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@Intelligence_06
Your source of video is only authleft(communism/socialism).
if you ain't a tankie, your an extremist. REEEEEEE

Remember, equal rights, BLM and LGBTQ movements are still left, lib left I think.
bAsIcAllY fAsCiStS

Funny enough, I am also libcenter in the political compass test.
I am close to that.

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I am far left I think...you know what that means!!!!!!

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Warren's Walrus Reveal
This was good fun. 
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Chinese Economy Stalls for the Second Time in 4 Years

Why is this? What are your thoughts?
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Post for a profile picture that I think you will love.
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@RationalMadman
hallucinogens
loyalty
IQ
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@RationalMadman
Are you still doing this?
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Walrus (Music Game)
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@RationalMadman
You sure love country music. I liked your #2 the most.
I do like country quite a bit, and #2 is truly a classic.

Make sure you PM him.
Already done!

I think you will like this cover of Tainted Love, given your affliction for Country Music:
I like it, probably better than the original.
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Walrus (Music Game)

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If you could, what video game would you make into a movie
Star Craft.
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@warren42
I'll do this.
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Is it me or does this site use stackexchange style profile pictures?
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@User_2006
These are common default profile pictures I think. They are seen on sites like wordpress.com.
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Since Crocodile can make threads here for other subforums, I will too.
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@User_2006
agreed.
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@User_2006
I'm not sure, I have never really formulated a strategy for my debates, I just find data that supports me and I lay it out and draw it together for a clear conclusion. In all honesty your ability to debate  issues with no concrete facts to work off of far exceeds my own. However, despite my lack of an answer, I am pleased to have been perceived as worthy enough to provide a rejoinder to a very powerful question.
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The Flat Tax
On a conceptual level a flat tax has always seemed rather inefficient. However, it seems like most studies show a positive impact. This one shows how a flat tax increases revenue by 25%, increases productivity by 5%, and decreases tax evasion by 10.5%.

What do you guys think?
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@RationalMadman
I agree. Surprisingly accurate.
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@RationalMadman
I am ready sensei.
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If these right-wing nutjobs tell that it's a one-off incident, how did this come out 2 years ago?
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@RationalMadman
Who checks the bias of mediabiasfactcheck?
It's a pretty good source imo, it actually seems biased to the left. Rational wiki is basically leftist propaganda while conservapedia is basically alt right propaganda.  One was labled a questionable source while the other one got ranked as a high factuality source.



Yes and no. Founded as Silicon Alley Insider, it was renamed and relaunched as Business Insider circa 2009, by Henry Blodget. As others have noted, Mr. Blodget’s life has been controversial (a good article about his rise and fall and rise again is here: Henry Blodget's comeback complete after $343m sale of Business Insider). But Business Insider has continued to thrive, with millions of visitors to its website. Its core audience of “bankers, traders and tech geeks,” wrote Ian Burrell, a reporter for England’s The Independent, “…is overwhelmingly young and male. “They appreciate [Business Insider’s] mobile-friendly and graphics-illustrated guide to hot stocks.” And writing for Bloomberg News, Leonid Bershidsky noted that the publication benefits from being digital-only, and that “60 percent of its traffic comes from mobile devices and 39 percent from social networks.”
This is both good and bad. Business Insider is known for getting unique and interesting stories first, as well as for compelling story-telling; but since it is aimed at a younger and more tech-savvy audience, its detractors say the focus is on getting stories first, rather than getting them right; there have also been reports of extreme pressure on its writers to turn out more and more content for the site. In addition, Business Insider has been criticized for its tabloid and clickbait-style headlines. And some critics have said the site traffics in gossip as much as it does in business news. On the other hand, Business Insider remains very popular with its target audience and has absolutely reported some important stories; a number of its writers have solid reputations. Thus, while it certainly seems legitimate, you may want to contrast what it publishes with stories from more traditional business publications like Forbes, Financial Times, and the Wall Street Journal. (Even if it’s the best source in the world, it’s never a good idea to only get your news from one place!)

okay? So it certainly isn't fake news propaganda then.
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@RationalMadman

Business insider is a good source.
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Which system of economics offers unfettered freedom for personal gain?
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@RationalMadman
Isn't there ability to assist the poor merely a result of their wealth? This seems like the nations of sub Saharan Africa can be written off as capitalistic purely because they lack the means to support their poor.
If we look at competitiveness which is very different to fairness, we see Western Europe and western offshoots ranking pretty high up on the list. (check page 15 on the link)
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@RationalMadman
Wouldn't you say that most social democracies are leaning much more toward capitalism than socialism? There are two very clear indexes(1 and 2) demonstrating how free the markets and economies of western Europe are.
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Why do you support Israel?
I read the Wikipedia page and both sides seem to be pretty hard to defend. Israel has killed more people though, I think I want a 2 state solution.
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Fun games to play while in quarantine?
Ghosts and goblins has been fun as well.
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Fun games to play while in quarantine?
War Thunder. Not even a question, got like 500 hours in that game.
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Privatization of Education.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
Seems like the studies find no difference or private schools preforming better for grades when accounting for external factors. Not sure about things like attendance though or behavioural problems.
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Privatization of Education.
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@bmdrocks21
Biden's da MAN, Bernie is trash, and Trump is just really incompetent.
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Privatization of Education.
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@bmdrocks21
Sure, that probably fits me. I would call myself a libertarian but I don't like being lumped with the borderline anarchist libertarians.
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Privatization of Education.
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@bmdrocks21
Yes, for I am a capitalist who believes in individual liberty.
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WaterPhoenix AMA
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@WaterPhoenix
Favourite font?

Favourite car?
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Privatization of Education.
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@PressF4Respect
I agree.



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@PressF4Respect
Okay, I guess more data should be acquired then. But, even if this is off a little bit, more privatization in education is most definitely not a preposterous proposition. A quick scan of google scholar shows mixed results for quality and affordability.
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@PressF4Respect
100? It says "210 PhD. economists." And that's only the ones with PhD's. 
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@PressF4Respect
IK, I'm not for a free market or even a predominantly privatized education system.
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Privatization of Education.
I do not support a privatized system, but more privatization is popular amongst academics, so I would probably support that.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
Okay then, it does seem like we agree mostly. I will look more into "compassion fatigue." 'Twas an interesting conversation.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
it suggests there is racial bias, suggests is not fact right?  I wouldn't deny there is bias or even racial bias but context matters.  Regardless I don't think I have ever seen anyone claim that racial bias is the same as racism.  Do you think they are the same or different?
A racial bias is not necessarily racism, it could just be observing racial disparities and acting based on those disparities.  But even when accounting for these disparities we still see biases as proven in the studies. This isolates for one variable, race. Keep in mind I do not think most cops are racist,  it's probably a very small minority, but a lot of officers have biases that they aren't aware of.

I also noticed they use the term officers but not white officers, so if "officers" doesn't differentiate then that's a problem isn't it?
No, I don't think so, I believe there is racial bias in officers broadly, not just white officers. I am pretty sure black officer are more likely to shoot black people than white officers, so it isn't just "wHiTe gUy bAd." Rather, it's probably a broad bias in officers generally, at least that's what the data suggests.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
that short snippet of the meta analysis left out too many variables which is why I went to those studies, but maybe columbia law and yale are wrong.  None of it shows racism, at best all of it says, we don't know for certain, including your meta analysis.  So I still stand by my statement "you need to have some actual proof of racism within all the police departments in the U.S. otherwise you are just stoking the fires without facts." 
Okay, I understand your skepticism. I hate to hurl sources at you but this study controls for extraneous factors and found a racial bias. Are these controls sufficient? Keep in mind I'm trying to use sources and facts, I think their sufficient because they show a racial bias, police may have a statistical fear of African Americans, but this is still a bias that ought to be eliminated. My study in this post accounts for the different ways different races act around the police, and there was still a bias, so in similar circumstances officers are more likely to shoot black people.

We analyze data from 213 metropolitan areas over a 21‐year period, and examine two possible reasons for the disproportionately high number of Black suspects killed in police officer‐involved shootings. One account suggests that such shootings reflect racial bias on the part of police. A second account suggests that Black suspects behave differently (perhaps more aggressively) than White suspects, and that police respond to suspects’ behavior (but not race). Our analysis statistically controls for racial differences in criminal activity (a proxy for behavior) and provides a statistical test of the effect of race on police shootings. Results suggest that officers are more likely to shoot Black suspects, even when race‐based differences in crime are held constant.

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@TheDredPriateRoberts
People don't wish to be hurt, brutalized, victimized etc right?  So they would act in ways they think will minimize their risk and that includes bias.  I don't go to certain parts of the city because whatever actual risk there is, isn't worth it to me, bias or not doesn't matter to me.
this is really long and I didn't read it all.

I didn't read the whole thing either, I just used control F and found this.

""We suggest that the longstanding practice of deferring to the reasonableness of police officers’ expertise fails to effectively protect persons of color by allowing racial bias to influence an officer’s use of deadly force. Without rethinking the reasonableness standard, persons who are perceived to be dangerous on account of their race, the immediate social context of their encounter with the police, or their mental illness will remain at risk.""

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@TheDredPriateRoberts
In stark contrast to non-lethal uses of force, we find no racial differences in officer-involvedshootings on either the extensive or intensive margins
Using data from Houston, Texas – wherewe have both officer-involved shootings and a randomly chosen set of potential interactions withpolice where lethal force may have been justified – we find, in the raw data, that blacks are 23.8percent less likely to be shot at by police relative to whites. Hispanics are 8.5 percent less likely
Partitioningthe data in myriad ways, we find no evidence of racial discrimination in officer-involved shootings.

we argue that the results are most consistent with, but in no way proof of, tastebased discrimination among police officers who face convex costs of excessive use of force. Yet, thedata does more to provide a more compelling case that there is no discrimination in officer-involvedshootings than it does to illuminate the reasons behind racial differences in non-lethal uses of force.

Your source found no evidence of racial bias in shootings but did say in the abstract that...

""On non-lethal uses of force,blacks and Hispanics are more than fifty percent more likely to experience some form of forcein interactions with police. Adding controls that account for important context and civilian behavior reduces, but cannot fully explain, these disparities.""

Also, you pointed to one study, I pointed to a meta analysis of 42 studies. Remember a meta analysis serves to find a consensus amognst academics and their research, so a broad analysis of the data sides with me, this is no doubt an outlier study.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
Firstly, is statistical fear the fear an officer feels when encountering African Americans because African Americans are more likely to commit crime? That is what I interpret it as. But anyway, this stills proves racism, if an officer is in 2 identical situations with the exception being that the criminal is black instead of white, then him choosing to shoot one but not the other is still racist. Officers ought to use force based on the actions of the criminal in that situation, not the broad statistics of that person's race.

Moreover, the reason why African Americans commit more crime does date back to racism as well.
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If left wing economics are bad, why are blue states the economic powerhouses?
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@Nemiroff
But overall. The left package is clearly better based on results. 
I think I agree with this, depends on how left and right are being defined.
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Rent Controls
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@Marko
I acknowledge that much of my data relies on correlational data and estimates, but this is merely because isolating for specific variables(rent control in this case) is very difficult. As a result, correlational data is to be relied upon.

I couldn’t quite understand the reason for the link regarding the 30,000 apartments lost in New York every year, or the credentials of a man called ‘William Tucker’. However, what I did observe was that.....’Although hard statistics on abandonments are not available, William Tucker estimates that about 30,000 New York apartments were abandoned annually from 1972 to 1982’. 
So where does this 30,000 figure come from? Additionally, and let’s suspend disbelief and assume his estimations are accurate, this still doesn’t prove that ‘abandonments’ are the result of rent controls. A myriad of other factors might be at play here. 

Estimates from an economist are better than nothing). Also, that link was there to show the outcomes of the rent control policies passed in NY, although the true numbers aren't known, I have previously linked to sources demonstrating rent controls negative impact on housings supply, quality, and affordability.

Rent controls have to be moulded and designed for a given environment, to meet the needs and demands of a specific environment. It certainly can’t be a case of one size fits all, and continuous tweaking and evolving should take place. 
Okay, I agree, it just seems like almost every time these policies are tried they have a net negative impact on the area. Sure these policies can maybe work with tweaking, but that's not the discussion at hand, if a policy fails continuously and economists tweaking them still leads to negative outcomes, I would abstain from implementing them all together.

At least, contrary to many economists, you’re not entirely sure whether applying the free market system to the rental sector would work. But in actual reality, economists are also in favour of tax benefits, incentives and subsidies for the real estate sector, which really doesn’t sound like the magical ‘laissez faire, free market’ solution. For them it’s a case of increased deregulation of prices while also lobbying for increased subsidies and tax incentives for owners. 
I think a blind trust in the free market is silly, I do not support a complete free market in housing.


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If left wing economics are bad, why are blue states the economic powerhouses?
Could this not just be because they appeal to the states with the big cities?
(BTW I like a lot of left wing economic policies, I think progressive tax brackets and immigration are good for example. My main problem is when they support universally despised policies like rent control or the Bernie Sanders wing arguing against free trade.)
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Best Video Games
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@User_2006
I made this before your worst game thread.
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@User_2006
Why do I feel like if I and Trent meet, we will be literally best friends that could engineer a model rocket in a month?

sorry dude, stuck in Guantanamo bay, feels bad man.
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DART Unofficial MEEP/Opinion Poll
1. Yes
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Best DART Debaters- Ranked
I think I'm a little over rated.
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How do you Justify the Consumption of Meat
I eat meat, what do you guys have to say.
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Whiteflame Interview by Virtuoso
Just finished!  I certainly am not equipped to fully comprehend the contents of the discussion in full, but I did enjoy listening to it.
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@RationalMadman
I like it.
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