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@Moozer325
You don’t have to jump to conclusions to try and seems smart.
It's the only thing I have going for me, just allow it
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@Barney
full claim please and then let's ;ynch moozer
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@whiteflame
I guess I could help get claims from Barney and Moozer, but I do not agree with Pie's wish to mass claim, and I am only doing so because it may help others decide to lynch him or moozer.
Unvote VTL Barney
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@Moozer325
I don’t know about “over justice”, but yeah, happiness is happiness. I’ll take pure pleasure over what we have now. I don’t see how that takes away free will.
You don't see how God allowing somebody to choose to become a serial killer would impact the happiness of others?
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@whiteflame
I was on the fence about putting him in the POE or not, but mildly leaned towards not doing it based on the early claim. moozer seems to be doing a lot of buddying and even his hammer sounded like he was being inauthentic. If my theory was proven wrong with moozer and Barney dead than I guess I would have to admit I am imperfect and vote CA, but he is my weakest scum read. If me and you essentially have the same POE, that's a good sign though
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@Earth
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@ILikePie5
Stop claiming, it is retarded. Moozer is last scum. 10% chance it is Barney but a moozer lynch ends the game. whoever is next to post sign ups, get them up and let's finish this.
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Last scum is between Barney and Moozer and it is more likely to be moozer
VTL Moozer
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reading dp1 starting now. right now earth is town
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@ILikePie5
I am actually against full claims in general. We honestly use them too often. I won't be voting for anyone's claim unless they appear guilty and even then I will vote for their lynch not their claim as it is retarded and not neccessary
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@ILikePie5
The depression was not hoover's fault and being a catholic is why his opponent lost.
It's a liberal worldview so essentially your typical taking the fog of war of the era and pretending like you can understand it by applying a couple of modern lenses that even fail in our current era.
It's best to look at history as what happened and leave your "why" to taint your other bullshit.
It's exactly why heroes of the past like Joseph McCarthy are painted as villains today. This narrow idiotic lense
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I was not lurking. I will get around to reading dp1 and commenting here when I get back online tonight.
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@whiteflame
Should've refreshed my page before posting that. I'm going to hold off on pushing for a full claim from you for now based on this, WyIted, but I do want your 20-year span.
too late, but whatever
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@whiteflame
That's fair and I am going to try something new, by being honest. Normally I think this is a situation where it is in town's interest if I lie, but I don't care and am regretting signing up for this because of how little I will be posting this game, compared to others.
I am the 1928 election and am miller
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@Moozer325
See, I don't know. If we just lived in heaven all the time and life was perfect, I wouldn't say there was no free will. I would much prefer a perfect universe than a horrible one because of "free will".
that's because you value hedonism over justice
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@zedvictor4
How can something appear from nothing?
You could also ask, how can something have existed without a beginning. To think the Universe has existed forever or that the big bang came out of nothing is equally difficult to comprehend. Maybe if you make it to heaven you can ask God himself
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@JoeBob
if I saw god with my own eyes, I’d believeuntil then, nothing
Congrats. God is omnipresent and we are built from his imagination. If you look at a tree, God is technically there. If you look in the mirror, God is there. Congrats and welcome to theism. You have seen God just by looking at my words. You are welcome
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@Moozer325
- Why does the Bible have contradictions to itself and modern science
It conveys a deeper truth. Watch Jordan Peterson's lectures on Genesis
- Why does God permit evil if he is all loving
Because to not give us and supernatural entities the capability of evil, is to enslave us. He believes in freewill in many situations.
- Why do so many other people come to different conclusions religiously than Christianity. God should reveal himself equally to people from around the world.
Don't be silly. If a person believes in Islam, doesn't he believe in God? If a person is Hindu, does he not believe in some sort of God? How can you say he hasn't revealed himself when he is revealed in so many different ways to so many people?
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@Stephen
Why did an omnipotent god create anything at all?
For the LULZ
If god wanted Pharaoh to "let his people go" then why did god harden the heart of Pharaoh causing him to be stubborn and refuse to free those that were in so called "bondage"?
He hardened his heart because otherwise the pharoah would have treated the Jews too kindly and they would not have obtained their intended destiny. Sucks to be Egyptian I guess
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@cristo71
Why are so many people born into a life of suffering?
The yaldaboath is naturally an inferior creator to the real God and so his creations usually turn into shit. The spirit of Sophia is in the air, so he can't ruin the world too much, but he is a God in his own right so he is allowed to manage his creation. For now
Why not just skip straight to the wonderful afterlife with God?
It needs to be earned. He is like a computer scientist who runs billions of AI simulations to determine worth. There is also a sense of Justice with the true God, so he is incapable of being unjust. If you are wanting to join God in the afterlife than you must avoid Yaldabaoth, you must also become great in your own right, like Lincoln, Malcolm X, Ghandi or Hitler
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Why isn't Jesus the one running this thread?
He doesn't feel like it.
Now that the one question has been answered. Welcome to christianity brother
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Trump said the states should decide, so his opinion is irrelevant as he is running for a federal position
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@Greyparrot
Guess he couldn't prove P2
I knew he couldn't. I often layout somebody's argument in a syllogism and only those with logical thinking like males and former military, typically think in a logical way and can outline their own logic.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Of course it does genius. Do you need me to mansplain it to you?
This is a formalized version of the argument
P1- trump lowered taxes of corporations
P2-The higher the taxes on corporations, the better off the working class
c1- Trump harmed the working class
support premise 2, I am not interested in challenging premise 1 though I didn't fact check it
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corporations paying less taxes harms people who pay less taxes some how. Trust me.
If we raise the corporate tax rate, that will somehow help middle class Americans. Trust me.
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@Owen_T
He has been around a long time and has posted a lot and has been a very divisive user. You can probably see everything about him in the HOF to get a better feel for who he is
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@FLRW
Why would me being so focused on penises make me look less suitable as a heterosexual partner?
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I am okay with white female refugees between the ages of 18 and 24. This is why I support the war in Ukraine
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@Casey_Risk
Okay I am in. I have 4 days off and if my scum pool is that accurate so soon again than please kill me fast scum team
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@Casey_Risk
I only didn't tag you because I thought you were done with mafia/the site in general. You can play if you want to.
I pretty much am, but I don't want to be the only thing that keeps a mafia game from running, so if it is between me playing or no game than I would prefer to play
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How you can improve this site and what I am doing as I once again go behind the scenes to work on a few things.
What you can DO
1. Do not engage in political threads unless you have critiques of a specific policy. avoid talking about individuals or political movements as a whole unless you have some critique or analysis of some sort of underlying philosophy. Some examples may be criticizing the liberal assumption of people being blank slates at birth and all differences in the outcome being attributable to environmental factors or criticizing the conservative assumption that meritocracy is possible or desirable.
2. Expand the community outward. Start a blog and link to the blog from here and vice versa. By creating that community outside of this site and then infusing them into this site, you expand the number of intelligent people on this site and help build a debate community, that will still exist if this site disappears tomorrow. preferably the overlap with each other, blog, and VLOG communities, means we just need a few people handy at coding with some free time to rebuild this at any point, or if there is no desire to rebuild this, then you have built yourself a bigger network and strengthened your ability to argue your position and persuade by making debate a part of your broader life. If blogging or Vlogging is not your thing than build a twitter presence and start intertwining this community, with the one you build on Twitter, facebook or truth social even.
3. Another thing I used to do when I was on debate.org, is I would come up with a debate topic and reach out to bloggers. I found a conspiracy blogger and challenged them to a debate on whether the Red Cross had occult origins or not. I also remember a time where I challenged one of the local heads of Mothers against Drunk Driving to a debate on whether drunk driving should be legal or not, so if you ever want a good debate and can't find one here than perhaps go seek out some activist organization. Just keep in mind that people who join things like MADD, usually do so because they lost a loved one to drunk driving or had other personal tragedies, so definitely be tactful in challenging people to debates.
What I am Doing
1. I am slowing down and scaling back my participation here. Mafia will likely consist of 1 or 2 high-quality posts on my days off or 7 shit posts that barely contribute on the days I work. I will vote occasionally on debates but not participate much in the forums
2. I want to make a bunch of low-effort content that expands my circle to intertwine it with this site, like I suggested above. The way to do it, from what I can see from others, is have a unique philosophy that can just be repeated over and over and applied to a wide variety of circumstances. Hoe math has 1 philosophy that he quickly creates a ton of videos with by applying it to differing circumstances. His content is like 10 pages of notes. With a simple 10 page philosophy it can be done and then it is a matter of learning how to edit in some minimalistic way among other things and hopefully the content pisses off enough people where they want to come here and debate it.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
why are you a refugee? We don't want you here shitting up our timeline like you shitted up your own. Fix your timeline please and if it works, let us know and I will do the same here
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@ILikePie5
She pretty much tagged everyone but me. I wasn't sure if she forgot or just was not interested in me being in her game, but I din't want her to feel any social pressure to invite me to play if she didn't want me to.
If she is open to it, perhaps I will be down but my effort would be limited to times I am at work and cheking in once a day on days I am not working
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joebob would have been the lynch if the randomizer went anywhere else so same result
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This was pretty obvious from the start and pie fucked us over with the casey lynch followed by the owen lynch.
Also I am very shocked Austin made the right decision, perhaps I underestimated him
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@FLRW
The alternative in their mind is even more disgusting. Perhaps it is a strawman but the effort to transition children, turn the country socialist and thus like Venezuela and the support for things like legalization of heroin and even california basically legalizing pedophilia has hardened their position to the right. The left doesn't really give any push back when you see men beating up women in the boxing ring, instead they all in unison praise them. To get them back on the left they will need to at least get back on the side of common sense.
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@FLRW
I haven't paid any. If this is a referance to Trump's mail order bride than I will not support America turning into Venezuela, merely because Trump fucks good looking women
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@FLRW
HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE & AZITHROMYCIN, taken together, have a real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine. The FDA has moved mountains -
Okay he is talking about some ideals being brain stormed behind the scenes. Who cares?
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@HistoryBuff
ore than 100% of jobs could go to immigrants.
This is him citing studies showing immigrant unemployment being reduced but native born unemployment being the same. So this is already a lie that has been conclusively disproven
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@HistoryBuff
here is your lie
him telling people to inject bleach to fight covid
I prove you are a piece of shit liar and instead of apologizing, you double down on your lies and change it to this
it confirms he did ask if people should inject bleach.
so did he tell people to inject bleach or did he make some wild speculation in the moment?
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@HistoryBuff
There are classic examples like him telling people to inject bleach to fight covid
r asking why they don't use nuclear weapons on hurricanes
That would be a question not a policy proposal but that is also a lie.
But at his recent press event he was saying that more than 100% of job creations went to migrants.
hyperbole stating that changes in migrant unemployment went down while native citizens stayed the same backed by statistical proof. so again you are lying
It also highlights how frequently he lies. If you ever hear him say anything like "people are saying" or "people have told me" you can be sure he is lying.
All the supposed lies you mentioned were debunked in this thread, so I have to wonder. If he is actually a liar, why do people lie about his lies instead of just actually pointing out actual lies he told?
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@AustinL0926
Honestly we are going to lose because you want to delay this one day, but i would rather not have this DP take forever so.............
unvote VTNL
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@IwantRooseveltagain
You are being pedantic. Your link even says normies refer to it as the congressional medal of honor
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@IwantRooseveltagain
In recessions, it’s the working poor who suffer. The rich simply find some bargains in the stock market or buy a couple bank owned properties at a discount.
Yes the stock price of blue chip stocks decreasing effects people who do not own stocks. This is fact
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@IwantRooseveltagain
How is saying that it is preferred to not get shot and killed a stupid thing to say. Would you prefer to be shot and killed to get an award or to get a lesser one and not be shot and killed?
If you think not being dead is a bad thing like trump said. We'll then, you know what to do
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@IwantRooseveltagain
He said the Medal of Freedom was better because you get shot usually when getting the Medal of Honor
Yeah, I would say it's better not to get shot and killed for a lesser award than to have the higher honor but have your children lose you in the process.
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@AustinL0926
If you aren't going to vote for whiteflame I will VTNL, but for the record I think it is a terrible ideal because you will be dead and I will be silenced or visa versa and then it is whiteflame in the ear of CA and nobody there to refute him. I could actually see whiteflame just doing a no show while not silenced because CA could maybe just let the DP die and we will have the game end in a no vote, but by all means if you are not going to vote whiteflame than VTNL so we can progress the game and I will VTNL as well
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This is what this is about here if anyone is curious. It's Trump praising some woman for receiving the Medal of Freedom and correctly calling it the equivalent of the Congressional Medal of Honor. He exclaimed how lucky she was because the troops who get the military equivalent must sacrifice their life and health for the same medal. He acknowledges that the Congressional Medal of Honor is more prestigious. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-medal-of-freedom-equivalent-to-and-better-than-medal-of-honor/ar-AA1oVXuS
The media is of course taking his comments more literally than intended because they are dishonest but you can still get the gist. Also it is called the congressional medal of honor and anyone who was actually in the military and who has served their country would know that https://www.cmohs.org/ The media every time one is awarded prefaces the words medal of honor with the word congressional so anyone bitching about the use of the word is being retarded or unnecessarily pedantic.
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@Shila
UN-backed commission says Israel committed 'war crimes, crimes against humanity' in Gaza since Oct. 7Commission urges Israel to immediately stop its military operations and attacks in Gaza, including Rafah, calling for implementation of ICJ decisions
Did you see the attacks this was a response to? The evil and indiscriminate killing, torture and rape of men, of women, of children?
What do you think the response to that should be?
The only correct response is total eradication of the people who did it. Israel cannot help that these evil people use children as cannon fodder and women as shields.
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Oh shit. I didn't know this. I now am a liberal and support cutting off the penises of gay children, and socialism
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