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@ILikePie5
I mean that your experience, playstyle, and psychology would suggest that you could have done the NK.
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I keep thinking back to post 10. I could see Pie making that NK.
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@Greyparrot
Was KM actually offline for the whole NP? How experienced is KM?
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@Discipulus_Didicit
The fact that you so easily went along with Wylted's gambit--while asserting you disbelieved his claim--strikes me as odd.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Lmao a single post where I remark - with surprise - that Wylted may have been telling the truth?
Yeah, I saw those other posts. But, I think if you actually take time to consider how the DP evolved, though, you'll see the initial incredulity fade into a willingness to accept the possibility of Wylted's being the day cop. The change in your own thinking as expressed in those links testifies to this shift. The idea then, that "it was incredibly obvious that he was not actually a cop" is false, given that, at the close of the DP, it was by no means incredibly obvious that Wylted was not a cop.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
It was incredibly obvious that he was not actually a cop
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@ILikePie5
I would not put 3 scum in a 10 player game. A good rule of thumb when balancing games is that, in a worst case scenario, town should get three mislynches before they lose. Imagine a worse case scenario for town with a 7-3 set-up:
DP1: 7-3
DP2: 5-3
DP3: 3-3
Town loses after just 2 mislynches. That's not a well-balanced set-up, because, ultimately, it denies town enough time to gather information to be genuinely competitive. I was taught that by both Khaos and FT, and, while this is a really rudimentary rule (and not a full consideration of what goes into balancing a game), it is an important rule.
But none of what I just said answers your question. You're asking about likelihood. I don't know much about Mhar's modding style, but as he seems to have less experience than say, Warren, I am not confident that there are not three mafia. I'd put the odds at 50-50 for the game having three scum.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Why does your post just scream scum to me?
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@ILikePie5
Dont scum have to ba active to submit their NK?
Yes. But only one team-member needs to be active. It's possible that 3 mafia began the game, and thus that only one was active to submit the NK. I haven't checked, but was any player not online for the whole NP?
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@warren42
You didn't post last DP, if I recall correctly. Reads and thoughts pls.
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The existence of a strongman implies a doctor. I would urge whoever is the doctor not to claim.
The choice of NK was interesting. Mafia had to have inferred that a doctor was in this game. The choice to target Wylted in spite of the likelihood that a doctor existed was a curious calculation. To me, this suggests either some kind of WIFOM-esque logic, inexperience, or willingness to take risks. As things stand then, players who are inexperienced or who are known risk-takers should be examined more closely.
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@TheRealNihilist
When is this unrelenting harassment train going to be stopped permanently?
Ultimately, that's between Poly and I, but she knows that moderation is closely monitoring her activity.
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@TheRealNihilist
Is Dr.Franklin in jail?
He is temp-banned and will return soon.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Your comments thus far remind me of FT, and not in a good way. Care to say anything of substance?
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@Wylted
What do you think the best explanation for him using that wording is?
Eh...
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@oromagi
Explain the Supa thing more thoroughly and using straightforward language.
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@oromagi
Bussing's too common!
I agree that bussing is common, but this is only the case when a member of the mafia is already suspected by the town. Bussing out of nowhere is not common in my experience, because it deprives mafia of a player that counts towards their majority. Keeping a larger team hastens mafia's point of victory. While there are benefits to bussing out of nowhere, the calculus is less straightforward, and thus the action is not particularly common.
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Let's leave the vote count at L2 for now. There's still more conversation to have in this DP. We have 96 hours...there isn't any need to rush.
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@oromagi
Why are you FOSing Dudz?My vote's on Dudz right now but I am suspicious AF of u & disc
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@Wylted
Auto correct screwed me over
Talk about a Freudian slip.
Also, I am caught up.
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@oromagi
if u prove town I will admit that maneuver was spectacular- i just don't see any reason to believe right now
Right now, with a hard scum slip, the best move is to lynch Water. Whatever scheming might have transpired, it is certainly the case that Water is scum.
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@oromagi
Some paranoia is good in a game like this. I agree that something feels off about these events, but ignorance is still the most likely culprit (at least until more evidence emerges).That means somebody is colluding with WP on the PMs.
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Why do I feel like this is just really bold bussing?
VTL Water
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@Wylted
I Like the Dick Disciples take on things right now
Who?
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@Wylted
"I don't buy a day cop. Seems like a scummy way to lynch a newb player to pressure them into admitting"To pressure them into admitting what?
This is better from Wylted.
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@Greyparrot
wylted is erratic
That can't be an excuse to get away with everything, honestly.
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@WaterPhoenix
I'd like to lynch Wylted for absolutely no reason whatsoever like he lynched me.
This is your first time playing, I assume.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Wylteds day cop claim seems like the start of a typical townie wylted gambit based on previous games with him. Not sure whether to go with it or not...
My issue with Wylted is that he is simply too erratic to get any super-firm reads on. At this stage of the game, with POE at play, I'd be willing to lynch based on conduct like this, absent any better targets emerging.
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@Wylted
Okay I am actually shocked. I am the day cop and it looks like water phoenix is guilty. What do you have to say for yourself?
Day flavors are extremely rare. It also is statistically unlikely that you'd have hit mafia on your first try. And, why target Water? In fact, why target at all so early in the game, when you have had literally no chance to formulate reads? It's better to use abilities to whittle down scumpiles instead of shooting in the dark. At first blush, this puts more suspicion on you than on Water.
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@Wylted
Why are you fishing for claims right off the bat?Are you a spider?
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I should add that I will be commenting as I go, so not all of what I post may be up-to-date.
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@keithprosser
The link probably is not going to be in the introduce yourself thread, but I will find somewhere to put it.
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@oromagi
He took his own life. It was...rough...for the whole community.
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@Tejretics
That's something I can add. While users should always feel free to talk to mods about problems they're having, we are not certified to provide any kind of counseling or mental health care, and so having those links would be useful.
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@Dr.Franklin
You can ask questions like this, but you shouldn't use the asking of such questions to call out other users at the same time.
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