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@ILikePie5
Oh wow, I must believe you now since you said you're telling the truth
Let's lynch Press guys
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@Lunatic
What does this mean? Mainly, what does the dash mean?Drafterman-_____________-______
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@SirAnonymous
His logic between that Justice was complete garbage. We already know Press is Mafia or jester; he wouldn't claim jester if he was town
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@ILikePie5
Yet I was able to take other actions lol. I gave myself a key and used it, then gave one to Sir and Water. I'm guessing you tried to NK me ;)
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Press claiming Jester, whether he's lying or not, has basically insured a town victory
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@ILikePie5
Yes you can. I used a key and gave a key. Water motivated me and used a key
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@ILikePie5
We already know you're lying. I'm confirmed, Sir is confirmed, and Water is confirmed. So are you claiming jester?
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@SirAnonymous
Ok, you cop Pie. I think we should lynch him simply because he was on here a few minutes before the DP went up. If he was jester, he wouldn't have an action to submit, but he would if he was Mafia.
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@Lunatic
If Sir gets motivated, can he use his 1x cop ability a second time?
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@Lunatic
If a jester gets copped, what result gets returned?
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@SirAnonymous
I lied about waiving my second key. I used my first key to make myself immune, I gave the second one to you. I'm effectively bulletproof lol
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@SirAnonymous
Pie is Mafia then or jester lol. Cop him, we won't lynch, we'll make sure
UNVOTE
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@Lunatic
Why didn't you reveal yourself after I got hammered last game? Lol
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Mafia probably hit the person who got my key
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@PressF4Respect
Funny how the last time you were online was right before the DP went up
Even though you don't have an action
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@ILikePie5
@SirAnonymous
Results?
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@WaterPhoenix
Please remember to motivate me again
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@ILikePie5
Lol only if Mafia throws. If not, then we're ok. If Mafia wants to lose, that's on them
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@ILikePie5
Mafia can still win if they NK Press though
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@ILikePie5
Yup and Town will lose too cause they knowingly lynched a confessed Jester.
Just because he said he's the Jester doesn't mean he is. If he isn't, the real Jester can't CC for obvious reasons.
So you're saying that you think Mafia will be ok with losing, because they'll allow us to lynch him.
If we DON'T do the plan, and Press IS Mafia, then he's unlynchable because you've assumed he is Jester
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@ILikePie5
The logic is that Mafia would lose in that scenario, therefore, they have to NK him or lose. The only way the plan doesn't work is if they choose to throw. It's reasonable to assume they DON'T want to throw, therefore, we should do the plan
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@ILikePie5
And no, that's not an out. If Mafia is anyone who isn't Press, they'll kill someone who isn't Press. Then we vote Press, he votes himself, Mafia loses. Therefore, they still have to NK Press or lose.
If Mafia IS press, he'll kill anyone, we vote him, Jester votes because he would be revealed if he doesn't. Jester can't win no matter what
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@ILikePie5
Jester won't win anyway, and therefore has no reason not to vote Mafia
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@ILikePie5
Which is why we should do the plan that LITERALLY NKS THE JESTER if you haven't been reading
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@SirAnonymous
+1 precisely my sentimentsIf they have an out, we need to know what it is so we don't do the plan. If they have an out, then we shouldn't do the plan, so the out won't matter.
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@ILikePie5
I'm starting to suspect that YOU'RE the mafia. This plan entirely hinges on Mafia wanting to win, so the only reason to not do the plan is we think Mafia is ok with throwing. And then you come up with some "out" that you can't say?
You're excuse for not saying it was that we have inexperienced players. That would really be press and water, but Water is confirmed, and press can't kill himself, so if he's Mafia, there is no out
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@ILikePie5
So tell me lol. If we don't do the plan, then the out doesn't matter since we're not doing the plan...
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@ILikePie5
Do you think Mafia wants to win? Yes or no. If you think Mafia is ok with throwing, then go ahead, don't follow the plan. But if you think Mafia wants to win, THERE'S NO REASON TO NOT DO IT. Literally the only way this doesn't go our way is if Mafia is ok with losing
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@WaterPhoenix
Will you follow my plan to lynch Press if he isn't NKd?
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@SirAnonymous
It's not. How would it be possible? He he's lynched, he wins, period. It's also in the role sheet as well I believe
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@ILikePie5
@SirAnonymous
Follow the plan. If Press ISN'T NKd, he MUST be Mafia
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@ILikePie5
It’s idiotic for town to lynch while a Jester is alive. Especially a confessed Jester
The plan literally NKs the Jester, that's the entire point
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@SirAnonymous
I have no reason to bluff. If I get two other people to agree with me, then Mafia has to NK press. If not, the only logical solution is that he himself must be Mafia
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@ILikePie5
Ya we’ll lose too. Doesn’t matter to mafia. To them y’all dug your own grave lmao
Yes, that's why I said it's flawless unless they throw. If they throw then we lose to, but they lose as well. That's the risk, but I'm counting on Mafia wanting to win
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@SirAnonymous
"you" for Pie was me, not you lol
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@ILikePie5
Do you not see how we're forcing Mafia's hand here? If Press doesn't die, HE must therefore be Mafia. Unless Mafia throws, this is a flawless plan
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@ILikePie5
Dude. We're saying to Mafia, you HAVE TO KILL THE JESTER or we will lynch him and you'll lose. Do they have to kill jester for their son condition? No, of course not, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying we're forcing their hand and MAKING them kill the jester because they'll lose if they don't
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@ILikePie5
The only way they can get out of this is if they're a role cop, already role copped Press, and know he's not a Jester. That's incredibly unlikely
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@SirAnonymous
Assuming it can't joint win (it can't but I'll wait for Lunatic to confirm), will you back me on this?
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@SirAnonymous
Let's someone do an action twice
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@ILikePie5
WHICH IS WHY I'M FORCING THEM TO KILL THE JESTER so that he doesn't get lynched. This is what I'm telling Mafia:No lol that’s not how it works. Mafia wincondition is different. You wanting to lynch If the Jester is alive is stupid
"If you don't kill the Jester, YOU WILL LOSE THE GAME because we'll lynch him. Therefore, you HAVE TO NK the jester or lose"
Mafia doesn't WANT to NK jester, but they HAVE TO so they they don't lose
You’re possibly forcing us to lose too lol
Only if Mafia throws
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@ILikePie5
Mafia don’t have to kill him. Their win condition is different lol
Yes, they do, because we'll lynch him if they don't. We're forcing them to lose unless they NK him
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