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Here's how Andrew Tate stopped the Nazis and won freedom for America and the world
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@zedvictor4
Bro the illuminati officially exposed. Nobody went on discord so just made it a YouTube video. Starting a new thread now.
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This is going to get memory holes but the illuminati is getting exposed at midnight tonight on discord in the illuminati voice chat
Do not tell any government agencies this is happening just shut the fuck up and be there if you want the truth
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If 23 people is 50% I am not sure of 25. I just know this is something I had to learn for a test or to help me understand the concept of hashes
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Some birthdays are more common than others. In a room of 23 people there is about a 50% chance of two people sharing a birthday.
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If Moozer is scum why does it feel like 8 players are on board with his lynch. That's the thing messing with my head
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@Bullish
Why am I tagging you here bro? Like in this very post. Why would I do that?
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@Lunatic
I was just thinking we are all criminals here and slipping into that but you know what. I can be happy with a Moozer lynch rereading his posts. His justification sounds like bullshit the pushback against claining vanilla. The only thing that gives me pause is Vader likes vanillas and he is a big character
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@Moozer325
You stated
Also, I'm experienced enough to know the basics of fake-claiming. To do a little bit of WIFOM, neither me nor my scum buddy would have suggested a vanilla claim once I'd already held off claiming for a bit. I'm not that bad at this game.
How would you know what your scum buddy would suggest? We all have different personalities and if you told me that in the scum PM, there is a good chance I just tell you "you do you". And a big part of the reason is because in scum chats I am trying to balance not being pushy with giving good advice and I struggle with a happy medium there. I also try not to give advice in some situations so nobody blames me if they get lynched so if you told me vanilla I wouldn't push back that hard if at all.
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@Moozer325
You are online don't make me read through all your posts, why is your dude vanilla?
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Did we get moozers justification. I can put in the hammer myself if he struggled with it. I prefer earth but seeing his justification could change my mind
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@Lunatic
Bullish's character makes no sense either unless I am missing some of the plot but we have to depend on scum to eliminate him from the POE assuming he is scum in which case he'll ave a hard time explaining why he's alive come mylo h
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It is possible they are both scum or both town but I think both being town but I think the least likely possibility is both are town
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@That2User
Okay I concede that point. Given where the vote stands right now I am pretty convinced either earth or Moozer is scum. It's just down to getting the vote right at this point
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@Moozer325
If pie is scum we can take care of him last TBH. He imposes an intimidating enough presence that the scum team will often take him out early and help you with that part of your POE if you are wrong.
I also have him in my POE but it's hard to lynch him.
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The psychiatrist is likely the other female claimed I would think
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@Casey_Risk
Just started watching a character break down after you said that. I don't think the claim makes him town even if it's true. I also think if scum knows the theme claiming the wife of a mob boss could be an easy fake claim depending on the theme. There is a 2nd female claim though so my theory of it just being "family" must be wrong.
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@Casey_Risk
Isn't she also like a strong Catholic girl who is blind about her husband being a gangsta though she obviously suspects it?
I have not watched a single episode but she isn't out doing crimes or organized crime herself
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@ILikePie5
PM to anyone else? I would 100% expect a Godfather in this game
Did his character snitch?
There has got to be at least one snitch in the show Moozer claimed a character high in the organization and he may have been the first role claim if I remember and his behavior may feel off due to the distance between this game and his last. I think earth is the better lynch but I also think the scum pool is prettynarrow right now.
I say we lynch earth and see where we are at. I will hammer Moozer if it gets to the last minute and we are risking a no lynch I just want to advocate for what I see as a better option right now
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@Casey_Risk
Earth claimed a character and the character isn't even in the family . She isn't in the mob. I think we need to go earth here
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@Moozer325
If you get on the earth lynch than it's possible to avoid being lynched yourself. It shows there are two possible lynches and others may get off your lynch if they prefer earth
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@Savant
Then she personally was posing a threat by being a part of the crowd and contributing to the dangerous behavior. They can't shoot a random person caught up in the crowd.
Yes, the courts have ruled that you can treat the crowd as an individual. That means if you get caught up in a crowd that poses a danger to somebody whether accidentally or intentionally than you can be shot and killed in self defense ..
Some courts might, but only because throwing someone to the ground is barely anything compared to death and they might overlook it.
That's not how the law works. Your intention is not determined by the results of your actions.
Practically, though, not every step before self-defense is itself self-defense. You can kill three people if they are all attacking you, but if you kill three bystanders to get a line of sight to someone threatening you, you can be charged for their deaths.
If the court determines there was no other way to save your life than to shoot through 3 people than you are in the clear.
I think you are putting yourself in the shoes of the bystanders which isn't how court decisions are reached. They are reached by putting yourself in the shoes of the accused and determining if they are factually innocent or not, not usually to be judged based on the results of actions but by the mind of the accused.
Juries aren't perfect for example there have been experiments that have shown that if a person crashes a car drunk into a tree the jury will determine the act was not intentional, but if a kid happens to be in front of the tree the jury will find the act intentional.. so I won't argue about what the results would be in court only about the philosophical distinctions between what makes a person innocent or guilty.
Also that's why you'll see cases where the prosecution can use a lot of appeals to emotion the defense lawyer will waive his clients right to a trial by his peers, judges can more easily igbore biases such as the bias of whether what happened to innocent bystanders is fair.
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Which in this case makes more sense as a line of reasoning than self-defense, but it's not as politically palatable to say the ends justify the means.
Which is why until modern times military was usually kept separate from politics. To avoid terrible decisions for political motives
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@Savant
A crowd isn't a single entity though, nor is a country. Individuals aren't responsible for what other members of their country do. Ashley Babbit was shot for trespassing, not just being part of a crowd.
Trespassers cannot be shot on site in the United States. Even if you to area 51 and jump the gate they aren't allowed to kill you for it.
The reason Ashley Babbit was considered a self defense kill is because the crowd posed a threat and the courts have ruled that if a crowd or group poses a threat you can use lethal force on individuals in the crowd who may not alone be a threat to your life.
Even if that's a justification for civilian casualties (and I don't buy that it always is), it doesn't make killing non-aggressors self-defense. The civilians aren't the ones making the terrorists hide behind them
When you say the civilians aren't making the terrorists crouch and shoot between their legs it looks like you are shifting to whether it's unfair or not that they die. Perhaps in some cases the civilians volunteer to be human shields and in others they are forced but let's assume forced.
It might be unfair for them to die by soldiers shooting back at the terrorists and intentionally aiming through them to do it. It wouldn't make aiming through them to kill somebody who poses an immediate threat not part of the act of self defense.
You also seem to want to dismiss the steps of performing the act of self defense as not part of self defense but I think you can consider some acts prior to pulling the trigger part of the self defense.
For example if somebody is in your way and you through them to the ground and hurt them so they get out of your line of site so you can kill a terrorist. I would and I think most courts wouldn't call that battery but include it in the "act" of self defense. So I do believe you are wrong to thing the intermediary steps to the actual bullet through the head of a terrorist doesn't include self defense. I think the act can last quite a while and the act can potentially even be part of the post shooting aftermath in some conditions
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So in short yes. Yes you can kill non combatants in self defense but war is not usually about self defense but defending national interests from existential threats
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@Savant
you can argue self-defense to justify killing the terrorists, but not so much the five noncombatants.
Israel does far more to avoid killing non combatants than Hamas but with that aside you can kill non combatants and it be considered self defense in some situations. For example a crowd if it is dangerous can be considered a single entity and you can use force to disperse a dangerous crowd, which is why the killing of Ashley Babbit who posed no threat was considered justified.
War you have much more room to kill ethically especially when it comes to organizations like ISIS or Hamas who will have women stand in front of the. So they can shoot between their legs to kill you.
Or they hide out in schools and hospitals so any attacks on them kill civilians for propaganda purposes or because they know they are the bad guys and are taking advantage of Israel good nature and reluctance to kill civilians. A reluctance they don't share.
So the options really are kill civilians or allow terrorists to do whatever they want and reward them for using civilian shields
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@Earth
You should just full claim. We have like 8 hours. You have 3 votes on you and unless we get more information to determine your affiliation than I don't see you surviving this dp
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@Dr.Franklin
Try capital i as opposed to lower case L .
But the secret conversion theory might be interesting to look into.
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You have to start somewhere. Eliminating discretionary spending is good now drill baby drill and sell a shitload of oil, take minerals from the Ukraine whatever it takess to correct the sinking ship
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@Dr.Franklin
So publicly he is using "loyalty" to Jews as a way to deport people who are sympathetic to and prime recruitment targets for terrorists while in actuality he is robbing billionaire Jews of their wealth?
Based
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@zedvictor4
You humans are all the same.
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I think whiteflame is town and I'll share my thoughts if he gets some votes on him but I don't feel like it now .
Well fine I just won't hunt down the posts. He is usually ultra cautious as scum in my opinion and it is really similar behavior as town but he seemed to have an IDGAF attitude in response to a few posts which I don't think he would have had as scum.
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@Mharman
That's a good one. Free that mother fucker.
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@Vader
Is this the best scene from the Sopranos?
https://youtu.be/yicP7ZEEz1k?si=O6XOKuC8qhfXT0fP
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@Earth
My vote is also on you I am just checking to make sure it isn't a hammer first
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@That2User
heros week you can swap out word girl now
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@Savant
For those reading this in the future: WyIted changed his profile picture to Mao Zedong
we need more people who want to preserve history, thanks
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@FLRW
fuck yeah
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Let's all change our profile pics to people who did amazing things and sacrificed it all to make the world a better place. This community needs more positivity
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the profile pic is not a claim this time. just a personal hero who made the world a better place
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For all these grifters who thinks Trump is in the pocket of Jews the top 500 billionaires are 30% Jewish https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbes_400
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With all of the talks of taxing the rich by the left, Trump has literally erased half a trillion dollars of their wealth. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-04-04/billionaires-poised-to-lose-near-half-trillion-dollars-in-2-days
Democrats actually never call for doing anything with the money they tax billionaires with so the goal really is to destroy their wealth and yet their plans always fail. Trump has once again stuck it to the billionaire class by erasing half a trillion of their wealth so everyday Americans can have higher paying jobs and safer communities.
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@Sidewalker
The penguins are half black, but in all seriousness there is a breakaway civilization hidden in heard island and we do some secret trades with them for new tech
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@n8nrgim
Venezuela has already discussed dropping their tarrifs so we can drop ours. It appears the strategy is working.
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Your not a wise guy. You ait. Part of the family you're a pig
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@Bullish
I mean if this is a game of good guys vs bad guys it appears you're on the wrong side of the law
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