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@Double_R
Here’s a simple challenge for you: define “woman” in a way that wouldn’t require you to undergo a full medical examination in order to tell whether any given person meets your definition.
This question has to do with gender roles, and how certain gender/sexes portray themselves, and is a topic for a different forum.
But the question still stands:
What is the definition of a Woman?
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@ludofl3x
Data please.
Gladly.
"Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population."
"The possible risks of transmasculine bottom surgery include, but are not limited to, bleeding, infection, poor healing of incisions, hematoma, nerve injury, failure of the transplanted tissues to survive, unsightly scars, exposure of the prosthesis, injury to the urinary tract, abnormal connections between the urethra"
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@TheUnderdog
Isn’t it the same thing? The definition of the Dakotas are North Dakota and South Dakota. There is the tribe Dakota, but that’s not the definition people think of when they think of the Dakotas.
The word Dakota, in the dictionary, means:
"a former territory of the US that was organized in 1889 into the states of North Dakota and South Dakota."
Or
"Native American. From the Native American Dakota language, meaning "friend" or "ally". Also, the name of two States in the US, North Dakota and South Dakota."
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@ludofl3x
So your big concern is that if a transgender person murders someone, and their DNA is present, and they provide a DNA sample while wearing the clothing of the opposite (non-birth) gender, then what, case dismissed? This is why we should tell high school kids if they need to go by he or she? You're just looking out for the victims of murder by transgendered people whose wigs and fake breasts can fool DNA analysis?
.......Do you know about gender reassignment surgery, and the push to be able to change your gender on legal documents?
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@ludofl3x
And for all of those 7000 languages, there are many, many, many words that do not have direct matches in English.
But they at least mean the basic same thing. You can translate a sentence in English to German, and vice versa, yes?
So, we have a common understanding of words.
When you start to change the definitions of words, then that poses worldwide issues.
When investigators have to identify the genders of their victims (assuming, mister language precision, you don't mean the victims of the investigators, but rather the victims of crimes, because your sentence here says victims of investigators)...can they mark "biological sex" down for those who are deceased, and consult the victim themselves if they're alive? What happens?
Are you that dull?
Three letters:
DNA
If all the investigators have is DNA, and they are trying to match it to a suspect, and that suspect identifies as the opposite gender, then it's going to be very difficult to find them, yes?
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@Sidewalker
Why is there so much drama around this, why is it such an obsession, I just don't think it's going to bring civilization to an end if a transvestite wants to be considered a woman, it won't ruin police investigations and the justice system, it won't make the sky fall, and I'm sure that there isn't a transvestite in the world that gives a crap about this kids obsession with it. I'll use whatever pronoun a person prefers, not as a political statement, just as a matter of civility. and apparently the kid doesn't want to, doubt any transvestite will care about this kid.
The reason for this is because gender dysphoria, is a mental illness. Just like other mental illnesses, we are not supposed to affirm that person, because doing so could lead to worse things for that person.
It's like schizophrenia. Schizophrenia patients seek for affirmation as well as gender dysphoria patients. Affirming someone who calls themselves transgender is the same things as going up to a schizophrenic person and saying that the walls are in fact talking to them, if that is their truth.
And if you have a society that is promoting mental illness, then you have a society that is dooming themselves.
No one looks at the big picture in these things. They look at what is optimal now and bubble themselves into a bubble of only right now matters.
What about the generations of kids to come? You are going to have thousands of children getting surgery's that will affect their health, and cause our country's resource gathering ability, and defense ability to crumble.
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@ludofl3x
Trans people generally don't walk around saying things like "Hi, I'd like a tall mocha latter, I'm a trans woman who goes by Pat." Trans women just call themselves women. And again, it doesn't come up as often as you seem to think it does. If you stop worrying about the trans part, and just say man or woman, the trans folks would be just fine. Most of the transgender people who DO use this term are involved in raising awareness and acceptance.
Ok then all Trans women should be not called Trans women. They should be called women, right?
And also no one needs to raise awareness of this. The media, Hollywood, and the whole Democratic party have made it their life goal to push this agenda.
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@ludofl3x
Think of it like an adjective, like "blond" or "tall." If you leave it off, the sentence works just fine, and as a bonus, the person who is in fact a transgender woman might actually appreciate it, you know, feel like you see them as a valid member of the community.
So, the whole purpose of calling yourself Trans, is to say to everyone: Hey I'm special, because I am a man who feels like a woman.
Oh wait, but that still makes them a man.
Trans people preach that they feel completely like the opposite sex/gender, and they want to be affirmed of that, yet remind themselves every day of their femininity or masculinity with that title of Trans.
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@ludofl3x
What problems it causes if the definition changes.
Sure, let's just start changing the definitions of words, because that will work out great in court systems and society.
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@ludofl3x
Humans DO communicate through words...there are currently more than 7,000 sets of unique languages spoken around the world. How many have the exact same word for "woman"? Hm, yet we still seem to function as a species!
Ok smart ass.
Yes, we have many different languages, and different words for woman, but all of those different words mean the same thing. The word Ich in German means the same thing as the word I in English.
The word woman in English should mean the same thing as the word Frau in German.
And is ease of communication really the issue you're worried about? How many times a day do you say the word "woman" when it's not in the context of an argument about how you want to know what everyone's got in their pants?
Oh, I don't know, how about, when doctors have to identify the sex/gender of their patients, or when investigators have to identify the sex/gender of their victims.
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Chiefs just won the SB by the way, so is it still racism?
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@zedvictor4
So for sure, a woman is not a rock.
Glad we can agree on this lol.
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@Sidewalker
OK, and what is your point?
Challenge was for LGBTQ+ community.
If they agree with my definition, then everything they preach is contradictory.
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@Greyparrot
True.
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@Greyparrot
Exactly lol.
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You don’t think that huh? Well that’s because you are clueless and uneducated.And being large doesn’t help with racism other than racists will likely be afraid to voice their racist thoughts to the big black guy.
Well, I would think that if a 6'4 228 lb. black guy was walking down the street and a white guy called him a n***** then he could handle himself.
Or he could huddle into a corner and call himself oppressed. Either way works.
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No dummy, you’re not getting it. The black guy could afford it, he couldn’t buy a house because either no real estate agent would sell to him or no bank would give him a mortgage - because he was black.
Are you trolling?
Where does it say, because he was black?
I know plenty of white guys who can't get a good real estate agent.
Also in 1965, as a famous NFL linebacker, I don't think you would have a racism problem with that kind of stuff.
Keep in mind, this dude was 6'4 and 228 lb.'s.
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Guess what?
White people can't afford houses either.
You do know that white males, in high school are doomed, because it would take a miracle for us to get into a good college nowadays.
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Imagine paying for your information, when you could just go to google instead.
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@Sidewalker
For the future of civilization, let's all pray that tonight we can make it through the National Anthem without incident, our lives depend on it.
Lol
Good one.
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@Greyparrot
The mere fact people use the term "trans" by definition is not a woman.
EXACTLY.
If Trans-women, are in fact women, then why put the word trans in front of it?
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This has nothing to do with grammar or spelling or anything like that. You need to be thinking in terms of medical science and biology. Does the medical community believe that a human being with male genitalia and organs can be a woman in other ways that are just as important as the physical.
Well biological men can never "be" women in any way shape or form.
Physically: No
Mentally: No
Emotionally: Maybe
There are feminine men, and masculine women, but that doesn't make one gender switchable.
Genes, brain, hormones, psychology, etc…
Genes: No
Brains: No
Hormones: No
psychologically: Maybe
I’m sure at one time you thought depression was just people who chose to be sad. Now we know chemical imbalances in the brain and body cause people to be depressed. Children who suffer trauma or other adverse childhood experiences have physical and mental changes to their bodies as a result.
My view on depression is simple.
Before we had dopamine rushes coming at us from all different angles:
TV
Phones
Fast Food
Pornography
Drugs
Etc.
Tell me, before all of that, how many people were depressed?
This generation is depressed more than any other, because we have too much dopamine intake.
Ha, so we can’t use a “human that is not a man” as a definition but female is fair game. That’s beautiful.What is a female?
Yes......because female is actually naming something, and "human that is not a man" is not naming anything.
Why do you have to say, "human that is not a man" and not just female, because after all, it is the biological definition.
As for your question:
Female: "of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) which can be fertilized by male gametes:"
Oxford Dictionary.
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@Sidewalker
Your up kid. Define the word woman without using the word woman.
Gladly.
Woman: A biological adult human female.
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But of course people can't even agree on basic English grammar, for the fear it might offend someone.
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Is anyone able to define the word woman for me?
It's a super simple question.
This forum should of ended with one post.
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A human being that is not a man.
You cant define something by naming things it's not.
Don't tell me what a woman is not. Define the word woman.
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@zedvictor4
YouFound_Lxam Simple challenge:Define the word woman without using the word woman.zedvictor4 wrote: Not a man.Not hard to answer is it, Vic.
Well, if your answer is not a man, then I could say that a rock is considered a woman.
Anything that is not a man is a woman?
Because that is literally everything in the entire universe, besides men.
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So.........let me get this straight.
You don't like Republicans.
And the majority of Republicans are Pro-guns.
But when DeSantis decides to have an event without any guns.
You still make fun of him?
You really have nothing else to do with your time, do you?
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Simple challenge:
Define the word woman without using the word woman.
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@TheUnderdog
It’s like defining the Dakotas as North Dakota and South Dakota.
Well do you want the actual definition of the word Dakota, or the deffinition of the two states of Dakota.
As long as I can define what the word Dakota is, then I can use North and South Dakota, to define: Dakota's.
It's the same thing as saying:
Define states for me.
I could name off all the states and it would be valid.
But if you were to ask me what is a state, then I would have to provide a more detailed deffinition.
So if your asking how to define the two states of Dakota, then I would say:
It is two states in the USA, with the names: North Dakota, and South Dakota.
Define a female.
"of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) which can be fertilized by male gametes:"
Oxford Dictionary.
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@ludofl3x
Please explain why this is a problem and what are the "worse" problems it could really lead to, though. Language changes so much over time, and society still seems to function. If we decide that the word "woman" is something that someone applies to themselves, rather than one that society requires, what exactly happens?
Humans communicate through words.
Words have destinct deffinitions.
If we can't agree on deffinitions.
Then we are going to have a harder time communicating.
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@BrotherD.Thomas
You know that no one takes you seriously right?
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@Intelligence_06
Crime is crime regardless of who is doing it.
But this is a hate crime, based on eye witnesses, that heard and saw the man yelling racial slurs, and also yelling white supremacy.
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Is Marjorie Taylor Greene a woman? She is transgender and she is beloved my many Republican idiots.
Uhhhhh......did you even google search, or did you just pull a name out of a hat?
She is very anti-trans.
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@ludofl3x
Can you help me understand why "definition of a woman" is such an important thing to you personally and apparently to society as a whole? What happens if you have a definition that doesn't match with current usage, let's say. What happens (a) in your life and (b) in society that we should all be contemplating our gender definitions as much as you apparently are?
Because society runs on language.
Language has words and words have meanings/definitions.
When someone is trying to change the definition of one of the most simple words in the english language, then yea, that is a problem, and could lead to a lot more worse ones.
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@Skipper_Sr
Not originally...
Yea, they do the world a big favor just walking around and eating/sleeping.
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Yes yes, it’s all a commie socialist plot. The real socialism was all that Federal money that went to Columbus, Ohio to get their economy going.What a waste that socialism was.Due to great need, the City of Columbus committed an additional $410,000 to the Right to Recover program serving people who lose income due to COVID-19 and who commit to isolate in their homes for 14 days to lessen the spread of the virus.Governor DeWine Announces CARES Act Funding to Support Small Businesses, Nonprofits, and Ohioans Impacted by COVID-19
...............oh, so your pro socialism. That explains a lot.
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@3RU7AL
This video = two adults getting offended by history once again.
Even though they didn't live through that time period and didn't experience any of the hardships they are complaining about.
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I think it was right to ban Witch.
She did not debate.
The majority of the time, she complained, instead of providing actual arguments.
And most of her responses if you look at her history, is just foul language with no articulate meaning.
She was not interested in the heart of this site, and therefore I think it was a right decision to give her a timeout.
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@TheUnderdog
I’m saying your definition isn’t good. If it was acceptable to define with a list, I could define woman as the billions of women that are on this planet.I define a woman as anyone that is a cis woman or trans woman. You don’t have to define the smaller terms to define the bigger term, just like you don’t have to define North America to define the Americas.
My definition of a woman is not good?
How is:
A Biological Adult Human Female, not good?
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Try to convince me this is the white dude's fault, you liberals.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Well, in that case, look through IwantRooseveltagian's topics and claims, as I might recall him saying certain things along those lines.
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@PREZ-HILTON
So, saying:
1. Whites smell bad (followed by no evidence)
2. Blacks are ugly so society would be prettier
3. It's easier than deporting then all
4. White people should not be considered human (followed by zero arguments as to why
5. God has said to destroy their seed (followed by zero bible verses)
Would also be considered against the code of conduct?
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@PREZ-HILTON
Question:
Would the topic : 5 reasons Black people should be sterilized
Be considered hate speech.
Not that I would ever make that a topic, but just for clarification, since the topic 5 reasons White people should be sterilized, is considered ok.
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@BigBuffMan
And you are still making this tired old argument? How about you give some sources and facts instead of pulling this out of no where? Trans men ARE men and trans women ARE women. If you had passed highschool social studies and not working a mcdonalds job at 14 you would have known that and I wouldn't be arguing with a brick wall right now.
Ok then.
Why do you have to put the word trans in front of it?
If Trans men are really men, then why do you have to add the word Trans to it? Wouldn't you just call them men? Same question with Trans women.
No there are people with more than 2 chromosomes. Genetics is complex and you cannot possibly comprehend it with you 8th grade knowledge.Also you do realise 0.5% of 8 billion people is still a lot?
Well, it's actually more like 0.018% but hey, who's counting?
And if you do the "8th" grade math, then that would come out to:
1,440,000 people, which granted, is a lot, but is still way less than most states in the U.S.
So, comparing that to the whole world population is insane.
Even with this argument, it proves no purpose to the trans argument, because to be transgender, means to transition from one gender to another, not be born with different characteristics.
You're comparing a mutation, to humans having the ability to change their biological sex.
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@ludofl3x
Could god change this condition that makes him so sad that he tortures the people he never gets mad at?
God does not torture. Sin tortures. Again, God isn't doing any of these things. Man is doing it to ourselves.
Can god have good without bad?
Yes. But then there is the inability to choose bad, which takes away free will from us humans.
People didn't make hell, though, right? Nor did we set up the conditions that sentence people to it, right? WITHOUT believing in god, which one can I get into, heaven, or hell?
Sin created hell.
Man fell into sin by our own accords. So God doesn't send people to hell.
Think about it like this:
There is a cliff, and everyone is blindly walking off the cliff, but there is someone at the edge of the cliff, that is reaching his hand out, trying to catch people, and the only way to save yourself, is to reach out and grab there hand.
God gives us a way out of what we have done to ourselves.
Please answer this question directly: does god know if you are good or bad, on the whole, before he creates you, or is he surprised?
He knows before. He knows everything that has, is, and will happen.
You keep saying "free will" but have not yet demonstrated it can exist in a universe where god knows everything, is responsible for all things, and has seen all of time. Let's look at an example: Judas Iscariot. Did he deserve what he got in the end (a grisly death and a name synonymous with treachery)?
Free will can exist when God knows everything.
Your overthinking what I am saying to you.
God knows everything right?
But in the end, God gave us the choice to choose.
Just because God knows what we are going to do, doesn't mean he predestined it for us. We still chose that ourselves.
When someone drops a bomb, you already know whats going to happen. Destruction in some way shape or form.
That doesn't mean that you caused that to happen, does it?
You keep saying "free will" but have not yet demonstrated it can exist in a universe where god knows everything, is responsible for all things, and has seen all of time. Let's look at an example: Judas Iscariot. Did he deserve what he got in the end (a grisly death and a name synonymous with treachery)?
As for Judas, he chose to kill himself. God didn't kill him. He killed himself.
Both him and Simon/Peter rejected God, but the difference is that Peter repented. Judas drowned in depression for what he did, and instead of doing the right thing, and asking for God's forgiveness, he killed himself in selfishness.
Suicide is selfish.
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@ludofl3x
So, he created us in the only way he could (again, here sin is more powerful than god, unless he COULD make us without sin, and chose not to...but then that makes him something else entirely). He put humans together wired in such a way that there is NO WAY for us not to fall short of his standard. It's a feature, not a bug, in other words. When they do, he manages to get mad about it.
God never gets mad at the people. His anger is directed at sin, that consumes the people. He is sad for us as humans, when we choose to run away from him.
And your conflicting "his standard" with entering into the kingdom of God. His plan for us, doesn't = passage into heaven, because if that were the case, then no one would be in heaven, because no one is perfect except Jesus.
As for sin, if you think about it intellectually, you can't have good without bad right?
If you just have good, you have the inability to choose bad, therefore, no free will.
If you just have bad, you have the inability to choose good, therefore, no free will.
So, in order for us to choose God, you have to have the ability to sin.
In order to have free will, you have to have the ability to do bad and do good.
Interesting. So to you, true love comes with an "or else" component. "Love me, or it's into the torture chamber for you." That's not true love. That's just extortion. In this case, people are the victims, and god is an emotionally needy tyrant baby.
God doesn't send people to hell. We send ourselves to hell.
So if this is what he wants to begin with, to party with all mankind in heaven, why is earth (or sin) necessary, do you think? It seems like you believe god has a goal in mind. Is that fair to say?
To separate the good from the bad. Free will.
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@ludofl3x
Ok, so he knew, while creating us, that we would sin. Did he also know it would make him mad? More importantly, could we have been created without sin as a possibility, do you think? Or was that beyond god's power? Does god know SPECIFICALLY what sins you'd commit before you're born?
This question is boxing God into a human mind.
God is not human, he created humans, so God knew that humans would disobey him.
He couldn't have created us without sin, because then we wouldn't have free will.
God wanted true love. You can't have true love without that person willingly loving you by their own accords.
God could have created us in heaven, but that would have forced us to be good, because no evil exists in heaven.
God had to give us a choice between him and sin, in order for us to truly love him. So, sin was necessary.
So if his plan doesn't include me departing from his plan, then he doesn't know everything, right?
He knows what you will do, but that doesn't mean that he doesn't have a plan for you. You can write down a strategy even after the war.
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@Greyparrot
Well Hollywood is/ and has always been a cult. Now it's just showing itself in the open
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@ludofl3x
He made us with free will, so he DIDN'T know who would or wouldn't follow his teachings, is that right?
He did. You're still misunderstanding.
He knew what we would do before he even created us. But what do you want God to do about that? Stop us from sinning? That would just be taking away our free will.
So then he has no plan for each person, right?
He has a plan for each person, doesn't mean we have to follow that plan though. Following God and having faith in him will lead you to places you can't even imagine, but that doesn't mean that God is forcing everyone to follow his plan for them.
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