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@Shila
I literally already pointed out the problems but here is the raw numbers broken down showing the inferiority of socialized medicine.
https://fee.org/articles/if-american-healthcare-kills-european-healthcare-kills-more/
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@SocraticGregarian96
If you look at what is destroying western civilization there seems to be a jew at the top of it.
Degenerate music. Jews run the music industry.
Porn- jews in charge of most major porn companies
Communism- usually Jewish people at the forefront in academia pushing it.
Look at the top 10 academic books on immigration, transgenderism etc. And it's mostly Jewish writers. There may not be an organized plot d
To turn western nations into 3rd world countries but the effects of their actions are not distinguishable from an organized plot to destroy the west
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So we need to see the democrats stand up to the leftists in their own party in order to trust them with a single payer solution. We also need to be able to trust them to put people first and not be needs who try to quantify the value of a human life with their healthcare rationing proposals.
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@Savant
I am a republican. I know a free market solution to these problems isn't going to happen.
Almost everyone is ready to agree on single payer. There is only one problem. We can't trust the government. We see news stories from England where children are denied an opportunity to try and save their own life by throwing spaghetti at the problem and seeing what helps. We see Euthanasia being promoted. Not merely being presented as an option but almost pushed on the elderly and I have seen even middle aged people looking at Euthanasia as an option who admit they just don't want to be homeless but can't work. So they are in pain but the pain is not what makes life unbearable. We hear of 6 month wait times for procedures that should be life saving. We even have the Canadian government refusing healthcare to those who refuse covid vaccines.
We just need our representatives to be human beings and prove that we will not turn into a society that uses socialized medicine as a stick to make freedom loving people comply, or that beurocrats will be deciding if a kid lives or dies based on some inhuman math about the value of their life in respects to the treatment attempts. We don't want the government promoting Euthanasia because some politician has looked into the numbers and realizes it can reduce end of life costs.
A free market approach won't work because the general population is too stupid and weak to deal with the painful short term consequences for better long term health care, and we literally see liberals pushing retarded shit and nobody on the right wants tax payer money going for transitions but letting kids die rather than at least attempting to save them with experimental treatments.
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You are so smart. Way to disprove sociology.
Certainly white people have zero advantages. Me and any Negro friend I have can walk into a 7/11 and be observed an equal amount by whoever the Indian owner is.
Wow orange people being politically persecuted somehow proves that white people have zero advantages.
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@Shila
Where would it end if people were justified in killing people who disagreed with them and were classified as evil.?
I think that's a relevant point. However what if we can clearly differentiate between evil and good and only allowed people who accurately determined if somebody was evil was killed?
We could set up a type of system. Maybe the system would judge acts as evil or non evil, since we can't know a person's mind. To be fair we should get 12 people randomly selected to determine if they did said evil act and only if they unanimously agree is the person punished.
I would also want them to have a fair chance at defending themselves so maybe they can have a professionally trained legal debater argue their case for them. Of course the people would likely also select a professional debater as well. So maybe we can have a professional mediator who can keep both sides in line so the 12 randomly selected people can be free of as much bias as possible.
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@Greyparrot
Sidewinder is likely gay. One of the gayest things you can do is get married to a woman. I will let the greatest thinker of our time explain
https://youtube.com/shorts/OZFE6EZ46kw?si=rH8ybsnLWhfPTJZQ
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@FLRW
That is not what is going on here. I wouldn't be surprised if it is a DOD contractor who is doing it to scare people into supporting billions of dollars for drone technology.
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One of the drones crashed in New Jersey and the FBI ran to it. If we don't have a report on what they found by tomorrow then they are hiding ir
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@Best.Korea
I can't follow them. I have to wake up at like 5am
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@Best.Korea
I just saw some. It was like 30 flying together. This was near Wilmington Delaware. They weren't close enough for me to throw anything at them. I was hoping to throw shit at them if I saw them but not possible
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@Lemming
@Best.Korea
If it is aliens we need to rape them . Sucker's have been probing humans and mutilating cows for a century. Give them a taste of their own medicine
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Trump calls for enemy drones on the east coast to be shot down. This guy has the highest level security clearance and doesn't know what the fuck is going on with the drones. It is definitely a threat. Maybe alien but probably human in origin.
Either way let's shoot them down and if it's war with aliens or Iran I don't care. Let's gooooooo
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5039992-trump-drones-shot-down/amp/
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@Savant
Did you know the military came up with a gay bomb to turn enemy troops gay so they are easier to defeat? It's declassified now.
The attempt to turn people gay for population control doesn't mean the conspiracy comes from gays BTW. It just means the elites find it beneficial to turn black men gay and import 3rd worlders to replace them in an effort to have a more subservient population
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@Shila
The word score has multiple definitions. You want to look at context normally
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Woman arrested for saying delay, deny depose on a call with her insurance company. Lol
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/woman-arrested-saying-delay-deny-224928848.html?guccounter=1
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@Lemming
Yes it was inspired from that LOL. A very scary situation and why I would be concerned about being the target of any nation state actors.
The Russians are particularly dangerous. They also at one time killed a journalist with mercury but the idiots who delivered it also likely died from exposure as well.
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Average IQ is 100 even if everyone on earth doubles their intelligence. 100 is a relative value not really a score. 100 means you have scored the same as the average person on the test. It's kinda graded on a curve.
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@Swagnarok
I would have just used a poisoned pin cap and accidentally bump into him, inject it and leave for a non extradition country to see if there was any hint of me being a suspect.
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@IlDiavolo
It's really weird what it's going on there. I heard that in the UK is happening the same, maybe Victor can tell us if he heard something about it. It's really interesting to note that these drones only show up in the US and in a country allied to the US which is the UK.
It's mostly Republicans politicians and lawmakers talking about it here. Who is talking about it in the UK? It would only take like 5 well placed Americans to create this sort of psyop to justify increasing military budget on drones and also hinting at Iran to justify potential military action.
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@Shila
I have heard media outlets report that it was a side entrance and not the main entrance. Either those outlets are mistaken or you are. I am not sure which.
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@Double_R
I'm not talking about the 4 or 5 active conservatives on this site. I'm talking about the right wing media ecosystem
Fair enough but they are not representative of MAGA Republicans. Look in their comment sections when they say stupid shit like this.
It is this gross misunderstanding that leads to all your other absurdities. It's why everytime I argue with you I have to constantly point out the strawman you are attacking
This might be true and requires some introspection on my part.
You don't know how I think, because liberal you is way different than liberal me. But as long as you continue to insist that you are arguing with yourself everything that follows will always be twisted by your mind into stupidity.
Possible. i will have to consider if I am projecting myself onto others too much.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
I've never played before, what's the learning curve?
It's forum based among us.
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@Savant
Edit: I wrote this before I let what you wrote settle. It seems we mostly agree but it might be worth reading anyway
There is push back against something like this because it ruins the prestige of the degree and for good reason.
At one point companies could IQ test employees to see who had the intellectual capacity for higher roles without the trouble of having to attend college, but those work places were sued because the courts ruled it was discrimination. The ruling was Grey enough where you could still do it, but businesses are risk averse.
This was at the timewhere if you hired a college graduate you knew he probably had an IQ of 140+ and was extremely capable. Soon there was a fight to get military into college so it could be available for more people. It was right after the Supreme Court ruling against IQ testing employees.
So the success of this movement lowered the average IQ to probably about 120. So businesses by requiring a college degree could at least prevent themselves from hiring somebody too dumb. However they could take the average IQ of management and raise it by filtering for the most prestigious colleges.
After this though. Things started getting real bad. We are talking Pell grants, we are talking colleges accepting students for just writing "black lives matter" over and over on college essays and getting in.
So now college isn't even a good estimate unless you focus on stem, but those people are going into stem related fields. So we have a system where literally anyone can get a college degree so it's only a filter to really rule out some people who maybe lack discipline.
It's why when I see a psychologist I only make appointments with therapists who have a PHD. Because it is possible with an IQ of just 100 to graduate with a bacchelors in psychology.
It's pointless. I propose a system where we erase the need for college and just use certs. Like with accounting you get the most basic xert if you want to prepare taxes. If you want to work for a fortune 500 company navigating all their bullshit then maybe you get 10 certs and become a higher level CPA . While this doesn't filter for IQ, it does filter for knowledge level which is more important for roles like that.
Iq only matters for positions of strategic influence such as upper level management. By moving to a cert system perhaps we can discourage idiots from going to college and it can be a good filter again for talent, but that is if we get institutions who also raise their standards and get rid of things like Pell Grants which are largely used to defraud the government by fake colleges like Devry University anyway
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@Sidewalker
Nah, it was probably all that really cool stuff you said.
He went out the side exit to have a smoke or something. Maybe that was the OSINT. Luigi didn't wait by the front door.
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@Sidewalker
This link explains everything about it.
This changes everything. Wow.
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@Shila
Okay I already knew all thay. If you are trying to make a point by pointing those things out please state what the point is
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@Shila
Are you insinuating that the technology being in plain sight would declassified them.
That's notnreally how it works if so. To this day the Snowden leaks are considered classified and if you work in the government and talk about the information in them you can go to prison despite the information being public knowledge
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@Shila
Yes they were in plain site if that's what you were asking though it was dark and when there were eyes on them they seemed to go dark.
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@Shila
Yes I read that the pentagon said that. The woman was also choosing her words wisely. I watched the press conference. When asked about the mothership her response is
"There is no mothership"
It's weasel language. Was there one there or not. Nobody asked "is"
Also asked if it came from the US government. She says
"IT IS not military drones"
Another answer that tells you nothing because it could be CIA drones or some other organization. So she isnusing weasel language to not admit anything. And to be fair if she reveals classified information she can go to prison so I understand why she would. The point is that you don't want to take her denials too seriously
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@Sidewalker
If they nuke New Jersey, it will be an improvement.
I don't disagree but we also want let them think they can just roll up with drones. I get the feeling that mouths are sealed because they don't want to militarily intervene if it is somebody like China but sending Arial vehicles to surveillance our nuclear sites should be a red line.
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The SUV sized drones in New Jersey came from off shore and are Iranian. https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/new-jersey/2024/12/11/jeff-van-drew-suggets-nj-drone-sightings-linked-to-iran-mothership/76922445007/
It could be a false flag but it seems that a few congressman have hinted at it and Heff Van Drew has risked going to prison for disclosing classified information for informing the public that an Iranian mothership was off the coast of the Unired States.
It looks like Iran has declared war on the United States or that somebody wants us to think they have so I would expect a war with Iran shortly after Trump takes office, which means it's likely in the best interest of the United States to keep Russia tied up in the Ukraine so expect increased action there as well.
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Me: I post 10 threads supporting an assassin
Remy: I am going o see if he would support a murderer by tricking him with A Trump question.
Bro I admitted it. No need to trick me LOL
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@ILikePie5
I like Remy's retarded logic. He sees me openly support Luigi because he murdered somebody and then asks
"Would you support Trump if he murdered somebody"
Is he retarded? I supported a literal communist for doing a murder. Obviously I would support a person whose ideology I agree with
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@Swagnarok
, it's right wing media's fault for not serving its constituents in the way that left-wing media does its own. The "intellectuals" of the right spend all of their time moaning about how woke a movie with a green-skinned main character is because she was played by a black woman, or
It might be best just to not play by their rules. For example I saw a journalistell Trump about economists who disagreed with a position of his. Instead of quoting economists who do, he pointed out that economists were also retarded enough to support NAFTA.
So if we can just get around their game, perhaps we don't need our institutions to match theirs in terms of cherry picking data
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@FLRW
Remy's IQ, like yours, is over 130.
If true I am not sure why he struggles to avoid false dilemma and strawman arguments. While I likely use strawman myself they are to force somebody to elaborate. He seems to actually believe it when he uses them. I guess there could be a maturity issue. I know it's not easy to overcome some cognitive distortions but false dilemma should be easy
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@Savant
I guess the point of going after the CEO is to send a message to individuals who make decisions that if they make evil decisions they might be killed. After this happened an I durance co.pany who was going to refuse to pay for anesthesia throughout an entire surgery, I guess they wanted people to be operated on without it. We'll they decided people can have anesthesia for their entire surgery so maybe his way did create some good.
Me personally, I would attack the company and not the individual and short their stock prior to the attack.
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@Shila
They do. He is no libertian. Just look at his policies
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@RemyBrown
Talking point argument; dodging the question like a career politician
I literally said yes and you calling me low IQ WAS UNCALLED FOR. I gave premises for why you are low IQ, I didn't just randomly insult
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@RemyBrown
No you are retard. The trolley problem doesn't change based on who made the decision
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@RemyBrown
You continually are debunked by conservatives even when you argue against left wing positions. Have you ever wondered why even when your conclusion is agreed with a conservative would disprove it? It's because you are a retard and do not even understand the belief you are arguing against. You only use false dichotomies and strawman because your IQ is literally too low to make arguments without false dichotomies or strawman. Now on to your retard questions which have already been answered hundreds of times.
If Trump shot someone, then would you still vote for him?
Yes. I don't hate America enough to destroy it with a vote for kamala just because he is a bad person. I only care about his policies
Answer yes or no; a politician dodge would be assumed to be a yes.
2. What if Trump said he could shoot someone and not lose voters? Would you still vote for him?
That's only a statement about how loyal people are. It is not a statement about whether it is ethical to shoot someone. I would obviously vote for him if he said that and you are a retard. Please take nootropics
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@RemyBrown
With healthcare, where?
Did you know that regulations and subsidies exist?
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@RemyBrown
So he killed a few to save millions. What a bad person
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@Savant
So this is how you track down a CEO. I did it yesterday to prove a point. I know you brought up personal security as a barrier but then you just social engineer your way into their inner circle and you can still do that in a somewhat anonymous way, but also keep in mind they are probably only taking security to public meetings and such, probably not to walk them from the car to their office though if they are a high level target, hopefully their office building is surrounded by security and man traps that scan for weapons and make sure everyone who is there is authorized to be there, but in many places this isn't done.
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A lot of people are wondering how Luigi knew that the CEO would be where he was when he was.
I could explain the process but I wanted to replicate the process and display how I did it. I also watched you to keep in mind that Mangione was a bit of a hacker as well, so this method would likely be known to him.
I will be obfuscsting details to not jeopardize the security of this individual.
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The CEO targeted was in charge of a $500 million dollar a year business as I was only working with my lunch break and he would be significantly more accessible than the head of a mega global corporation. However I had 30 minutes to do my job and Mangione had 6 months of living off grid prior to gunning down Brian Thompson.
I called up some employee a few levels down from lers call him CEO Bob. So not high enough to be standing right beside him but high enough to know his weekly schedule. I also assumed they hold some sort of weekly meeting.
Here is my phone call
Alice: hello this is evil corp, how can ai help you?
Me: hello, this is embarrassing but I am Jim. I am sure you heard of me.
Alice: not really
Me: well I am the new finance director and I am supposed to attend the weekly meeting. Here is the thing. I accidentally deleted the email giving the time and location. I don't want to make a bad impression by telling CEO Bob that I misplaced the details can you just tell me when and what time the weekly meeting is?
Alice: I definitely understand that feeling, no problem buddy they meet at the Hilton at 6 am on Thursdays. Conference center A
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There is no way the police will ever know how Mangione learned the movements of the CEO, but it isn't particularly hard, even with targets like Brian Thompson.
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@Savant
How do you eliminate the CEO with private security?
Using OSINT.
Get into his circle pretending to be a reporter interested in his philothranpic efforts, gain an interview and then PEW PEW, or poison a coffee and get away. I listen to as many red teaming stories as possible and there are several ways to do it for a high IQ individual. Guns also have been fitted to drones with the ability to remote fire for those with bad social skills
As far as preferred system, both a single payer solution and and ancap solution would be an improvement on the status quo. I also think an ideologically consistent governing body would be better holistically than implementing a Mish mash of political theories.
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@RemyBrown
Sure, but the problem was removed for decades; whining about it is like BLM whining about slavery.
Not really true, there is still a lot of economic interventiomism.
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@RemyBrown
any politician that started a war is guilty of murder
Correct
(including Trump).
He didn't start any
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