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@Discipulus_Didicit
No, didn't even know it happened until you tagged me
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@Lunatic
The first one was a crushing victory for yellow 🙂
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@SirAnonymous
He got grounded during my game, I'm guessing that's happened here
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@AvoidDeath
You literally used your VTNLing as a reason why you shouldn't be lynched
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@AvoidDeath
I think you're joking, but if not, this is completely wrong, VTNLing is pro SKWe should VTNL on every DP1 as I look at it. You cannot scum tell if you have 36 hours to do so. And wouldn't a mafioso move be to lynch someone, not supporting peace?Â
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@AvoidDeath
Because of your early advocacy for VTNL mostly
There was something else but I gotta reread the DP to find it
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@AvoidDeath
Alrighty
No worries! Just don't repeat lol
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@Mharman
@AvoidDeath
I know
Still, I'm like 80% sure you deleted a post...
No offense to you
Mharman can you look
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@AvoidDeath
Editing posts is against the rules
Mharman shouldn't get mad at you but don't do it again
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@AvoidDeath
Did you delete a post? You mentioned me in one but it's not here
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Didn't say this earlier but I want to lynch between Avoid and Supa. Can't remember what it was but AD rubs me the wrong way
VTL AvoidDeath
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@Discipulus_Didicit
@SirAnonymous
Nice with the mafia team up
I'm also suspecting Disc is the second mafia
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@SirAnonymous
Grey isn't sensicalÂ
VTL GreyParrot
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For anyone wanting my math
Town RB: 3 targets (killing Mafia and two SKs), 11 people to choose from (they wouldn't do themselves), 3/11 = .2727... so 27%, my bad
Mafia RB: 2 targets (only ones beneficial to survivors at least), out of 10 because they won't choose themselves or their partner, 2/10 = .2
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Actually, the odds are even lower. Town has to hit the specific mafia doing the kill or the two SKs, making their odds 28%
Mafia only has to hit 2 SKs (the only scenario beneficial to survivors at least), so their odds are 20%
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@PressF4Respect
Bus drivers don't stop kills, so they are effectively useless to Survivors. Doctors have no incentive to protect anyone other than themselves, making them equally useless. A town roleblocker, while useful, only has a 36% chance of hitting an SK or Mafia, and a Mafia roleblocker only has a 40% chance of hitting an SK or town. Because of this, I don't think it's fair to compare hitting a power role to stopping an SK or SK target
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@Lunatic
You weren't wrong for voting Air by the way, there was no logical reason to do anything different than what you did
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@Lunatic
Thanks dude, I think you played well as well
If I hadn't role copped Air earlier, I probably would've went in and hammered him instantly, and then lost lol, it was really chance at that point
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@drafterman
Because he tunneled. Lunatic being a distraction wasn't his fault, Grey and Wylted are just stubborn
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@Greyparrot
And? That doesn’t mean anything. Town can be and is usually wrong
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@Greyparrot
I know lol, that’s why I left him alive
 He was just so distracting for you and AROSE and partially for Max, so keeping him alive was useful
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Firstly, my claim. We were given a safe claim of Stanley. I stole the compulsive visitor idea from Bsh's celebrity Mafia game. I'm very surprised no one called me out for that! It was useful, one, because I was a role cop and I could visit whoever I wanted without suspicion, and two because it gave me a balance analysis. I knew there was a watcher or tracker because we had a ninja (didn't expect both) so I knew I could kind of CC Press for being a cop. I just thought it would be strange to have both a cop and a watcher. I said I could confirm him as a PGO because having a PGO and a visitor makes complete sense. Overall, that claim just so happened to fit perfectly into this game.
DP1 and DP2 was just me hiding out trying not to get lynched, and (kind of) bussing SA and Supa. DP3 I think I helped because I wasn't afraid to say that I thought someone was town. Mafia tends to keep all avenues open, so me saying that I was sure Lunatic was town helped, and then him staying alive made me a bit more townie in his eyes.
We killed Water DP2 because we thought he might have a role. Didn't even occur to us until later that he was town confirmed.
DP3 we killed Wylted specifically because we told Oro to watch him. I KNEW Oro would watch either Press or Wylted, and since Wylted said out loud that Oro should watch him, I figured Oro would do the exact opposite. I'm really glad I was right! Besides that, I knew Lunatic would be 100% town confirmed if Wylted tracked him while I did the NK, and I wanted Lunatic alive specifically so that Grey and friends would tunnel him.
DP4, Grey's tunneling helped TREMENDOUSLY. Since Lunatic had been investigated, Grey assumed that there was a grandfather (Lunatic did this earlier as well). Press was AMAZING pretending to be a PGO, he's absolutely town MVP. Since town established that there was a grandfather, I didn't have to worry about killing investigated players at all. I killed Oro because I knew he would probably be watching Press. It was a gamble that Press wouldn't watch me. That was CLUTCH on the last night.
DP5, obviously had to NK Press, and I also just went along with the AROSE lynch just because.
After that, it was pretty much a guaranteed win. Grey lost that game for y'all big time.
DON'T TUNNEL
DP1 and DP2 was just me hiding out trying not to get lynched, and (kind of) bussing SA and Supa. DP3 I think I helped because I wasn't afraid to say that I thought someone was town. Mafia tends to keep all avenues open, so me saying that I was sure Lunatic was town helped, and then him staying alive made me a bit more townie in his eyes.
We killed Water DP2 because we thought he might have a role. Didn't even occur to us until later that he was town confirmed.
DP3 we killed Wylted specifically because we told Oro to watch him. I KNEW Oro would watch either Press or Wylted, and since Wylted said out loud that Oro should watch him, I figured Oro would do the exact opposite. I'm really glad I was right! Besides that, I knew Lunatic would be 100% town confirmed if Wylted tracked him while I did the NK, and I wanted Lunatic alive specifically so that Grey and friends would tunnel him.
DP4, Grey's tunneling helped TREMENDOUSLY. Since Lunatic had been investigated, Grey assumed that there was a grandfather (Lunatic did this earlier as well). Press was AMAZING pretending to be a PGO, he's absolutely town MVP. Since town established that there was a grandfather, I didn't have to worry about killing investigated players at all. I killed Oro because I knew he would probably be watching Press. It was a gamble that Press wouldn't watch me. That was CLUTCH on the last night.
DP5, obviously had to NK Press, and I also just went along with the AROSE lynch just because.
After that, it was pretty much a guaranteed win. Grey lost that game for y'all big time.
DON'T TUNNEL
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@drafterman
Thanks dude!! I'm gonna post why I did everything I did later
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@Greyparrot
If we had killed Max, would you have still voted lunatic in LYLO?
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@Lunatic
GG dude
If it wasn't for Grey y'all might've won lol
I WAS SO SCARED THAT PRESS WOULD INVESTIGATE ME LOL
I'm not a grandfather so I was horrified
By the way Grey was town confirmed because Wylted tracked him when there was an NK, I think people just forgot about that lol
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@Lunatic
Precisely, I think this would've gone differently if air was online
My guess is Warren recently informed him about it
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@Lunatic
We needed your vote LOL GG DUDE I'M LITERALLY SHAKING RIGHT NOW
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@Lunatic
I role copped airÂ
Because of that, Warren informed us that air isn't hated at LYLO
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@Lunatic
I know
Your vote was a test. But now I'm realizing it doesn't matter, right? If the DP is over, it's over, and you're scum and you won because you voted him. However, the only other possible combination from my point of view is that your vote DIDN'T count, meaning he's scum
VTL Airmax
Just because, either way, me voting him doesn't matter. Either you're scum and you already won, which I DOUBT since you would be doing a victory lap, or air is scum and we are voting him
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@Lunatic
If not, I think it's a hammer. I'm not hammering and you're not hammering either, I don't think there's any other combination of how this could go
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@Greyparrot
DO NOT VOTE LUNATIC
DO NOT DO IT NO MATTER WHAT
We have one small chance
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@Lunatic
If that's true, we've basically sealed his fate. If he doesn't vote, we know he has to be scum, but if he does it could be either or. BUT if you don't get hammered then it's an easy win
Not even sure if he reads these messages
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@Lunatic
Ok, although if Air doesn't agree then it won't happen period
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Should we VTNL? My only problem with that is that no extra information will be gotten tonight...so it wouldn't make a real difference :/
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