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@AustinL0926
I buy Barney's roleclaim. Based on my role and justification, it seemed obvious there was at least one protective role in the game.
Earth seems like that protective role tbh
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@Barney
I protected whiteflame the first night, and Austin last night. Obviously no one tried to kill either of them.
Your protection of Austin should hacmve failed if he is ascetic
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@whiteflame
still think Vader is the obvious lynch for this DP. I gave a great deal of reasoning for that last DP, and given the result
I don't see the harm in waiting one more dp. The scum team eliminated earth narrowing the scum pool and may fuck up and narrow the scum pool again.
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@Vader
Holy terrible grammar, this dayphase it is imperative that we VTNL as if we mislynch we lose
Agreed. I also agree that the scum team is either you and Austin or Austin and Ragnar so I think an Austin lynch next dp I'd the best option
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@Vader
Wylted is a tough read. He's sort of jumped on wagons constantly throughout this game, but he hasn't acted out of the ordinary to make me read him as scum, but his involvement in the two lynches makes me suspect of him
Grey parrot lynch wasn't a mistake. He was TP.
The plan was to lynchbhim and no lynch today to maximize our chances of hitting scum
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@whiteflame
I have no dream to report. Reading now.
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@Greyparrot
Well then he gave this salesman pitch that said no insurer worth anything would sell a "bare minimum policy" as it would be "too risky" for them. He then gave me one quote for 850 and then another quote for 2200. I walked out and got in contact with the receiver of my old policy file
I never did anything with it but I got licensed to sell insurance. Despite it being commission based it is not legal in most states for then to attempt to sell you a policy that you don't want. They are supposed to only answer your questions and if you ask for the bare minimum they are required by law to STFU and give you what you asked for. You should report that asshole to the appropriate party in your state.
I remember that is what turned me off about it. It is a sales position where you are not allowed to sell. You can't talk bad about the competition. By law, you can't upset by law. You can't talk somebody out of a cheap policy by law. You just STFU and pass on your knowledge to the best of your ability and in am unbiased way.
I really don't get this idea that Government regulations do not equate to a loss of choices for the working consumer. (loss of freedom)
I think double r is a pleb and doesn't know this but I was a Democrat at one point and not a pleb.. The regulations are intended to drive out small business because the government has a harder time controlling 1000 small businesses than they do just 2 or 3 mega corporations in an industry. They won't argue this publicly but the socialist intelligentsia is against small business due to them being harder to control
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@Best.Korea
Okay well I guess people can read your statement that hamas is too incompetent to keep a population from evacuating main roads and mine on how it takes less than 5 people to set up a roadblock and let the people see what seems more reasonable to them
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If USA cannot prevent people entering it during peace,
Why would the USA prevent people from entering Gaza?
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@Best.Korea
Please address the part where you claimed Hamas was too incompetent to have 5 people set up a road block
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@Best.Korea
I am not sure what you are talking about. And am not sure why you think it's hard to have 5 guys set up a roadblock.
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@Double_R
Correct, the party lead by Manhattan real estate billionaire whose only accomplishments in office were a major tax break for the rich and deregulation of businesses that allowed large corporations to get away with murder is definitely the party of the rich.
I could actually afford to go out to eat occasionally when he was in office now My income has increased significantly and I struggle to pay bills. Be honest. You are a rich kid which is why you are okay with all the suffering under Biden and don't want to see trump make America affordable like he did last time?
I noticed how you focus on tax cuts instead of quality of living. Who gives a fuck about cuts. How would a billionairepaying less taxes hurt me?
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@Double_R
You started this thread on the basis that the people in Congress are wildly unqualified to have any say in what goes on in the tech industry, now you're suggesting they be the ones who decide on each and every individual regulation?
I suggest we elect tech literate people so that way they are qualified.
Voters never had the power to vote on every individual regulation and for good reason, that is a job best left up to experts in the feild.
Yes we have and no we shouldn't be slaves to technocrats there needs to be a democratic process and oversights. Prior to the 1920s regulatory agencies didn't even exist and things were fine.
Then we need to tighten up the screws on what goes on in these agencies. That means more Congressional oversight and DOJ involvement, so defunding the FBI is probably not the best idea here.
Tightening screws created that sort of corruption but yes go ahead and keep doing the same thing over and over again and see if you get different results.
There will always be corruption wherever there is power, that is not an excuse to stop regulating industries that need to be regulated.
Exactly and so your solution is to give the government more power? You admit giving them more power makes them more corrupt so why do you want regulatory agencies capturing more power for fewer people is good?
Why not put the power in the hands of the people instead of the technocrats elite and billionaires?
The constitution gives lawmakers the power to make laws, and they did that here. This case is already before the SC so we'll see what happens there
Oh the only ones who rule correctly are the originalist and they don't exist any.ore so regulatory creep will continue. Besides I have literally seen a few rulings from the Supreme Court where they basically admit they are wrong and justify it by clai
ming something like and you can google this "the bill of rights is not a suicide pact". So essentially saying they will set aside the bill of rights and put the continued existence of the union over constitutional rights.
This is just plain stupid. The entire point of regulations is to protect consumers from harmful or predatory business practices.
Well I showed you the corruption involved and how it achieves the opposite.
If you generally oppose regulations then you are the one promoting the same agenda as the large corporations, that would if anything make you the shill
Actually as I have explained in other threads, regulations are often made for the sole purpose of crushing small businesses that can't afford to comply for the purpose of monopolizing industry. There is a reason why Open AIs founder asked for regulation immediately and why Sam Backman fried was working so closely with regulators. It was so they could establish legal monopolies in new industries.
Also check out these facts that disprove you
1. Prior to the FDA Americans got most of their food supply from local businesses. Now most can be traced back to a handful of corporations
2. Prior to heavy banking regulations, 80% of banking was done with small mom and pop banks. Now nearly all banking is done with billion dollar corporations.
3. Local regulators were used to help form regional monopolies of utility companies
You can't call me a corporate shil while actually having the exact same political positions as Target, Disney, Amazon etc and pushing for regulatory agencies meant to kill market competition.
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Maybe I have to buy his book to learn this but he had a section in one of his books titled
Why philosophers should not serve on juries
I would love to read that section. It was on the book about vegetarianism.
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Here is a list of his favorite bible verses
Leviticus 20:9If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death.20:10 If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.20:13 If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death.Deuteronomy 22:20-1 If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the girl’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done a disgraceful thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house.Exodus 35:2For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death.On Destroying Other PeopleDeuteronomy 7:1-2 When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations . . . then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy.20:10-17 When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. . . . This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby.However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you.On the Evil of Biblical LawEzekiel 20:25-26 I also gave them over to statutes that were not good and laws they could not live by; I let them become defiled through their gifts—the sacrifice of every firstborn—that I might fill them with horror so they would know that I am the LORD.On Slavery & Subjugation of WomenEphesians 5:22-24 Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.Exodus 21:20-21 If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.1 Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every authority instituted among men.2:18 Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh.Leviticus 25:44-45Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property.Jesus, on His Second ComingMatthew 24:29-34[T]he sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken. . . . They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory. . . . I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. [Emphasis added.]16:27-28For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father’s glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what he has done. I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.Scientific Errors(1) Rabbits don’t chew cud.Deuteronomy 14:6-7You may eat any animal that has a split hoof divided in two and that chews the cud. However, of those that chew the cud or that have a split hoof completely divided you may not eat the camel, the rabbit, or the coney.(2) No insects (including grasshoppers) are 4-legged.Leviticus 11:20-22All flying insects that walk on all fours are to be detestable to you. There are, however, some winged creatures that walk on all fours that you may eat: those that have jointed legs for hopping on the ground. Of these you may eat any kind of locust, katydid, cricket or grasshopper.(3) This is only possible on a flat earth.Matthew 4:8Again the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.(4) pi does not = 3.1 Kings 7:23He made the Sea of cast metal, circular in shape, measuring ten cubits from rim to rim . . . It took a line of thirty cubits to measure around it.(5) The earth moves. It does not have a foundation.Psalms 104:5He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved.Selected Contradictions(1)2 Kings 2:11 As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind.John 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.(2)Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind.Exodus 32:14 Then the Lord relented and did not bring on his people the disaster he had threatened.(3)Ephesians 2:8-9 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith . . . not by works.James 2:14-17 What good is it, my brothers, if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save him? . . . Faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.Revelation 22:12 Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done.(4) (Jesus speaking)Matthew 5:16 Let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your father in heaven.Matthew 6:1 Be careful not to do your ‘acts of righteousness’ before men, to be seen by them.(5) (Jesus speaking)John 14:27 Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you.Matthew 10:34 Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.(6)Genesis 32:30 So Jacob called the place Peniel, saying, “It is because I saw God face to face, and my life was preserved.”Exodus 33:11 The Lord would speak to Moses face to face, as a man speaks with his friend.John 1:18 No one has ever seen God.(7) (Jesus speaking)John 5:31 If I testify about myself, my testimony is not valid.John 8:14 Even if I testify on my own behalf, my testimony is valid.
Does he have any favorite Quran verses he would like to share as well?
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Just downloaded the new dart app. Thanks for the option to do so
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I looked at this guy's birth year and his photos. How the fuck is he so good looking at that age?
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Views on Uncle Ted (kaczynski) being a folk hero?
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Views on Uncle Ted (kaczynski) being a folk hero?
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Regarding immigration. Has the professor looked into the brain drain that occurs by America stealing all of the brightest minds out of 3rd world locations that could really use those minds to lift the countries out of poverty? What about the long term damage to 3rd world countries by accepting the people dissatisfied enough to actually be motivated to end that countries corrupt policies?
What does he think the likelihood of accepting a bunch of people who in general may accept the type of poisonous policies that turned their countries into crap holes?
For example if Javier Milie had immigrated to the United States and many of his supporters he would currently not be in Argentina fixing their society.
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Dr Huemer appears to claim that the chickens I eat don't deserve the pain and suffering it takes to get them to my plate. Is there any reason to assume animals are anything more than philosophical zombies or automatons basically programmed by nature and unable to have any real consciousness?
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Also thanks savant for reaching out to him.
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@Savant
I was basically a minarchist before I ran into an argument such as the one that follows and I wonder how he responds to it.
Basically in am anarchist society people can act in a collective manner if they choose to do so. They can create a community, pass laws that they volunteer to in that community and even elect a mini government and when they pass that land to their kid's have their kid's inherit the same sort of rules unless they turn down that land.
What is the difference between doing that on a micro scale like with a neighborhood and just at a nation state level?
Also how do you deal with private property rights in general? What qualifies as trespassing? Does a neighbor shining a light in your window qualify asbtrespassing because light particles enter your property? And if light particles are considered trespassing how would the anarchist differentiate between an acceptable level and an unacceptable level or if banned altogether than how do you eliminate sound and light from your house entering your neighbors property?
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@Best.Korea
I dont think you understood my argument
Your argument is that it is impossible for them to secure their border to make escape impossible. It seems disingenuous and I believe you know it doesn't take much effort to shut down large roads around major population centers
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@Greyparrot
I am so glad the fucking frog worshippers are destroying those owl worshippers for now.
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@RationalMadman
It would indicate he has more respect for me, but he should be addressing the argumentnot the person and certainly he is being a dick by strawmanning you while giving me slightly better rebuttals.
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@Best.Korea
They have prevented civilians from leaving areas and have intermixed with civilians so they can get sympathy for civilian deaths.
I am not sure what you are getting at about securing their border but perhaps before you send your military in to rape and torture women and children you should make sure your military is strong enough to deal with the necessary response.
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@Best.Korea
You can certainly choose not to house soldiers in hospitals and you can certainly choose not to block exit routes of civilians. All of which i discuss in my video addressing Benjamin's arguments.
J3st3r
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@Double_R
Be honest are you a corporate shill who hates American people or are you just brainwashed by large corporations to support policies that harm Americans but help them?
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@Double_R
What are you talking about? Business regulation =/= a loss of freedom. We have regulations to ensure that businesses are forced to consider and take responsibility for the harm that may come from their business practices.
Not business regulation but putting it in the hand of a regulatory body s opposed to having congress vote on those regulations. It is a loss of political freedom to take away most of th power voters have to choose what regulations do or do not serve them.
You also have the issue that regulatory bodies often are revolving doors where billion dollar corporations and those agencies frequently go from working with those industries to the regulatory agency and back and forth. Which also by the way fucks small businesses over because you know those policies favor large business's.
We also have the fact these regulatory agencies are unconstitutional, unless you can point me to the part of the constitution that gives power to create laws to regulatory agencies.
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@Double_R
I've seen the anecdotes of members of Congress looking stupid because they didn't do their homework and don't understand the basics of how today's technology works. Not sure what your point is. You are acting like these would be the people overseeing the tech sector if the role of government expanded to oversee it.
Regulatory agencies are unethical in general and a way created to circumvent congress to pass unpopular laws. It's debatable whether it's even constitutional.
You are right about one thing, we don't want politicians getting deeply involved in this kind of stuff. That's why we have career experts,
You are talking about a technocracy . It's much better to have competent leadership than to abandon our freedom to be ruled in some technocracy of people who are blind to anything outside of their discipline and who will not balance out regulations with things like freedom.
It's why phrases like "trust the science" are so stupid. The point is to use experts as advisors not to circumvent your duty to legislate competently
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I think I won't leave completely. I will just likely let my debates forfeit. I have to be more low effort though because I am falling behind on a few tasks that take a lot of effort I had previously neglected do to my arrogance making me think the tasks would be easier
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@Savant
They agreed to do an ad for this site on there. I just haven't given them the ad yet because the mods have not approved doing so. Also it is not written in stone because they usually only do ads for different discord servers. We have 1000 users listed or about and so an ad exchange should still be tempting for them
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Don't go anywhere near your family if you are a terrorist. Problem solved or don't be an evil terrorist
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@RationalMadman
You know he didn't really suggest drinking bleach right? I watched that press conference and the statement was taken out of context.
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@Savant
Just curious, as I would want to emulate your approach. Were you able to get a response from any of them? If so, who did you contact and what message did you send?
I have talked to a lot of celebrities. Recently my energy had dipped. I reached out to like 20 before the energy drain got me. I get about a 25% response when contacting people even high profile people, but I only contacted like 20 about debating.
I have some tips but I want to set expectations. You are seeking something from them and my 25% rate is from.asking about things they care about or asking about things pertaining to their reputation.
You do mot want a template message. If they did an interview or wrote an article contact them with a question about the article or interview. Do not ask questions from them that a Google response would secure.
Do not hint around at what you want. So something like.
Dear Peter singer, I saw an article you wrote about it being morally permissible to commit infanticide to a new born if they are handicapped. Some people would love to debate you on this and understand your position better, would you be interested in a text based debate?
My response of 25% I was asking for clarifications on positions etc. A response that takes them 30 seconds to generate. You would be asking for a time commitment.
That means your response rate will likely drop to 5% and the yes answers may be as low as 1%.
You need to send 500 emails to get 5 debaters IMO. Definitely tailor each one to the individual and if the yes falls below 1% than a new tactic is needed or this just isn't possible. A rate above 1% and likely you should start getting into sales as a profession because you have skills
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@Savant
Mostly a mix of journalists who love writing about specific topics, "influencers", and academics with public email addresses who have written books on something they would want to debate. Even many people who have sold a million copies of books are easy to contact because the book is more famous than them.
Maybe looking at some people who seem to do a lot of talks on specific topics like, abortion. I guess you would call them professional activists. I had another ideal that popped into my head if that doesn't work.
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I am in the ideal viewing zone and it was very annoying watching the orange man stare at the sun, and the secret service getting really nervous about letting him go blind and quickly correct him.
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@Savant
I could use your help with the celebrity thing but it has to be more disorganized than I expected. So essentially thy post the debate and whoever responds first gets first dibs.
I also feel like I broke rapport by asking anybody I was in contact with for this like I was some low rate sales person. The success of it depends on how enthusiastic you could be at pursuing it.
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@Double_R
Have you watched any segment of these hearing longer than 20 minutes?
Have you seen Mark Zuckerberg male these people look absolutely retarded and seen the shock I'm his face at their stupid questions?
There are very good criticisms of Facebook that need addressed but instead we get boomers asking tech giants if tik tok can go into the wifi and pull information off of our printers.
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@JoeBob
Well now won’t they think it’s just about debating wars?
Damn it.
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@RationalMadman
I don't recall that. I also think elderly people don't have to be tech illiterate
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@Bones
Given I do not live in the United States, Canada, nor Philippines, my country does not have a HOA, so I have minimal knowledge of what it is besides the fact that its' a government entity. Could you outline the particular issue you have right now?
An HOA is where homeowners come together to form a type of anarcho capitalist organization to self govern many aspects of their own community. It's possibly a good ideal for new home owners who plan to sell at some point becausse HOAs are good at retaining the homes value however they can be a pain in the ass to deal with by self imposed fines for long grass or they can tell you to remove you Gadsen flag or decide how many if any christmas lights you put up etc. Many come together to hire community security have a community clubhouse etc.
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@Best.Korea
Being a founder of a website is something you can put on your resume and you can link to my profile to prove you are a founder. Many doors will be open for you
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@Best.Korea
congrats on winning the contest and welcome to the founders club.
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The new name of debateart.com is now debatewars.org. Best.Japan has won the name contest and now will be listed as one of the official founders of debate wars. We are going to work on building the site out and improving the redirect. Also I will transfer the name over to mike upon request so long as he changes the branding of the website.
first it is debatewars.org and we will expand it out with debatewars.org/blog and debatewars.org/polls etc. but those domain extensions are not ready yet and of course that will be put on the backburner of Mike wants me to transfer the domain to him. Domain masking is not on and it will be unlikely to get turned on in the near future. Now you guys can feel better about promoting the site without confusing people and making them think the site is about debating art exclusively.
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That's a false dichotomy but he is strawmanning so it's fair. My point of the dangers of elected officials being tech illiterate stands.
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@JoeBob
What happened to the name change
I will finish that up today. My bad. I slept most of the day on my first day off.
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@Double_R
government itself is the problem and then elects people to go so Washington to blow it up.
I believe Nazi Germany also thought the solution was more government control. So I mean when given the option between having literally the same beliefs as Hitler or the same beliefs as Thomas Jefferson shouldn't people choose Jefferson?
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If he is scum and not TP than I guess we have more options. Maybe assuming 2 scum.
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