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@FishChaser
Christianity is the least rational of any religion. For example it claims God is his own son and someone different at the same time.
Literally the same claim in hermetically but applies to more people.
You can't justify stoning gays because it "prevents disease" nor can you deny that it was done out of being a bunch of judgmental Christian cunts more than anything. The Bible says that being gay is perverse and sinful, doesn't say anything about it spreading disease
It is no more a sexual orientation than pedophilia.it isn't wrong.
Christians often admit that they would be amoral without God, that morality comes from the authority of God and without God we are "chemical accidents" with no moral value. In other words a Christian is someone with no empathy or in-built sense of morality that derives their morality from an appeal to authority and that authority happens to be an imaginary friend who says that pure evil can be good because he says so but pleasure is bad.
Let's imagine God is evil. It's literally none of your business because ultimately he decides morality not you.
The pleasure is bad principle is also I other philosophies that you ignore. Stoicism and Buddhism for example says that you should try to avoid excessive pleasure becauseit helps you avoid excessive pain.
You can't tell me fucking a bus fool of supermodels wouldn't lead to you thinking normal sex was boring and less fun for your entire life.
Let's get back to objective morality based on God.
We know that morality is objective not subjective so why are moral principles such as "never torture a baby for fun" so universal and who gave us these morals or how did we all coincidentally intuit the same exact moral code?
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It literally won't end this stupid standoff but fuck it.
I am vanilla and undertales. Because th dude in undertales does not finish off the bad guys or his enemies or whatever he doesn't actually ever truly use his powers
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@AustinL0926
If somebody else does an unofficial tentative vote like you I will claim. I will check my phone at 9pm eastern 1130pm and 330 am
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GP is definitely trolling l. He also strawmanned my argument and used it against me.
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@AustinL0926
His reasoning is important an if he did it because I told him to he needs to explain why he town reads me and trusts my judgement
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Let me guess Christianity is against gay sex and that is bad.
Sorry that in a time we're disease was way less treatable that they created laws to prevent disease.
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@FishChaser
Christianity tells you to not steal or lie or fuck your neighbors wife. This seems less retarded than cutting your kids dick off
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@HistoryBuff
"Hulburt said having an inner monologue can make it easier for people to create a sequential plan and solve logical problems, but other ways of thinking have benefits too."
"People who don't have an active inner monologue can teach themselves to, Hulburt said. But he doesn't think it's necessarily a good or bad thing."
I am going to shock you with the next fact.
Scientists are overwhelmingly pussies. This is a group of people who git wedgies in school and was given many a swirly.
This means many of them will in fact choose to say things in a way that reduces their likelihood to offend.
They aren't going to call being a human superior to being an NPC because they don't want to get a swirly.
Thats why people like me are here to explain things to you as a type of interpretor to the needs. Its superior to have inner mobologue.
While it can improve retrieval of facts to not have inner monologue it is literally how somebody who is spon fed ahit thinks. People that will never challenge the status quo . Idiots who will memorize long lists of facts but will never challenge them because of retard shut like
"Just trust establishment be it the political establishment or political one because having the most common belief us the easiest way to be correct"
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@FishChaser
Republicans are the ones more likely to believe in a magic sky fairy who says genocide is good when the Israelites did it but pleasure is bad.
Let's say that the sky fairy is fake. I am not sure that makes open borders and cutting off the penises of 9 year olds any less retarded.
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@Bullish
Alright not to toot my own horn here but the scum team is obviously made up of newbie players, because if they were good they would have killed me instead of whiteflame
I agree lol
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It's not me vs korea. I assumehe will remain the best lynch but I am open to other possibilities
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I am so glad I work tonight because I told my wife like 5 years back that I wanted her to wear more dresses and so she somehow interpreted that to mean stupid looking t-shirt dresses and when she put one on today apparently she did it for my benefit and apparently I am supposed to keep thoughts like "that dress looks stupid" to myself even though she tells me my outfits look stupid all the time .
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I have no problem claiming. I am just not going to do it unless town wants me to. Right now I have the slimmest player asking for a claim and no other people. Meanwhile BK has obvious town asking him for a claim
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@ILikePie5
The only person who has said my name I even remotely care about defending my behavior to is Austin and he isn't exactly a town read so it's only a mild interest.
I wouldn't be shocked if yesterday's lynch was all town. I cant see any member of town having a legitimate reason for being off that lynch. The only people who could possibly think he was innocent are scum which makes anyone off the lynch more suspicious TBH.
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Glad whiteflame was NKed. I always struggle to read him because he talks like a robot. Sucks he was cop.
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@JoeBob
Back from school. I read it and didn’t understand the end. What happend?
You lynched an innocent person my dude. Single handedly at that. WTF?
Why did you do it?
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@Best.Korea
Implying =/= saying
So what?
Is there some point to pointing out Bullish's statement was hyperbole?
This is just fluff. Obviously it was hyperbole and this statement doesn't get us closer to finding scum.
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@AustinL0926
I'm calling BS on this. This is not MYLO, this is literally the first DP where the scum players have the least flexibility when it comes to their day actions, because it can come back to bite them later. Hammering 7k early harms no one but town.
Okay in Mylo is where I would go against this and be patient. WTF why would you be more in a rush in MYLO. I can be certain I am right but in MyLO I will soften my reads and reconsider everything from a fresh perspective because as far as I knownI rarely if ever make a mistake in LYLO.
Also I think Bullish is the most experienced player here.
Also no offense to whiteflame I don't think his experience matters that much since he isn't a very impactful player. It might help him be on the right lynch but he is usually hard to pin down as town and he isn't ever going to lead a lynch. Not that it matters what I think it matters what the scum team thinks.
I wonder who else has this impression of whiteflame and would have left him alone as scum.
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@AustinL0926
I would be inclined to say he's being too scummy to be scum, if you buy that sort of logic. I'm not opposed to getting a claim out of him, though.
The fake logic is pissing me off though I do realize town can also use shitty logic. This logic seems manufactured though. Thinking it is wrong to question the reasoning behind a hammer or questioning Bullish's interpretation of a handful of words.
Maybe it was for attention; maybe it was to provoke scum; maybe we would have known if we waited for another minute.
I am never going to be a patient guy. It's a flaw in some situations and a blessing in others. I am explaining why I was in a rush and not trying to justify it.
It's legitimately painful for me to think somebody is scum and with 48 more hours for others to come around. Or worse to seen others on the lynch change their mind.
He was never getting off my scumlist so thank God he was lynched because if I was in Mylo with him, he would be gone and we would lose.
I can tell you pie is definitely town. I can tell you this because I always know what he is DP1 because unlike others I am not impressed with his scum play. I also know he is good at catching scum and you should really be reading everybody's posts once but his twice.
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Why did whiteflame die. Did they think he was a cop or something? Did he soft claim it?
He didn't feel like an intimidating presence. Anyone want to get I to analyzing the reasoning for the NK before we make another mistake?
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@Best.Korea
possibly scum, due to lying that 7000 claimed scum when he didnt
This strawmanning is ridiculous. I thought maybe it was just me. I also interpreted the same statement as 7k claiming mafia.
"I AM not the big mafia boss"
Implying that he is the small one.
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@Best.Korea
If I was scum, why wasnt I going for easy lynch
Why would you when it is pretty certain he would b lynched? Why would you contribute to making lynch analysis easier.
I will say if we use lynch analysis which don't rely heavily on we have GP and Pie as clear, joebob as mostly clear and bullish as likely scum.
I won't explain reasoning because I don't want scum to use the reasoning to avoid be analylized, we also know that lynch analysis is worse than actual behavioral analysis.
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@AustinL0926
-"If I am him I go completely silent as a stalling tactic upon hearing this. [WYLTED]" - Post 100. Doesn't this seem kind of weird? In what world would 7k be able to stall out the remaining two and a half days of the DP? Seems like Wylted is trying to subtly encourage someone to hammer him before people consider 7k's claim more carefully.
I was trying to encourage a hammer. I am not a patient player and my fear is usually that we have scum in the noose and then we have a town player or 2 that get sucked into their bullshit and thy wriggle free.
Also I think there are benefits to lynching early. For example if we lynch him and he is scum we have caught scum and denied scum of information while at night our information gathering roles help us narrow scum.
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@Best.Korea
People will vote one of you this game, irrelevant of what you say.
I am not voting pie this game unless somebody investigates him guilty. I am not being voted out this game. If me or pie are scum than town loses. That's all there is to it.
I will say you should full claim though.
VTL Bet.Korea
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@AustinL0926
Really, I come back from school to find 7k speedlynched. Currently catching up.
I never blame town for their own mislynch, but 7k is the exception. It wasn't a noob slip it was him acting scummy, maybe intentionally.
If you read through that DP and didn't get surprised at the flip than I am going to not be able to take you seriously.
I will also say if you were online after he claimed a role too powerful to claim that is definitely active and then claimed vanilla and also where he lightly claimed mafia straight out it would be very suspicious if you didn't rush the lynch.
Also if BK is not on Your scum list right now, that is suspicious.
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Also, Wylted wanted to go after me in dp1 for no reason.
It's legitimately the same reason as pie. You couldn't come up with any town reads or scum reads. Most of us struggle as scum to come up with reads because we want to keep our options open and it is hard to explain a change in reads.
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@Best.Korea
Just for your information. I thought 7K was scum when he hammered and joebob seemed indifferent and whiteflame looked like he was going to hammer anyway so I wanted Joebob's reasoning.
Scum will often be on scum lunches. However scum will give different reasoning than town would for lynching often.
I wanted 7k lynched and everyone who was on the lynch seemed to have a reason for being on the lynch. The standout was joebob.
I will also say that whiteflame did stand out as odd because me and Pie often rush through lynches like that and often whiteflame is the voice of reason and will urge people to slow down. I didn't want to overthink it though because it seemed so obvious that 7k was scum.
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@ILikePie5
Can yall please vote Best Korea
I fully plan too. Kind of shell shocked that I was wrong last DP though so I am not going to rush things.
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@Best.Korea
Wylted told joe to hammer, then blamed joe for hammering, but lets first out pie.
I didn't blame him. I was asking him for his reasoning.
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We don't actually get many religious posters here but as far as free will is concerned, take a look at calvanism
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That's what I think we are doing it is just abstracted away so that way it looks like creativity. We are merely a more advanced AI or should I say differently advanced but it isn't magic.
Also I should note trying to differentiate between artificial intelligence and real intelligence is probably like trying to figure out how many grains of sand differentiate a mountain and a hill.
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@Best.Korea
Uncle Ted actually detailed how over socialization is harmful to the individual and how "good" people do live worse life's because of that over socialization. https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/unabomber/manifesto.text.htm
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I will get my final debate votes in. Vote 2 of 3
The invasion of Ukraine one
The invasion of Ukraine one
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How long do we have to votebecausei wanted to read through the already nominated debates to ee what I like the most
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Or maybe misappliedit to a similar debate about invasion
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@Barney
You missed Austin's vote for the invasion of Poland
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@7000series
I am confident you are scum but I have been confident and wrong before. The best way for you to get off of the chopping block like this is typically to find scum. It also wouldn't hurt to explain inconsistencies in things you have stated.
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Well Joebob could be scum also. If radomizing puts 7k and joebob together on the scum team you just reroll but whatever
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@ILikePie5
I think it’s probably someone not experienced or strategic in the channel. I’d guess either Korea, Austin, or GP
Could be 2 out of those 3.
I am pretty sure Bullish is town. Whiteflame being online and him still claiming vanilla makesme lean town on whiteflame.
If 2 scum remain it is likely from the block you mentioned and Austin is more likely than GP to be scum.
So remaining scum probably Austin, and BK but maybe GP and BK.
We have a large town block so this bodes we'll for us
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@whiteflame
Too late. I already found an excuse to eat like shit. My only saving grace will be if I am broke. I paid a lot of bills today so we'll see.
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@Best.Korea
Only if you are about to be lynched anyway and are at 4/5, claim.
Remember you said this because I might be bringing it up later
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@ILikePie5
Is nobody in the scum chat with this fucker?
What is going on?
You think he would get better help with his claim. And how to handle pressure.
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@JoeBob
You can but no more claims this dp unless it is from BK. Just watch the show.
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@whiteflame
That just made me more hungry. You are to blame because this is going to cause me to have a cheat meal which could turn into a cheat month.
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