

Speed is still the most suspect to me.

A TP would make sense in a Paranoia Theme

1) he did , ask luna 

2) I've played in countless role madness games my bro. I'm 32. I was playing this when you were in middle school (literally not even a joke)

I'm assuming this is a role madness type thing. 

3) I don't buy into metas that much. They are far to easy to abuse once you have established a norm 

Speed would fake claim by this point.

A) drafter literally has luna blocked. What are you even on about lol 

B) 2 vanilla's are not used in a game to induce paranoia that is quite literally a DD level take 

C) you can suggest a mass claim and let's say someone claims cop, then watcher and you know parrot is a mason. It opens up the possibility of claiming doc. The more poe you have on roles in the game the easier it is to make a fake claim. Also easier for nk targets 

The title of this game is paranoia which implies at least some degree of role madness. So I sincerely think a majority of the players in this game will have roles that make you question results or roles that will fuck with results to fulfill the game title. Vanilla just seems off especially since I know I am one. 2 in a game is a stretch for me 

We will agree to disagree on drafter randomizing. You will never convince me a player that he thought was brand new guy vanilla, and a player he just fought with vigorously and blocked got a role where he can't talk and can kill himself is randomized. Drafter could mod confirm he randomized and I still wouldn't buy it. 

Suggesting a mass claim can be good for a lot of reasons. There is a list of roles. If more people claim before you it opens up the ability to fake claim easily but with me popcorning you as the second person, it's quite likely you are scared to take a shot with a role. 

I said not overreading him if you read the post. Now your nit-picking information to try to make yourself sound better

I'm legitimately vanilla and I think I'm only vanilla because drafter thought I was a new player and gave me an easy role. I don't buy speed as vanilla

Speeds claim is just off. I also similarly believe there probably aren't vanilla roles other than mine.

So then I evaluate whether it's town sided or scum sided. With all the investigation roles and me buying they are town currently, I don't see why he would not be honest. He's probably scared to fake claim and get cc'ed. 

The thing is I can't see him claiming vanilla as scum either.

Drafter told me that the DP would end if a filibuster or gallis reached 6/6 votes. So Pie can't be either

Where did he tell you this?

You guys are reading way too much into this lol, that's exactly what Drafter wanted you to do

Why Pie over someone who is essentially confirmed scum?

There's also a plethora of Speed jumping to large conclusions about the game within DP1, leading me to believe he has more insight than townies might know. He also seems to be accusatory, hypocritcal (calling me out for not overreading Lunatic when he did so himself and then proceeded to say the same thing)