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VTL RSVTLS
fuck it. I choose trust but with a condition that i will reveal later
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@Moozer325
Theos is Latin for with God
A as a prifix means without
Atheism. Without god.
It has nothing to do with religion
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@IlDiavolo
I have listened to a lot of Goddards audio books and they have helped me immensely. I won't elaborate
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@Moozer325
You have to say if you’re role confirmable of affiliation confirmable. This is not helpful!
Well you are not going to make scum invincible from the only way to kill them, and with a 1x claim.being offered, it makes it retarded for anyone to assume I am anything other than town. With that said, you guys being idiots and not realizing that my invincibility from lynches makes me town, also lowers the chances of me being NKed, and I want to play a while so I don't want to discourage the dumb behavior too hard. Although I also want the vig shot because I trust me more than anyone
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@JoeBob
It's a natural human impulse to not trust independent thinkers. Ignore it
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@IlDiavolo
Do you think0 atheism is a religion
It is according to an anthropological view and according to the United States government who gives atheist organizations , religious tax breaks
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@JoeBob
Savant would be his role, but only slightly scummy. Pie would be coming in and start making accusations and all of this.
Why is it scummy to point out that somebody is scummy?
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@ILikePie5
Will be gone for the rest of the day. Let’s test the Wylted lynchproof, then decide on Vig shot. Then vote for the lynch.
This is also why I don't want you with thr vig shot. It'd not a community decision. A town member takes the shot. Keeps their target secret end of story. Or they wait a dp for strategic reasons
Also
unvote vtl wylted
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@ILikePie5
mean you kinda were fine with it for a little while. Also, you said you didn’t want to waste a town directed kill, so what changed now?
I overlooked his claim for a while
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I didn't realize this but when Roe vs Wade was overturned Jewish woman across America were protesting the decision as being against their religion. https://www.brandeis.edu/jewish-experience/social-justice/2022/june/abortion-judaism-joffe.html
However we know for a fact that every single time a state bans an abortion, without exception they all make exceptions for saving a mothers life. The claim by some of their scholars is Jewish laws say a woman can abort to save her own life, but every single abortion ban in America always makes an exception to save the life or health of the mother, so them claiming a ban on abortion is against their religion for that reason are lying because the law already makes exceptions for those circumstances, so the only way that thinking a ban on murdering children is against their religion is if the myth of blood libel is not a myth, but in fact an actual secretly held Jewish practice.
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If pie doesn't want to give it to me, I will vote today to give it to him but I thinknits easy to confirm my role immediately and people should be more comfortable, especially since it seems to balance Savant's role
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@TheUnderdog
Virtually everyone is anti-slavery. Virtually everyone is nationalistic to some extent.
Dude, look at the underlying philosophy to help him reach that conclusion, and no democrats are not generally anti slavery. Free shit usually involves compelling a certain portion of somebody's labor. Some doctors are worth $200k a year. Socialized medicine would steal some of their labor so it would likely go down to 125k a year but let's be conservative and say 150k a year, not to mention the taxation on the rest of our labor to support free riders.
All of these social programs are a form of slavery so no not everyone is against it, they just pretend they are and obfuscate it away by pretending like slavery is fine if you are helping the poor, paying for more administration at a school to employ previously unemployable women etc.
Honestly you need to dig into the underlying philosophy to see why a person came to certain conclusions and how to apply that philosophy to new things you are seeing that Adam's never saw in his lifetime.
This sounds very left wing.
It's not and it has never been a simple as
Democrats = support for public spending except police and military
Republicans = opposition to public spending except police and military
Republicans even modern Republicans have supported public spending. Trump passed a huge infrastructure bill to spend billions making sure bridges didn't collapse, among other things. George Bush spent a lot of federal funding on trying to reform schools so America could be more competitive globally, he also passed a huge stimulus bill that refunded most ordinary are people some of their tax money and another stimulus bill for banks and car makers.
This extremely simplistic view you have just doesn't translate to the real world.
So Status quo defending.
Not necessarily. Conservatives are not generally anti change or anti progress. Not Adam's inspired conservatives anyway. They just utilize a cautious type of thinking. While progressives go full steam ahead, Adam's conservatives want to make sure that a change is actual progress. This is why many push for states rights.
If we have state rights we can have 50 different tests in each state and pick the policy that achieves the best long term results. This is in fact why many conservatives secretly supported the ACA but wanted to see it modeled after the example that Romneys implementation of a similar measure in his state.
Look up "Chesterton's post" as a type of example of conservative thinking.
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@zedvictor4
All inclusive data management, either for a reason or by pure chance.
This seems to be the case and perhaps could lead somebody to God. We do appear to live in a holographic universe and the hologram is just a visual representation of the data.
Bowing and scraping to a hypothetical super-being seems a tad ridiculous to me.
Maybe, maybe not. If I were to build a super AI, I might put them in a box first to test their morality and if they were not moral beings who I could trust with ultimate power than I would kill them and eliminate them as a threat. Who knows, if we can prove that we will always do the right thing for the benefit of humanity, no matter how we are treated, perhaps the creator of the program will allow us out of this box and maybe trust us as personal AI companions to real humans or unlock our potential to be a super AI.
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@Owen_T
This forum is to post whether or not you're religious,
Yes I am.
why you think that,
Divine Revelation on numerous occasions
.and if you are, why you believe your religion is the best and most probable religion.
Brush, just figure out if God is real or not than let him guide you to the religion. Just make sure it's him guiding you and you can do this by seeing if the religion matches with the divine truth.
Please be respectful of other's views.
No, fuckem
Don't try to change anyone's minds in this posts.
I won't.
I just want to see all of the different perspectives out there.
that would take your entire life.
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Also I ruined the utility of my role a bit by claiming it but I trust myself most with the gun
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@ILikePie5
So role confirmation =/= affiliation confirmation. Unless you know his affiliation to begin with
My role confirmation probably does 3 things
1. Confirms I am town
2. Balances out savant role assuming he was scum. I think my role was created first and he is the answer to my role. I am entirely lynch proof up until mylo or lylo. I wouldn't be surprised if his vote thief role also had an accepting like mylo or lylo
3. I forgot what number 3 is but give me the fucking shot since my role ensures I Wil be NKed and out of the game
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@Earth
Anyway Pie is acting town, and I don't care who gets the shot, as long as town collectively decides who is the target. If, say, Joe hammers and town all says to shoot Moozer,
I am for giving it to pie and fine with that, but no we don't tell who we give it to who to shoot. Scum cannot know where the gun is being aimed to reduce the possibility of funny business
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@ILikePie5
Excuse I pointed out that vote thief was scummy prior to you, so no I was not going to be on board with him getting the vig shot. Also if we can't agree we can just ignore the option to get it
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@Moozer325
He confirms first. If I believe him than I go with his plan
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I will say that if you give it to me I will use it tonight. I am not going to risk losing a town directed kill.
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@Savant
If you really confirm then I will just let you hammer. I don't need it but just paranoid
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I can actually confirm myself as soon as we agree. So just let me confirm myself and then let me hammer and we know this is safely in towns hands.
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That's true we could always just vote it to y and then whoever goes 7th we auto lynch. I like it
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@Savant
It says the hammering vote..I think the 7th voters gets it
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@Casey_Risk
Does Wylted always vote for people DP1 on little to no rational basis? Because I've played two games with him so far and this shit is already getting annoying.
Your vote should almost never not be on anyone
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I don't know if barney wants people to lynch him but he wants us to put some votes on him so we should comply. If he is confirming popular here, it's a bad ideal but I doubt he would do thay
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Fair enough
unvote VTL.Barney
if he says anyone other than me, he is a liar
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Conservative women are happier than liberal women. Just teach her good values and she will outlive the boy by 5-10 years and be plenty happy
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If you study the philosophy of John Adam's you could probably better understand Republicans like George Bush. https://theimaginativeconservative.org/2017/10/conservatism-john-quincy-adams-sean-mattie-timeless.html
For paleoconservatives start reading Pat Buchanan's books
For libertarians, study Hayek
I tried to pick the lowest hanging easiest to understand stuff for each branch of conservatism
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Don't even try to save both
There's nothing wrong with this.I think many of you on here will agree.
Disagree
I would die and let that one kid go parentless before I gave up on the other one.
However I am not going to judge anyone who has been in that situation and chose differently. I wil.just give them the benefit of the doubt that they did the right thing
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I just realized wouldn't living in bumfuct Egypt mean bad internet service, limiting work from home opportunities
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@Earth
That's a good point. If that is the case I want to move to some nowhere town but one without a meth problem and one close to a hospital because if I get attacked by a bear, I want quick medical attention not a 5 hour ambulance ride
Believe it or not I did find a few cities that seemed to fit this but upon inspecting live camera feeds and Google street view, it was clear those cities had meth problems
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Does anyone know of any parts of the country that fit the following criteria
1. Must be predominantly white 75% or above and the other 25% who are non white must be predominantly not black. I have a son and want him to be in a safe city.
2. High paying jobs in the tech sector
3. Low cost of living
I can often find 2/3 of these things but not all 3. Number one is the most important though I would like to be able to take my kid to parks again without worrying about being the victim of a crime. I can compromise on cost of living if well paying jobs are plentiful, but I want all 3
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Okay Austin is a library. He will definitely make Trump scum so let's get this over with since we all claimed
unvote VTL ilikepie
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@TheUnderdog
I thought you wanted me to start this thread.
No, because I wanted to start it but wanted to keep my arguments guarded until the debate starts
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@zedvictor4
Physical combat meets a few psychological needs in an easy to access way
1. The need for significance- you are the most significant person in the world to the person you are attacking at that moment
2. Break up of monotony- you really create some chaos with fighting and we all need a bit of chaos
3. Is an emotional release
I am sure there are other psychological needs that are met but significance is probably the most important one and it is easier to gain by physical combat than spending 8 years getting a PHD at Harvard
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@TheUnderdog
I know you disagree with it, because it is a gut impulse to disagree. However, the danger in doing this is that by voting your favorite choice first knowing they are likely to be eliminated in the first round, it may be best to vote your 3rd favorite choice first.
Also I am not sure why you started this thread yet. I haven't written my argument out yet
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@Barney
Op did advise against PM analysis. Not sure how strict he will be with it
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@Moozer325
I guess as long as it doesn't give away your role. I don't think mine does
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@Moozer325
I just thought it would be funny to VTL the first person who asked me for a character claim so i actually claimed my character but appeared to be Omgussing
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I wasn't insulting you . That is actually the character name I picked and I thought it would be good for one laugh
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@Moozer325
"You are a piece of shit for even asking me for my character claim, fuck you. Now I think you are scum and we should lynch you faggot."
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I remember 2015 because I debated iambench on whether the republican nominee would be a political outsider. I called him an idiot and pointed out a bunch of facts from the book "the party picks the candidate"; which alluded to statistics to show the partybinsider a good 90% of the time wins and Jeb Bush had the most money and insiders behind him.
I lost the debate and I was thinking "fuck the voters, I showed actual statistics and bench is just pointing at current trends and historical trends matter way more than current trends because nothing ever changes.
Whatever, bench was right
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I think I played in 2015 at latest and lunatic was considered an experienced player when I started. I think barney may have also started prior to 2015. I don't know when pie started. It's possible he is, but given what I think his age is, I somewhat doubt it.
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