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@ebuc
how often does a total replacement of the cells/dna in the human body occur? the cells etc I had as a baby are all done, dead, replaced with new and even different ones, is that correct? Seems like I heard that once long ago, but can't recall 100%
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@TheRealNihilist
And? Missing another key thing that can impact your experiences. Should I just tell you?
sure tell me, you won't ruin the surprise haha
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@ebuc
I had a commodore-64!!! lol
that quote is pretty much what I was thinking, though, naturally he said it better :)
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@TheRealNihilist
In order to know who you are would you would have to experience everything?
to a certain degree, yes, often new experiences reveal things we didn't know about your selves, true?
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@ebuc
I had to look him up :) I'm definitely going to read his stuff, thank you.
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@TheRealNihilist
So can you answer the most concrete concept of who you are?
no, because I haven't experienced everything, isn't that how we describe ourselves? how and what we think or react to experiences?
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@TheRealNihilist
sure, we are in constant change because of new experiences, new knowledge etc.
I'm definitely far different than when I was 16 years old.
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@TheRealNihilist
Are you you when ate the pear or is that still you?
we are ever changing because of external influences aren't we?
When are you most you? When your experiences molded you or when it didn't?
most you? I'm not sure what that means, we are who we are.
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@TheRealNihilist
ah I see what you mean I think, very thought provoking btw
The way I think about it is, if it wasn't for (experience) then in the future you wouldn't respond in a certain way had it not been for that (experience)
Child is bitten by a dog, has a fear of dogs growing up acts accordingly
Child isn't bitten by a dog does not have a fear of dogs grows up accordingly
this fear or lack of affects many aspects of that child/adult's life, experiences mold people in the way they act, react, likes, dislikes, morals etc It makes us who we are.
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@Alec
In theory that makes sense. Though I could see, for example, fast food restaurants getting together and making and agreement to not pay more than $1 per hour which will keep all of their costs low. While they are in competition with each other they could specialize so to speak making the direct competition with each other not as aggressive. That's what I would do anyway.
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@EtrnlVw
You are the one observing those experiences, you are not those experiences. They don't make who you really are, they just play the role of a movie not the actor. The actor is the one observing the role, the experience. One comes before the other.
you've never experienced anything that's had a profound impact on you, which changes how you view or do certain things, I'm sure you have. This happens since birth which is why I made my initial statement, which I believe is accurate and true.
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@TheRealNihilist
Without those experiences you are not you?
our experiences change and mold us do they not? how could it be any other way?
So lets say if a scenario played out differently because we are hypothetically able to change what you do. You are not you when you did something else?
I'm not understanding what you are asking.
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@janesix
no
Are we created in God's image?
imagine God is an artist, human was the image he had and made into reality, maybe a sculptor would be better
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$47.76 for 2 years seems very reasonable, though I don't really think I need a vpn it's good info in case I find myself in the market for one, thanks for the info.
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@janesix
it could mean many things I guess, it could mean how he "imagined" we should look like for instance.
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@disgusted
yeah leftist are like the trailer park boyfriend, they beat you, control you, because they love you.
MOST PEOPLE ARE ONLY interested in themselves, not sure what planet you live on, but here on Earth this is how it is, has been, will be.
care to share any other ground breaking wisdom?
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@disgusted
do you believe science, right now could make a protein shell and place within it RNA which essentially would be a virus?
this imo would be the first step in creating more advanced life forms which will be possible as science advances. I think it would be possible to create a human being from scratch when technology develops enough. We figured out a while ago you don't actually need sperm to fertilize an egg, all you need is the actual genetic material, DNA to do it.
It's conceivable that if there is a creator, intelligent designer creating life would be a small feat compared to creating reality as we know it.
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@3RU7AL
I'm not convinced either way because of the limited actual facts/knowledge and the limitations of my understanding. While it's interesting to talk about and think about it doesn't control or run my life, not that I'm conscious of anyway.
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@3RU7AL
there are no straight lines I don't believe, just guesses is all which is why I worded my statement as I did, not drawing any lines or conclusions.
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Does Science Argue for or against God?
obviously it doesn't prove anything one way or the other but it does help to understand why people think and or believe what they do.
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@Alec
there are some of Sander's ideas I do like, but he's too socialist for me, it's too bad, if he was a moderate and more thoughtful for all American's I could maybe be on his side.
Kyle Kullunski/Secular talk
no, never heard of it.
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@Alec
I don't like any of the tbh, but I hope Biden wins because I think Trump could crush him. Though if I absolutely had to choose it would probably Sanders.
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@Alec
I think you are right, he shouldn't win but i think he will.
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@Greyparrot
yeah and sales went crazy, wasn't a good thing or a good time. I don't want people panic buying, it wasn't good then and it will be worse next time. We will see the rise of 3d and other alternative material diy weapons, she will create and increase the demand imo. It will be a focus and distraction away from the really important things and further reduce stability in the country. I can't believe how low prices are right now, it's because no one is buying like during Obama, and that's not a bad thing. For me personally, this is going to be another election between the lesser of 2 evils.
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@dustryder
This part is absolutely undeniable as he caused an evacuation of the Walmart because he disregarded the impact and perception of his gear and attire.
ok that's interesting and that would the the argument for the government, however the evacuation was cause by the manager pulling the alarm so this would be very interesting to follow though I don't think it will get much coverage and there won't be those kinds of detail.
so basically you are saying it's not so much his actions but how he looked is what cause the alarm to be pulled and everything else that transpired, that's interesting, I don't know how that will work given the freedom of expression and what not, it's a very interesting tangle. He made not threatening gestures or acts physically, but the argument is the perception of the manage or whom ever pulled the alarm.
Here's the thing. People call the cops on people who are legally carrying, lots of videos about that but again that's legal. In Missouri it's legal to carry what he did as he did so that shouldn't cause a panic, that's not a defense or a reason in itself to call the police. It will come down to all of it as you pointed out with the body armor etc.
I don't know if that's sufficient to file charges or that he would be found guilty by a jury because of expression etc. Wish I could really get the details and follow it, though it probably won't go anywhere.
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@dustryder
you are describing being scared, yes I would have been scared, nervous seeing him, however that doesn't mean he's breaking the law. I would feel the same if there was a group of people with gang tattoos but if they aren't breaking the law they aren't terrorizing.
intent and prosecuting attorney's decision
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@RationalMadman
read the laws I have desire to explain them on an elementary grade level so you can understand them.
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@dustryder
again pushing a shopping cart is not terrorizing
has that Walmart posted signs or said that firearms are not allowed?
so was he "terrorizing" or not in good faith to prevent harm? because the latter hasn't been mentioned yet.
he wasn't brandishing or saying anything to anyone, pushing a shopping cart and filming, his hands were full and occupied hardly a threat.
if anything pulling the alarm freaked out people more than was needed. They could have asked him to leave over the intercom which he is obligated by law to do.
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@RationalMadman
look up the term "the devil I know" or 'better the devil you know than the devil you don't'
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@dustryder
There was no harm for him to prevent so he is not protected by this clause.
dude seriously? How can you prevent harm unless you are prepared to do so? Was there not harm in a Walmart already once? I mean I'm not even a lawyer and I can debunk whatever charges they MIGHT file based on what I know. Afaik the D.A. hasn't actually filed anything yet and that could very well be there is not case here.
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@Dr.Franklin
I'm not part of a group they patronize so....
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@dustryder
However the wording of "purpose to prevent harm" is not.
body armor does not harm it prevents harm so we can set that aside.
the purpose of open carry or concealed is to prevent harm to one's self or others. If his secondary purpose was to see what would happen, so what. Many things have dual or many purposes wouldn't you agree?
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@Dr.Franklin
he's the only logical choice given who is running against him.
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@RationalMadman
concede to what? lol
you call laws you don't understand propaganda? are you a socialist/communist? sounds like it.
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@RationalMadman
clearly there seems to be some comprehension difficulty with you and leftest in general. A store has the right to keep or ban people from bringing guns into their stores, this is common knowledge so you are just arguing with yourself, enjoy.
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@RationalMadman
lol I never said the store didn't have that right, but at that point they didn't tell him, nor had any signs to indicate gun prohibition like other "gun free zones" have posted.
you obviously didn't read or understand that state's open carry laws.
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@RationalMadman
people often have the legal right to be stupid, this is a classic example of that.
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@dustryder
yes but you sited the concealed carry law I sited the open carry law, as I said before he was not arrested for illegally carrying any sort of gun or wearing body armor.
He was not charged with a gun crime specifically but rather
"Missouri protects the right to open carry a firearm, but that right does not allow an individual to act in a reckless and criminal manner, endangering other citizens," Patterson said.
"All we know is the fact that he walked in here heavily armed with body armor on, in military fatigues and caused a great amount of panic inside the store.
that's what I was talking about when I said camo
KY3 reports as of Friday afternoon, the Greene County, Mo. prosecutor hasn't filed formal charges in the case.
well isn't that interesting
For instance, even someone who holds a valid conceal-carry endorsement and is openly carrying a gun can run afoul of the law "if the firearm is intentionally displayed in an angry or threatening manner, not in necessary self-defense."
carrying and pushing a shopping cart is considered "intentionally displayed in an angry or threatening manner? Oh he we filming himself also.
I would urge you to go back and read my links and post on that state's open carry laws. I don't believe he actually broke any laws.
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@dustryder
isn't it about ar-15? isn't that one of the main reasons he looked so scary? I'm under the impression that you found him threatening because of the ar-15 even without the body armor or am I mistaken?
what makes someone "combat ready"?
I don't see camo clothing as being very useful in Walmart
doing something you can legally do can't be considered terrorizing others afaik
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@dustryder
well people are scared by the ar, this has been proven time and again when pictures of a .223 with a wood stock is show next to an ar, even though they fire the same round and accept the same magazines, the black rifle is scary, if it has wood it's not, this is not a logical or rational judgement.
people carry for their own personal protection or the protection of others, I mean isn't that what the wanna be cop retired firefighter thought he was doing? Why can't someone wear body armor for extra protection? Cops and military wear it for that purpose so why can't a citizen?
no by camo I mean camo clothing which is what he was wearing also, thus my question about replacing the camo clothing with a business suit. If a person in a business suit with a black vest aka plate carrier was how this guy looked do you think the reactions would have been the same?
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@dustryder
you do know that ar-15 are used in less than 1% of murders right? I know people think they are scary looking but there's a much greater chance of being killed with many other things.
there's no argument about what he did was extremely stupid and unhelpful.
so your only objections are to ar-15's and the body armor?
if he was just wearing the camo and had an opened carried handgun that would be acceptable?
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@disgusted
I said you have been dismissed, you may leave now, good day to you sir.
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@dustryder
and in an open carry state the vast majority of people who open carry do not commit crimes either they just want a chance to defend themselves if the situation arises, you see same thing.
let me ask you if any or all of these examples you would view the same way as the guy we are talking about
guy wearing a business suit with an ar-15 on his back also wearing the armor and a handgun at his side
same as above but without the ar-15
ar-15, hand gun no armor
ar-15 only
handgun and armor
handgun only
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@disgusted
you don't understand and have no comprehension of what rights actually are so I dismiss your words typed in ignorance.
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@Snoopy
what he did was dumb and I wish he hadn't have done it.
if we didn't speculate then you may as well close this site down really, it's fun to do.
again you can't pull a gun on someone willy nilly you better have a dam good reason which isn't just because someone looks scary.
yes police can approach whom ever they wish and anyone has the right to now talk to them and walk away if they are not being lawfully detained, again lots of videos on the subject.
you may find value in the stop and ask/frisk but I see that as the beginnings of a police state, no thanks.
Fourth Circuit Finds That Carrying A Firearm In An Open-Carry State Does Not Create Reasonable Suspicion And Provides Thorough Analysis Of The "Free To Leave" Standard Of Seizure
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@dustryder
the law defines what is threatening not personal feelings. From the little they have released or that I heard, law enforcement has not said that carrying how, what and where he did was illegal in that state nor was wearing the body armor. But instead they claimed something he did, his actions is what got him arrested. If that's the case the store video will show one way or the other if he was actually acting in a threatening manner.
If I see some black guy who I think looks like a gang member can I draw on him in a store? He makes me feel threatened after all......you see the issue with feelings?
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@dustryder
I suppose it depends. Do you commonly have people walking around shops in combat armour and bearing a gun in the US? Because if you don't, the next most probable expectation is likely to be a shootout.I imagine the prospect of being shot is threatening to most people.
whether it's common or not is irrelevant, if what he was doing was legal and within his rights then that is that case closed.
does anyone who carries a gun give you the prospect of being shot? if not does it depend on what they look like? or what is the criteria we should go by?
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