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@whiteflame
WyIted has made a point of saying before that he doesn't think it should be an SOP claim, and if he had gotten it, I think he would have pushed back harder on claiming it
Keep in mind that as a Miller I know there is an investigative role. A lot of aus on me is a good reason to claim. Usually the cop gets 1 or 2 investigations in a game, even if they are not X-shot so I didn't want them wasting their shot on me so I have a good reason to just go ahead and tell them what their result on me will be. I know I didn't visit mharman so I am not sure what the deal here is today. Behaviorally speaking I had a town read of him but mechanically, knowing I am town this makes him scum.
I don't understand his gambit here unless he can obscure my affiliation upon death but I wasn't misdirected last NP because Casey's name was in my PM and I would be in a PM with mharman right now if I was misdirected.
His results are wrong or he lied.
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@Mharman
Insomniac is told what roles target them. Were you told a Miller targeted you?
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I guess mharman never took back his claim of scum reading me. I thought his post earlier mentioning pie and lunatic was him saying that he had scum team narrowed to those two, apparently it was a claim as to who my partner was.
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VTL Mharman.
I am not lying about where I used my visiting ability and it is the only visiting ability I had.
I am not lying about where I used my visiting ability and it is the only visiting ability I had.
I guess Scum could have some role that compulsively makes somebody visit. The chances of that seem pretty low and it's a role I have never seen before.
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I just checked again. Casey was mentioned by name in my PM. Mharman's results just wouldn't happen if I was redirected or anything like that. So the two options are
1. Mharman is scum and this is somehow MYLO if I am lynched.
2. Bastard modding.
We have to assume number 1 is the case. I don't k ow if we have a vig or something that could extend mylo and the scum team messed up. Maybe mharman can erase the results of my flip but If I end up lynched I think if there is a vig then they should shoot mharman just in case we have an exposed hated town member. If there is a doctor I would really think hard about where to use your ability because the scum teambwould likely go for a non obvious target, otherwise mharmans gambit makes no sense
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@Lunatic
okay so catching up, it seems like mharman has results that contradict what wylted is saying he used his role on. I will wait until wylted responds because I know wylted like to gambit
It's not a gambit. This is either bastard modding or mharman is scum. I had a pretty strong town read on mharman so it's a bit embarrassing. I would also say that it may also be somehow endgame here with a lynch of me for some reason, because I don't see a reason to do a 1 for 1 trade unless we are at an end game scenario here
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@whiteflame
I guess it's worth giving WyIted a chance to respond, though at this point, it seems pretty blatant.
It looks like mharman flipped his read on me while having this result so maybe there is a way for scum to win right now by getting a mislynch but his earlier town read on me makes no sense if he had results that contradicted what he said about me earlier
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@Mharman
My results? Last night I was targeted by Austin and Wylted. This means Austin is telling the truth and Wylted is implicated in a lie.
The mod specifically said that my neighborize with Casey was successful and that means I was not misdirected towards you. I got Casey's name in my pm from the mod. It makes no sense for you to town read me if this is your result
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@Earth
I have jackshit for reads bro. It doesn't help that everyone was either sick or lurking/fillering
I have to get around to rereading tomorrow as well. I assume only the last 12 or so hours of last DP need to be read and that's where the only real tells will be found especially with the knowledge that Casey is town and GP
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@Mharman
Did any of you visit me last night? Be truthful.
Why don't you role claim because now I am confused about what you could be hinting at here
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@ILikePie5
Do you think Earth is scum?
Not anymore. That interaction with whiteflame seems like a bad play for scum
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Give me a chance to read last dp and give some actually well thought out reads if I do end up being the NK.
I can say I am pretty certain mharman is town but I was certain of that last DP. I have to revisit everyone else
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@Mharman
Bro, nobody is going to admit to visiting Casey.
Why because if you kill me than it makes them the obvious Lynch next dp.
You probably tracked me which is why you haven't stated the other visitor. They are just hoping you lynch me and then maybe they NK you just in case you are watcher so you can't reveal the other visitor
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@whiteflame
Pie seemed enthusiastic last dp and not going for some of the easier lynches near the end.
Mharman's thoughts were too disorganized to be scum.
You I always have a hard time with but you also weren't biting on easy things to twist.
Austin seemed to resist the common mass claims we see on dp1 that allow scum to choose NKs correctly so he felt like town
I know I am town.
Casey was flying under the radar despite being active. I didn't like lunatics IDGAF response to mild pressure almost daring people to come at him.
That's from memory
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This song is not paranoid. Those are real headlines from tabloids in the video. It used to break my heart.
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@whiteflame
So I had thought scum was between Casey, lunatic and earth.
I also thought that of those three Casey was the most Naive and I could tell her some bullshit like I was secret scum and see if she would out herself to me. Lunatic and earth would just immediately dismiss the gambit
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Leave me alone may be interpreted as paranoid but honestly it's just about the tabloids and paparazzi, which got significantly worse after that album
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@whiteflame
The latter I think had to do with the romance portion.
Let's see. He said the album was full of romance and paranoia.
I disagree. Maybe the Miller aspect is related to paranoia and the romance element to the neighborize part of the role.
There was was a lot of romantic songs. If I remember correctly PYT, Liberian Girl, I have to go through it again.
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@Mharman
Tell everything or die. It might not save you anyway.
I know it is exciting when you think you caught scum but I wouldn't lead with your results first thing.
You are now safely in the town pile but, you did give away that you are just 1 of 2 roles and did t give somebody time to lie.
I was going to out my actions last NP, probably. However it's better to see if somebody lies first.
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@Earth
No, the chat ends when she is dead and since she died at the same time I neighborized her, it cancels it out
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@Dr.Franklin
I would do the same.
AOL parents would do the same. He did lie and say he wouldn't. The lie is a moral failing but damn near all people are going to spare their children from prison if given the chance
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"Keep you by my side"
Is what cerulean called the ability. But he labeled my role miller
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@whiteflame
So when you said you were the opposite of the opposite of the Miller, you meant you were just the Miller?
Yes
Why phrase it that way?
Dad humor. I never thought it would happen to me but it did.
While we’re at it, what do you mean by neighboring? Was this a Neighborizer role where you could recruit people to a private chat?
Yes. it autocorrected to neighboring but I meant neighborize. It is 1x and I used it on Casey because I thought she was scum and I could trick her into confessing in a PM. I was considering pie but started to townread him a bit near the end and also know he is often the dp1 target of scum. I am regret g my choice now though
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This is why I don't like you. I don't like liberals but to steelman their position the argument is creating a better safety net would prevent a lot of abortions.
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Also I don't know if I need to justify why an album called bad would be paired with Miller. It's pretty self explanatory
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I kinda regret claiming now but thought there was a risk of being investigated as I had a few votes on me and didn't want the cop to waste their ability on me
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@Mharman
Quote
"Because I'm bad, I'm bad"
The role is Miller but I have a 1x neighboring with it as well. I used the neighboring on Casey as inconvenient as that is.
I legit thought she was scum and I thought if I neighboring her she as scum might be a bit naive so I was planning to make up some lie about being secret scum to get her to confess, but apparently not only was I wrong about her being scum but extremely wrong as she came across as so towny the scum team had her eliminated
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@Mharman
By “everything” I mean what your role is called, what it does, the justification for it being paired with Michael Jackson’s Bad album, the lyric paired, and how you used your role, if it has any active components.
Sure give me a minute
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@ADreamOfLiberty
- That is and always has been a flaw in the legal system. There should be no plea deals, no short cuts, no opportunities to frighten or intimidate defendants and witnesses. The key to ending corruption is to remove corrupt motivations and these deals as well as prosecutorial discretion is nothing but one big mountain of potentially corrupt motivation.
Agreed. When you are innocent but a plea deal means you go home and fighting it means 3-6 months in jail as it often does with disadvantaged people than it isn't justice. Alfred pleas should be the first to go.
Also it would be culturally insensitive to criticize the Chinese for eating a dog, but for some reason sucking that same dogs dick gets you put in jail
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@Shila
Her boyfriend was arrested as an accessory so I think he was the dog owner and in on it
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@ADreamOfLiberty
This is making the rounds. Any comments on it ?
https://torontosun.com/news/world/british-woman-faces-two-years-in-prison-for-having-sex-with-dog
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@Sidewalker
LOL, that is one of the many many things you MAGA nitwits don't understand, it wasn't Biden's DOJ, the DOJ is independent and non-political, until now of course, it's only Trump that is corrupting and weaponizing the DOJ.
Bro they literally went after Trump because he was anti establishment. Not sure why you think it is an altruistic and perfect organization but they are susceptible to political pressures.
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@Mharman
I’m working through my thoughts. I’m not ready to pick between you or Wylted yet, and I do have a thought that lynching either of you could be a trap
I am going to chalk this up to paranoid town. Me and GP are both town TBH and quite obviously so.
I am good with no lynches today
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@Best.Korea
This seems meaningless, but I am just scared of death because its unknown. Like, no one knows whats it like. Maybe its super painful.
Maybe it is awesome though. You can't always be so negative
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@Mharman
Not the opposite of miler but opposite of the opposite
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@Casey_Risk
It's not scummy because it is the opposite of the opposite of a Miller and not necessarily a Miller, but I just believe in trying to draw in the NK but if there are a few votes on me, I will always claim it so the cop doesn't waste an investigation
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@Mharman
Fine I will claim since there is only a few hours left in the dp.
My album is Bad and I am not the opposite of a Miller but the opposite of that.
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@Mharman
Still at work. Let me catch up. It's only a15 minute break
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@Lunatic
literally about to sleep what you want, info? I can give input right now. lynch me if you need to, ill try to be active dp2.
It's not that serious bro.
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@Best.Korea
Which person's opinion says that its best?
God's
Did you ask a woman what she actually wants? No, you didnt!
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Let's be fair here. Most of us would pardon our offspring in the same position.
Yes he is a liar for claiming he wouldn't, but the actual pardon is just him being a dad
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We do need more activity from lu atic so I will jump on that bandwagon as well
VTL Lunatic
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@Owen_T
And of course, these people are going to go to heaven. They got permission from god to do these things, whereas atheists completely deserve eternal torment for keeping an open mind.
Nowhere does the bible say atheists get eternal torment. With multiple wives being a thing and knowing that a society with a lot of single males brings with it a lot of social problems, marrying captive brides seems like a good solution to stabilize society
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@Owen_T
The punishment for rape is paying a fine and then perpetually raping the victim? That is messed up.
If you raped a woman in those days then it made her prospects for marriage impossible and condemned her to a life of poverty. This was the best solution out of a lot of bad options.
Right from the word of god: people=property. Don't tell me that literal god had to bend his command around the acceptance of mortals. He's god. Also, even if you weren't going do condemn slavery, why do you have to validate it?
Slaves are technically property and you weren't going to end slavery with a command back then. However by ordering masters to treat their slaves kindly it made situations better.
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@Shila
Even if they kill bad people? It sounds like you like bad people and would be opposed to ending evil.
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