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Define a Woman Liberals.
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@Double_R
What’s yours?
A biological adult human female. 

We have gone over this. 
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@oromagi
  • Lxam's persistent but worthless contortions in search of distinction come from a lack of generosity of spirit.  Let's recall that Lxam began this effort six weeks ago with the stated purpose of "exterminating transgenderism."  I don't find that purpose compatible with any American or Christian outlook although it is one of the core missions that Republicans have been assigned by their masters these days.  Scapegoats are good for getting bad people to vote.
I did not state "exterminated transgenderism." 
I stated that we must exterminate and eradicate the ideology of Transgenderism. 

Now note, this does not mean that I am saying the condition of gender dysphoria does not exist. It certainly does. What I am saying is that the idea that a man can become a woman and vice versa, and that we should accept that as fact should be eradicated, and exterminated from the public square. At the very least be condemned because it is indeed not biological fact. 

We can talk about how people feel all day and that would be a different discussion entirely. But when you propose that when the person with gender dysphoria feels as if they are the opposite sex, and we are supposed to respect that, that is where the problem starts. 
When someone truly believes something to be real that is fundamentally false by every aspect of human nature and life, that is called delusion. 

I will not respect someone's delusion. 

 Seems to me that there are many social constructs that we can't define concretely....
Give me one social construct that we cannot tie to some form of reality. 


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@oromagi
Thank you. 
Good definitions by the way. 


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Normal people agree on this. Crazy people don't.
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@TWS1405_2
A heart beat. 

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Normal people agree on this. Crazy people don't.
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@TWS1405_2
A heart beat doesn't define life? 
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Define a Woman Liberals.
I want the definition of the word woman. 

I do not want an explanation of why you can't provide one, or anything else like that.
It is a simple request. 

Just put:
Woman-Definition
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Democrats want Trump to run.
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@Double_R
The other problem here is that the leading alternative is Ron Desantis. While I do not share the opinion of many on the left that Desantis would be worse than Trump because he’s more competent, I have grown more concerned about how dangerous he is overall to the point where I don’t think he’s that far off.

So at this point, if it were Desantis and Trump I would root for Trump because I believe Desantis would have a much greater chance of winning in the general. If Desantis was no longer the leading challenger I would root for any republican regardless of how likely I thought they were to win because no one else in the field comes close to Trump - the risk just wouldn’t be worth it.
Though we have different political sides on the issue, I 100% agree with your observation. 
Desantis has a lot going for him. He is growing in popularity. He is doing a great job in Florida. He is implementing republican values, and he is not Trump.

Desantis is dangerous to the democratic party, and if republicans can get their act together, I think we have a good shot for Desantis as a candidate. 


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Democrats want Trump to run.
CNN puts Trump on air, and gives him a republican audience. Why?
Firstly, they want to boost their viewership, which they were successful in. 
Secondly, I think that the democrats want Trump to run.

They will deny this claim, but think about it.
What is Joe Biden running on in 2024? His main running campain (which was shown in his campain ad) is simply that he is better than Trump.
The media, and Joe Biden cannot thrive without a so called "bad guy". Otherwise all they would have to show is their policy, which is not a good look for them.

In my opinion, the Democrats want Trump to run, so that Joe Biden has a chance against Trump, and a good one at that.
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@ebuc
Feelings ergo emotions are real. People do make many decissions based feelings, emotion, heart, that all stem from our environmental set of circumstances.
Yes............I know. I agree. What I am saying is that it is usually a bad idea for people to make decisions based upon feelings and emotion. 

People say to themselves, I think I can afford this or that, even tho many of us know, tha,t some large percentage of people and governental debit is way more than we should feel secure/comfortable with.
Yep. And that is not a smart decision. 

People drive too fast, and some times take chances, that, on considerate review later, was a dicey move, even they felt they could make it at the time, and 9 times out of 10 do make fine.  As long as the other driver{s} does do the unexpected and through a monkey wrench into our risk taking
Again, not a smart decision.

Do we feel like taking a small, or large wager, on this bet or another, for what ever reasons, we feel may feel  justified to so some perecentage of time.

Yesterday there was greater percentage of rain chances in our area and it did not rain. Today there was last chances and we got three moderate and relatively short rain events and I had feelings about what is best bet for me on each day, based on perecentages.

Today I feel hungry and go to store and buy more than I really needed or could afford this week. Today I feel happy and choose to go shopping cause I feel so good, or go to river boating etc.

This is why budgeting, staying on a consistent diet, and taking care of yourself is important. It might not be what you feel like doing but it will be better for you in the long run.


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@n8nrgim
dont you think this lesson about disney is applicable to many other areas too? that maybe having gun free zones is often, if not usually, a better situation to be in?
Not every single place is going to hold a big National popularity and going to be owned by different companies. 
Also, I think we can learn something. 

Maybe adding more security to more vulnerable places in our communities, that way the urge to go and shoot people is lessened.
The Tennessee shooter moved school locations, because the original targeted school had security. 

Why do we get security for our business buildings, and company buildings, and not schools? 
Why do elected officials get security, but not kids? 

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Blacks far more likely to commit crimes against Whites and Hispanics than the inverse
we get it: you hate black people.   
Lol, this is so Democrats.

Conservatives: Gives a detailed layout of a problem, and explains why this is and what solutions to provide.
Democrates: "racist" 
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Everyone should be forced to help people. Then we can finally live in Communism like we deserved.
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@Best.Korea
Forcing people to "help" others, is going to lead to many scams, government control, and things that can lead to an authoritarian state. Not a good one. 

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@ebuc
Then your confused, as all feelings are emotion, and emotion stems from occupied space chemical reactions in molecules of our bodies, that, react to words, images, sounds, touch, etc. Do you understand
Ahhhh, well this is where we fundamentally disagree.
But this is not a religion forum so I will leave it for sometime else.

We cannot deny others feelings, and that does not make their, or our feelings, any less real.
Don't get me wrong, I am not saying feelings are not real. I am only saying that feelings cannot be the basis of our everyday decisions, and the basis of our reality.
Emotions is how you feel, and if you made every decision in life based on how you feel, then you wouldn't get anything done. 
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@n8nrgim
Many reasons why Disney has less murders while still being a gun free zone.

1. It's Disney, and their isn't really any motivation for anyone to kill anyone else in Disney.
2. It's full of people at all times, and is hard to kill anyone without getting caught.
3. Their is by far way more security than a downtown street in a city with strict gun laws or no gun laws. This unmotivates killers.




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@ebuc
I do not understand why this LGBTQ community uses intersex, and hermaphrodites to argue their points.
I see it as a completely different issue to identifying as something you are not, or trying to change your biological makeup.

Also I am confused as to why some people claim that intersex is the third sex. 
Sex is binary. You can either impregnant, or get pregnant. Intersex condition is not a new sex with its own independent organs and ways of reproducing, it is a combination of some male parts, and some female parts, that were confused during the construction of the individual. 

however, their exist men who feel that the are more likened to woman and vice versa for woman feels more likened to being a  man. 
Feel is the primary word here.  
This is in fact the exact thing I am arguing.
This identity war is basing everything off of feelings and not reality. And not just by a small margin, but a big illogical leap of delusion. 



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@oromagi
No, I don't.  I've never said anything of the kind.  That's your delusion.
Really?
"Funny how only the straight white think they've fixed their mistakes of the past."
You not only said something of that kind, but you literally said that.

 All I'm saying is that you haven't fixed as many of the problems of the past as you seem to think.  Your "extermination" approach to Feminism certainly makes me think you'd have no problem burning witches.
When did this turn into Feminism. No one said anything about it.

 I didn't try anything.  I just read to you from  standard dictionaries and textbooks and you refused to believe science.  I'll repeat the central point that you dodged:  The burden of proof is on you to show that trans people are assaulting America and worthy of your programs of eradication.  Your desperate mental anguish caused by the fact that some trans men menstruate simply does not rise to a genocidable offense.
I did believe science. What science did you provide that I refused to believe? Science doesn't have entirely everything to do with the definition of ideology though, so I don't know where you are going with that claim on this forum. 

  • Ideas are not ideologies.  I repeat again that its not that there is no ideology behind the whole sexual identity thing, its just that the ideology you are talking about is  properly called Feminism by people who have gone to college.
Ideology: a system of ideas and ideals, especially one which forms the basis of economic or political theory and policy.

Ideas can create ideology's. There is indeed a transgender ideology. It is the ideology or idea that men, can become women, women can become men, men can menstruate, and men can become pregnant. This ideology tries to push this idea into public policy and political theory.

Every time I say this ideology claims men can get pregnant, or men can menstruate, you rebuttal it by saying things like," No, actually we only say trans-men can sometimes get pregnant and menstruate. My question is what is the difference?
Aren't trans-men = men? 
Aren't trans-women = women?

If they are, then your side is indeed claiming that men can get pregnant and menstruate.
If that claim is false, then you side is stating that trans-men are not men, and trans-women are not women. 

  •  while allowing local school adminstrators (not fat white GOP governors looking for a vote from the bigots) to make exceptions wherever unfair phsyical advantages or increased risk of injury might undermine competition.
So basically you don't support men in sports, because it is always a physical advantage to be a man in women's sports. 

Do you get out much?
I think you will find most all of real women agree with the statements I have made especially women who are in sports. 
Wonder what mentally delusional men you are talking with. 
  • A 2021 Ipsos poll found that 77% of American women believe that transgender people should be protected from discrimination, while 15% disagreed.
  • A 2019 NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll found that 69% of American women believed that transgender people should be allowed to use the bathroom that corresponds to their gender identity, while 25% disagreed.
  • A 2021 PRRI survey found that 60% of American women believe that transgender people should be allowed to serve in the military, while 31% disagreed.
Like I said:
Real women. There isn't a lot of them nowadays in America. 

  • A nice, conscise presentation of the feminist distinction between sex and gender.  You offer this an example of the unacceptable radicalism you intend to "exterminate" right?    Honestly, they kicked your ass with facts and never laid a single expectation on you, personally.    You are angry at science, not Feminism.
In my debate against Bella3sp I used science to my advantage, when talking about intersex. 
Instead of rebutting it in their final argument, they decided to say something along the lines of," Lets get back on topic." Which was a good idea, because we were getting off track. 

So if anything I used science to my own advantage. Science true science not maybes and could be's, agrees with me. 

  • That is exactly what psychopaths do.  You do understand we are talking about reality as is not as should be, don't you?
Exactly. Psychopaths' try and define their own reality. That usually doesn't end well for them, because they tend to not make good decisions. 

  • Prove it
See the tree in the forest. That exists. It objectively exists, whether you like it to or not. 
Everything in reality exists in reality and we are all affected by it in some way or another. It is objectively real. 

As the FBI says, domestic terrorism by white males is the single greatest security threat to America. 
Tells you something about our FBI doesn't it? 

  •  White male rage over losing domination, particulary Southern Whites over black people fueled Trump's presidency and the current rise in gun violence as well as the attempted fraud/failed coup of the 2020 election.  It's all about white boys losing control.
  • It is racist and it is also true.
So you are a racist. 
You also give into southern people stereotypes' that generally are not true. Sometimes they are though, I will give you that.
But if your so mad at old white men, then why do you support Joe Biden? He even said to the new minority worker in the White House these exact words:
"Hush up boy." In full southern accent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FXrg3-6v7M
But he's not racist either right? 

You are probably one of the most racist people on this website (I have yet to meet a more racist person).

So quit your doomsday whining about the future of the US.
It's usually the most advanced society's that tend to plumet when met with a damaging idea or practice. 
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So let me get this straight. 

The reason the suicide rate in the Trans-community is so high, is because society is not tolerant enough for them, but also the reason that the Trans-population has rose up so quick is because they now feel like they can come out because society is more tolerant?

Which is it?
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@Double_R
It's not complicated to see when someone is suffering from mental illness, and the government as well as the media is pushing for this mental illness to weaken the people and gain control, without the people realizing that they are secretly and slowly being dragged into a slave like state, but even when they finally make it to that state they won't realize that they are slaves, and will continue to give the government more and more control over their lives until the people who are slaves are dead.

Just calling it out ya know.
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@oromagi
Funny how only the straight white think they've fixed their mistakes of the past.
This is exactly what I am talking about, when I say flawed logic. 

You think that me white male should have to pay for the sins of people who looked like me, who did bad things more than at least 100 years ago. 
But I didn't commit any of these unmoral sinful acts. I didn't make any mistakes in the past. Other people did. 

If this is your logic, then black people should have reparations for the millions murdered in Africa by black people. But no, it's only when it fits your narrative. 
Same with feminism. 

Every argument you've presented on this site has been demonstrated to be a lie. 
False. 
I have literally made a forum explaining the problems with Transgender ideology, and those arguments held a lot of ground.
You being you, did not even attempt to rebuttal the argument, and instead tried to explain to me that Transgender ideology, doesn't exist. 

It can only go one of two ways:
1. Transgender ideology exists, and anyone can become the opposite gender.
2. Transgender ideology doesn't exist and only people diagnosed with real gender dysphoria are transgender. 

Which is it? 

That's not a right I recognize when the birth gender confers a significant compettive advantage. I support the Biden Adiminstration's ban on broad discrimination in school sports while allowing local school adminstrators (not fat white GOP governors looking for a vote from the bigots) to make exceptions wherever unfair phsyical advantages or increased risk of injury might undermine competition.
So, you support the Biden Administration trying to allow biological males, who have an extremely biological advantage over women, to compete against women in sports. It doesn't honestly matter if you are LGBTQ+ or not, the fact is that biological males have a physical advantage over women, and in physical sports, whoever has more strength physically will most likely win. 

You said," That's not a right I recognize when the birth gender confers a significant compettive advantage."
So, you are not respecting women's rights???
I guess that wraps up your logic.

  • But the majority of women don't agree with your bigotry and ignorance, do they?
Do you get out much?
I think you will find most all of real women agree with the statements I have made especially women who are in sports. 
Wonder what mentally delusional men you are talking with. 

Also, the claim that Queer rights simply emerged from Feminism is a lie as well.

You really love to cut off quotes to make it seem like something else don't you? 
I'll help you out:
"Also, the claim that Queer rights simply emerged from Feminism is a lie as well. The emergence of Queer rights was never exactly pinpointed. Feminism was a brainstorm of where the Queer rights movement could have emerged from, but only one out of many.
There was also post-structuralist theory, radical movements of people of color, the gay and lesbian movements, AIDS activism, and not surprisingly many sexual subcultural practices such as sadomasochism, and postcolonialism."

The CIA  has advised Americans that TikTok is Chinese spyware. Loyal Americans should get rid of TikTok ASAP.
I agree. Finally, something we can agree on. 
Also, just for clarification, I don't have TikTok either, I just have seen these TikTok videos via YouTube. 

  • I generally don't accept the opinion of anonymous posters as sincere:  many poster are simply trying our arguments/ position.  I did flip throught Bella's debates and forum posts and couldn't find one mention of the word cisgender.

But the reality is that people are using this logic to define their own reality's whether you like it or not. 
  • Everybody defines their own reality:  white boys do not get to control.
First of all, no. No one gets to define their own reality. If you get to define your own reality, then you also get to define your own moral principles, and what is right and wrong in this reality.

So, psychopaths would be able to define their own morals as "murdering people is good."
There is an objective reality. Whether you like it or not. Everyone lives in it. Not everyone likes it. 

Second of all:
"white boys do not get to control."

I always love to do this when someone refers to my race. Just a quick idea of what it would look like if you were talking about another race:
"black boys do not get to control." 
Pretty racist stuff huh? 

It is a fact that some trans men menstruate.
Yes. Trans-men. Not men. 
Trans-men = Biological woman
Trans-woman = Biological man

So, for clarification, biological men cannot menstruate, but biological woman can. 

  • Nobody is trying to alter your fragile reality- you can call men who mensturate trans or non-binary without doing any damage to your definition of men.
It's not my reality bud. It's everyone's reality. Yours too. 
Also, yes it can do a lot of damage. 

, YOU are the one making demands on other to change
No, I am not. 
Again:
We didn't give porn to 3rd graders.
We didn't show kids illegal drag stripper. performances.
We didn't try to chemically castrate kids with the same drugs we give to pedophiles.
We didn't try to normalize pedophiles by calling them MAPs.
We didn't try to ruin women's opportunity's by letting men compete in their sports. 
We didn't try to sexualize kids at a young age. 

 You are a white boy born in the wealthiest, freeest, most comfortble society in the history of mankind at its peak in terms of global influence, peace and power.  
Yes. What does this prove? 

AS A STATEMENT of ABSOLUTE FACT:  you are sittting in the top 1% of comfort and privilege found across all human history.
Yep. So is most of American citizens. Not all, but most.

Most humans would happily give up an arm or a leg to live a life as nice as you have it.   NOBODY in history has had to struggle less than you.
You're saying this like I am rich. I am most definitely not.

My family has been through poverty. As a child I had one meal a day. Lentil soup. One bowl. We didn't have a car when I was a child. My mother didn't work, and my father made just enough to keep us under a 2-bedroom house. We didn't have TV, and the only phone in the house was my mom's. I lived with many other siblings (not going into detail) and lived in a rougher neighborhood than most.
As a teenager now, my life has improved, because of the hard work of my father, but I still don't get the advantages most of my friends. do.
I have to pay for almost everything. I have to pay for my own clothes, my own phone, my own car, and anything else I want or need that my parents can't afford. I make 8.25 an hour 3 days a week for 6 hours per day. Not a lot of money for all of that. 
Yet still when I move out, I get no money from my family. I will be starting at the bottom of the social ladder in America.
Now of course there are people in the world who have, and still do have it 100% worse than I do, even at the bottom of the social ladder in America, but that is what pushes me to work hard. The fact that I have money, a car, friends etc. 
Working hard does not mean you have to be in the worst place a human has ever been. There will always be people worse off than you. That doesn't mean you don't have it hard or you're not working hard. 

Think of how for thousands of years, trans people couldn't express their non-conformity without risking rapid imprisonment and death.
I imagine we would fine diary's or even some sort of writing describing these feelings of people maybe going to war, who think they will die already, or people who are sentenced to death, or even secret diaries. 

We would have seen this struggle in some way shape or form, but we don't. Again, people back then were too busy trying to survive and take care of a family to worry about "how they feel on the inside".

  • Right.  You insist that a 56 year old gay man can't possibly know about the gay community than a 16 year straight boy.  You can't even hear your arrogance, can you?
Well apparently, you don't give the conversations I have held with you.

  • False.  I was raised in a Roman Catholic, very conservative community founded by Spiro Agnew.    Trust me when I say what you conservatism today bears no resemblance to the Americans conservatism of twenty or thirty years ago.  Republicans have become Fascists very much in the fashion of 1930's Germany- autocrats hunting for scapegoats to exterminate.
Don't want to go there. 
If you're trying to compare Nazis to a certain political party in America, then Democrats would be first in line.

Who had control of media in Nazi Germany?
Who has control of the media now in America? 

  • Nobody does.
Look up "Gender Queer".

  • Rudy Giuliani, anybody?  Drag performances used to be a staple of prime tv,
Even some Drag Queens themselves have testified that Drag is not for kids and is adult entertainment. 

You know about the history of Drag? Very sexist. 

  • Nobody does
It is literally a part of Gender reassignment surgery and puberty blockers. 

  • That's good Psychiatric Science.  Donald Trump, for example, is not a pedophile but he has been famously open about his attraction to minors.
Donald Trump is just your panic button, isn't he? 
Also are you defending the term MAPs?

  • I don't think that was the intent of the trans teen athletes and I think you are kind of evil if you thinks that was their intent.
Men who can't even make it into the top 500 of their own sport suddenly become women and win first place? 
This idea used to be a comedy sketch for comedians. Now it is real. 

Objectively and as a matter of history...
I am talking about sexualization not rape. 
Also, that is false. 
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@ludofl3x
Ideology affects culture. Culture affects society. 
A destructive ideology affects culture, and a destructive culture affects society. 

I live in society and don't want to live in a destructive society.

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@Sidewalker
Nope, that isn’t what cisgender means, and it isn’thow the word is used.
Yes it is. The term "cisgender" is how LGBTQ individuals identify straight individuals regardless of how much they deny that name. 
A straight person means someone who likes or is attracted to the opposite sex.
The way in which you guys explain what cisgender means bends reality. I am not going to give into that. 

The way in which you guys explain cisgender, is "someone who identifies with the gender they were assigned at birth". 
First off, the idea that people are assigned gender at birth is idiotic. A doctors doesn't just choose a gender at random and assign you to that gender. The doctor, as well as any other person, looks at your genitals and based on how they look, recognized that they are either a boy or a girl. They even do this before birth. 

The doctor doesn't assign anything, he/she notices something. 

Second of all, if cisgender is a gender, and male and female is a gender, then does that mean that there is gender within gender? 
Your logic doesn't make sense. 

The rest of what you said was denial, which I guess is typical for a troll. 
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@oromagi
  • We don't.
Denial is not going to change anything. You call anyone who doesn't agree with you perception of reality as homophobic, transphobic, and a Right-Wing Nazi that is trying to destroy the democracy. 

  • Fuck you.  I'll match my respect for women against the entire history of straight men's respect for women.  Queer rights emerged from Feminisim and speaking very generally, Queer people are many times more respectful of women then straight men, generally.
The mistakes and sins of ancestors do not associate with the people today. No person in America today has had to suffer what minorities and women had to suffer before we fixed the mistakes. This is what you guys do. You can't find a good argument against us, so you resort to blaming us for what our ancestors did. When the LGBTQ+ community is claiming that biological men should have the right to compete in women's sports that is infringing on the rights of women, that is disrespecting women, and is one of the most sexist modern pushes that I have heard of today in America.

Even just the claim that a man can become a woman is sexist, disrespectful to women, and just a straight up lie. 

Also, the claim that Queer rights simply emerged from Feminism is a lie as well. The emergence of Queer rights was never exactly pinpointed. Feminism was a brainstorm of where the Queer rights movement could have emerged from, but only one out of many.
There was also post-structuralist theory, radical movements of people of color, the gay and lesbian movements, AIDS activism, and not surprisingly many sexual subcultural practices such as sadomasochism, and postcolonialism.

I have never met a queer person who expects any straight to accept the term cisgender.
Bella3sp is one of these people. Not to call them out in a rude way, but these people do exist. 

Also, it is not hard to go on Tic Tock and see all of these LGBTQ+ activists claiming this as well. The information and data are there, but I am guessing you being you, you will just deny it as most do. 

 Thinking back over thousands of experience, every queer person I've ever known has been 100% fine with straight people identifying as "straight."  
You have met thousands of queer people individually? Well first of all, that must be an exaggeration, because in order to at least meet just 1000 people personally you would have to meet about 3 people per day, every day for one whole year. And that is just about a thousand, but thousands

And in order for your argument to make since, you would have to of met these people personally and not just give them a quick "Hi!". 
But the reality is that people are using this logic to define their own reality's whether you like it or not. 

  • False.  Give me three specific examples of LGBTQ+ community  claiming that.
"A lot of this pushback involves willfully ignoring a biological fact: that trans men, non-binary people and people of literally all genders can menstruate, and many do."
"When transgender model and activist Kenny Ethan Jones experienced his first period, he faced both physical and psychological pain."

"I have lots to say about this, but I simply commented that some dudes do get periods. Because they do. That’s a fact."

That enough for you?

Are you coming out as mind-reader?  No.  Well, sorry to burst your bubble but there is only one reality that you can know the truth of and yes, your reality (quite obviously, in your case) is deeply rooted in your feelings.
My reality is based..........in reality. 
I don't like the reality of some situations I am put in.
I don't like the reality of our economy.
I don't like the reality of the U.S. future.
I don't like the reality of the struggle I am going to have to go through to climb the ladder of society.

But I still have to face this reality, and I don't get to live in fantasy land and pretend everything is ok. That is what mentally ill people do when they can't comprehend or deal with something.

Any claim you make to understand the reality of others is a fucking lie, a religious claim that the US Consititution me from.
First of all, it is not a lie. From what I have learned from debating you especially is that you don't understand you own community. You are too busy trying to find ways to attack the other side, that you haven't even got the chance to look back at the fire in your own community. Everyone on this website has at least a hundred of examples, and pieces of evidence that prove what you are saying doesn't exist does, and you still can't accept that reality because of your own bias and ego. 

Also, a thick thing to say from someone who won't even attempt to try to understand other points of view like religion or conservatism, and just tries to call it all the bad names the media has equipped you with. 

You have no justification for threatening me with war or "eradication"
I have not threatened anyone in any way. I don't think you understand that we didn't start this culture war. 
We didn't give porn to 3rd graders.
We didn't show kids illegal drag stripper. performances.
We didn't try to chemically castrate kids with the same drugs we give to pedophiles.
We didn't try to normalize pedophiles by calling them MAPs.
We didn't try to ruin women's opportunity's by letting men compete in their sports. 
We didn't try to sexualize kids at a young age. 

But the moment we finally step in and say enough is enough, we can't let you do this, you call it a threat. 
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@Sidewalker
The people don't scare me. 
The delusion they buy into so easily scares me. 

Could lead us into a 1984 type of situation. 
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So let me get this straight.

The LGBTQ+ community refers to people who are strait, as cisgender. This is a brand-new term, not entirely agreed upon by all people. 
My question is why.  Why does the LGBTQ+ community expect us to give in to all of their labels, definitions, and perceptions of reality, while they go out, and disrespect women, and people who don't want to be called cisgender.

Their logic is, if a transgender woman, doesn't want to be called a man, we should respect that, but if a strait person doesn't want to be called cisgender, then that is a form of homophobia, or transphobia. 

This is where I have come to realize that the LGBTQ+ community not only has stopped promoting equality for all, but have started promoting in the changing of definitions, labels, and perceptions of reality. They claim, "our definitions are right and anyone who says otherwise are the crazy ones, because they are the ones who are not accepting reality for what it really is." 

Whether you like it or not, reality is not based upon how people feel. It is how people are. Reality is the key word here. Facts do not care about your feelings.

I am not a spokesperson for anything, any group, or anyone. I am just a 16-year-old kid trying to understand, debate and argue against the logic of these people, with no influence but my own. But this is why I believe that every person, whether that be Republicans, Democrats, or Libertarians, need to fight against this logic, and not let it pass our wall of reality and take over. This is no longer a debate of ideology's and who is the better person.

This is a culture war. The two sides? Reality, and Delusion. 
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Should women dress properly?
Everyone that is defending the idea that how women dress, does not correlate to the danger they put themselves in from men are going out of their way to defend something that should be common sense. 

Most men are attracted to women. Almost all rapists who are men are also attracted to women. 
It is common sense to know that if a woman dresses in a way that is exposing, then men will more likely be attracted to her. 

Also it is just common decency. Women should dress properly, because showing off your breasts, genitals, and a** is not appropriate for women to do. 
Every time you see a woman on the street, just know that she was once someone's little girl. Do you really think that father would want their daughter to dress in that way?

If you say that as a father you would be fine with your daughter dressing in an inappropriate manner, then you either have never had a child, or you do not love your child enough to want to protect them.

Now of course it wouldn't be a good idea to force women to dress a certain way, that is just wrong, but to encourage it especially in households, schools, and places of work, is the best course of action, but you can't force that either. 

It is the culture that needs to change. That is exactly why we are in a culture war. 
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  • On Balance, Feminism as a Whole has Done More Harm than Good
I can be Pro or Con. 

I will be Con.

It's not what I agree with, but I kind of want to test the waters a bit. 


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Another mass shooting in a Red State. Crime in Republican areas is out of control
It's out of control in red states?

Look at Chicago, California, Los Angelis, New York, etc. 

There are many crime cases that you haven't touched on in these areas, that are way worse. 
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@ebuc
Then why is it in the citys with the least amount of guns in the U.S. there is some of the most gun violence, and violent crime? 
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@n8nrgim
"so you think if this guy didn't have a gun, that he would have 1. first of all attempted to kill all those people 2. he would have been successful killing all those people?"

you didn't answer the question. see above. please answer. you think if he had a knife, he would have attempted to kill them all, and that he would have been successful? 

the point, is that people are more likely to murder others if they have a gun versus if they have other weapons. people are impulsive and a gun is a push a button response that other weopons aren't like that. 
Ok, your question makes no sence.

Obviously, he would have been at a disadvantage if he didn't have a gun, but the intent is still there. 

You can't possibly conclude that if someone has a gun, that makes them want to kill people more. That is insane logic. 
If I really wanted to kill someone, I would find a way to do it, gun or not. Guns just make it easier, but not make me want to kill someone more. It's the finger that pulls the trigger, not the gun. 

people are impulsive and a gun is a push a button response that other weopons aren't like that. 
Ok, that is why we teach kids, self-control. 
Duh. 


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Dude..............it's a tiny piece of skin. 

If this is a big deal, you should hear about ear piercings. 
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Not sure what "close to a child's age" means, did you have significant sexual experience before and after? If not how can you know? I assume it isn't a great loss while urinating.
It doesn't affect me in any way. Also, I don't consider sexual experience to be fundamental to living a healthy and fulfilling life.
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The debt ceiling crisis is fast approaching. Red States should punish Biden.
Lol, none of your statements make any sense.
Sorry for my language, but:
How in the f***ing h** are you this f***ing stupid. 
Like legitimatly.

Do you not see any effects in prices at all for any products? 
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The testimony of someone who lost their foreskin involuntarily or through some medical necessity would be the only kind I would give full credence to.
I lost mine when I was close to a child's age, by my parents. 
It doesn't affect me, and I think it is completely normal. It's not really that big of a deal. 


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@n8nrgim
so you think if this guy didn't have a gun, that he would have 1. first of attempted to kill all those people 2. he would have been successful killing all those people?

people who think the presence of guns makes no difference in murder rate, lack critical thinking skills. 
First of all, you don't know the exact context of what happened.
Also, people who are good citizens can still do bad things. 

It's probably his fault. This man is definitely probably at fault. He made a bad choice with his gun, that he legally owned, and is being charged for that. 
That is how the law works.
 
I would also like to point out that the person who wasn't killed in this scenario was invited to the White House. Mainly because he was black. Now don't get me wrong, this person went through something awful, but the White House? 

Did the White House invite the families of the kids who died in Uvalde or Tennessee? Why not them, and this person instead? 

The main reason why guns are not the problem, is because of the fact that there are more guns in the U.S than people. There are approximately, 334,692,929 living in the United States. The number of guns is approximately 434,000,000. The fact that our country is one of, if not the most powerful, and stable country in the world, with that many guns being owned by the people, proves that guns aren't the problem for gun violence. It is the people who choose to break the law, or the violent people who are the problem. So, if anything, these rise in mass shootings, and normal shootings prove that there is a rise in bad people or violent people in the United States today. 
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I don't think it is that big of a deal. It doesn't really affect people who are circumcised. 

If you don't, it's fine. If you do, it's fine. 
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@Sidewalker
So you admit that it's just wishful thinking, you have no solution, you are just whining.
No, I am saying that there are these problems, and we need to stop these problems. Are all American citizens whining when they vote for certain laws to pass? 

You mean a totalitarian government does it.
When the hell did I ever say that? 



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@Sidewalker
The problem is people are doing the things you listed, and your solution is to imagine that they aren;t doing these things?  That's the plan?  OK, but how do you implement this amazing plan, magic?  Wishful thinking?   Totalitarianism perhaps?
I am not a politician, so I don't know the exact steps that go into making these things happen. You asked what should be done about it, and I told you what we should do about it. However, the government does it, I don't care, as long as it gets done. 
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If there were less guns, there would be less mass-shootings ergo, less of the terrorism scare, that folks like Timothy McVeigh, Una-bomber, serial murders and rapist inflict on our psychic well being. Regulating guns is just one part of complex problem that requires many avenues of consideration. Ex help of mentally ill, and society where all are feel they are respected.
Let's say that I am a criminal, and I am about to shoot up a school. I know that most likely I won't be able to get out of the situation either alive or in prison. 
If I found out that guns were illegal, would that stop me from committing an illegal act? I would be going to jail or dying anyways, so I wouldn't stop because of another law. And what make it even better, is that no law-abiding citizens are going to stop me from committing the most about of damage because they don't have guns to defend themselves. Police response most likely won't be super-fast, and I can still cause a significant amount of damage. 

People who are addicted to illegal drugs know it's illegal, but they do it anyways. Why? Because they know that it doesn't matter if they get caught or not, because they want the high anyways. 

In the Tennessee school shooting, if there was an armed guard in front of that school, those kids would be alive right now. 
That is the solution we need. 
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This is why I am Pro-Guns.

It was a right only for people participating in Well Regulated Militias. It says why they offered this right in the text of the 2A. The country also didn’t have, and didn’t want a standing Federal army at the time this was written.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

So if you are not in a well regulated militia, you are shit out of luck

The Constitution also counted black slaves as 3/5ths of a person for the purposes of representation and taxation. Times change genius.
If this were true, then blacks couldn't own guns, and people wouldn't be able to own guns in the U.S. 
That is simply not true, and you are an idiot. 
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@Sidewalker
We have asked again and again, what are you proposing as a solution?  You do not answer the question.  You aren't arguing for anything but intolerance and bigotry, you are simply hatemongering, with the only apparent goal to be recruitment, spreading fear, resentment, and hatred.  Is that about it?  That's all we see, there is nothing of substance to your argument, just bigoted rants...

...or do you propose a solution, given full authority, how do you resolve the so called "problem"?  You said the transgender "ideology will bring about the end of civilization, are you just saying we can save the world if we all just hated more, is that what you are going for? 

Tell us what you want to do about it, solve the problem, save us from the fall of civilization, what's the plan? 
If you have been paying attention, I have already answered this question in this foreum.

My answer is simple. Don't promote this ideology in schools. Don't promote this ideology in legislation. Don't promote this ideology to kids. Don't let men go into women's bathrooms. Don't let men play in women's sports.

That will help abundantly. That way, if you want to live your life that way, you can, but you still have to abide by reality.
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This is why I am Pro-Guns.
The United States Constitution grants citizens the right to bear arms.
Despite the many controversies surrounding guns, there are many reasons why citizens should be allowed to own guns.

Reasons:

1. Self-defense: One of the most compelling reasons to own a gun is for self-defense. In a dangerous world where crime is a reality, citizens need to protect themselves and their families. Guns can level the playing field, providing ordinary people with the means to defend themselves against criminals.

2: Protection against government tyranny:  Owning guns gives citizens the ability to resist if necessary. While the government is not currently oppressive, history has shown that governments can become tyrannical, and citizens need to be able to defend themselves if that were to happen.

3. Hunting and recreational shooting: Many people enjoy hunting and recreational shooting. For them, owning guns is a way of life. These activities can also provide a source of food for families, which can be especially important in remote areas.

4. Mental health: Gun ownership can have a positive impact on mental health. Shooting can be a stress-relieving activity, and responsible gun ownership can provide a sense of empowerment and control. 

5. Second Amendment: The Second Amendment is a fundamental right enshrined in the United States Constitution. Any attempt to limit or remove that right would be an attack on the very principles of the US constitution.

Now some might say things like:

Gun violence is a serious issue in the US.
Mass shootings happen all the time.
Regulation is not good enough. 

However, gun violence is not caused by legal gun ownership, but by criminals who use guns illegally. The focus should be on addressing the root causes of crime, such as poverty and mental illness, rather than on limiting the rights of law-abiding citizens. Limiting gun ownership will not solve the problem. Instead, we need to address the underlying issues that lead to mass shootings and such. 

Now, I will say, while citizens should be allowed to own guns, there is a need for regulation.
Laws should be in place to ensure that guns are used safely and responsibly. Background checks can also help to ensure that guns do not end up in the wrong hands.
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Schools are just a reflection of society.   Is it indoctrination to teach kids to share or stand in line and take turns?    Who are you so say that selfishness is wrong?   Is it indoctrination to require that girls and boys wear shoes?  Who are you to say that being barefoot is wrong?  Is it indoctrination to have them pledge allegiance to the flag or learn the rules of grammar or have boys go to shop while girls go to home ec?   Schools used to teach from the bible.   Schools used to teach that blacks were inferior to whites.   The question of women's sufferance used to be a political issue.   The concept of people owning other people used to be a political issue.    There are no hard clear answers to what is right and wrong and what's a religious and political agenda.    People on the Left and Right disagree.   I respect that there are differences, but what I don't respect are people like you who think they get to be the moral authority on what's right or wrong and then act as if it's an obvious truth.   There are people on the left who do the same thing.   At least recognize what you are doing and stop being a hypocrite.     Have whatever view you want, but stop pretending that YOU know what the moral truth is and that everyone else is wrong.    At least have the humility to admit you are just fighting for your ideas the same as everyone else.  Schools are in an impossible situation and are caught in the middle.
That literally has nothing to do with what I presented to the table. 

I said that schools should teach facts. That is all I said. 
What does that response have to do with this. 

Morality and Other things as such can be found in other forums, but this forum is to argue TRANSGENDERISM, and nothing else. 

Blind, deaf, and crippled people get along fine in our society.
Yes, but it is a small percent of the population. Also, these people by nature are going to be treated differently and have to adjust to society either way. It's not their fault and it's not society fault. It is nature's fault. People are going to look at these people differently from normal people. It is a human characteristic, not everything is discriminatory. 

 When I said it's natural, I meant that gay and trans people exist and are part of human kind.  That's a fact.  You can hate them or deny their existence, but that doesn't change reality.
People with Gender dysphoria exist. But they are looked at differently. No one's fault but natures, and they are going to have to adjust. 
People who are homosexual exist. But they are looked at differently. no one's fault but natures, and they are going to have to adjust.

Also, if your ideal world is no one is discriminatory then the world you are looking at is where everyone is identical. Humans wont like other humans and there is nothing you can ever do ever to change that fact. 

Beyond that, what I'm asking you is why can't you just tolerate them?
I can tolerate people. What I can't agree with is their ideology.
Your guy's argument always goes back to," How does it affect you" or "Why can't you just tolerate them."
And my answer to that is, that I can tolerate them, and they as humans don't affect me. It is the ideology that they push on top of my own that I disagree with. It is the pushing of the ideology I don't agree with. That plus the ideology itself. 

1.) I don't agree with their ideology.
2.) I believe that based on substantial evidence that their ideology is not good or healthy for society. 
3.) I believe that I have the right to my own opinion and their ideology calls my opinion bad. 
4.) I don't have to agree with them. Not agreeing with them is not a moral wrong.

See your using words to manipulate and I do not like that. 
You are saying that since I don't agree with these people, and since I don't like their beliefs that I am a bad person. Yet, if I were to do the same thing to these people and say if you aren't a Christain then you are a bad person, they would freak out. 

I am a Christain. I hate no one. I disagree with many. Disagreeing with these people does not make me a bad person. 
And if these people decide to mass genocide themselves simply because I don't agree, then that is on them.

  Even if you think trans people are making it up or just fooling themselves, what does it hurt you to tolerate them?
See. Its sentences like this that really piss me off, because your wording makes it sound like since I don't agree with them, then I am a bad person.

If the LGBTQ+ community did not push their agenda on kids, invade women's spaces, call disagreeing people Nazis and all of the other stuff, then I wouldn't be having this conversation right now, because it truly wouldn't matter. But it is happening, and it is happening a lot. I disagree with it and I am going to call it out. That does not make me a bad person. 

 I think people who think Jesus will come back and rescue all the Christians in Revelations style are delusional.  I think people who think everyone should own a gun are delusional. 
I agreed with everything else you said except these two. And that is fine. I am not going to call you a bad person for this. But I am going to disagree with you. 

People have a right to believe stupid things.   
They don't have the right to push stupid things into policy's that effect everyone else, and kids at that. 

You just don't like trans people and don't think they should be tolerated.    That's the real problem with people like you.
You are assuming and I would call that idiotic of you.

I don't dislike people who agree with this ideology. 
Again, I think that the IDEOLOGY shouldn't be tolerated, not the people that take part in it. 

I am not a bad person; I just have my own opinions. I don't want harm to anyone one. 

But you don't really want have that talk.  You don't just want to stop trans people from limiting your freedom.    You want trans people to not have freedom even in cases where it doesn't affect your freedom.
Again, assuming. An idiotic thing to do.

I do want to talk. That is why I literally created this forum. I don't want people who think they are the opposite sex to not have freedom. I never said that and will never say that. 

I believe that the ideology that these people promote is not healthy for society, and the ideology should be irradiated, not the people who stand by it. 
That is my position.

That's what makes YOUR agenda the most sinister and corrosion society and democracy itself. 
Ok, so let me get this straight:

I want my own opinion, and I think it is wrong and unhealthy for an ideology that calls my opinion genocidal to be pushed into the law, and onto kids. 
That is sinister?

See you can try to take away my freedoms, but you won't. You don't agree with me, and I don't agree with you. That is fine. I couldn't care less. But if you were to go into my kids' school and teach them the opposite of my values, then I would have a big problem with you.

This is what the left does. The left claims that all people are good, therefore socialism would work. Then they say that all people are bad, therefore we need to restrict guns. In almost every aspect of leftism they find themselves in a corner that they can't get out of.

They want inclusion for all, except for Christians. They call people bad and promote gun laws, then call them good and promote socialism. They say men can become women, then say men are hurtful to society. They say women's rights, then let men beat them in sports. They say stop black genocide, then kill all of the black babies with abortions. They say racism is still prominent, then say our society is the best there ever was. They say the right to bodily autonomy yet try and force everyone to take vaccines and wear masks. They say blackface is bad, then promote transgenderism. 

And there are many more. 

But for you to come along randomly, argue for two seconds then conclude I am a horrible, sinister person is absolutely idiotic. 

You incorrectly guessed my viewpoint. You incorrectly guessed my opinion. And when you finally did guess it correctly, you did not represent it correctly at all. 
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@timjohnston
First it's not a kids decision any more than a kid can decide to get his tonsils removed.   Parents are involved. 
I think you mean; they should be. Look at the laws in Washington State regarding this. The government doesn't have to report runaway kids to their parents. 

 In most cases, in those very rare cases where kids engage in drug therapy or puberty blockers, it's usually a positive outcome beneficial to their mental health in a big way.
................brother it does in fact not end well for their mental health. It in fact does the opposite in most cases. 
Do you know the attempted suicide rate in the transgender community by any chance? It is larger than slaves during slavery in the U.S. and Holocaust victims in Nazi camps. And most of those cases are after the fact or during medically transitioning. 

But also, kids who transition, will never experience an orgasm. Just let that sink in. 

Also, there rarely any study's that suggest bullying = suicide. There are actually a lot of study's that claim otherwise. 

I appreciate your honesty here, but again, who's pushing their ideology/agenda now?     I agree that if someone drives drunk they should lose their drivers license.  I agree that if someone assaults someone else they should have their freedom taken away (for a while), but when it comes to people making choices that essentially don't affect others, that's their business.
Do you think that adults who act like kids and destroy their bodies because of that should receive help? These people are mentally ill and we are promoting it. It is not right, and these people need help. 

You don't have to like transpeople.  In fact, I think you have a right to hate them.  But you don't have a right to tell them they can't exist when their existence does you no harm.
I don't, but the majority does, and if the majority finds it harmful to others, and themselves, then I agree with it.
Also, I know a couple of these people who identify this way, and don't hate or dislike them. I just disagree with them. 

 The reason the Right is so obsessed with transpeople is because you're being manipulated by the GOP and those who want to use our democracy to gain power.  The Ds do the same thing through different means and methods, but you guys on the Right are really really good at the fear stuff and you've got the whole judgy religious thing which goes way back.
Who says that the fear of God is bad? It actually isn't.

You know what kind of fear is bad though. Fake fear. Fear like climate change killing us in the next 10 years, Fear like Republicans trying to take away everyone's rights, fear like Trump being Hitler. 

We got along fine without mental health for children for thousands of years too, if getting along fine means committing suicide or an unhappy life.
Dude, the suicide rate in kids now, is higher than they have ever been. 
Mental health wasn't even a consideration back then, because you didn't have thousands of kids offing themselves, because someone called them the wrong name. 

Another thing too. The Lefts position is:
If you don't condone the LGBTQ+ ideology, then mass amounts of children are going to off themselves.
It is blackmail and I won't stand for it. Suicide is horrible but if you think for a second that you can use suicide as a means to control how I think then you are dead wrong. 

So when you were a prepubescent child and you saw a pretty girl and then you say an handsome boy, how long was it until you decided that the girl was pretty and you were attracted to her and didn't see the boy that way?  Did you ponder it for days and weeks?   How long did it take for you to decide to be straight?
I didn't because I was a child. I was too busy picking my nose. 
I don't think you understand kids very well.
Most kids say eww to love because they are immature kids, and don't understand it. 

Also, all the paragraphs that I didn't reply to were just reptations of the parts I took out of the main point. 
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I guess I'm not sure what we're arguing about here.    People were men and women long before there was paperwork to prove or determine it.
But paperwork is important for people like medical staff, and law enforcement, to identify you.
It is included to help identify individuals and ensure that the identification matches the person claiming that identity. It can also be used for statistics, such as tracking gender demographics. Some government agencies or businesses may need to know an individual's gender for specific reasons. Reasons being, providing appropriate medical treatment, determining eligibility for certain services or benefits, or complying with legal requirements.

Why would I agree to that?   Most do if not consciously, then unconsciously and it's not necessarily a bad thing.   I'm of the school that it's better to teach kids how to think, not WHAT to think, but the nature of humankind is to pass down ideas and concepts.  Were it not so, we'd all still be living in caves.
Well, I assumed that you would have agreed to that, because earlier, you said, and I quote:
"I agree that trans parents shouldn't push their sexuality on kids, but then again, I feel the same way about straight parents."
Here is my thinking: I believe that kids should be taught facts. This means that in government systems that teach kids (schools) should only teach facts. That means biological, scientific, mathematical, and historical facts. Other than that, parents should have the right to teach their values to their children. Now, here is the problem with the Transgender ideology. I am 100% fine with parents teaching kids this ideology and promoting it in the household, as long as nothing illegal is going on. But if the schools are teaching facts, and this ideology teaches the opposite of those facts, then you're going to have a lot of either kids who are confused, or kids who deny the facts. 

 I do believe people who are gay or trans are just following their true nature and for most people it doesn't come without a fight and a resistance. 
How many transgender identifying people have you seen throughout history? How many people in power throughout history have you seen identify as the opposite gender? Biologically, this claim you have made is entirely inaccurate. Have you ever heard of the term, selective evolution? Selective Evolution is how evolution works. Any part of a species or animal, physical or mental, that is not required for survival will be left behind. This means that Transgenderism, wouldn't exist in most humans, because it is unneeded for survival. Now it would in a small percentage, and that is what we call Gender Dysphoria, a mental illness. 

You should try having this conversation with a person who's actually gay or trans and see if you can at least come to appreciate that they aren't faking it and that this is a real thing that people feel and are.
I am not claiming that people who are attracted to the same sex, and people who feel as if they are the opposite sex are faking it. That is not what I am claiming at all.
I have talked to gay people who are actually devoted Christians in my church, and suppress the urge, because to act on it is a sin. I have seen interviews with people who suffer from (real) gender dysphoria and feel as if they are the opposite sex. These are real feelings and drives that do exist, but for one, do not exist in the vast majority, and two to not change any of the facts. 

Biology doesn't intend anything.  Do you mean evolution?   It's a nuanced process tempered by time and the human evolution of ideas and concepts of morality.  There's a reason we don't only practice might makes might.   Compassion, empathy, and forgiveness are strategies for success. 
Well, assuming that not everyone is a narcissistic psychopath and people do nice things because its right, you are incorrect in this assessment of morality. You might do good things because it helps you to succeed. Most others do it though because it's nice. Thats what the west has fundamentally forgotten. Not all nice deeds come at a price. But we can talk about morality another time. This is about Transgenderism. 

Being a good or loving parent has nothing to do with being gay or straight.
Being a good or loving parent, means doing what is best for your child, and a child raised in a home with a father figure, and a mother figure is the best way by far to raise your kid. But this is beside the point. We are discussing Transgenderism, and not Homosexuality. 

there have always been gay and trans people.   Some cultures throughout human history have tolerated and included them.  Others exclude banish or kill them. 
Have you ever considered the fact that these cultures were looked down upon, because the ideas that they pushed were harmful for society? 
Also, just because something has existed doesn't make it right. You wouldn't be saying this, if the topic was cannibalism. You wouldn't be saying:
There have always been Canabals. Some cultures throughout history have tolerated and included them. Others exclude banish or kill them.

Some kids starve themselves to death to fit in or dress rebelliously, etc.   Some of what we are seeing as nonbinary may be a part of that.  
I agree. I think not only with the "non-binary" identifying kids, but with the whole LGBTQ+ movement as well. I think that it has become popular for kids (especially kids who are going through puberty) to identify as something that they are not, because of feelings of loneliness, body dysmorphia, gender dysphoria, depression, anxiety, and a bunch of other reasons as well. I also think that pretending to be something that you are not, is not good for you as well. 

Most straight men come to realize as they get older than being a man is more than biology.   How much sense does it make for a man to throw his life away in war?   It makes a lot of sense depending now how that man views himself in society and who he is as a person.  
You obviously either are not a man, or don't understand men at all by saying that bolded part. 
Being a man, and being a boy are different, but they are the same gender. The way you act, and the physical being that you are, are very different, but the way you act doesn't determine the physical being that you are.

Immature adult males would be considered boys. But they are still biological men. 

Stop there a second.  Has it become a big deal?   My life hasn't changed at all in anyway since gays were legally allowed to marry. 
If you give a mouse a cookie..............

Is there rioting in the streets? 
Yes.

Are kids from gay parents turning out to be horrible people?  
Gay parents biologically can't have kids.

Is Jesus raining down lighting bolts?
Not literally, but in other ways, yes. 

Pedophilia is not at an all time high, but even if it was, there's no connection with being gay or being trans and pedophilia.
Open up YouTube Kids and look up LGBTQ+. 
You will be astonished. 

Gay, straight, and trans people are all capable of being horrible persons.     People had the same concerns about black men becoming free or voting and then the same things were said about women getting the vote.    Same thing was said about democracy and religious tolerance and yet we got over it.   We'll get over trans people too.   Your kids or your grandkids won't care the same way you don't really care that women have the right to vote or that your neighbor doesn't belong to your church.  
Yes, they are. So is every single person on this planet. Again, I do not have a problem with you identifying as something, as long as you don't force me to use your pronouns, teach my kids about it, and ridicule everyone who disagrees with you. 

Also, Christianity is something that by this bolded section you obviously don't understand. Everyone belongs to the church, whether your Gay, Straight, Trans, or whatever. But Love is not acceptance of sin. Love is acceptance despite sin. You still have sin, but you will be accepted. 

I don't want to get off track here, but I think the real problem behind the bathroom issue is that society has a twisted and sexist perception of "men" in general.   People seem to think that men are going to grope and rape women most any time when no one's looking.   It's the sexist view society has of men that make this a big issue, but no one ever talks about that.
I think that men who are truly masculine have less of a chance of acting on their biological desires, because they have learned maturity. 
But men who are not masculine (men pretending to be women) are more inclined to act upon those desires. 

Strong men aren't the ones to fear. It is the weak men that will attack. 
That is why we need strong men to protect women from the weak men. 

So, to rephrase the question, are you seeing a lot of problems with transmen preying on women in womens' bathrooms?
So, am I seeing problems with women preying on women in women bathrooms? Not really, because they are all women. 

 That means some 800,000 transwomen are using mens' bathrooms right now.
Again, men using men's bathrooms is not a surprising thing. 

I don't know what you are trying to prove here. 

That said, I'll grant you that abuse of women is more common, sexually or otherwise.
And what is the most common place a man will try and prey on a woman? 
A place where she undresses. 
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Parents: Daddy is married to Daddy.
Kids: Why?
Parents: Because we like each other, and we are able to create a family.
Kids: How?
Parents: Through love
Kids: But that teenager YouFound_Lxam said you can't create a family
Parents:  But we are are a family...and that teenager is just a bigoted asshole, ignore him..
That bolded part right there, is the problem my friend. 
They physically can't create a family. 
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Undeniable proof Stephen Crowder is a wife beater
Ok I just went into a little research deep dive, and I can for certain say that Steven Crowder is an a**hole. He is shown in that video and other evidence to be very verbally abusive, and un-logical in his actions. I will pray for his ex-wife soon to be, and there kids. 

One thing I want to point out from this though is that Republicans are not tribal. If I see a prominent republican figure doing this crap, I will not hesitate to call it out. 
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Then again, I am an advocate for innocent until proven guilty, so maybe some context would be nice. 

Again, though saying f**** watch it is not a nice thing to say to your pregnant wife in general. 
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