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@Double_R
My post 128:
“I wouldn’t be surprised if you don’t even agree with the premise of the question…”
… your questions are based on nonsense premises…
Called it! You could have saved both of us time and trouble by just saying that upfront, but that obviously isn’t your style.
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@Shila
You are well on your way to the top! But remember this:
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@Shila
Probably something called a computer. Don’t look now, but you’re coming up on 5800 posts!
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@Shila
Spam is spam, regardless of the count.
<— FYI post totals are counted.
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@Double_R
The context before and after the debate performance was night and day different. Up until that point the DNC was not in any position to stand up against Joe Biden the way you are claiming they should have. And in fact they rightly refrained from stepping in afterwards allowing Biden the space to make his own decision as he was entitled to do.
So, we disagree on that.
Predicted response: “Well, it is absurd and stupid to disagree with the very lucid point I just made.”
Yes Joe Biden is old. Everyone knew that. What ended his campaign was the image of him standing on that debate stage fumbling his words spectacularly. That was the point he was no longer viable, any action taken before that moment would have been premature, especially for an organization whose literal job it is to support the Democratic candidate.
Ah, right. Similarly, the “emperor with no clothes” was doing juuust fine until a little child pointed out the situation openly so that the it could no longer be ignored.
Predicted response: “What a silly comparison to make. The two situations could not be more different.”
You said you "blame the DNC" in the context of why Americans voted for the moron. My interpretation is exactly what those words mean. If you meant something different then by all means enlighten me.
To quote you back to yourself: “Turns out it becomes very easy to make a message sound stupid when you inject your own stupidity into it. Who knew?”
This particular line of discussion started with a question I posed (and which you “reinterpreted”) in post 128 which you should have left as rhetorical as I had suggested. You don’t wish to discuss political strategy, remember? You and I could see a black sedan and disagree on what color it is, so I don’t see the point in “enlightening you” any further on this.
So is swatting aside your epithets.
I’m not sure what you expect with your stubborn, strawman reinterpretations of what I am saying. Yet you insist on posting to me unsolicited anyway.
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@Shila
You also shouldn’t base your self worth on how many posts you can rack up on this website.
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@Shila
Aw, you shouldn’t base your self worth on what you can glean from online profiles.
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@Shila
Simple: I don’t expect people here to know me.
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@Double_R
but I think Haley stood a very real chance... If not for the indictments.
Haley was always well behind. I have no reason to believe that the indictments changed the outcome of the primaries. I think they appealed more to people who were not very politically engaged to begin with.
From the fact that it was my comments you were criticizing as a "defeatest mentality" and then said "this reminds me of a teacher who...". If you weren't talking about my comments then I don't know what "This" in that sentence was talking about.
Yes, you have a defeatist mentality which absolves the DNC of any responsibility to lead. Not YOU engaging voters more effectively but the DNC.
You asked why Biden was picked…
No, I didn’t ask that.
An unprecedented response to an unprecedentedly terrible performance. It never ceases to amaze me how right wingers always seem to forget what happened before the action they criticize as if everything happens in a vacuum.
Ah, there’s the gaslighting. I was wondering when you were going to resort to that, Mr. Anton.
Me: “They should have done [A] before it was too late.”
You: “To do [A] would have been unprecedented.”
Me: “That IS what they ended up doing!”
You: “And it was unprecedented just as I claimed.”
But to pretend it's the DNC's job to hold Americans hands and tell them who to vote for is ridiculous.
Not what I said. Your routine and predictable strawmanning and gaslighting is tedious.
It's there job to make the case, but the case couldn't have been any clearer.
Indeed, the case was clear: “Trump is an existential threat. He is, quite simply, unfit for the office. Instead, vote for me, Kamala Harris, despite the possibility that I may be the worst major candidate for president any y’all ever seen!”
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@Shila
Your profile is full of unknowns.
To you, yes. Not to me.
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Hmm… it appears that Trump exists no matter what the subject at hand may be. Anyway:
Does the past exist?
It used to.
Does the future exist?
It will.
Do abstractions exist?
Yes, in the abstract.
Do thoughts exist?
If they don’t, then I’m not as smart as I thought.
If something will never be observed, does it exist?
That depends… we talking “Russell’s teapot,” or dark matter, or?
If you have heard that something has been observed, but never observe it yourself, does it exist?
That also depends… we talking Bigfoot, or relativistic time dilation, or?
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@Double_R
The opposite turned out to be true, that's not where we started. Recall that prior to the indictments and assassination attempts there were viable challengers to Trump, but the party coalesced around him after those events.
No, I don’t recall that. The only viable challenger turned out to be Hayley, but she dropped out, ceding the nomination to Trump prior to the events you mention.
I'm not the teacher, it's not my job to teach my classmates, especially given that there are over 300 million of them.Again, and as I've made clear repeatedly to GP, I am entirely uninterested in arguing political strategy or effectiveness. I care about real, actual issues. If all you've got is "you're wrong because Trump voters said so" I couldn't care less what you have to say.
Where did you get the idea I was talking about you? I have been talking about the DNC and how I blame the DNC. And I’m not talking about teaching per se; I am using good/bad teaching as a metaphor for good/bad leadership. I get it: you blame the DNC for nothing. That fact does not come as a shock to me.
You seem to have forgotten that he won.
No, but you seem to have forgotten that you said this:
“congratulations on your home team winning the prize, since that is clearly all you care about.”
And how did Biden’s win in 2020 work out in 2024 for the Democratic Party?
A political party standing in the way of their own incumbent President's reelection campaign would have been unprecedented
Geesh, man. What do you think happened right after the Trump/Biden debate??
Anyhoo, to sum up: I blame the DNC whereas you blame the American people.
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@Double_R
For any republican candidate yes.
Huh? Obviously the opposite was true in the Republican primaries. That’s the problem— if one sees Trump’s success in the primaries as problematic.
The election I think proved that the democrats would have likely lost no matter what.
There's nothing the democrats can do with that. If you show people the worst of who you are and they are willing to set it all aside and assume you're actually terrific... The outcome is pretty much set.
That’s a very defeatist mentality. Instead of blaming the leadership, blame the followers? That is worse than defeatism. This reminds me of a mediocre math teacher who chastised her students for poor test scores. That she was perhaps teaching ineffectively never entered her mind.
Biden was picked by the voters in 2020 because every poll showed that he was the best candidate to beat Trump,
Yes, I know. Biden was supposedly the most electable the DNC had. That’s the problem!
In 2024 Biden made the fatal mistake of trying to run again.
And the DNC allowed this charade to occur and continue until it became unsustainable and unwinnable. Again, that’s the problem!
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@fauxlaw
It is a Chuck Norris joke. Such as “When Chuck Norris slices onions, the onions cry.”
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@Sidewalker
Nice. I thought it might be a number of H20 molecules thing, but I had no idea whatsoever how many. Answers #3, 6, and 7 also seem legit in the context of “when is water wet?” The OP would be better phrased “When does H20 behave as water?”
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@Double_R
Trump should have been fairly easy to beat in 2024, though not as easy to beat as in 2020. Why was the DNC unable to generate better candidates than Biden/Harris?
I ask this rhetorically if you are equally confounded and are asking yourself the same thing, but I wouldn’t be surprised if you don’t even agree with the premise of the question…
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When Chuck Norris jumps into a lake, he doesn’t get wet; the lake gets Chuck Norris.
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@Greyparrot
Perhaps, but I have read that his intent is to get Mexico to take more responsibility for their borders and cartels.
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Looks like another example of Trump’s predilection for brinkmanship.
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@Greyparrot
Too much binary thinking— “either you’re for DEI or you’re a dirty white supremacist!”— and not nearly enough exposure to the nuanced takes of intellectuals such as John McWhorter, Coleman Hughes, Glenn Loury, and Thomas Sowell.
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@Best.Korea
That is why concepts such as “optics” and LCD exist in politics. The advent of radio changed politics, and TV changed it even more. Social media has changed it yet even more.
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@Greyparrot
Ha! My college roommate loved Cinderella. At least, I think it was Cinderella?
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Here is an interview with a former Blackhawk pilot. In addition to what I have pointed out, she adds that the helicopter should ideally have had one more crewmember aboard for collision avoidance purposes. It appears that 3 is the minimum crew, so the flight was technically in compliance there. As for the training status of the flight, it appears that the purpose of the flight was to learn how to navigate DC’s busy airspace! Damn, that is aggravating and tragically ironic:
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@Greyparrot
After 4 years of Trump culminating in the pandemic, the American people said, “We deserve better!” and elected Biden. After 4 years of Biden, the American people said, “We deserve better!” and reelected Trump.
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@Greyparrot
Yeah, I was wondering if the other personnel would have been able to intervene if they saw the plane.
Definitely— it is a dual control, two pilot aircraft. What is confounding is that they were on a training or proficiency check flight. NOT the place for a mission which could be accomplished more safely elsewhere!
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@Greyparrot
When I see the video with the Blackhawk racing straight for the RJ, my thought is “Geez, it almost looks intentional.” Almost. But there are three crew on the helicopter and I think intentionality is pretty implausible. It appears that the helicopter never had that particular plane in sight…
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I don’t know why the RJ’s collision avoidance system (TCAS) wasn’t triggered by the helicopter. Perhaps it was a deferred maintenance item. A similar scenario played out in the hit show “Breaking Bad.” That would have alerted the RJ to abort the landing and go around.
My prediction is that the FAA will institute mandatory VFR corridors for helicopters around super busy airports. Flight rules, as they say, are “written in blood.” I’m surprised that helicopter was flying through a landing corridor as it is, but it’s also true that the RJ had a last minute runway change.
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@WyIted
It seems like a lack of situational awareness and failure to mitigate that lack (by slowing or stopping) on the part of the helicopter crew, perhaps they didn’t even realize they were lacking SA, and a lack of helpful information and direction from ATC. I am also hearing that ATC staffing was low.
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@FLRW
Hey, thanks for your concern! I actually haven’t flown into DCA for 7 years. This sort of thing is a gut punch for all aviators, really. The doomed RJ didn’t have a chance no matter how OG the pilots…
Edit: it goes without saying that it’s a gut punch for everyone.
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Fixed wing airplanes have right of way over helicopters. Helicopters actually are at the bottom of the right-of-way hierarchy because they are so maneuverable and can stop on a dime if necessary. Knowing this, this puts the helicopter crew at fault almost by default. ATC also has a lot to answer for regarding a midair in busy airspace of this type. Helicopters should always be avoiding major arrival and departure corridors for airplanes.
This is a tragedy which should have been avoided and is avoided 99.99% of the time.
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@Greyparrot
Lol, I was never a Democrat, so I can't really speak about why all those white people suddenly left the Democrat party after so many years of calling them evil for being born white.
I’ve had a poster inform me in a thread of mine that white people are not considered evil simply because they are white but because of all the evil white people do.
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@FLRW
High national debt levels post COVID are a global phenomenon.
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@Shila
Is this yet another of your “highly selective” responses?
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@Best.Korea
Once a (real) woman sees a penis, she cannot simply “unsee” it…
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@WyIted
When some army women with ovaries were given no choice but to shower with a woman a penis, they complained up the chain of command. The response they got was basically, “As members of this US Army, you’re going to have to suck it up and deal with it.” Naturally, their rebuttal was “Then why don’t you make the soldier with a penis ‘deal’ with showering with other soldiers with a penis?”
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@Shila
Why did you feel the need to repost the OP in post 80?
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AI will abolish women.
Here’s a cautionary tale about this very thing:
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@Reece101
Apparently they’re being cyber attacked.
One interpretation I heard of the alleged cyberattack is that they cannot handle the new, high demand for their product. Perhaps more of the “overpromising” I have come to expect from China.
I bought into yesterday’s correction in some of the affected US equities. DeepSeek’s model is definitely progress in AI, which is part of the overall AI revolution. Sort of like the cotton gin, this advancement will increase the demand for AI rather than threaten the demand, as so many investors seemed to think on Monday. It remains to be seen how legitimately cheap DeepSeek is. Seeing as how they used certain “export friendly” NVIDIA chips, it might cause a rethink of how the US regulates semiconductor tech.
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I am very selective with what I post.
That’s… *Looking around the forums*… a bit hard to believe…
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@FLRW
It's interesting that medical records from 1923 show that Adolf Hitler suffered from hypospadias, a condition that resulted in the German dictator having a micropenis.
Oh, poor Eva!
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@Greyparrot
Indeed. And it wouldn’t be the first time this has happened on the subject matter of public education.
*wave of the hand* “These aren’t the droids you’re looking for.”
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@Best.Korea
Guys, it’s okay. I accept your concessions.
Ha! That’s rich:
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