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@rbelivb
You said that government's responsibility is to its citizens, so how does it have the authority to tell them who they can or cannot hire?
In what way is hiring anyone you want a responsibility owed to citizens? It is a law that protects other working Americans.
The dysfunction is that supply of labour theoretically outweighs the demand, so that you are attempting to prop up the price by placing artificial limits upon the supply. Artificial scarcity causes deadweight loss, which means that maximum productive efficiency (market equilibrium) is not achieved. The burden caused by deadweight loss can be measured on a utilitarian scale, which is where the analogy to blindness comes in. Economic mobility is tightened by the pressure placed on the production cycle.
Yeah, I have taken macro and microeconomic courses. I am aware that not doing everything to its most efficient amount causes deadweight loss. I am completely on board with low regulation and low taxes. However, at the point in which you suggest shipping the entire third-world into our country to destroy our wages, culture, and way of life, I begin to have a problem with your plan.
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@TheRealNihilist
Historical revisionism is used by white supremacists to rewrite what occurred in Germany and state there is some sort of global conspiracy.
Well, don't use revisionist history. That is why I said to accept the good and the bad. Revisionism is usually used to ignore or downplay the bad, but it can also be used to downplay achievements. Both are bad. Just accept what actually happened.
You said and I quote "We are unified in our culture". How is America unified when everyone doesn't support gun freedom if I accept your findings?Unified: brought together as oneAs one doesn't leave anything up. It is like if I said 1 + 1 together equals 2 but then later retract my statement and say 1 + 1 = 2 then - 0.21.
Well, that was because I said we don't all have to agree on everything to be unified. While we don't all agree on how gun laws should be, most people generally think they should be more loose than other countries would. Guns are, to an extent, part of our culture. No major candidate from either political party wants to do away with guns, and I think that is telling, since a lot of countries in Europe have. We are unified in traditions such as Christmas, as I showed.
Are you saying that, to be unified, we must all agree on everything? I think any good democracy needs to have its disagreements.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
the "nuclear option" started the downward spiral on precedent imo thank Harry Reid who I can't say enough bad things about
I am afraid I don't know much about him. Do tell.
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@HistoryBuff
Interesting. But no one refused to hold hearings to block the nomination. Also, Obama did pick a moderate that conservatives could agree to. The republicans still refused to hold a hearing.
If they would have agreed to it, then I would assume that they would have held a hearing. Polls generally showed a Trump loss, so they would have wanted to put in a moderate rather than whoever Hillary would have put in. That being said, I don't know much about the potential candidate.
Multiple counts of obstruction of justice, bribery, threatening witnesses, violation of the emoluments clause, violation of federal election law
Well, doesn't obstruction of justice need to have an actual crime? The Mueller Report didn't really accuse him of anything, so he couldn't obstruct a false investigation. I don't know much about your other claims.
Then you should support reforming the supreme court. That would mean liberals couldn't just cram it full of lifetime appointment far left wing judges to reinterpret the law. But i'm guessing you wouldn't support that because conservatives have already managed to do this.
Well, I support how it is for the reason most people support it. I think lifetime appointments shield them from backlash for making unpopular, yet correct interpretations. If a liberal judge made a good interpretation of the law which a conservative president had personal problems with, he shouldn't be able to fire them. That would give the president supreme power over the judicial system.
Oh please. most of the right wing only cares about the constitution when it is useful to them. The constitution was never meant to allow people who own automatic weapons either. But lots of right wing people argue that it should.
I can't speak for other conservatives' reasoning on why they do what they do. But, for instance, when new technology comes into place that the Founding Fathers wouldn't know about, we try to pass laws that are in the same spirit as the Founding Fathers would have had. The Second Amendment, from how I interpret it, is to prevent government tyranny and infringement on rights. Preventing us from having rifles would make that essentially impossible.
How does rotating the supreme court stack it? It just keeps people from picking a young, extremist judge to try to force the law in one direction against the will of the people? I don't know if that method is the best way to resolve the current problems, but something needs to be done to stop the current attempts to stack the court.
They don't have to vote a certain way, though, because they don't have to worry about appeasing the president for job security. Bernie said he wanted to rotate them because of Roe v. Wade overturning. If that isn't a call to ideologically alter the court in the liberal direction, I don't know what it.
Again, you make it sound like the constitution hasn't been changed 27 times already. It's not like changing it is in any way unprecedented. When something needs to be changed, it should be changed. The right is currently working hard to stack the courts with hard right wing judges so that the law will be reinterpreted in their preferred way, even though it is against what many of the american people want. That is a problem. If liberals were doing that you would up in arms about it.If laws need to be changed, they should pass laws to do it. They shouldn't use lifetime judge appointments to get their way in an anti-democratic fashion.
I don't appreciate when liberals wipe their ass with the Constitution every time it gets in the way of their excessive government intervention. If Californian's want free health care, let them have it. If people in Georgia don't want it, don't make them pay for it. FDR's stupid judges allowed the federal government to intervene in everything they wanted. You know why they ruled in his favor after previously calling his plans unconstitutional? He tried to stack the courts.
I didn't see any liberals complaining about the liberally stacked courts before because they cared about ideological balance. I don't care for partisan BS. I don't support changing the rules because the other side benefits from them now. The Democrats made it so the Senate only needs a 51 majority to end filibusters, but now complain that we push things through. It is absurd.
And how have right-wing judges reinterpreted laws against the will of the people so far?
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@TheRealNihilist
American history is the series of events that led to it becoming what it is today. Accepting this history as your own is part of being an American, whether you like the history or not.
Most Democrats still support more gun freedom than is allowed in nearly any country. Sure, some support taking all guns, but that is a minority. About 21% of Americans want the Second Amendment to be abolished, meaning 79% want it. That is a sizable majority. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/03/27/one-in-five-americans-want-the-second-amendment-to-be-repealed-national-survey-finds/
Yeah, the whole cry baby BS over holidays is a relatively new thing. Our culture is a bit more divided that it used to be, but it is still rather intact. 9 in 10 Americans celebrate Christmas. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/12/18/5-facts-about-christmas-in-america/ Couldn't find stats on Thanksgiving, but I can imagine it follows the same trend.
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@HistoryBuff
What does that mean? To my knowledge, no one had ever refused to hold hearings for a supreme court judge because a president was in the last year of their term. they even later acknowledged (and laughed about) that this reasoning had been a lie.
It was referring to a 1992 speech by Joe Biden to president Bush telling him to not put a new Supreme Court justice in because there was an election coming up. The winner should decide, not the lame duck. Either that or he should put a moderate candidate in.
Donald trump is an unprecedented president. He has committed numerous crimes in office and his party has made it clear they will do everything in their power to prevent him being punished for it. If the normal method of dealing with an issue is completely blocked, then you have to use an irregular one. I'm not arguing that trump should be charged with a crime now, but I think mueller should have done it.
What crimes are you specifically referring to?
It is unprecedented. But the constitution doesn't explicitly say you can't add a term limit. it says they "shall hold their offices during good behavior". Many interpret that to mean they cannot be removed for any reason. But that is only 1 interpretation.But even if it was unconstitutional, it's not like the US constitution hasn't been changed multiple times. I don't understand why some people think that the Constitution is set in stone. If what has been laid out in the constitution isn't working properly or is being abused, then amend the constitution so that it works.
It means they can only be removed if they start abusing their power somehow. That essentially never happens, though. If anything it would be activist judges, typically liberals, who abuse their power by passing laws through the courts instead of just interpreting the law.
The Constitution isn't set in stone, but it generally shouldn't be amended to be something it wasn't meant to be.
Would you support Bernie Sanders' blatant desire to try to stack the court? He obviously wants to pass laws that are forbidden according to our foundational document.
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@TheRealNihilist
You aren't referencing me in comments. I didn't block you, did I?
History: We each accept American history as our own history. The Founding Fathers are important figures for us.
Attitudes: General sentiments most people share. Freedom is a big part of it in America. We like it. A lot of people like gun freedoms. To different degrees, yes, but in general we want to have them. European countries are quite different in that respect.
Traditions: Things we do annually. Christmas, Thanksgiving, and other holidays are examples of traditions. Our business etiquette is distinct.
I may have misused 'group-think' a little bit. It is about conforming to group opinion to not want to be an outlier. Either way, we still don't have it here because of our diverse sets of opinions.
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@TheRealNihilist
I feel like we argued this before.
Define culture.
It is shared history, attitudes, and traditions. A little more to it than that, but that is roughly what culture is.
What the majority does as in vote Democrat or Republican is group think.
There are many schools of thought. There are independent parties, and they are growing in popularity. It would be group think in an authoritarian government where they control what you can know and where the vast majority of people are in agreement. Republicans and Democrats are roughly half of the country each. But, even people within the same party have different opinions on policy. This isn't group-think.
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@HistoryBuff
True. But that doesn't mean it can't be done. It would be perfectly legal to do so. We live in an age where precedent means very little. Trump and the republicans wipe their asses with precedent regularly.
If you are talking about Obama's nomination, they were following the Biden rule.
Precedent shouldn't really be broken unless necessary. If Trump should go to jail, impeach him then handle all of that. Don't indite him while in office.
And I would say that the Democratic platform is entirely based on breaking precedent. Bernie said he wants to rotate the Supreme Court, which is obviously breaking precedent due to its blatant unconstitutionality.
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@HistoryBuff
Yeah, it would just break precedent.
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@disgusted
it's
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Perhaps you could use some of this 'education' you speak of? I don't think you want to commence 'it is' education.
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@Ruby
runs a large town
He runs the 306th largest town in the US. Not very big, with just over 100,000 people.
There were less than 11,000 votes in his entire mayoral general election. Not very impressive.
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@rbelivb
In my view, laws should by decided by the people and not imposed by the state, but this is a different subject.
Yes, but who enforces these laws? The state.
So they can't employ whoever they want?
Within our borders, you cannot hire whoever you want.
If we could cure some people of deafness or blindness, there would be less deaf or blind people left in society. That would mean that those remaining deaf or blind people would have less power and influence in the culture. Therefore should the government step in to prevent the cure from being given? If we cured blindness, we would be taking power from blind people and putting it in the hands of non-blind people. In the same sense, if we improve the economy and make more people wealthier, this would in effect be also placing power in the hands of wealthy people. But in the long run, I am trying to expand the circle of people who have influence in society, and I believe that your solution would narrow it.
American workers aren't a disease. There is no deaf/blind influence at all. Their interests are mainly pushed by non-deaf non-blind people. Would these immigrants look out for our interests the way we look out for the disabled? Or, would they compete for our jobs and not even consider us as they lower our wages and work conditions? I think the latter is more likely.
How does putting more money in the pockets of large business owners give poor workers more influence?
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@disgusted
That was more or less a Nixon quote lol. Super out of context, but it is fun to use.
A sitting president cannot be indicted, though.
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@disgusted
"It isn't illegal if the president does it"
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@rbelivb
How is that relevant? Also, it is the purpose of a democratic republic to achieve just that.
You said:
In a corporate body, unlike other mere clubs, companies, or groups, power is consolidated into a single entity that enjoys rights usually reserved only for individual citizens.
I was giving an example of something not usually reserved for individual citizens. Something a GOVERNMENT must do. A democratic republic is a form of government. A government has a responsibility to its PEOPLE, which are citizens within its BORDERS.
If that is the case, if a citizen wants to let a foreigner live with them in their own house, who has the authority to stop them from doing so?
A citizen can house a foreigner if they want. That foreigner doesn't have the right to take others' jobs or vote, though.
This is a totally subjective measure. If prices were simply paid to satisfy the interests of the recipient, we could not understand differences in price between the various products and services in the economy. These variations correspond to the differences in objective utility provided by the products or services offered in exchange.
Prices are determined in a way that benefits both the recipient and the provider. The provider profits, the recipient gets a product that is worth as much or more than the money to them. Products and services do provide utility, but those jobless Americans couldn't afford them. Everything in a market economy that is exchanged is done for mutual benefit. One side should not get inordinate power over the other. You are putting way too much power in the hands of business owners and taking it from workers. I would suggest taking a lot of power away from unions as a good alternative to letting the entire third world ruin our country in the name of "efficiency".
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@rbelivb
In a corporate body, unlike other mere clubs, companies, or groups, power is consolidated into a single entity that enjoys rights usually reserved only for individual citizens. This is just what you are ascribing to the US when you invoke the idea that cultures can be violated, or that the desires or sovereignty of the "culture" of the US ought to be prioritized over those of the individual members of society.
I don't know if writing and enforcing laws is something usually reserved only for individual citizens. The government is an entity created by its citizens for the purpose of protecting its rights and providing for its interests. I do say that the US government has a duty to its sovereign people more than it does to people in Zimbabwe. That is the whole point of having a country.
Is the purpose of employment not the productive utility it adds to the economy? How is it not corruption if you have workers doing unnecessary or under-productive labour to create an inflated measure of their value?
Employment is for the mutual interest of the employee and the employer. That means providing decent wages to the employee and providing valuable work for the employer. You are violating the interest of the American employee. I don't think businesses should have monopolies or that workers should have inordinate power, either. You are neglecting that there is still competition for labor among Americans.
The market is designed to serve the people, not the other way around. People don't live to be the most efficient, lowest wage workers possible. Decimating the living conditions of Americans in an economy and state they created is disgusting.
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@rbelivb
How about I phrase it this way: Is your ideal America a place where most people work in sweatshops?
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@rbelivb
These groups have a right to band together and form enclaves or clubs based on whatever culture they prefer. I fully respect the rights of individuals to join groups based upon common interests and to attempt to have these interests represented politically. However, their ability to consolidate their power into large corporate bodies should be curtailed. We live in a unipolar world, and for the US to feign a stance of self-enclosed egotism is naive when the balance of geopolitical influence is tilted so disproportionately in its own favor.
You are using very odd terminology here. Are you using country and "corporate body" interchangeably?
Why are workers paid a wage? It is a measure of their productivity, and the whole reason people are employed is in order to produce goods and services. You are proposing to impose limits upon the labor pool, effectively diminishing the productive capacity of that economy, in order to artificially bolster the bargaining power of the working class.
If the company is so concerned about the labor pool, they have every right to export their jobs. We are a country with good laws, which is why they prefer to stay here. Why are you trying to send millions of impoverished immigrants here to undercut the wages of Americans? Your laws might help some businesses make larger profits, but you are screwing American workers. If you are in favor of worsening the lives of American citizens, then you can keep on pushing for this open borders lunacy.
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@Imabench
Instead, 3 of the 4 voted against Nixon while the fourth abstained, resulting in an 8-0 ruling that effectively doomed Nixon as president.
A shame, really.
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I don't think overturning Roe v. Wade would actually make abortion illegal. It would get rid of the federal mandate that there cannot be strong restrictions on access to abortion.
It would leave the decision on the legality of abortion up to the states, which I am in favor of. Some states would outlaw it completely or restrict it strongly, while others will allow it up until term without any health concerns even necessary. That is how it should work. We need more federalism.
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@rbelivb
Ok, but collectives of people share common history, customs, and values. Some of those groups of people who are successful don't want others tarnishing their culture, bringing crime, etc. Why are you neglecting their collective desire to keep those people out while you champion the right of the singular people who wish to violate a group's desire?
I don't want Americans' wages to get decimated and their working conditions to be destroyed, but apparently that is completely what you are in favor of. The goal of countries is to look out for the interests of their citizens, and you are robbing citizens of the ability to look out for each others' collective interests.
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@Greyparrot
I mean, I would be okay with starting again. Leave everything the same, but without California.
But honestly, the fact is that everyone of most political persuasions want a better life for Americans. Just because we think the other side's way of doing things is a worse way of achieving that doesn't mean that we aren't unified.
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@rbelivb
And why should people from crappy nations be able to force their will to enter our flourishing nation against the will of our people?
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@Username
Conquering our continent would be a terrible thing to do. And we wouldn't be justified in doing so.
No, I meant back in the day, when we conquered the continental US. But we would be justified in conquering this continent. We could run Honduras, Bolivia, and Venezuela much better than they are right now. Nothing changes, either, without democratic elections or violent uprisings. The citizens don't have guns, so they are SOL.
its history.com
While history.com in my experience is usually non-biased, I do only have experience reading non-controversial articles from them. These articles are written by people, though, and people have biases.
The U.S. had already come up with these ideas of "all people are equal, all people deserve rights", and yet they still constantly killed and murdered Indians, shipped them out of their homes, I.e. Trail of Tears, and gave them smallpox blankets. The Indians did not have these Enlightenment concepts, and we did. Yet we still mistreated them.Even if you are willing to blame the Indians for their crimes, you still can't absolve the US of it's crimes.
Well, yes. They had the idea that all people are equal and such, but that is in our Constitution. Our Constitution applies to our citizens, not everyone else in the world.
Yes, we killed Indians. It was a war, and generally you mistreat your enemy. I could blame Indians for their crimes and us for ours, but I don't. I don't believe in war crimes.
no first world country goes around shooting innocents after they win battles, and the nations that do are nationally and internationally prosecuted. And how is the Trail of Tears and such not genocidal? It was literally moving Indians out through intentionally disease infested land so Americans could take their own homes.
I don't know if we were classified as a first-world nation at the time. During a lot of this, we were still an agrarian society. The Trail of Tears wasn't a genocide because we didn't attempt to wipe them all out. A lot died on the journey, but our mission was relocation. A genocide would be trying to wipe them out and kill them all. Gassing non-combatants that were sent to camps is a genocide. Forced relocation of a defeated army and its tribe is not.
Yes but clearly that "accomplishment" would be a disaster for the rest of the world.Imagine how they feel. They get kicked out of their homes and now they have these small little acres of land to live on.
It would still be an accomplishment. They would have overcome an adversity, which would have been bad for the rest of the world. Our accomplishment, on the other hand, was amazing for the rest of the world. Who would give billions in foreign aid to the needy, give unprecedented amounts of personal liberty, and take in all of those millions of Irish when there was famine? We did some bad, but we did a lot more good to make up for that. I don't think you could say the Natives would have done so much good with their land.
Imagine how they feel today when they receive millions of dollars from the government and get to live autonomously on reservations. They can live in harmony with nature, practice their customs, and they can do so without fear that the Apaches will swoop in and scalp them. Sounds like they came out on top in the end.
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@TheRealNihilist
A two party inherently divides a country. One wants open borders another doesn't. The "cultural unity" can only be met under a one party system. Dictatorship, Monarchy and others I am missing.
I mean, you are not wrong. I'm of course not proposing that our country does or should have one set of ideas. We are unified in our culture, not our beliefs. Now, unless someone is super far-left, they generally love our country, our Founding Fathers, and the whole American ethos. That is what binds us together, not expressing group-think.
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@rbelivb
So you are against welfare because it forces costs on people? And you are against culture because.....?
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@rbelivb
Yeah, how about we don't let the third world decimate our social safety net and disrupt our cultural unity, sound good?
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@Username
This could justify any acts of imperialism. If the UN didn't exist, would you invade Syria? The Congo? Saudi Arabia? Venezuela? North Korea? Mexico? After all, we could use the land much more productively with our 1st world democracy, standard of living, and tech.
I don't think any of those acts would work in our interest. It was rather profitable to conquer our continent, though. We could be justified in doing so, I just don't think we should.
Two wrongs don't make a right. We've given them so much crap (https://www.history.com/news/native-americans-genocide-united-states). Is all that stuff justified just because they killed each other and attacked us?
Your article seems very biased based on the way that they continuously mention skin color, but I shall examine it nonetheless. I see a supposed genocide. They were blamed for attacks on American settlements, but the article doesn't absolve them from doing so. They may very well have done it. We won the Battle of Tippecanoe, don't see what is wrong with that. "To avenge the Creek-led massacre at Fort Mims, Jackson and his men slaughtered 186 Creeks at Tallushatchee" Seems like there was some back and forth, seems normal still. Jackson saved an Indian baby from being killed and raised it himself. How civil of him.
There are like six more, but you get the point. There was no "genocide" as the article wants you to believe. The Indians fought decently, but lost. The Holocaust was a genocide. It was a one-way slaughter, not a series of wars that went back and forth. This is how war works, and while war may not be an amazing device, it was overall in the better interest of the world that we did this rather than let Indian tribes war with each other and live in backwards societies.
So if the Nazis won WW2, it's an accomplishment?Pre-emptively: I'm not calling anyone a Nazi, I'm drawing a comparison.
Would the Nazis consider winning WW2 an accomplishment? Yes. Do we consider gaining millions of acres of land in good deals and a series of wars an accomplishment? Heck yes! The only difference is we are a country that respects human rights, while Nazis don't. We currently give Natives millions of dollars and their own plantations that they can choose to live in. I doubt the Nazis would offer such liberties.
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@ILikePie5
See this is your problem. You’re under the impression that there was a motive behind it — it’s a predisposed bias. A normal unbiased person would see Joe Biden as a problem worth investigating.
They don't seem to understand this, and it is quite irksome. They talk about how Bernie will fight corruption and all that, but then they try to impeach Trump when he tries to expose corruption. SMH
OrangeManBad.exe has stopped running.
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@Username
I think it does matter that we for sure used the land more productively and to the aid of more people than the Natives would have. Don't pretend like they didn't commit terrible acts against each other(scalping) and didn't attack us, either. We won a war, and we got land that we used to help a lot of people.
Winning a war is an accomplishment, at least for the winning country.
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I would do a write-in ballot for Richard Nixon.
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@Username
Would Native Americans made better use of that land than we did?
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@Trent0405
JFK had dreadful foreign policy.
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@Imabench
OK, I like Ike and all, but he might have to be taken out for Polk!
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@Vader
I mean, on a personal level, Bill Clinton was a scum bag. He was a philanderer, potentially pedophile based on that whole Epstein business, etc. He is in my top 10 for the same reason that Washington isn't. I don't consider their personal issues and things done before becoming president, only policies passed during their terms and potential long-term effects of those policies. Otherwise Washington would have to be #1 on every list.
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Bill Clinton was also a pretty good president. He might be my number 6.
It is hard to include Washington. He was awesome as a person and revolutionary leader. Probably my favorite American of all time. Just not president.
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@HistoryBuff
He didn't order the break-in. He ordered the cover-up.
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@HistoryBuff
I had a debate on it.
Unfortunately my opponent only finished half of it.
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Top 5 Best
1. Richard Nixon
2. Theodore Roosevelt
3. Calvin Coolidge
4. Dwight Eisenhower
5. Ronald Reagan
Top 2 Worst:
1. LBJ
2. FDR
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@Alec
<br>We thought Iraq did have nuclear weapons. It wouldn't be an invasion. It would be a team of 20,000 UN workers or so making sure that there are no nukes in Israel.
No, we really didn't. They even lied about Saddam Hussein helping with 9/11. How would these UN workers, say, search through all of Siberia in Russia, thousands of miles of desert in the Middle East, and other remote locations where nukes could easily be hidden. How much will it cost to hire 20,000 UN workers?
I wouldn't kill them, but I´d send them to an isolated island with no transportation out of it but it would be a good island for them so they wouldn't want to leave and so when every one of them dies from natural causes, the knowledge of how to build nukes is gone.
So, we are forcibly kidnapping people now. I'm intrigued.
The explosives in the book aren't nearly as dangerous as nukes. I would personally want the book banned but I respect the court decisions that established it´s legalization. Making explosives that injure a dozen people is nothing like a nuke.
I mean, no they aren't as dangerous. But, normal people can actually make these weapons, while only a billionaire could perhaps build a nuke. You are arming nearly everyone with knowledge to blow things up.
We got lucky. Even if the odds of a president launching nukes is 1/100 in their term, as time goes on, the collective odds of a president launching nukes gradually increase. Nukes are too risky. Getting rid of all nukes at once leaves us vulnerable, but if we gradually get rid of them, then it would prevent their explosion. This is why there should be a high tax on nukes. It forces countries to gradually get rid of them so they are no longer a threat.
My point is that it is more or less unfeasible to actually find every nuclear weapon that a country may be hiding and that both sides having nukes deters conflict between those nations.
How can they make a nuke if they don´t know how? All the scientists that know how to make a nuke are on an island. I don´t think the scientists would allow random people to get a nuke, so I doubt they would help out random people with making a nuke. Since people currently don´t build nukes illegally, I don´t think they would get nukes in a nuke free world.
Scientists, like all human beings, want stuff. How would they make a nuke? Pay off a scientist to tell them the secrets.
Also, sanctions haven't stopped Iran from attempting to build nukes. North Korea has about two allies and they also have nuclear weapons. How is what you are proposing any different?
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@Alec
Russia, US, UK, France, India, Israel, Pakistan, North Korea, and China all have nukes. Notice how none of them go to war with each other. Even the Cold War had no direct conflict between the US and the USSR.
I'd send foreign UN officials to search Israel for nukes, just like what we did to Iraq.
Just like Iraq....Know for a fact they have no weapons and invade them anyway :P
By burning them if they are made of paper or by deleting them if they are online.
I don't think this sounds very feasible. Deleting information online is incredibly difficult, but I will take your word for it. Should we purge all scientists that know how to make them?
Why?
The Anarchist Cookbook is a book that has been ruled constitutional to publish multiple times despite attempts to ban it. It tells you how to make explosives and illegal drugs.
In order to discover it again and to build a nuke again, people would be prohibited from owning plutonium and uranium. It would have to be done underground if it happens and if building a bomb gets caught, the people involved would be punished with life in jail without parole. Currently, people aren't building nukes illegally, so I don't think it would happen in a nuke free world. I'd want the nukes to get used for power to get rid of them and to provide energy.
Yeah, people would need a ton of money in order to make a nuke. However, you are increasing the incentive for nukes to be made illegally. Think of all of the power that could be given to a group that has a nuke while no other country does. They could exploit non-nuke countries heavily.
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@disgusted
Well, it would be quite scandalous to sleep in the same room as a woman you aren't married to, wouldn't it?
Since the vast majority of all humans are hetero, I am going with the most statistically accurate guess here.
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@Alec
How would the UN go about collecting this tax? What if the country doesn't pay?
What about hidden nuke arsenals like Israel has? How do you find those nukes and charge them for it?
I don't know how you get rid of the "instructions" for building nukes. That would actually be unconstitutional. Also, I don't know how you would go about destroying information, and how do you prevent people from "discovering" it again?
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@zedvictor4
Why do you think Jesus was gay?
Where did I say that pedophilia was or wasn't a crime? I said he was a pedophile, which is true.
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@HistoryBuff
The people being bombed would likely disagree. From their point of view, the christian americans are murdering their families.
Why does their perspective matter? It is religious leaders vs non-religious leaders.
We have no way of knowing. There is nothing written about him until decades after his death and nothing was ever written by someone who had met him. He very well could have been a pedophile but that information didn't survive.
There is no indication that he even got married or was ever in a relationship. You can never know everything, but without any evidence to suggest that, I don't think we can assume it.
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@Greyparrot
Nobody. Probably because Jesus wasn't a pedophile and a warlord, but I could be wrong.
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@HistoryBuff
I don't think that the US government's bombings could be considered Christian bombings. However, theocratic governments, like those in the Middle East, could be considered Islamic attacks. They are run by religious leaders. Our government is not and has strict separation of church and state.
But, yes, painting an entire group based on what a minority does is generally counterproductive. We(I can't vouch for the trend creator) are discussing trends here, not making generalizations about every group member. For instance, African Americans commit more murder than any other group, but they aren't all murderers.
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