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@Dr.Franklin
"Whatever their beliefs, the Founders came from similar religious backgrounds. Most were Protestants. The largest number were raised in the three largest Christian traditions of colonial America—Anglicanism (as in the cases of John Jay, George Washington, and Edward Rutledge), Presbyterianism (as in the cases of Richard Stockton and the Rev. John Witherspoon), and Congregationalism (as in the cases of John Adams and Samuel Adams). Other Protestant groups included the Society of Friends (Quakers), the Lutherans, and the Dutch Reformed. Three Founders—Charles Carroll and Daniel Carroll of Maryland and Thomas Fitzsimmons of Pennsylvania—were of Roman Catholic heritage."
Most of them weren't Christian yes, but most of them were Deists, meaning they believed in a higher being.
and many of them were fond of the barbaric revolution in France
How do you know this?
This has set America on the course of liberal destruction.
Then I ask you, how has America gone from the lowest part of the British empire to the most powerful and successful country in the world in just the span of 245 years.
I mean countries like China, and India have been around for much longer, but we are still the most powerful, and successful? That means was doing something right.
And the USA was founded on Judeo-Christian values:
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There’s a flaw starting with the very first line- “Donald Trump had an unprecedented economic boom”. The man never cracked 3% GDP growth even with 8 trillion in deficit spending - which is part of GDP.
Our third quarter growth was the fastest on recorded in data, going all the way back to 1947. Now how is that a flaw?
“Before the China Virus invaded our shores, we built the world’s most prosperous economy” That is a blatant lie.
How? He did have the world's best economy at that time before the corona virus hit the U.S.
That is a lie. And most of the tax cut went to corporations and the wealthy.
How can you say that it is a lie, then go on saying that it just went to the wealthy and corporations. You just denied it being true then confirmed it was true.
And then I should ask you, which corporations specifically.
Your article literally proves that he did.
It is, however, the biggest corporate tax cut in US history.
Are you stupid?
No, I am not. I am just informed.
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Yes, conditions detected in prenatal screening can be fatal or carry a profoundly poor prognosis. For example, half of the babies born with anencephaly will not survive birth and the other half die within hours or days. A chromosomal condition such as trisomy 13 or trisomy 18 can result in a baby with a short lifespan; 90 percent of babies with either of these conditions do not survive past one year old and are frequently afflicted with health problems and medical interventions throughout their lives.
So just because a baby will not survive for long, doesn't give you the right to kill it. There have been babies born with extreme conditions, and the doctors telling the parents that the baby won't live. But sometimes they are wrong. Why should we kill the baby and not consider the possibility of that outcome.
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there are certainly circumstances where an abortion is necessary to save the mother's life, how is denying abortion in that instance "pro-life" if it causes death?
While there are rare cases of the pregnancy being fatal and yes that is a very horrible thing to of happened, again I bring you back to bad sexual decisions. If a woman knows that if she gets pregnant, it could cause her to die, then that is her decision to get pregnant and face that risk. There are examinations you can have, and ways to know that if you get pregnant, then you could possibly die.
I think that having a child is a very big decision, and people should be extra prepared before making a decision to have a baby.
And as far as bad sexual decisions, there are very cheap and easy ways to use protection while having sex.
Condoms are a big example of this.
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@Best.Korea
....Dude.
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@Best.Korea
Where is your intelligence?
I have shown you again and again, yet you have yet to even listen to any of my claims, you just wait for your turn to talk.
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and from the outside looking in, men can't really know the situation well enough to weigh the different aspects of such a decision.
Yes, they can. They don't know the physical aspects of it, but if woman decides to make a bad sexual decision, and she gets pregnant, then she does not have the right to get an abortion. You don't just get to kill a child because it's to your own benefit. I wouldn't consider that a thing that only women understand.
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I would. Best leader in the world, leading the politics with surreal ability in weapons.
Best. Korea, again you have proved your intelligence in this topic very low.
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@Best.Korea
He is still the dear leader of Korea.
I wouldn't call him dear.
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@Elliott
We evolved as a tribal species with feelings of empathy for the members within our group,
I do want to point this out to you as it proves what I am saying.
Why did we evolve with empathy, and not murderous intent. What force made us like this and not the other way around.
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Miscarriage is generally defined as the loss of a pregnancy before viability. An estimated 23 million miscarriages occur every year worldwide, translating to 44 pregnancy losses each minute. Doesn't this prove that God is pro-abortion?
Well miscarriage isn't abortion. Miscarriage is when a baby dies during the pregnancy, not purposefully killed. An abortion is when a baby is killed.
Abortion: "the deliberate termination of a human pregnancy, most often performed during the first 28 weeks of pregnancy."
Miscarriage: "the expulsion of a fetus from the womb before it is able to survive independently, especially spontaneously or as the result of accident."
Doesn't this prove that God is pro-abortion?
If you're going to argue against a Christian, that every death is caused by God, you have a whole other thing coming for you.
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If you didn't want people to give thier opinion, then you probably shouldn't have said, "I am pro-life how about you?"
I never said that people shouldn't give their opinion, in fact I encouraged it by saying, "I am pro-life how about you?"
You are actually the one who didn't want people to give their opinion by saying, "There is no instance where it is ok at all, for men to try to tell a woman what she can do with her own body." by saying this, you are saying that men don't have an opinion in the abortion issue.
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That's not my call, and it isn't yours either.
Yes, it is. If your argument is women birth baby's therefore, babies right to live is only decided by women, then that is morally and objectively wrong.
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I would say that is ok to abort a baby up to birth. It cannot feel pain until it is conscious. It is only reacting to stimulation.
So, let me get this straight, you're thinking is:
A baby is in the womb and will be born into a living breathing human in a couple of months. It is okay to kill the baby if you don't wish to have them in your life.
Well, if you agree with that logic, then you should agree with this too:
An adult human is in a coma and will wake up from the coma in a couple of months. It is okay to kill the adult if you don't wish to have them in your life.
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@Sidewalker
I don't know, answer this question. Question one: What caused the supernatural being
Proving gods' existence is harder said and done. I will admit that you have made a really good point, yet it doesn't make me change my mind.
Taking what you said, and thinking about it, my evidence and claims have only disproven the scientists that claim thing just came to be. The only thing that I have proven, is that some other force, or some other being exists that created everything that we know of today.
Proving gods' existence is a much harder argument to argue, and I should have changed my forum title to Disproving Scientists Claims about the origins of the Universe.
Thank you for actually having an intellectual argument with me, and this just proves that unlike some people, I actually pay attention to people's arguments and work off of it.
You have proven the argument I am making impossible with the evidence that I have. But I am sure with time and resources I will be able to prove gods' existence.
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@BrotherD.Thomas
Thank you for your concern.
Though I don't appreciate the yelling, I will answer your question.
Listen up pseudo-christian fool, the BIG BANG was only approximately 6000 years ago if you are using the JUDEO-Christian Bible as a foundation of Christianity and your faith, which as a pseudo-christian you cannot deny in the first place, understood? Huh?
First off, why do you assume that I am pseudo-Chistian? I never stated that I am, and in fact said the opposite. I am a Non-Denominational Christian. Get your facts right before you start spewing out lies.
Secondly, I do believe in science, and the timeframe of the big bang is supported in the bible.
2 Peter 3:8-9 NIV states," But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead, he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance."
Then in Genisis 1:3 it states," God said, “Let there be light!” So there was light. 4 God saw that the light was beautiful. He separated the light from the darkness, 5 calling the light “day,” and the darkness “night.” The twilight and the dawn were day one. 6 Then God said, “Let there be a canopy between bodies of water, separating bodies of water from bodies of water!” 7 So God made a canopy that separated the water beneath the canopy from the water above it. And that is what happened: 8 God called the canopy “sky.” The twilight and the dawn were the second day. 9 Then God said, “Let the water beneath the sky come together into one area, and let dry ground appear!” And that is what happened: 10 God called the dry ground “land,” and he called the water that had come together “oceans.” And God saw how good it was. 11 Then God said, “Let vegetation sprout all over the earth, including seed-bearing plants and fruit trees, each kind containing its own seed!” And that is what happened: 12 Vegetation sprouted all over the earth, including seed-bearing plants and fruit trees, each kind containing its own seed. And God saw that it was good. 13 The twilight and the dawn were the third day. 14 Then God said, “Let there be lights across the sky to distinguish day from night, to act as signs for seasons, days, and years, 15 to serve as lights in the sky, and to shine on the earth!” And that is what happened: 16 God fashioned two great lights—the larger light to shine during the day and the smaller light to shine during the night—as well as stars. 17 God placed them in space to shine on the earth, 18 to differentiate between day and night, and to distinguish light from darkness. And God saw how good it was. 19 The twilight and the dawn were the fourth day. 20 Then God said, “Let the oceans swarm with living creatures, and let flying creatures soar above the earth throughout the sky!” 21 So God created every kind of magnificent marine creature, every kind of living marine crawler with which the waters swarmed, and every kind of flying creature. And God saw how good it was. 22 God blessed them by saying, “Be fruitful, multiply, and fill the oceans. Let the birds multiply throughout the earth!” 23 The twilight and the dawn were the fifth day. 24 Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth each kind of living creature, each kind of livestock and crawling thing, and each kind of earth’s animals!” And that is what happened: 25 God made each kind of the earth’s animals, along with every kind of livestock and crawling thing. And God saw how good it was. 26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, to be like us. Let them be masters over the fish in the ocean, the birds that fly, the livestock, everything that crawls on the earth, and over the earth itself!” 27 So God created mankind in his own image; in his own image God created them; he created them male and female. 28 God blessed the humans by saying to them, “Be fruitful, multiply, fill the earth, and subdue it! Be masters over the fish in the ocean, the birds that fly, and every living thing that crawls on the earth!” 29 God also told them, “Look! I have given you every seed-bearing plant that grows throughout the earth, along with every tree that grows seed-bearing fruit. They will produce your food. 30 I have given all green plants as food for every wild animal of the earth, every bird that flies, and to every living thing that crawls on the earth.” And that is what happened. 31 Now God saw all that he had made, and indeed, it was very good! The twilight and the dawn were the sixth day."
Genisis 2:1 state," With this the heavens and the earth were completed, including all of their vast array. 2 By the seventh day God had completed the work he had been doing, so on the seventh day he stopped working on everything that he had done. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on its God stopped working on everything that he had been creating.
Genesis 2:1-3"
I only use the bible for evidence in this case, because you quoted from the bible as well.
You don't have to believe the 7 days of creation are literal 7 days to be a Christian. I believe that given 2 Peter 3:8-9 NIV states," But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day." that for God, it was 7 days, but for the human interpretation of it, science explains what it looked like for us. God created all of it, but we witnessed it in a different way than he did.
If you are going to
Bible Slap you Silly
Then I suggest you to your research and ask your questions before you spew off in a fit of rage.
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Leftist source
Leftist source
"This month, it emerged that the FBI was investigating Trump for his wrongful possession of classified U.S. documents, including items allegedly related to the U.S.’s nuclear arsenal."
"allegedly"
"While modern Hebrew scholars may disagree about why “amen” ends our prayers, it was a lesson for me that I have kept in mind ever since."
Denying Hebrew scholars, a sign of misinformation?
Denver Riggleman is neither a democrat nor republican. He moved away from crazy stances with the republican party, but also said," Former Republican Rep.
(Va.) said he cut an ad for a Democratic congresswoman because he is unable to support “facts-challenged individuals” running in elections."
A quote from this article," DONALD TRUMP IS a murderous cult leader who incited the mob that attacked the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021, hoping that his supporters would kill his own vice president, Mike Pence, and as many members of Congress as possible so that he could become a dictator."
Misinformation much? You really think that Donald trump did that, even though I just proved that he didn't a comment earlier?
And for the final time, I ask you to take a fact from this source: https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/trump-administration-accomplishments/
And find a flaw in the facts.
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Here's a question for you:
At what point does a baby in the womb become living, and morally wrong to kill.
Answer that question then we can move on from there.
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Also, If anyone would like to challenge me to a debate about this topic, I will happily accept.
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If you can answer that question, then we can move on to the other points.
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You used Trump as a source for how well he performed as President, which only makes the point of the article.
It's the white house archives on the trump administration.
Again, I ask you to disprove anything in that article.
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There is no instance where it is ok at all, for men to try to tell a woman what she can do with her own body.
It's not the woman's body, it's another living human in her body, so she doesn't have the right to kill a human baby just because she doesn't feel like having it.
Abortion is none of my business,
Then why are you arguing on this forum?
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Ok, let's start from my first standpoint, the Big Bang.
"The Big Bang Theory is the leading explanation for how the universe began. Simply put, it says the universe as we know it started with an infinitely hot and dense single point that inflated and stretched — first at unimaginable speeds, and then at a more measurable rate — over the next 13.7 billion years to the still-expanding cosmos that we know today."
Let's start with this argument and then we can work our way up to the others.
"Around 13.7 billion years ago, everything in the entire universe was condensed in an infinitesimally small singularity, a point of infinite denseness and heat. Suddenly, an explosive expansion began, ballooning our universe outwards faster than the speed of light. This was a period of cosmic inflation that lasted mere fractions of a second — about 10^-32 of a second, according to physicist Alan Guth’s 1980 theory that changed the way we think about the Big Bang forever."
They don't explain how, "Suddenly, an explosive expansion began...". They just state that it happened. No scientist to this day has factual evidence of where that mass of energy came to be, and why it suddenly exploded.
If you truly believe the Big Bang was purely based in science, then answer this question.
Question one: What caused the "infinitely hot and dense single point that inflated and stretched"
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But behind that, we all know that the country is highly dysfunctional.
I agree with this to a point. The government is very dysfunctional as of right now and it is very corrupt. What my argument is, is that even though America has its flaws, it is still the most successful and powerful country in the world.
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@TWS1405
Ok, let me ask you a question.
At what point is the baby, living in the womb.
What stipulates life, or more so, important life.
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@Sidewalker
Of course, you would use the insider as a source.
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@zedvictor4
Well, I already stated my argument, so make yours.
Thats what you wanted right?
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Ok obviously you have no evidence, and you are just name calling at this point, so I know my evidence is right, and you can just believe what you want to. Because the left only listens to their made-up misinformation just to feed into what the media tells them.
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@Stephen
Ok I'll explain my reasons.
1: The Singularity
Many scientists today call use the term singularity to represent what they believe to be the big bang. Now before I go any further, I just want to point out that I do agree with science, and in fact it does prove gods' existence.
Ok back to the singularity.
We hear from scientists that the singularity, means something that popped into existence from nothing. If nothing existed at the start of time, then nothing would be here now. It is impossible for something to pop into existence from nothing. The only way for something to come into existence from nothing, is if something, or someone puts it there.
The big bang defiantly did happen, but God is the one who ignited the match.
2: Design Has to Have a Designer
When you see the various aspects of nature, like birds, dogs, trees, and all of nature itself, and all of the specific roles they play you have to wonder how they got like that. We as humans try to copy nature sometimes with the way that we use technology, aerodynamics etc.
We see parts of our body that are some of the most advanced things we know of like for instance, the brain. We try to copy and mimic those things by making fake arms and computers and things like that, but we never even get close to a direct copy.
Now this all goes back to the question; well, where does design originate? We'll let me give you an example:
If you have all the parts of a watch in a box, and they aren't put together, you could shake that box forever, but you would never get a watch. Now the human brain for example is way more advanced than a watch, so do you really think that life was just created like that, all shaken up?
3. What Created Life?
Scientists use the term Law of Biogenesis to explain how life works. The way it is explained, is like this:
Law of Biogenesis: "In this material, natural world, life comes from previously existing life of its own kind.
Now scientist nowadays say well, life actually comes from random chemicals and elements. Yet every biological experiment we have done with chemicals and elements, has not produced life or any actual signs of life at all.
So, if life didn't arise from non-living chemicals, then how did life arise? The only explanation is a supernatural being.
4. Moral Law
If some things are objectively morally wrong, and some things are objectively morally right, then there must be a God.
We don't say that when a dog stole a bone from another dog, that dog broke a moral, law no we don't. But we do when it comes to humans. So, at what point did moral law become important.
5. Human Reasoning
We humans have the nature to reason, and to wonder why things exist, why we exist, and that's why we have science. Why are we the only species that does this? Animals don't wonder why they exist, they just do? What gave us that need to find out? God did that's who.
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So this guy was impeached not once but twice, he was not re-elected to a second term and you are calling him amazing.
So, his first impeachment were allegations, nothing proved. Second impeachment was not his fault.
I don't really think you realize how far the left has gone when it comes to the media. They have used it for a political tool and have spread misinformation everywhere.
If you go on a website and see people saying something, I suggest you look at where they got that data. If they can't provide data, probably misinformation.
you are calling him amazing.
No, I said his administration and him did a great job running the country the way they did. Now I ask you this:
Would you rather have Biden win this next election or Trump?
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Trump White House
Again, it is the White House's take on the Trump administration.
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Ya or you are really just an idiot.
Again, name calling.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Did you read the article from Politico? It is not especially favorable to Trump
Well, they are non-biased, and they said that trump did a lot of good things. Yes, not all of his decisions were good, but overall, he was an amazing president.
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Now of course I'm not saying that Trump is an amazing person, of course not. I disagree with a lot of his moral stand points, and I don't think he should have decided to run for president in 2024. You don't have to like him to look at the facts and see that he did an amazing job as a president.
Yes, he hurt a lot of people's feelings, but guess what? Facts don't care about your feelings.
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Yet I haven't seen one shred of evidence from you.
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One way to know that you're winning an argument, is when the opponent starts getting heated and starts name-calling.
I have stayed calm and collective. I have stood confidentially with my sources. And I am confident with my argument.
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Have you ever worn a mask and you could smell things? Well, those are the food partials (outside your mask) entering your nose (inside your mask).JC you are an idiot.
Umm.....well now your just name calling.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
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JC you insist on using non-political sources for information then you cite what is basically a press release from the Trump White House.
No, it's the White House archives on Trumps accomplishments. I mean, I can find the same source for Obama.
Also, if that's not enough for you, then go onto that website, and disprove one of those things just one.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
I mean you could scroll down that website for about an hour, just reading all of his accomplishments, and most of them being things like "all time high" and "best ever in history".
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Oh, and some more stuff he did.
- An October 2020 Gallup survey found 56 percent of Americans said they were better off during a pandemic than four years prior.
- During the third quarter of 2020, the economy grew at a rate of 33.1 percent – the most rapid GDP growth ever recorded.
- Since coronavirus lockdowns ended, the economy has added back over 12 million jobs, more than half the jobs lost.
- Jobs have been recovered 23 times faster than the previous administration’s recovery.
- Unemployment fell to 6.7 percent in December, from a pandemic peak of 14.7 percent in April – beating expectations of well over 10 percent unemployment through the end of 2020.
- Under the previous administration, it took 49 months for the unemployment rate to fall from 10 percent to under 7 percent compared to just 3 months for the Trump Administration.
- Since April, the Hispanic unemployment rate has fallen by 9.6 percent, Asian-American unemployment by 8.6 percent, and Black American unemployment by 6.8 percent.
- 80 percent of small businesses are now open, up from just 53 percent in April.
- Small business confidence hit a new high.
- Homebuilder confidence reached an all-time high, and home sales hit their highest reading since December 2006.
- Manufacturing optimism nearly doubled.
- Household net worth rose $7.4 trillion in Q2 2020 to $112 trillion, an all-time high.
- Home prices hit an all-time record high.
- The United States rejected crippling lockdowns that crush the economy and inflict countless public health harms and instead safely reopened its economy.
- Business confidence is higher in America than in any other G7 or European Union country.
- Stabilized America’s financial markets with the establishment of a number of Treasury Department supported facilities at the Federal Reserve.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
- America gained 7 million new jobs – more than three times government experts’ projections.
- Middle-Class family income increased nearly $6,000 – more than five times the gains during the entire previous administration.
- The unemployment rate reached 3.5 percent, the lowest in a half-century.
- Achieved 40 months in a row with more job openings than job-hirings.
- More Americans reported being employed than ever before – nearly 160 million.
- Jobless claims hit a nearly 50-year low.
- The number of people claiming unemployment insurance as a share of the population hit its lowest on record.
- Incomes rose in every single metro area in the United States for the first time in nearly 3 decades.
- Unemployment rates for African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, Native Americans, veterans, individuals with disabilities, and those without a high school diploma all reached record lows.
- Unemployment for women hit its lowest rate in nearly 70 years.
- Lifted nearly 7 million people off of food stamps.
- Poverty rates for African Americans and Hispanic Americans reached record lows.
- Income inequality fell for two straight years, and by the largest amount in over a decade.
- The bottom 50 percent of American households saw a 40 percent increase in net worth.
- Wages rose fastest for low-income and blue collar workers – a 16 percent pay increase.
- African American homeownership increased from 41.7 percent to 46.4 percent.
- Created more than 1.2 million manufacturing and construction jobs.
- Put in place policies to bring back supply chains from overseas.
- Small business optimism broke a 35-year old record in 2018.
- The DOW closed above 20,000 for the first time in 2017 and topped 30,000 in 2020.
- The S&P 500 and NASDAQ have repeatedly notched record highs.
- Signed an Executive Order on Modernizing the Regulatory Framework for Agricultural Biotechnology Products, which is bringing innovative new technologies to market in American farming and agriculture.
- Strengthened America’s rural economy by investing over $1.3 billion through the Agriculture Department’s Reconnect Program to bring high-speed broadband infrastructure to rural America.
Ya knows, just a couple of things he did. Including having the best economy in over 60 years.
"Unemployment rates for African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, Native Americans, veterans, individuals with disabilities, and those without a high school diploma all reached record lows."
Now I really like this one, because this just shows how much of a non-racist he is.
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Well, I mean there are a lot of ways I can prove his existence. But I was hoping someone else would put in why they don't believe it so I can disprove their argument.
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@Yassine
The US has +700 abroad military bases in the world, China has 1. The US today spends 4 times as much as China in Military per respective GDP.
You're just proving my point even more.
You got none. Zero. Just poetic nostalgia, which is sad.
I have evidence and resources. You have none.
Where is your factual claim? I can't see it.
Then your blind.
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@RationalMadman
Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't specify.
Jesus. Yahweh. Christianity.
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There are many ways to prove gods' existence, and the ones who try to disprove I can use their arguments against them.
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@K_Michael
No, you misunderstand what I said, I said that in some cultures, bad things have happened.
Then I said that the basic biological principle of two genders has been around for longer than humanity.
Culture and humanity two different things.
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Abortion just makes me sick, and a lot of people don't realize how sickening it really is. There is no instance where abortion is ok at all. I am pro-life how about you?
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You need a source on what? That he said Obama wasn’t born in this country? That he added 8 trillion to the National debt? That 1 million Americans died of Covid? That he incited an insurrection that we all watched on TV?
I have to do everything for you don't I.
Ok Trump was wrong about Obama, big deal.
Yes, he added 8 trillion, but he still had the BEST economy in 60 years. Obama added 8.6 trillion to the national debt. Thats not a point.
1 million Americans died of covid yes. But doctors counted car crash victims who had covid and were unaware as a covid death. So that number is probably way lower. Plus, what could trump done better, force everyone to wear masks, and shut our society down. That would take Americas freedom away. Also, it has been proven that masks do nothing to fight covid. Have you ever worn a mask and you could smell things? Well, those are the food partials (outside your mask) entering your nose (inside your mask).
He did not incite an insurrection. If you watched his whole speech, he said and I quote," I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."
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