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@JoeBob
Assuming no interference, any action that player did will be redirected to me
I have a hard time understanding what this means. So If I track earth, it means I really would have tracked you?
Why would you even target me, but more importantly, am I even understanding this correctly?
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Guys I think I will stick around until the endgame but after that I might be done.
I literally just had 2 retards here ask me for a Citation for me saying people with a stake in the future care more about the future than those without a stake in the future.
This place is getting too retarded even for me
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@Earth
My report just said that nobody was visited. It didn't give me a name but if it was redirected to Joebob it should say he visited me or that I was visited.
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God you are a retard for needing a study to prove those with a stake in the future care more about the future than those without a stake in the future
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@Best.Korea
Yes here is a study that showed married women with children care more about the future than single women without children
Oh my God I just guessed but how could I guess correctly that people with a stake in the future care more about the future than those with no stake in the future. Surprised Pikachu face
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If you guys think the common sense statement that people that are invested In the future care more about the future is wrong than please sterilize yourself because IQ has a genetic component
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@Best.Korea
Usually when people say "its common sense", it just means they cant prove it lol
No it means you would have to be a retard to disagree. It's like asking to prove that when you flip a light switch a light usually comes on
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@HistoryBuff
How would you know that? He is a big backer of project 2025
Citation needed and some left-wing media source does not cut it. Actually find a clip of him saying it.
common sense doesn't mean it actually makes sense. Most people don't think long time horizon whether they have children or not. Having children doesn't change that.
Okay so we are talking in generalities here. In general you will find more people with children that care what the world will look like after they are dead than people who will not even exist in that world or have children 100 years from now.
well, you support republican policies which are all about gutting the middle class.
Wrong, the economic freedom index which tracks how republican a countries economic policies are, finds a direct correlation between economic freedom and quality of life.
I would suggest you go to mises.org to learn about economics or just consider shit like when you have more people to jobs or when you push out over regulation or when you have high taxes on companies than you get the same exact results you always get when that happens. It is bad for industry.
So you would seem like a perfect example of how parents don't actually know what would be good for their children.
I am literally trying to prevent my kids from living in the economic interventionist states that have the same policies you support such as Venezuela, North Korea, South Africa or Nazi Germany.
this doesn't even make sense.
It doesn't make sense that people vote democrat for free shit, at the expense of the future and even at the expense of the economy where if we rejected welfare people would not need it because of how prosperous society would be.
So why do you oppose prosperity, reduced poverty and support cutting the dicks off of children?
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It doesn't even matter if she has no attraction for him, because at the end of the day she is going to be sucking that fat orange cock. Haters gonna hate.
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@JoeBob
That does not make me feel any better about him and remember that Robert Downey jr. did black face
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@HistoryBuff
he is fully on board with project 2025
This is how I know you are a partisan hack. He most certainly is not going to ban porn should trump die and he takes over. Nor does he want to genocide women or would have people vote for their children.
It's also common sense that if you have no children, there is no reason to think in a long time horizon. For example I have kids, so the policies I support I have to be concerned about their impact 100 years down the road, meanwhile cat ladies can focus on what types of free gibs they can get in the short term.
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@HistoryBuff
You do know that no matter who Trump picked the media was just going to lie and say a bunch of retarded shit about them. This guy basically said in a speech that having a kid gives you a different perspective in life and the leftist media lied and Said he claims that single people should not have the right to vote.
If Trump picked Obama these retards would say.
"OBAMA is a right-wing maniac too dangerous to be VP. He was literally drone attacking foreign civilians and weaponized the justice department to go after whistleblowers. He also is anti woman, which is why he married a man"
It's absurd dude
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@Sidewalker
I guess the Trump campaign is also "obsessed with spreading California’s dangerously liberal agenda" LOL.
Go it, go live on skidrow and see how safe blue areas are. Thats what you are looking to bring on a national scale instead of keeping it in California. Part of me hopes you guys succeed, so you have to live in a 3rd world shithole that America will become. I get the feeling you are so retarded though, that even when those evil policies effect you on a personal level, you would still stupidly reason that the leftist policies did not go far enough and that is why America is now Venezuela
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Pence is a shit debater and he easily dismantled Harris. AOC in 5 minutes destroyed her, but yes the man who goes into enemy territory daily, the man who has martyred himself in the courts and the man who shakes his fists after being shot. The man who could be on the beach sipping martinis and fucking multiple Russian models simultaneously but gave up that life to save his country, knowing going up against the deepstate could get him killed or in prison. That man is a coward.
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@Greyparrot
Wow man. I am definitely not voting her now
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@whiteflame
This isn't exactly an investigative role and maybe I will just claim it soon anyway. Usually the way I use roles is more to clear suspicious people than to catch scum. The reason being is that you will probably miss scum anyway so anyone who is null or town read by you, but is widely scum read by others is a liability and a distraction so clearing them is beneficial.
I can't exactly clear earth, but I will say that he should be on the back burner for now. I believe if he was scum, given his suspicion level and getting to L1, he would have probably carried out the NK.
Fuck it I am probably dead tonight anyway, unless my reads are way off so I will claim.
I am a tracker and Earth did not go anywhere. Meaning he is most likely town in my opinion.
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@Greyparrot
I have won every bet so far except the one on Kamala dropping out. If Kamala stays in, they will have to find a way to remove both Trump and Musk and/or start a nuclear war using Iran as a proxy.
The deep state has been wanting to invade Iran for a while. I think Trump does see some conspiracy there but underestimates it and could fall for it. They are desperately trying to attach the assassin attempt to Iran to get Trump fired up about that situation as well.
There is a difference between what is released publicly and the NSA briefings that Trump us still a part of, and I have no doubt the briefings are tailored to make it look like Iran definitely got close to killing him, meanwhile distracting him from the fact the government saw it coming and left him unprotected. A similar situation to the government allowing the Pearl Harbor attack which was easily avoidable.
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@Lunatic
What does you visiting earth have to do with me gut reading you?
I thought you were piggy backing on whiteflames logic that nobody in town would visit earth a person who was almost lynched last DP and was indicating your gut was saying I visited him
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@whiteflame
So despite your apparently not scumreading Earth based on the last DP, you chose to visit him anyway. Why?
You don't even know what my role is and I am going to need lunatic to really give a good reason to town read you right now.
Earth's lynch fell apart due to people not wanting to commit to him, and perhaps that is my fault for wanting joebob lynched so badly.
All this speculation about why somebody visited a player who got to L1 and who was at L2 with just hours remaining in the dp is antitown or scummy.
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@Greyparrot
I thought about making a bet myself. I knew she would drop him the second it became public, just to avoid looking incompetent like she has loose lips.
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@Greyparrot
Please tell me where I can bet on the Olympics. Female boxing specifically.
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I think this post and my response to whiteflame made it pretty obvious, but you guys have thick skulls apparently.
My hints may fly over the head of noob scum but apparently that's not good enough
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/11561-heroic-heroes-mafia-dp2?page=1&post_number=12
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@Lunatic
I might as well out it, because it was me. I have been hinting at it, even in my first response to earth. I obviously visited earth but since you guys are too autistic to read between the lines, apparently I have to directly state it.
Now let's lynch joebob and then you can explain exactly why you think whiteflame is town next dp
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@Sidewalker
I think Fetterman tanked it, along with some other Philadelphia politicians.
I don’t know anything about Walz, so looking forward to learning
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Also I legit forgot savant was even playing. He just needs to possibly full claim if he is going to fly this far under the radar
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It is my birthday today. Whiteflame can confirm since we are friends on Facebook and also happens to agree with all of my political views.
Yes, even that political view that just popped into your head.
Anyway, since it is my birthday. I declare who we should lynch today, and I want no resistance.
I say let's go with joebob and we'll see where whiteflame stands tomorrow.
unvote vtl joebob
also town list
Lunatic
Earth
Wylted
Neutral
Savant
Austin
Owen
Scum
Joebob
Whiteflame
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@Swagnarok
I just realized I listen to Sargon's podcast occasionally.
I googled him to figure out who he was and sites keep saying he is a right winger against women's rights. The media is such liars. I maybe listened to 5 of his shows, he does not come across as hateful at all.
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I hope some extreme right winger figure does come to power some day, because these journalists, deserve what is coming.
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@whiteflame
why are you using that as an apparent excuse for not asking a basic question about who visited him and why? Not every visiting role is an informational one - Casey’s flip makes that abundantly clear - so why are you just assuming that any claim to have visited Earth is inherently negative utility?
Let's think about this for a minute. Why would any role, scum or town visit a widely scum read player or at least one in somebody's scum pool?
You said a person not admitting to visiting him was scum. It sounds like trying to set up a mislynch. Why would I scum read somebody if they came out on dp3 and give a list of their actions and one was they investigated earth on dp 1 or they tracked him or they jailkept Jim hoping to block an NK or any of 100 different things?
If he can confirm the person visiting him is town, than I see no issue with the person outting, other than that, I don't see any motive for outting.
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@Double_R
This really goes to show how sycophantic the political right is. When Fox news is too hard on Trump...
Nice try, but you can watch the debates hosted on fox in 2016 to see how antagonistic they were towards him. He isn’t liked by the elites who ruined this country on either side of the aisle
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@Swagnarok
I appreciate that breakdown itnis helpful and much more even handed than any of the random articles I clicked on yesterday.
I suspect the kid is Muslim. There keeps being references to church with no mention of the name of the church or religion it is associated with. There is also no pictures from after he is 11. Not that it matters. This was obviously the straw that broke the camels back so it doesn't deligitimize the things the protestors are protesting.
I also appreciate you mentioning the Muslims and the artifacts. I have read reports that cops are disarming whites but the Muslim groups coming in as counter protestors are allowed to openly walk around with swords. So I suspect there is a lot of stabbings just going unreported, and if Twitter is any indication of reality than the original stabbing was cheered on by many Muslims.
I think one of the issues as well, is that immediately following the attack the killed and injured so many children, that before these kids were buried , the media was talking about how innocent the Muslim community is, and people protesting their belief system were wrong for protesting it. This is prior to the rioting.
The reports are from an anonymous image board but my guess is thay this is not too far from reality, since it mirrors what I see so much in the west.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
I don't mind watching the videos. Maybe it will actually get some people to come to the site. You probably shouldn't upload 50 hours of debating bestiality though
I won't. It doesn't seem to be getting the same results as the UK riot video with got about 10 views within 30 seconds of uploading. I also marked the videos addressing you as adult only content which limits the audience.
I might respond to some of this but it Will be more generalized, such as how I get to there being some sort of transcendental truth, or why liberty as an intrinsic good is wrong.
These videos I believe the only person who watched them was literally you, not that somebody won't run across them later, but it will be few and far between.
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@SocraticGregarian96
Hey Wylted, you just called yourself on a separate forum a proud beta and clowned on Trump for being an alpha, do you know the definition of those words exactly? And why do you hate Trump. I DARE YOU, OR ANYONE ELSE, TO REBUT THE POINTS THAT GREYPARROT MADE.
Greyparrot laid out a plan for a propaganda campaign. I don't think propaganda is good, which is why I only look at unbiased news sources like salon, CNN and PBS
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@Greyparrot
He'll yeah, that might be my new profile pic
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Could whiteflame and joebob be scum buddies. I wonder if that's why we couldn't get the lynch across?
Now he is asking for a visiting role to out themselves, one highly likely to be investigative given the fact earth was one of the wagons last dp, while completely discounting g that Casey could have visited earth as well.
We can assume whiteflame himself did not visit by asking others to claim if they visited, so it assumes he is operating under the assumption thay Earth must be, being honest in this situation.
VTL whiteflame
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Could whiteflame and joebob be scum buddies. I wonder if that's why we couldn't get the lynch across?
Now he is asking for a visiting role to out themselves, one highly likely to be investigative given the fact earth was one of the wagons last dp, while completely discounting g that Casey could have visited earth as well.
We can assume whiteflame himself did not visit by asking others to claim if they visited, so it assumes he is operating under the assumption thay Earth must be, being honest in this situation.
VTL whiteflame
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unvote
something else caught my attention, but I am not dealing with it tonight.
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He will not divide us.
#orangemanbad
#fatpeoplearefat
#proudbeta
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@whiteflame
Two, Earth says someone visited them. I don’t want to speculate on the role he used to determine that, but whoever did visit him should also out themselves at this point, otherwise we’ll assume scum did it.
I don't see any reason to out who did this. Presumably like half of us can visit and there was a train on earth last dp, so if Earth was visited there is a significant chance it was an investigative role.
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@Earth
know someone visited me.
I assume they have a good reason to.
Do you know how many people or only that you were visited?
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VTL joebob
nothing has changed unless there are some sort of reports to give
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Reported for posting gore
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@Greyparrot
You challenged me to make a move and if I understand the mission, here you go
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I can't help but to agree with Kamala's latest speech
We are convinced that the restoration to health of our people must start from the restoration to health of the body politic itself, and we are persuaded of the truth that the future of our people, as in the past so now, lies first of all in the American immigrant. If he perishes, our end has come; if he survives, then America will never go under. There lie the strength and the source of our people's life, the source of our renewal. The towns would not exist at all, if the immigrant did not fill them with his blood. The dweller in our countryside may be primitive, but he is healthy.
Our wish is that responsible folk should once more be brought together so that every class and every individual should be given that authority over those below and that responsibility towards those above which are essential if one is to build up the life of a community. We do not want so to educate the nation that it lives for ideas and artificial constructions; we want to test all ideas and constructions to discover how far they are capable of serving the nation's life.
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Politics is nothing else and can be nothing else than the safeguarding of a people's vital interests and the practical waging of its life-battle with every means. Thus it is quite clear that this life-battle from the first has its starting-point in the people itself and that at the same time the people is the object - the real thing of value - which has to be preserved. All functions of this body formed by the people must in the last resort fulfill only one purpose - to secure in the future the maintenance of this body which is the people. I can therefore say neither that foreign policy nor economic policy is of primary significance. Of course, a people needs the business world in order to live. But business is but one of the functions of this body-politic whereby its existence is assured. But primarily the essential thing is the starting-point and that is the people itself.
Donald Trump will in practice lead to the destruction of a people's true values. And this also serves to explain how it is that peoples with a great past from the time when they surrender themselves to the unlimited, MAGA rule of the masses slowly lose their former position; for the outstanding achievements of individuals which they still possess or which could be produced in all spheres of life are now rendered practically ineffective through the oppression of mere numbers. And thus in these conditions a people will gradually lose its importance not merely in the cultural and economic spheres but altogether; in a comparatively short time it will no longer, within the setting of the other peoples of the world, maintain its former value.
The conception of pacifism is logical if I once admit a general equality amongst peoples and human beings. For in that case what sense is there in conflict? The conception of pacifism translated into practice and applied to all spheres must gradually lead to the destruction of the competitive instinct, to the destruction of the ambition for outstanding achievement.
I must above all recognize that it is not the primary of foreign politics which can determine our action in the domestic sphere, rather, the character of our action in the domestic sphere is decisive for the character of the success of our foreign policy - nay more - it must determine the success of all the aims which, we set before.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
You cappen that shit is ohio skibidi
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Ross humor wrong think. Ross need silenced
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So me and Rational Madman were discussing what's going on in the UK, and I just assumed that the "rioters" were just your average boomer conservative who thinks their country needs secure borders. Here is my video response to him, after he dropped out of the conversation.
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